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    Thinking reacted to Anna in ​​​​​​​“ …. Eye has not seen, and ear has not heard, what God has in store for those that love him …. “   
    I have a similar picture of my two darlings 😂 Thankfully they do not destroy anything in the house, they just drag in stuff through the doggie door from the yard (twigs, fallen branches, plant supports...etc.) and proceed to make an almighty mess of it indoors, and after they are done, happily snoozing amongst the carnage.
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    Thinking got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Brothers helping Brothers Jehovah be with them.   
    Then follow instructions and stop talking to me and the others ..we won’t mind .
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    Thinking got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in ​​​​​​​“ …. Eye has not seen, and ear has not heard, what God has in store for those that love him …. “   
    Your all over the place sereko…you really do need to have a sit down with structured bible discussion and it’s okay if you dont agree with everything.
    Christ was sacrificed  for mankind alone….not for the angels..yes both species were perfect….but the angels had much more understanding and their rebellion was a deliberate one done  with much more knowledge than Adam and Eve ever had….they held court with Jehovah over probably  eons of time before mankind was created…they knew full well what they were doing.
    Animals we’re not meant to eat each other at all by Gods law.
    neither were men meant to eat each other by Gods law…..this is basic bible understanding…..so who is teaching you or are you just pulling everybody’s chain here….you must be a Russian spy I reckon!….
     
     
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    Thinking got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Not many listened to Jesus Pugsy..and none of the original Israelites other than Joshua and Kaleb survived or were found acceptable to Jehovah…as to the 73% who leave…I dont know if that number is correct..but that narrow road is preety hard to stay on with one’s like this brother…..and others just cannot be bothered.
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    Thinking got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Well thank you..for I thought I must be going nuts or have thin skin …but I would have to say there is no excuse for cruelness…and at some stage someone needs to stop such..because it cannot come from a source or spirit as Jehovah …
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    Thinking got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I never said special laws I said different laws….one law ( applied to mankind ) when disobeyed  resulted in death that would be considered the first death for mankind …there was hope of recovery from that death due to Jesus ransom.
    The same law when applied to the angels who sinned …had a different outcome there was no hope of recovery for them….their deaths will result In The second death .
    My apologies if my wording was confusing,,,not that I think your at all genuine Sereko…I don’t,
  7. Haha
    Thinking got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Knowledge is not what is most important JWI….if he behaved in the KH as he does here..he would be spiritually  counselled by the elders…once and perhaps twice…and if he continued to slander other brothers and sisters and bully them and call out numerous ones as liars etc he would be disfellowshipped for that.
    Any witness…real witness must conduct themselves at a reasonable level of Christian conduct …ANYWHERE….even on a forum..you cannot excuse any witness of incredibly bad ….repeatedly bad behaviour …just because he offers up some good info…of which I agree…and have even upvoted….just because he is on a forum.
    Satan himself would offer up as good a argument..and even better..but we would not sit at his table with him.
    Tho I have blocked this so called brother I can follow the gist  of this argument…
    Even tho his knowledge is good and his defence at times admirable…it is rubbed away..and deleted by his conduct and absolutely incredible slander and abuse to other brothers and sisters here.
    In doing that he actually backs up in a way others who deliberately lie about witnesses…he is helping and aiding their hated and confusion of nearly every witness on this forum and the brotherhood.
    The woman who followed Jesus around continually crying out that this is Indeed the Son of God ….actually caused Jesus such irritation even tho speaking highly of him and in fact truths ..frustration enough to demand the demon with in her to depart.
    Giving himself and his followers a measure of peace..even tho she had only cried out truths.
    Do you think this person can really be a brother..going by his fruits displayed over a long period of time.
    I openly admit he has much more knowledge of the scriptures than I…but I have had to walk away from this person because of the harm he does to the truth in his behaviour.
    I have never seen such behaviour anywhere in over four decades in the truth and being on a forum is not a free for all as some seem to think….not for a witness of a Jehovah …not for a true witness.
    And for those that disagree with me…then I ask you to invite him onto your personal Facebook pages or into your homes….or perhaps arrange to meet him at your or his Kingdom Hall…or for a coffee.
    See if he turns up…he’s a con job …
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    Thinking got a reaction from JW Insider in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I think we all just need to go for a coffee….or do remote witnessing….sort of trapped in a car all together…lol…I reckon it would work too…🤗
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    Thinking got a reaction from Dmitar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Not many listened to Jesus Pugsy..and none of the original Israelites other than Joshua and Kaleb survived or were found acceptable to Jehovah…as to the 73% who leave…I dont know if that number is correct..but that narrow road is preety hard to stay on with one’s like this brother…..and others just cannot be bothered.
  10. Haha
    Thinking got a reaction from Dmitar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I have had the exact same thoughts as you have expressed….hence at times trying hard to understand him and upvote his considerable knowledge.
    I can also perceive a jealousy when he sees a bond between most of us….I get that…I can tolerate that….but when one kills people off and condemns  them spiritually …and runs others off….without even a hint of remorse…there is something terribly wrong.
    Then at some stage someone needs to step up and say enough….stop.
    Because kindness has not worked
    I dont doubt what you seen at bethel….but at some stage someone pulled those brothers up before they killed each other…and reigned them in.
    If he is a brother…then I would like nothing more than have peace with him..I also agree he has great knowledge but he abuses it..and it’s a shame… because it’s wasted.
    I dont doubt it when he said he was taught by Franz….but beating brothers and sisters does not keep them on the narrow road…
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    Thinking got a reaction from Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I think we all just need to go for a coffee….or do remote witnessing….sort of trapped in a car all together…lol…I reckon it would work too…🤗
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    Thinking reacted to Pudgy in ​​​​​​​“ …. Eye has not seen, and ear has not heard, what God has in store for those that love him …. “   
    During periods of extreme famine in China, the Chinese people would eat dirt.
    However, I would not characterize them as dirt eaters, normally.
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    Thinking reacted to Arauna in ​​​​​​​“ …. Eye has not seen, and ear has not heard, what God has in store for those that love him …. “   
    So the opposite is also true.  Before the flood some predators ate plant material and after the flood they ate meat.  Epigenetics is also a field of study.  I have watched leopards for instance: the mother has to teach the cub to hunt. Although the catch and play instinct is normal - the cub has to develop an instinct for killing.
     
