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    Thinking reacted to Space Merchant in The beginning of World War III?   
    Yes, but still be careful of Propaganda. I mentioned to @JW Insider a while back of a group called Jayish Al-Islam, an Al-Qaeda affiliated, and what they did with people, especially in regards to what they used children for. The same situation taking place in Ukraine right now. Unfortunately some members of your faith are unaware and can be fooled by the MSM's Agenda. Should you choose to look at the news, be very careful of what you look into, for many can be fooled, such as @Srecko Sostar concerning the drone, as is now the speculation of how WW III starts.
    A few dominos have fallen, and the US and their allies actually have an Agenda concerning Ukraine and Russia, in terms of resource. Why continue to push Ukraine into a Dragon-Bear situation or go around the minsk agreement? At the same time, the legitimate enemy of God's people, Babylon and the Wild Beast, had been making several moves of which some folks are unaware of, such as WGS (there recent summit in 2022 a few days ago), for possibly myself, @Arauna and @Kosonen are aware of.
    That being said, do all that you can to not be an indirect target of the influence being spread, as is become victim by it, for Babylon's movements is identical to the events of 2016.
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    Thinking reacted to Arauna in The beginning of World War III?   
    Well spoken my dear. I do not look too deep into the evil things because it is just so bad and real. I always listen to hear about which prophecies... are coming to fruition.... so I distance myself while listening to be objective.... but one can still be propagandized unknowingly.
    Yes, a friend alerted me to the world governance summit.  So..... it is not a conspiracy after all.  Just like the conspiracy to kill jesus was not false news.... lol.
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    Thinking reacted to Space Merchant in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I am incredibly critical (often times strict), mainly after someone has been discerned, and in regards to debating experience, as is my time in CSE, The Christian/Hermeneutics Stack Exchange, I tend to be critical of anything that is misleading, false, and or does not make any shred of sense outside of grounded discussion.
    Just recently, I, along with others, were in a heated debate for a few days with, believe it or not, specific types of people who were discerned to be among those who defend something of which @Patiently waiting for Truth mentions a lot here. Truthers refer to such people as Pedophilia apologist, who assume such disorderly behavior is a sexual orientation. The debate came forth due to the Transgender swimmer Lia Thomas situation. These people knew they lost the debate in which I and others were against them and because of it, they had mad threats and ill remarks towards children.
    This goes to show you what I said a while back of how such persons are going to be a problem in 2022 in all things revolving around CSA, in the US and in the UK. Hence my remark towards Linda James, in the other thread concerning the reopening of institutions, will spark problems, i.e. Disney is having some CSA issues of which now people are starting to see when the aware knows.
    That is why she cannot be trusted, especially when you have an alleged chosen who, in other remarks, tends to lean on Feminisms, an ideology that should NOT be among Christians. So she is just as confused as her acolytes.
    Indeed for the claim of False Prophet can be coined easily in that regard, as is what Paul said to the Galatians, or what even Apostle John said in his letters.
    An example of those who claim to be Prophets Inspired. Insanity at best. More so when they get engulfed by the Agenda's Propaganda.
    Which is what I explained to Butler, Witness and Srecko several times of which 2/3 of them believed the latter had contacted an Apostle before 100AD. Only this time they tried to challenge the Bible and the history of Christianity itself.
    The United Nations will indirectly get to God's people, even your faith. As of now they are not Hellbent on targeting to destroy, simply they seek to influence. As is the Harlot.
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    Thinking reacted to ComfortMyPeople in Biblical King-of-the-North (KON) and King-of-the-South (KOS), and GOG and MAGOG, too!   
    Several problems arise when we approach Da 11 from a preterist or historicist perspective.
    First of all, I believe that the first mistake in approaching this prophecy (along with those of Revelation) is to try to apply them to events "of the present moment" as soon as we think we determine that some piece fits in the puzzle, only to discover some time later that we have to readjust (Zenobia, for example).
