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    Thinking reacted to Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I stick to the bible itself - it interprets itself. 
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    Thinking reacted to Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    You used the word above...  I think you have no concept of the meaning or you are using hyperbole.  I have seen no extremism amongst JWs.  That is why I corrected your use of words. 
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    Thinking reacted to Space Merchant in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    True, they'll go back to their places of worship, but as far as the Commission, they're isolated to phone calls and letters.
    That being said, from what I had seen so far, them going back to house to house will be vastly different to the New Normalcy.
    The ill intent and mindset of some people has changed, even in the realm of aggression.
    Not sure if you are a JW or not, but even for you, you need be careful because of the rise of desperation.
    So it is wise for everyone to be cautious. In my case, I am cautious, but I tread differently from most.
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    Thinking reacted to Space Merchant in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    He was aware of what an announcer, as is what a witness who attest to testimony to God's Word is, as is the majority in the 1900s. Christians, even the Bible Students knew what bearing witness to the Word entails.
    Pastor Rutherford was never an Inspired Prophet, not did he claim to be infallible, he was simply a Normal Prophet, or in this case, regarding the norm, Prophet Not Inspired.
    Also FYI, that screen was not from the JWs although the terminology was identical, but more detailed. The JW one was the first image.
    It isn't a flip flop though, for if it was, then the archived information would have said differently, which was not the case. It was very clear of what a Modern Day Prophet is, someone who is a witness to God's Word, hence proclaim the message; adhere to the Great Commission, commanded by the Christ of which those God fearing should be doing, yourself included.
    But you adhere to them being infallible in your last statements. Why the sudden change?
    Your latter remark makes no sense.
    It isn't logic based, this is Biblical Hermeneutics based.
    Normal Prophets aka Prophets Not Inspired do not have miraculous gifts therefore cannot attest to a Revelation and or reap Prophecy. Prophesying is akin to proclaim the message of God's Word, hence it is clear on what the Preaching of the Messianic Age entails. Prophesying also is done through worship to the True God, which is in harmony with what he says in his Word, as is the commands of his Christ.
    Incorrect, they never rejected any Prophecy in God's Word. Perhaps coming to understand it later on, but as far as rejection, it is unfounded.
    Everyone does not start at the same level, learning God's Word is to come to an understanding, the fact you mention this now shows you didn't understand what was said a few minutes ago, for, a JW who has been looking into the Bible for 8 years is on a different lane compared to another who has a few months of experience. Likewise with former JWs, however, they tend to get duped by the Mainstream frequently, as is others in Christendom.
    The need for Teachers and Pastors is still important, for a directionless Christian will most likely go into the realm of alienation of God faster than someone who has been excommunicated from a Church, so to speak. When there is Alienation, then there are ideologies deem not Biblical to be applied by such a person.
    The lack of Teachers is also the reason that has led society to view the Bible with distaste. Even in the past, Teachers were vital, for Apostle John's students were examples. If Polycarp did not have John, then he'd be open to the accursed teachings which isn't Core, perhaps succumb to Gnosticism.
    But because of John, who was his Teacher, his view of Gnosticism as his reaction was priceless [“O good God! For what times hast thou kept me that I should endure such things!”]
    I am talking about Christians in General, I wasn't being specific, hence my original remark never disclosed the individual's sex, male or female. As for the other remark concerning Shepherds, Women can be Ministers proclaimers of the message like their inspired counterparts, they cannot hold religious office (which is unfounded in the Bible), and you were beaten in this debate before, so concerning God's Order, it is known as to why one respects said Order, as is understanding the Words of an Inspired Prophet, Apostle Paul.
    As Ministers, they can witness God's Word, as is teach it to others, even children and other women. The Unisex practice came forth from mistake interpretation of Scripture, something of which both you and Witness could not comprehend in that debate concerning God's Order, and you tried to throw a lie about Chloe.
    That being said, God's Order is the same, and has not changed.
    No, I don't have the wrong source of information.
    If I am wrong, then name another religious organization essentially owned by the Watchtower? For, if there is a Mother Organization, there should be a Primary one also.
    If you cannot prove that information now and later on, then your claim is unfounded, as is the ill use of a terminology that did not benefit you.
     