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    Thinking got a reaction from Arauna in ​​​​​​​“ …. Eye has not seen, and ear has not heard, what God has in store for those that love him …. “   
    50/50 chance of it….already proved by Abel and Cain…the rot would only increase as time went on..Jehovah knew that..
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    Thinking got a reaction from Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Well thank you..for I thought I must be going nuts or have thin skin …but I would have to say there is no excuse for cruelness…and at some stage someone needs to stop such..because it cannot come from a source or spirit as Jehovah …
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    Thinking got a reaction from Arauna in ​​​​​​​“ …. Eye has not seen, and ear has not heard, what God has in store for those that love him …. “   
    Taken from Gizmodo site

    Researchers recently set out to determine the diet of 90 different theropod species. They were expecting to find a lot of meat-eating - after all, theropods are known informally as the predatory dinosaurs. But even confirming that hypothesis would be tricky because so little evidence of dinosaur diet remains.
    Teeth do often pass into the fossil record, but it's not always easy to figure out diet based on just teeth. While the sharp teeth and jaw of a T. rex is obviously that of a fearsome superpredator and the blunt teeth of a Triceratops obviously belong to a plant eater, a lot of dinosaur teeth fall somewhere in the middle. A lot of therapod dinosaurs have strange, peg-like teeth which seem less than ideal for either a carnivorous or herbivorous existence, so figuring out what they ate becomes a real challenge.
     
    This is just a small sample I quickly found on line that big teeth in dinasours and sharks DOES NOT prove they were always carnivores…it’s a bit of an eye opener to see what they are now understanding about such huge massive apparently violent creatures.
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    Thinking reacted to Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I hope you can recall that the bible said: narrow is the road.....  - the holy spirit should help you recall this scripture and help you to leave off the felicitous and acidic remarks. Sometimes you are funny - but there is a time for everything. 
    Unfortunately, I am a Christian who likes all kinds of people and can even put up with a few very nasty ones. But I am one of those who find myself. per occasion. to be nasty to those who respect nothing holy.  
    Our fellow worshippers were talking about Dmitar above (I assume so).  I have also been unkind to him on a few occasions because of him insisting to be totally obnoxious at times - mostly unfounded.  I have tried to reach out to him.... but he does not respond to any form of kindness or even agreement. He puts himself above all of that.
    You are similar.  You always have to turn everything into a inappropriate joke and there is little kindness or responsiveness to things wholesome.   I wish I could hear a little wisdom from your mouth. I would listen.  I am sure it is somewhere deep inside but it seems you will lose face if you do show your vulnerable side.
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    Thinking got a reaction from Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Not many listened to Jesus Pugsy..and none of the original Israelites other than Joshua and Kaleb survived or were found acceptable to Jehovah…as to the 73% who leave…I dont know if that number is correct..but that narrow road is preety hard to stay on with one’s like this brother…..and others just cannot be bothered.
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    Thinking got a reaction from Pudgy in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Not many listened to Jesus Pugsy..and none of the original Israelites other than Joshua and Kaleb survived or were found acceptable to Jehovah…as to the 73% who leave…I dont know if that number is correct..but that narrow road is preety hard to stay on with one’s like this brother…..and others just cannot be bothered.
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    Thinking got a reaction from Pudgy in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I have had the exact same thoughts as you have expressed….hence at times trying hard to understand him and upvote his considerable knowledge.
    I can also perceive a jealousy when he sees a bond between most of us….I get that…I can tolerate that….but when one kills people off and condemns  them spiritually …and runs others off….without even a hint of remorse…there is something terribly wrong.
    Then at some stage someone needs to step up and say enough….stop.
    Because kindness has not worked
    I dont doubt what you seen at bethel….but at some stage someone pulled those brothers up before they killed each other…and reigned them in.
    If he is a brother…then I would like nothing more than have peace with him..I also agree he has great knowledge but he abuses it..and it’s a shame… because it’s wasted.
    I dont doubt it when he said he was taught by Franz….but beating brothers and sisters does not keep them on the narrow road…
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    Thinking reacted to Pudgy in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I disagree. 
    I have never claimed to be a “good” Christian, and if it were not for the training and education I received from OTHER highly flawed Jehovah’s Witnesses, I would have had a very short life, dying on a battlefield somewhere, or worse.
    A lot worse.
    We should NEVER stop trying to be a Christian.
    As the famous cartoon character Pogo once said “We have met the enemy, and he is us.”

