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    Thinking reacted to TrueTomHarley in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    Exactly. The woman’s deranged.
    The way to look at wild beast prophesies is as you have often said—the agency that comes into it’s own as humanistic ideologues put it to powerful use. 
    “Now, the fly in the ointment of saying that international organization for bringing peace and security to the world, presuming to do what only God’s kingdom can do and thus betraying its ‘blasphemous’ nature—the fly in the ointment of saying that international organization is the mighty eighth king that draws its power from the seven is that it sure doesn’t act mighty. The sky-blue helmeted troops that nobody pays any attention to trying to enforce peace, whereas everybody knows you don’t put troops in sky-blue helmets. I mean, they’re sort of like Boy Scouts—they mean well but are not to be taken seriously. 
    Maybe what must be done is reappraise the beast giving breath (Revelation 13:15) to the image of the beast, and figure just when does it do that? At its creation, yes, first as its 1919 forerunner League of Nations, then, after it goes into the abyss and re-emerges, as the United Nations, yes, then it “tells those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the wild beast that had the sword-stroke and yet revived.” (Vs 14) 
    But there’s not a lot more breath breathed into it. You don’t breathe life into it while the harlot is riding high, hailing it as the “political expression of God’s kingdom on earth” at exactly the same time as Jehovah’s Witnesses are galvanized to “advertise, advertise, advertise the [real] king and his kingdom. You breathe life into it once is has grown weary of the harlot and is showing signs of bucking it—once the dominant culture has turned atheistic.
    You don’t breathe life into it until the times immediately ahead? That humanistic framework is put in place as of the image’s founding, and then not much is done with it—until what is just ahead of us? Is it with the UN Agenda 2030 that life is breathed into it, and with that human scheme “the wild beast should both speak and cause to be killed all those who refuse to worship the image of the wild beast [as] It puts under compulsion all people—the small and the great, the rich and the poor, the free and the slaves—that these should be marked on their right hand or on their forehead, and that nobody can buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.”  (Vs 15-18)
    The humanistic way of saving the earth—tamp down that population growth. What can be better than pushing sexual conduct that won’t result in babies? Cool down that planet. How better to do it than squeezing out fossil fuels so that sun and wind will pick up the slack and if it doesn’t—well then, adjust. Redistribute that money. How better to do it that destroying the economy and re-emerging it in a great reset? Tamp down those freedoms people fixate on—they can’t handle them. Remake religion so that it’s ‘my way or the highway’—if it comes on board for backing human schemes, it can stay for now.
    None of this can be done openly, for people love their own comfort and they love their own nations. They won’t stand by to see them eviscerated. It must be done clandestinely and it must be done by trillionaires—nobody else would have the wherewithal to pull it off. Oh, yeah—plenty of conspiracies can be spun from this. The problem with conspiracy theories is that, once a few of them turn out to be true, you tend to believe anything that comes down the pipe.
    Some of the current conspiracy theories involve COVID 19, its origin, its trajectory, and regimens to deal with it. I’ve read the Breggin and the Mercola books and they do make for good reads—both of them heavily endnoted. The trouble is their solution to thwarting a conspiracy always lies in reverting to the status quo—as if all was hunky dory before COVID-19 revealed itself. Breggin keeps referring to those who benefit—and there are those who benefit enormously—as “global predators”fixated on their own “power, wealth, and self-aggrandizement.” If he says it once, he says it a dozen times. Why does he do that? They are humans fixing the planet—the humanistic way. 
    On the other hand, the nations of this earth always paint themselves with laudable goals. They never paint themselves as beasts. Yet that is how the Bible paints them, for that is how they behave—ripping, tearing, and devouring each other and whoever is caught in the crossfire. Sometimes they even turn on their own citizens in the guise of helping them. So maybe Breggin is on to something after all.”
    (from https://www.tomsheepandgoats.com/2021/12/doesnt-that-new-wild-beast-look-an-awful-lot-like-the-bible-wild-beasts.html )
     
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    Thinking reacted to Arauna in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    Everything as you go along! See the above example -   You have GB-OCD:- everything is interpreted through this lens!  No prophecy you utter does not have the GB in it!   The beast is the GB; the man of lawlessness is the GB; I can go on and on with so many examples!   The Beast is in the temple of god?  why do you  interpret it this way?.... Because your GB hate-OCD dictates it is the .... wait for it...... the GB..... 