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    Thinking reacted to Space Merchant in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I wasn't defending the Unisex teaching, therefore, I shed no ignorance, only the facts. even corrected both you and @Witness on Chloe, and even then, due to your err no one corrected you until it was refuted. So @Dmitar was correct due to your statement below
    [If all “normal prophets” are equal, then most JWs have acquired the same spiritual level because of which there is no need for elders to act as teachers and pastors. However, you do not acknowledge that a woman can be on the same spiritual level as a man, but that only a man is in the position of a shepherd.]
    Women can teach and minister, they cannot hold Religious Office, that is, if you are a supporter of the Unisex Practice which was never of the Church.
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    Thinking got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Brothers helping Brothers Jehovah be with them.   
    Mathew  5 :22
    But I say to you but that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council and whoever says ‘you fool’ will be liable to the hell of fire.
    Your abuse and the fact that Satan is laughing his head off about you fighting with and causing dissension  amongst Jehovahs people..I have no alternative but to step away from you via blocking such behavior.
     
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    Thinking reacted to Space Merchant in The beginning of World War III?   
    Speculation. That reminds of the, ironically, the 1975 discussion. As we can see, concerning what the Information War (and Hot War) can turn into, there are both sides.
    Not to mention, False Flags can make people jump to conclusions, even take action.
    That being said, conflict overseas won't be one's only concern, but a Systematic Warfare among the people in the US and elsewhere, for neighbor will come against neighbor with ill intent, to survivor, to attack their own, etc. Something of which myself and @Kosonen has always talked about on here. Then you got the Reset, which will truly cripple the people even more. @Araunahas been vocal on that.
    As the US dollar drops even more, the moral compass of some will also fall, for when ill intent is at an all time high, men, women and children, who are unaware won't be safe.
    By the time unaware people figure out who the true enemy is, it will be too late.
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    Thinking reacted to Space Merchant in The beginning of World War III?   
    True. Even a couple years ago when the Truther community did speak about the actions of NATO and the US allies, along with the United Nations, we were censored. It was inevitable that an action will cause an International Conflict.
    The difference is that the US and their allies is dealing with a Nuclear Super Power.
    That being said, the information we had was someone from NATO several years ago stated there want to start wars with several countries, those who were not on their side. We seen what they did already with the aid of the UN.
     
    For the Wild Beast knows what it is doing. But this time, the fear and panic the unaware are succumbing to vs the aware who saw this coming and are prepared.
    This is also a reminder that man cannot bring true peace or security, for only God and his Christ is capable to do such.
    For whatever man touches, something gets tainted elsewhere.
    That being said, violence, famine, fear, death is at an increase, especially in the US. Granted the economical Crisis taking place in the US, it is confirmed to slowly spill over into the EU. Elsewhere, heavy weaponry is being moved around in Glasgow, six deadly warheads making it's way over to the Royal Navy depot.
    Fighter Jets flying over the skies of the United Kingdom.
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    Thinking reacted to Space Merchant in The beginning of World War III?   
    World War III has not begun yet, it is only an Information War as is a Hot War, remember, do not speculate of a possibility. The dominos for WW III has yet to happened. As for Ukraine, the US and their allies do not truly care for them, for Ukraine is only a tool to be used as a crux against Russia, granted the US and their allies with NATO affiliates and their actions.
     
    That being said, the same thing of what I had told you many times, years ago, is taking effect, as we can see, granted the actions of Russia and their allies; then again Truthers are always targeted by the MSM, perhaps now you see.
     