    A problem that we JW's have is that since everything pivots around 1914 we try to make the key turn in that lock, closing our eyes to any other possibility. Actually, it must be admitted that there are two possibilities.
    1. Everything was fulfilled at the time of the Hellenic kings who influenced Israel, mainly Antiochus IV Epiphanes 2. Much of what we believe has already been accomplished is still in the future and must be fulfilled. I am only going to get involved at this point with point 1.
    DANIEL 11:25-27
    Scholars mention that these passages have to do with some Syrian wars (KoN) against the Ptolemies (KoS) but they are not sure what specific events.
    Until recently we talked about Queen Zenobia and her generals as antagonists of Rome and KoS. Now, we see in these verses the German Empire and its defeat in the IWW
    ...And so on. Scholars focusing on Syria-Egypt, JW's on 20th and 21st century events.
    WHY ANTIOCUS IV IS NOT THE GREAT PROTAGONIST OF DANIEL 11
    Daniel 11:40-45
    This is in no way related to the acts of Antiochus or any other Hellenic KoN. Numerous commentators apply these words to a character related to the Antichrist.
    Daniel 11:45
    When biblical scholars try to apply this passage to the death of the Syrian king they have to admit that Daniel (or a pseudo-Daniel) was wrong, since the king is known not to die in the Promised Land ("of Decoration")
    Daniel 11:31b
    Although many think that this refers to the desecration of the temple by this impious king, as collected in the Maccabean books, Jesus Christ himself (Mat 24:15 and Mr 13:14) applies it to the future, not to events of the 2nd century BC .

     
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    Thinking got a reaction from Anna in VISITING OLD OR SICK ONES THAT YOU KNOW, IN THE CONGREGATION OR NOT.   
    I have been to your country and seen first hand the very very strong family bond and decency between you all..it made me sad….and when I came home I could see our arrogance and lack of love between all ….I love the respect you all seem to give automatically to the aged…..
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    Thinking got a reaction from JW Insider in VISITING OLD OR SICK ONES THAT YOU KNOW, IN THE CONGREGATION OR NOT.   
    I have been to your country and seen first hand the very very strong family bond and decency between you all..it made me sad….and when I came home I could see our arrogance and lack of love between all ….I love the respect you all seem to give automatically to the aged…..
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    Thinking reacted to Equivocation in VISITING OLD OR SICK ONES THAT YOU KNOW, IN THE CONGREGATION OR NOT.   
    Yeah, that is why a family bond needs to be strong. Some family members have differences but at the end of the day the bond needs to be there so there needs to be a compromise. 
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    Thinking got a reaction from Equivocation in VISITING OLD OR SICK ONES THAT YOU KNOW, IN THE CONGREGATION OR NOT.   
    I have been to your country and seen first hand the very very strong family bond and decency between you all..it made me sad….and when I came home I could see our arrogance and lack of love between all ….I love the respect you all seem to give automatically to the aged…..
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    Thinking got a reaction from Arauna in VISITING OLD OR SICK ONES THAT YOU KNOW, IN THE CONGREGATION OR NOT.   
    I have been to your country and seen first hand the very very strong family bond and decency between you all..it made me sad….and when I came home I could see our arrogance and lack of love between all ….I love the respect you all seem to give automatically to the aged…..
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    Thinking reacted to Equivocation in VISITING OLD OR SICK ONES THAT YOU KNOW, IN THE CONGREGATION OR NOT.   
    I do this all the time. It is a Famila thing, well a Latino thing. But visiting tends to be more than just checking up on someone's health but to keep them company, even reaching out if need be. Since I am among the youngest of my family, we've been taught that we jot only respect and honor our elders but to visit and talk with them. My father has taught us this and encourage myself and my relatives to do the same because he wants the family and their inner circle to be well connected. He isn't a fan of how some Families in America operate. So regardless if someone is a brother or not, we make the effort to visit physically or over the phone even run errands if anything. In my case family and friends live in the same area very close.