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    Thinking reacted to Arauna in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    The end war is between imperfect wicked HUMAN governments (under Satan - 666) versus Jesus Christ - the appointed King of Jehovah.  This is clear from scripture.   You are sloppy again.  Read Revelation 19 where it discusses the destruction during Armageddon!
    "And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the one seated on the horse and against his army.g 20  And the wild beast was caught, and along with it the false propheth that performed in front of it the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the wild beasti and those who worship its image.j While still alive, they both were hurled into the fiery lake that burns with sulfur.k 21  But the rest were killed off with the long sword that proceeded out of the mouth of the one seated on the horse.l And all the birds were filled with their flesh.m
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    Thinking reacted to Arauna in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    This same scripture that you quote says - WICKED men are like the sea - "  “But the wicked are like the restless sea that cannot calm down, And its waters keep tossing up seaweed and mire.  (You are a very sloppy bible student - as I have said before).  YOu throw everything together and hope it makes sense...... 
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    Thinking reacted to TrueTomHarley in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    Because Jesus portrays them that way. (Luke 5)
    Come come, tell the truth and shame the Devil.
    The WT explanation of the wild beast is instantly recognizable. You don’t have to agree with that interpretation to see how the International agency for peace and security is “an image” of the various governments and how it derives its power from them, and that through it ALL the nations  (ten horns) briefly combine to rule.
    Your interpretation? It is that of the leadership of a religion that represents 1/1000th of the world population that even now, most are only vaguely familiar with and many have never heard of it at all. Seriously? Whereas the WT interpretation is recognizable worldwide, very few people have any idea of what “anointed” Christians are. They don’t even know what it is, and yet your grudge against them comprises the cornerstone of your belief system.
    It’s just you playing Marvel Avenger evil superanointed heroes battling Marvel Avenger good superanointed heroes for who gets preaching dominion over the little people of the world.
    It’s just pure loony—you playing out your grudge at tireless and tiresome length—making as though it was the very central theme of the Bible’s climax.
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    Thinking reacted to Arauna in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    Hi Tom.... The seventh head of the beast (Anglo American) originates the league of nations and the UN.  The UN is now calling the shots behind the scenes.  These mandates and the environmental mandates - which you will see soon -is also coming from the UN. Who is behind the UN ?  The WEF and DARPA/CIA  technology.  DARPA was involved in developing this bioweapon virus and its patents. ... since 2002. Many other bioweapon patents and geoengineering is also part of the military industrial complex.   The nano-tech, brain research with chips; and conductor bio-materials is much father that we anticipate.  Also the super-databases with the cloud which are being built for the UN.  https://www.wfp.org/news/palantir-and-wfp-partner-help-transform-global-humanitarian-delivery (I just pulled up Palantir ). This database it seems will eventually include an inventory of all humans. animals, all food, water, our energy use, income and spending... and much more.
    When this is done - it will have 24/7 surveillance on everyone in the West (this is the plan) and will even be able to predict intent of a crime - so they say. The plan is to connect all people to the AI. I think UN will then have the teeth to openly call even more shots (because the people behind it will not reveal themselves).  People like Gates are only the front-men....but very much willing to be used for a love of power and money.  All  the patents first go to British MI5 /6 in collaboration with the secret military organizations in USA. This is how FB was stolen and how Gates bought a company for very little and used its technology.  FB and Microsoft as well as AI research through Amazon and Musk's companies has connections to the USA military complex. They all have done outsourced work for the industrial military complex.
    I do not know if UN will openly rule for an hour or if it will remain as it is now - time will tell. 
    This is why this new transsexual/transhumanist philosophy is so divisive (more clay and iron).  I have not yet researched the the UN Health agreement of 2005, but it apparently allows for a UN coalition army to go uninvited into any country which has anarchy -type of situation (they may use China because the UN is working with China too!) 