    For you were always told  of who the true threat is, for the majority, it will be already too late, the white throne those will have to answer to eventually.
    Going forward, you should be concern of what your next steps are in the coming Reset and the actions of both Babylon and the Beast.
    As we speak, weaponry and resources are being moved in the UK area, namely Scotland, and the area of which I associate you with, Glasgow. A US ally is playing their hand in something serious, just so you know.
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    Thinking reacted to Pudgy in The beginning of World War III?   
    Dmitar has promised to leave the Archive April 2nd.
    In a strange way I will miss his agenda driven spasm downvoting.
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    Thinking reacted to Space Merchant in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Essentially what I told Witness concerning the difference of those who are Prophets Inspired vs Prophets Not Inspired. Although both have Spiritual Insight, only the Prophets Inspired had such abilities to heal and raise the dead, even have visions, etc.
    What I do not understand is the mainstream idea that such things people assume those Inspired still exist despite the very history of Christianity refuting the claim itself.
    This was mentioned in a response to Witness.
    Pages 39-41
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    Thinking reacted to Pudgy in The beginning of World War III?   
    “Plans against NATO” could mean anything.
    I am hoping it just means to demilitarize Ukraine.  The prevailing winds are from the West to the East,  and the Ukraine does have (did have ?) biological and chemical weapons research laboratories, and presumably production facilities ….. and they have a large border with the Russian Federation. After he destroys that capability, perhaps he will stop.
    Just like the JFK assassination in 1963 perhaps we will not know for a hundred years …. Or perhaps never ….. what it was REALLY all about.

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    Thinking got a reaction from Dmitar in Brothers helping Brothers Jehovah be with them.   
    Mathew  5 :22
    But I say to you but that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council and whoever says ‘you fool’ will be liable to the hell of fire.
    Your abuse and the fact that Satan is laughing his head off about you fighting with and causing dissension  amongst Jehovahs people..I have no alternative but to step away from you via blocking such behavior.
     