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    Thinking reacted to JW Insider in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Several people here have understood you to say that you plan to leave this discussion forum soon, or perhaps at least the name "Dmitar" will be leaving the forum. If this is true, I wanted to say that I have found things you have said on certain subjects to be valuable. I might have never looked at the apocryphal book of Judith, for example, if it had not been for your serious utilization of that book. I typically don't try to access commentaries from the late 1700's and early 1800's but have made exceptions after you have quoted from them. These excursions often take me to some additional books that you quoted from or where your sources provide footnotes to other resources. I have learned a lot from them.
    You often quote interesting information that sends me searching for where you got it from. I will honestly miss some of this.
    I find the intensity and zeal and emotion with which you defend the faith to be unmatched, and it makes me wonder sometimes if there were not perhaps examples like this in the first century where we sometimes read of "sharp bursts of anger," or the disciples like James and John who were also given the name ' Bo·a·nerʹges, which means “Sons of Thunder.” ' You have made me wonder about the range of characteristics among Christian congregations in all ages.
    Naturally, since this is a discussion forum, I will often make it known when I think a Biblical or even a secular idea is being misrepresented or exaggerated. I thank you for engaging on topics that many others find too tedious to attempt.
    On the other hand, from everything you've said, I already know what you'll think of any counsel or criticism that comes from me. But this doesn't mean I must hold back from giving it, just as you don't seem to hold back much. I won't try to make a list of things I find disagreeable, but as you move along from here to other places, I do hope that you will consider a couple of things:
    I think you will likely find it easier to make important points and get them across if you spend less time picking fights with others, or repeatedly reviling others to prove your superiority or knowledge. In the past I would have pointed out other things I noticed, too, but I've seen what I perceive as real improvement on several of those other things I've complained about in the past.  I think the one habit of yours that gets in your own way the most is "projection." When you do something wrong (like pick fights, revile others, or look for little ways to cause contention) you apparently want to blame others for the same thing. You seem to always want to make these things someone else's problems instead of owning up to them yourself.
    By "projection" of course I mean in the sense of the definition found here:
    Projection
    Reviewed by Psychology Today Staff
    Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another. For example, if someone continuously bullies and ridicules a peer about his insecurities, the bully might be projecting his own struggle with self-esteem onto the other person.
    Other than those issues, I think I'll really miss a lot of what you have been able to offer over the years.
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    Thinking reacted to Pudgy in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    It appears here that you are claiming to be an Elder of Jehovah’s Witnesses. 
    If this is true, it would go far in explaining why it takes 22 “man-years” of witnessing to get ONE Jehovah’s Witness to stay his entire lifetime, and why 73% leave.
     

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    Thinking got a reaction from Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I have had the exact same thoughts as you have expressed….hence at times trying hard to understand him and upvote his considerable knowledge.
    I can also perceive a jealousy when he sees a bond between most of us….I get that…I can tolerate that….but when one kills people off and condemns  them spiritually …and runs others off….without even a hint of remorse…there is something terribly wrong.
    Then at some stage someone needs to step up and say enough….stop.
    Because kindness has not worked
    I dont doubt what you seen at bethel….but at some stage someone pulled those brothers up before they killed each other…and reigned them in.
    If he is a brother…then I would like nothing more than have peace with him..I also agree he has great knowledge but he abuses it..and it’s a shame… because it’s wasted.
    I dont doubt it when he said he was taught by Franz….but beating brothers and sisters does not keep them on the narrow road…
  25. Upvote
    Thinking got a reaction from Pudgy in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Well thank you..for I thought I must be going nuts or have thin skin …but I would have to say there is no excuse for cruelness…and at some stage someone needs to stop such..because it cannot come from a source or spirit as Jehovah …
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