    Also not sure if anyone mentioned this, it is also good to visit even younger ones too because mentally they're fragile.
     
    The only person tough to visit is my other uncle who lives in the middle of nowhere, like Log Cabin life. You can only reach him by phone. This guy jokes that he fights bears lol 😆 
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    Thinking reacted to Arauna in VISITING OLD OR SICK ONES THAT YOU KNOW, IN THE CONGREGATION OR NOT.   
    I am fragile but not so old.   I will only need attention when I am unable to walk.  Many elderly people go through the same with their children popping in every other day or so.  My children are in other countries due to circumstances - me being a refugee from my own country. 
    MY mum's best friend died after she was lying on the floor a whole day with a stroke injury.  This pandemic has made matters worse as people who are not family are supposed to distance themselves.  I would feel mad if it was my friend.... but I would calm down afterward and realize that the person is no longer suffering and is in the long arms of Jehovah. Jehovah's hand will not be short during the resurrection.
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    Thinking reacted to TrueTomHarley in KINGDOM HALLS REOPEN IN UK   
    I wasn’t sure how I would feel about returning to the Hall. I’m starting to get up there in years. Zoom is convenient. You don’t have to travel. You don’t have to worry about the attire of your lower half. 
    But no sooner did I walk through the door than I knew it was the right move. Our attendance was very solid and enthusiasm ran high. The hybrid Zoom tie-in was seamless. 
    The speaker read that familiar passage of 2 Timothy 3:1-5. Though he did not dwell on “not open to any agreement,” it resonated with me. There is scarcely any point today, no matter how trivial, that people to not debate over and even argue to the nth degree. I can see why some avoid the news, though I am not one of them. It’s exhausting. 
    It was so refreshing being in that Hall where not a trace of that contentious spirit was to be found. It is not even that everyone agrees—they just know enough how to yield and not to squabble. Given the state of Covid in our community today, I personally think the strong mask recommendation is a bit dumb. But the majority apparently does not feel that way. I’ve been asked to wear one, so I do. It’s not that big of a deal.
    Of course, given the size of the crowd I did begin to think maybe its not such a bad idea after all. I have not been in such close proximity to large groups of people in two years.
    I also wasn’t sure how easy it would be to avoid handshakes. I like not having been sick in two years and I had resolved not to do it. But some in-your-face people are very insistent and the alternative elbow bump just seems too stupid to initiate. But it fact, a forearm glance proved pretty easy to do. Some shook hands with others. Some didn’t. It wasn’t any big deal.
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    Thinking reacted to Equivocation in KINGDOM HALLS REOPEN IN UK   
    There is actually more. I think we're at 8.7-8.8 now. A lot of people also tune into ou meetings via zoom as well. I think before 2020 we we're at 8.4 or something, I remember someone brought up pews research about it.
    All in all, it is actually good to be back, but I don't think we can do door to door anytime soon.
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    Thinking reacted to JW Insider in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I watched the whole video (and I had seen it before) but I saw nothing really wrong in what Brother Splane was saying. Can you clarify what is so wrong about making sure that everything fits?
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    Thinking reacted to Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    That us brilliant that you brought it up!  The question is directed at those living in the last days and asks each individual if they  recognize the  slave.  It is a question directed at me and you. I recognize them to give me food at the proper time and I am happy in doing so! . 
    If you do not understand - read it again. 
    “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?  46 Happy is that slave if his master on coming finds him doing so!  47 T
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    Thinking reacted to Pudgy in KINGDOM HALLS REOPEN IN UK   
    Too true, for example at last weeks meeting on Zoom they were telling about the arrangements for the memorial Friday, April 15 at a local municipal convention center, and they needed to allocate funds to pay for it and as it turned out the rental cost for each congregation was  $671, with the total cost 3 times as there will be 3 congregations attending.
    There are officially 109 people in our congregation but I have noticed on Zoom that there is only about 35 to 45 people and it’s consistent weekend after weekend after weekend so I do the math and I thought ….. wow !