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    Thinking got a reaction from Dmitar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Goodness me,,,you certainly do your reasearch…
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    Thinking got a reaction from Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Goodness me,,,you certainly do your reasearch…
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    Thinking reacted to TrueTomHarley in Brothers helping Brothers Jehovah be with them.   
    Yes. And perhaps these two are among the ones greeted at the border by their brothers. Though the people of Ukraine have been through a lot, many of our brothers have been through even more, so it is not such a horrible thing if they are greeted especially by members of their own faith.
    https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/russia/Fellow-Witnesses-Loyally-Support-Brother-Konstantin-Bazhenov-During-His-Imprisonment-Release-and-Deportation/
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    Thinking reacted to Equivocation in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    The actions of these super powered countries are definitely hurting people who don't want any involvement. The News is so confusing that eventually you don't pay attention to it at all unless something serious does happen, but at the same time, their actions are affecting us - paying more for rice and gas right now. I heard wheat is also up in price by 30ish percent or so not too sure, so, anything wheat related will slowly climb up.
    Does anyone know if any of our brothers and sisters got out of Ukraine?
    The sting from Russia and what they did back in 2017, some EXJWs are bringing it up again >_<, wanting Russia to deal with our brothers and sisters in the country; those who supported the ban apparently...
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    Thinking reacted to Space Merchant in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    For some of us who are aware, we knew things of this nature will happened. So we don't panic compared to the majority of society, and we take precaution. This is why I explained to Matthew what a Grey Man and Woman is, so the spotlight is not on those who passively display this nature.
    That being said, with the things I just learned, the unaware or those who are not prepared will get caught off guard, perhaps in a span of 6 months; the US and their allies.
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    Thinking reacted to Space Merchant in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Because everyone can see your reaction whenever it comes up. Only at random you make a spectacle about it when there is no need to.
    There was a John Butler II, which was later removed by the Admin, hence why 4Jah2me came to play and the purposely noticeable avoidance of not only being associated with the name, but self talk in 3rd person. For if it never existed before, I would not have brought it up, for I came across it a while back regarding our discussion on a Bible translated term of which you thought only the Watchtower changed on purpose when in reality, there was no Strong's violation - Gridled [up] vs Nakedness.
    Acts 2 is in regards to Pentecost, not anything pertaining to after the death of John. The fact you didn't understand what was conveyed showed that for someone who is patiently waiting for truth, makes no effort to understand Scriptures concerning the difference between Prophets Inspired and Prophets Not Inspired.
    People prior to John's death were indeed prophets inspired, many of them, however, John was the last of them, the last of the Apostles, and the abelites he and the others have, had ceased - hence my comment regarding Apostle John, who was Exiled in Patmos (1 Corinthians 13:9-11). God's Holy Spirit produced gifts such as visions and the like, an ability John and the others had, hence the gift of prophecy, speaking in tongues, etc. even that of special knowledge, however, these gifts had since passed away, for such has been rendered ineffective; made obsolete, however the early church still had God's backing.
    This is even more evident by means of Apostle John's students, noted as Ignatius and Polycarp, what transpired afterwards. John's students were also weaponized by Trinitarians to push the Trinity Doctrine by taking their words out of context, likewise, with Justin Martyr.
    That being said, the abelites had since passed away, for a long time now, and should anyone tell you otherwise, or state they have visions, Paul's words comes to mind in Galatians 1:1-11. This isn't the first time I mentioned, this, even to you.
    John outlived practically the majority of Apostles also, lived out near the end of the 1st century.
    Even Srecko got this wrong - 
    That being said, I doubt you'll find anyone who can transfigure themselves and or have visions on the level of an inspired prophet. And I can bank on that with absolute certainty.
    It isn't an American thing, the British knows this too, the youth often times meme about it. In reality the term is in relation to yelling, one can only be assertive in a text/comment by word structure. Wise to understand the difference.
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    Thinking reacted to Equivocation in Will Life Ever Return to Normal? How the Bible Can Help in a Post-Pandemic World   
    The old normal might never come back so we have to adapt in this new setting.
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    Thinking reacted to Pudgy in Will Life Ever Return to Normal? How the Bible Can Help in a Post-Pandemic World   
    Things are so absolutely nutty nowadays, that I’m beginning to wonder if Gog of Magog it’s not a specific personality, and the name Joe Biden comes immediately to mind.
    I wish I knew.
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    Thinking reacted to BroRando in Will Life Ever Return to Normal? How the Bible Can Help in a Post-Pandemic World   
    The Bible foretold not only the serious problems we now face but also the better times we can expect soon. It describes a future that is way beyond what human governments could hope to achieve, one that only God can provide. “He will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore.”—Revelation 21:4.
    Jehovah’s Witnesses take comfort in the Bible’s promises of a bright future, and this helps them to see beyond the pandemic. They also support one another by obeying the Bible’s command to gather regularly for worship. (Hebrews 10:24, 25) Everyone is welcome to attend the meetings of Jehovah’s Witnesses, which are being held virtually during the pandemic.
    Others agree that joining together with Jehovah’s Witnesses for worship has been helpful during these difficult times. For example, a woman infected with COVID-19 accepted an invitation to join Jehovah’s Witnesses’ virtual meetings.
    These meetings helped her emotionally despite her ongoing health issues from the virus. She later said: “I feel that I am part of this family too. Reading the Bible gives me peace of mind and inner calm. It helps me focus on my hope for the future instead of my problems. Thank you for helping me find that connection with God that I have sought all my life.”
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    Thinking reacted to TrueTomHarley in THINGS THAT ARE TRULY INSPIRATIONAL!   
    Besides, unless I am very mistaken (which is possible—there’s only so much you can discern online) you have broken that pattern by softening somewhat. Otherwise, I agree with you that no one has budged one iota.
    That makes you the least calcified of all here!
    you ‘ol pork chop
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    Thinking reacted to TrueTomHarley in THINGS THAT ARE TRULY INSPIRATIONAL!   
    Not to worry. You’re good here—I mean, relatively.
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    Thinking got a reaction from Amidstheroses in Brothers helping Brothers Jehovah be with them.   
    Well I wouldn’t let them around my kids…alas the days are dark…and they at times seep into the congregations…it’s a sad fact..and hard to understand  at times….but inevitable…
    But Jehovah has had complaints according to revelations… with all his congregations down thru times….we really are no different than the Israelites that were in the wilderness…once we understand  that…REALLY understand that….the walk will become easier…and as you reminded us….Paul had to deal with false brothers as well…..but he also dealt with such great faithful ones with all their faults..whom he loved…so it was certainly worth it in the long run for him.
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