    During this pandemic, thousands of people were bussed in across the border without being tested for the virus.  They were all sent to small villages.  The same is happening in Europe...  The national state is no longer a state!  Even the history is being rewritten and you are "far-right" if you dare to comment on a nation's rewritten history.  Soon, anyone who is classified anti-vax or far-right or any group which is Islamophobic and so forth will face government reprisals  (Jehovah will at some time put in their heart to turn against religion.
    South America now has far left governments now and it is only Poland holding out against the UN cross-border plans.  They managed to change Austria 's PM and now this country has some of the worst lock-downs.  I will not put it past the EU to manage a new govt in Hungary and Poland because the shenanigans against them is bad.
    It is about eugenics and transhumanism .... and the evil condition of humans who do not believe in God. We have seen enough history in the 20th century to convince us what atheist governments are capable of - the oppression and killing of their own citizens.  I watched a personal interview with a North Korea woman. She said she was occupied with planning to get her next meal every day......  the battle for food keep people in a suppressed mental state all the time.  The soldier which escaped to S Korea about 2 years ago//// he would have died if he did not escape.  He had all kinds of parasites in his intestines..... and soldiers usually have better care than ordinary citizens.
    This new world government is a Coup d'etat by Satan... to take over the entire world  to control all people. ...and get them compromised against Jehovah by its oppression.  I think the final human government will be the most wicked cherry on top of the human historical cake! 
    Satan likes deceit and hidden traps.  This time the most wealthy people who want the earth for themselves are doing a stealth take-over.  They figure that AI will make life easier for them and too many people on earth producing babies will be just too many consumers to feed - especially if they do not have useful jobs! 
    How far they will get and just how ugly the reality will be, this depends on when Jehovah decides he has proven beyond reasonable doubt that human governments need to go forever! ... 
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    Thinking reacted to Arauna in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    YOu are WRONG - they believe like you do-  that the beast is the anti-Christ - all thrown together!
    Now they have come up with a new idea!  The vaccine is the mark of the beast - which JWs do NOT believe!
    We believe that imperfect human governments are the different beats....  the image of the beast is the UN. 
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    Thinking reacted to TrueTomHarley in CHINA: Fake News vs. Real News   
    No.
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    Thinking got a reaction from Dmitar in CHINA: Fake News vs. Real News   
    No need to ask anyone if they are a JW here…but you did…arauna is..it’s obvious to all..so why the need to insult her with that question.
    I dont ask space merchant as I know he isn’t….but I respect him and his beliefs…as far as I have seen he’s never insulted anyone…and I have learnt from him.
    Look Dmitar..you seem to have been around the forums before …you sound experienced enough…..and no…people here shouldn’t be rude and abnoxious…it’s not the Christian way….but we are all so imperfect…we are all battling our own weaknesses …which is why I stepped back as I can be just as bad and my fruit ages of the spirit were flying out the window..but hey…you have had a few digs yourself…your human…
    but why do you want to be included in this fold…but as you say…it’s an open forum…so good luck with it.
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    Thinking got a reaction from Matthew9969 in CHINA: Fake News vs. Real News   
    Are you one?….being a witness of the Almighty does not make us push overs..or doormats….I dont join in a lot here because it gets a bit childish ….but do not be mistaken Dmitar….Jesus is the Chief Commander of Jehovahs army…he trained and was with Joshua and Kaleb and their ilk to go in and slaughter men women and children and to do so without any compassion  or sorrow….and he had good reasons for that tough seemingly cruel action….why are YOU here…if you are not JW…do you want to find error with us…..don’t bother….we have a massive amount of errors that have proven to be cruel and ruthless at times……I am not like some here who won’t acknowledge them….but…we also have much love and empathy…and the ONLY people that put Jehovahs name back on high where it belongs…however you want to pronounce it….they/we are also the only people that organized a massive preaching work at much effort and cost to get Jehovahs plan known and the hope out to the nations…..all that even with those massive errors…and just for that one fact alone…he will reward any….ANY…who have tried to do that……….so what is it you want from here….why are you here?