    So a brother made the motion that the Congregation spend $671 and another brother seconded the motion and it came to vote. They asked all the brothers that voted to spend the money to raise their hands, and nobody raised their hand. Nobody at all.
    Then he asked at all those who oppose the motion raise their hand, and nobody raised their hand. Nobody at all.
    Then the brother announced after a pause, very long pause that he was gonna put it down that it passed unanimously.
    He also said that everyone would be required to wear a mask at the municipal center, and I know in our County all mask restrictions have been lifted, so I would imagine that this is something that JW headquarters is requiring. (?)
    I think everyone was just stunned at the $671 cost, I know I was. Perhaps everyone else was just doing the math in their head and forgot to raise their hands either time.
    As an aside, I would assume that if there are any cartoon Penguins attending the Assembly, or the Memorial in two weeks, that they would not have to wear a mask.
    Cartoon Penguins don’t have ears.
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    Thinking reacted to Arauna in Daniel 11:44 - King of the North   
    Orthodox are killing orthodox Christians. Hopefully many people start to see this connection. The Nazis are ones who want to keep the country separate with nationalism.  
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    Thinking reacted to TrueTomHarley in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Have you met Bill Ding, a major player in the LDC?
    I should not have said harshest, for you are one among many. “Shrillist” is the word I was looking for, the one most given to hysteria, overstatement, and over-generalization. I wonder what you would have said about Paul, who told the Corinthians to “forgive” that fellow who had been sleeping with his father’s wife. (2 Corinthians 2:7-9)
    “This rebuke given by the majority is sufficient for such a man;  now you should instead kindly forgive and comfort him, so that he may not be overwhelmed by excessive sadness. I therefore exhort you to confirm your love for him.” (2 Corinthians 2:7-9)
    After just a brief period of expulsion, he was to be “comforted,” “forgiven,” with “love” for him “confirmed,” having shown himself repentant and  “saddened.” You would have not accepted that, I don’t think, and likely would have had shrill words about Paul covering up sin.
    If you were then as you are now, you would have withdrawn in disgust from that first-century congregation. Then, like a Kamikazi pilot upset that the target ship doesn’t erect a memorial to him, you would have cried on and on about how the real reasons for your departure were not publicized to your former spiritual family. Instead, they just accepted your resignation and moved on.
    Please believe me. I do not “dislike” you because you are “truthful.”
    It also doesn’t help that you condemn the Christian organization for any expectation that did not come on time, yet put complete trust in something not even hinted at in scripture—that a True Anointed will come along at the 11th hour to save the day.
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    Thinking reacted to Space Merchant in Biblical King-of-the-North (KON) and King-of-the-South (KOS), and GOG and MAGOG, too!   
    In short, the US and their allies are ad odds with Russia and their allies. Secondary allies on the US side either went neutral or, in this sense, changed teams. The UN being the referee, in this case.
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    Thinking reacted to Pudgy in GEOFFREY JACKSON'S BOOK OF REMEMBRANCE   
    Before there can great the tribulation be, there must occur the great skin rash.
     
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    Thinking got a reaction from Pudgy in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    No she needed to be In The kitchen..the Gas bottle had ignited 😱💥🔥
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    Thinking reacted to TrueTomHarley in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    All posts from this moment on must be approved by TTH, and he ain’t no pushover.
    Participants in the WNMF—JW open forum when Dimitar slapped each one of them in turn:

    ”Geez, you guys are a piece of work!” Admin
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    Thinking reacted to Pudgy in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Apparently the moderator or whoever makes  these decisions is requiring everyone to have a approval of their comments, solely because Dimitar and I engaged in a very serious “flame war“. Our comments were deleted, as they should’ve been.
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    Thinking reacted to Pudgy in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    No, there was a SERIOUS “flame war” between Dmitar and myself, that the Moderator deleted.  No one else’s fault at all.
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