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    Thinking reacted to TrueTomHarley in CHINA: Fake News vs. Real News   
    Right here: 

    I’m working up a post on this one. Not quite there yet, but an excerpt is: 
    It didn’t take long for word to spread about the new UN statue—doesn’t it looks a lot like one of those end-time Bible beasts? "Did they really think that they could put this up without anyone noticing?" said Michael  Snyder, who runs a religious blog.
    The statue reminds me of Geoffrey Jackson’s words that, not only does Jehovah do something, but he does it in style. No, not that Jehovah gooses them to erect that statue, or any other. It is a gift from the Mexican government. But it’s like when people do something unknowingly that fits right in to the narrative, almost like one of those hooks in jaws scenarios.
    I mean, come on! Here the JW organization has for 80 years identified the UN organization as the wild beast that “was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss,” the wild beast that is the image of the one that “was like a leopard, but its feet were like those of a bear, and its mouth was like a lion’s mouth [which] the dragon gave to the beast its power and its throne and great authority,” the wild beast that draws its power from the seven world powers of Bible history it reflects, the wild beast that through it ALL the (ten) kings of the earth get a temporary crack at world rulership—who can forget that Daniel vision of the beast like a lion with wings of an eagle?—the JW organization puts such identification on the table, and then the UN itself erects a statue as though to say, “Yep—that’s us!” A guy can be forgiven the feeling that someone is manipulating the minions. 
    Enter Scopes.com, the secular fact-checking site. Scopes.com, who wouldn’t know the significance of a scripture if they choked on one as a chicken bone. Scopes.com, who explains it all away by observing that, yes it is a composite beast, and yes, there are similar beasts in Daniel and Revelation, but this beast says it is good and the beasts of the Bible say they are bad—and besides, the Bible vision is a flying lion, whereas the UN displays a flying jaguar, and don’t those Bible people know the science of zoology? With this bit of secular theology, Snopes figures it has fact-checked the case closed.
    https://www.snopes.com/news/2021/12/14/united-nations-end-times-sculpture/
    Don’t get your wild beasts from Snopes, who wouldn’t know a wild beast from a gerbil. Get them from Jehovah’s Witnesses who would and who have written it up here.
    What is Wild beast: https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/scarlet-beast-of-revelation-17/
    It’s not enough that the UN erects that swords into plowshares statue from Isaiah and it’s but inspirational sloganeering for them without a prayer of it ever becoming reality and then Jehovah’s Witnesses come along and implement it without fuss? 
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    Thinking got a reaction from TrueTomHarley in CHINA: Fake News vs. Real News   
    Are you one?….being a witness of the Almighty does not make us push overs..or doormats….I dont join in a lot here because it gets a bit childish ….but do not be mistaken Dmitar….Jesus is the Chief Commander of Jehovahs army…he trained and was with Joshua and Kaleb and their ilk to go in and slaughter men women and children and to do so without any compassion  or sorrow….and he had good reasons for that tough seemingly cruel action….why are YOU here…if you are not JW…do you want to find error with us…..don’t bother….we have a massive amount of errors that have proven to be cruel and ruthless at times……I am not like some here who won’t acknowledge them….but…we also have much love and empathy…and the ONLY people that put Jehovahs name back on high where it belongs…however you want to pronounce it….they/we are also the only people that organized a massive preaching work at much effort and cost to get Jehovahs plan known and the hope out to the nations…..all that even with those massive errors…and just for that one fact alone…he will reward any….ANY…who have tried to do that……….so what is it you want from here….why are you here?
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    Thinking got a reaction from JW Insider in CHINA: Fake News vs. Real News   
    Are you one?….being a witness of the Almighty does not make us push overs..or doormats….I dont join in a lot here because it gets a bit childish ….but do not be mistaken Dmitar….Jesus is the Chief Commander of Jehovahs army…he trained and was with Joshua and Kaleb and their ilk to go in and slaughter men women and children and to do so without any compassion  or sorrow….and he had good reasons for that tough seemingly cruel action….why are YOU here…if you are not JW…do you want to find error with us…..don’t bother….we have a massive amount of errors that have proven to be cruel and ruthless at times……I am not like some here who won’t acknowledge them….but…we also have much love and empathy…and the ONLY people that put Jehovahs name back on high where it belongs…however you want to pronounce it….they/we are also the only people that organized a massive preaching work at much effort and cost to get Jehovahs plan known and the hope out to the nations…..all that even with those massive errors…and just for that one fact alone…he will reward any….ANY…who have tried to do that……….so what is it you want from here….why are you here?
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    Thinking reacted to Arauna in CHINA: Fake News vs. Real News   
    Advice taken - but I have to add.   I usually like to hear people talk about their own experiences - how they fled - how they escaped and why.  Such as Tibetan families, Uyger families who still have families back in China....and women who were picked up by the government - just before their babies were born - babies taken out, sterilized and the women thrown on the side of the road......far away from home.  This is the kind of EXPERIENCES  I have listened to.    I like personal stories.... so one can evaluate all the facts to see if the story is fake or not. 
     I do not trust any news.  I worked for newspapers and paid for advertisements on TV - I know where their finances come from. Much of the news received large sums from CHINESE cover organizations. At present more than 50 percent of finances for TV stations and other media is coming from pharmaceutical industrial complex as is the FDA and most of the Allopathic health industry.  Money talks.  Hospitals and the entire system have been compromised by money.
    The smoking gun for me is the fact that the world-class virologists, excellent heart specialists and other experts,  who know what they are talking about, are being silenced.  One need not have a PHD to figure out that the world around us is a false world created for us by those in power.... and this includes China.  The West is imitating China - as I said on this platform before.
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    Thinking got a reaction from Arauna in CHINA: Fake News vs. Real News   
    Are you one?….being a witness of the Almighty does not make us push overs..or doormats….I dont join in a lot here because it gets a bit childish ….but do not be mistaken Dmitar….Jesus is the Chief Commander of Jehovahs army…he trained and was with Joshua and Kaleb and their ilk to go in and slaughter men women and children and to do so without any compassion  or sorrow….and he had good reasons for that tough seemingly cruel action….why are YOU here…if you are not JW…do you want to find error with us…..don’t bother….we have a massive amount of errors that have proven to be cruel and ruthless at times……I am not like some here who won’t acknowledge them….but…we also have much love and empathy…and the ONLY people that put Jehovahs name back on high where it belongs…however you want to pronounce it….they/we are also the only people that organized a massive preaching work at much effort and cost to get Jehovahs plan known and the hope out to the nations…..all that even with those massive errors…and just for that one fact alone…he will reward any….ANY…who have tried to do that……….so what is it you want from here….why are you here?
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    Thinking got a reaction from Pudgy in CHINA: Fake News vs. Real News   
    Are you one?….being a witness of the Almighty does not make us push overs..or doormats….I dont join in a lot here because it gets a bit childish ….but do not be mistaken Dmitar….Jesus is the Chief Commander of Jehovahs army…he trained and was with Joshua and Kaleb and their ilk to go in and slaughter men women and children and to do so without any compassion  or sorrow….and he had good reasons for that tough seemingly cruel action….why are YOU here…if you are not JW…do you want to find error with us…..don’t bother….we have a massive amount of errors that have proven to be cruel and ruthless at times……I am not like some here who won’t acknowledge them….but…we also have much love and empathy…and the ONLY people that put Jehovahs name back on high where it belongs…however you want to pronounce it….they/we are also the only people that organized a massive preaching work at much effort and cost to get Jehovahs plan known and the hope out to the nations…..all that even with those massive errors…and just for that one fact alone…he will reward any….ANY…who have tried to do that……….so what is it you want from here….why are you here?
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    Thinking reacted to Space Merchant in CHINA: Fake News vs. Real News   
    Practically the biggest thing being talked about outside of the MSM, that is, if the censor parade does not get to you.
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    Thinking reacted to Dmitar in CHINA: Fake News vs. Real News   
    Final note for the interested. Who is taking the lead and is more prominent and vocal in today’s societies across the world?
    False Jews, Apostates
    In this church they are warned about “those” who claim that they are Jews but are not. We don't think this is warning us about literal Jews, but it’s about those who claim to be God’s people (false Christians). The temple and the Jewish nation had already been destroyed by this time, which would help to prove that these Jews should be looked at as spiritual Jews or Christians, just as we see in Rev Chapter 7. The Christian church, early on replaced literal Jews as God’s people, after they had rejected Christ. It was only those who were God’s people in their hearts, and who had faith in the blood of Christ, that were truly Jews, God had rejected the literal nation of the Jews. Even natural born Jews were not true Jews in God’s sight, unless they were Jews in their heart. They will receive favor again in the next age but they will have to say blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord.
     
    Rom 2:28-29) 28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. 29 But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God. (NAU)
    Gal 3:6-7) 6 Even so Abraham BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS RECKONED TO HIM AS
    RIGHTEOUSNESS. 7 Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham.
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    Thinking reacted to Space Merchant in CHINA: Fake News vs. Real News   
    Yep. Something I said a while back is that what is holding back and or slowing the process is because of the Constitution of the United States. As for other countries, namely some EU, even the UK, and the like, they will slowly crumble, which is happening now, to a system of which will cause a not so happy reaction among the people who are not among those who accept compliance.
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    Thinking reacted to TrueTomHarley in CHINA: Fake News vs. Real News   
    Better throw in a bone for the dog @Pudgy. I mentioned how I would listen to Rush if driving with the car radio, but otherwise no. However, in my janitorial years, which ended well before my retirement, I used to record and play back his show every night. During Clinton’s presidency (and Clinton seems to have been a reasonably sound president, as presidents go) Rush had some impersonator who would adapt Beatles songs and sing in his booming Clintonesque voice, cracking at the peaks. They were sidesplittingly funny:
    I’m a real nowhere man, sitting here in Washington, making all my nowhere plans for you, buddy. Don’t care bout you point of view. I know what is best for you….and so forth. (Sung to the tune of Nowhere Man, of course) Pudgy might even be able to recall all the lyrics.
    Also for Pudgy: It is Rush that made me realize that my own Dad never cared for politics. On a trip of the three Harley boys—my dad, myself, and my brother—to visit family in Ohio, my brother and I conspired to play Rush when his show came on. It was no more than 10 minutes, if that, then my dad began to grouse about ‘You like that? All that contention and arguing?’
    He didn’t care for politics. All these years I had imagined he did, since at family gatherings politics was a frequent topic of discussion. Turned out that my mom’s dad, a staunch conservative, would carry on endlessly about it, and Dad was just too circumspect and amiable to tell his father-in-law to zip it.
    Recently, now that Pop has died, I accompanied my brother, who is into ancestry. Believe it or not, he tracked down the grave of my great great great great grandfather. It’s off a dirt road drivable only by serious SUV, which is itself off a dirt road. The tiny gray speck at the focal point of the first pic is my brother’s non-SUV car. We had to walk from there.
    I’m getting so I like to tell stories, and I do it right here on the old hen’s website, to reward her for being so indulgent with me.
    ”Making all my nowhere plans for you, buddy!!” I love how that song ends.



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    Thinking reacted to TrueTomHarley in CHINA: Fake News vs. Real News   
    You would think so. That makes perfect sense. But there are so many cases in which academics has been purchased so as support whatever is the preferred view. For every case of academics forming the preferred view, there is another in which the preferred view forms academics. See the response I gave you re Pharma and the Brazilian study that has superseded the doctor-patient relationship. Many maintain that the evolution of college and school curricula is another example in which the preferred view molds academics.
    To adapt the words of Yakov Smirnoff and satisfy JWI, is this a great [world] or what that can turn soundness of mind on its head? Nor can we look to “academics” for support on the origin of life. Certainly not with regard to any flood. Nor on the utility of blood transfusion. Apparently not with secular dating chronology. And not in what is called social “science,” even gender “science.” Is the foregoing all examples of Jehovah turning the wisdom of the wise into foolishness?
    The earthly organization is not blind to academics but it certainly doesn’t allow itself to be shoved around by it, nor even its hand-in-glove “critical thinking” that is all the rage today, which so manifestly can be hijacked by other interests as to be anything but a reliable guide—something to factor in, but no more.
    From Day 1 the organization has run experiences to illustrate whatever point they make that will infuriate academic devotees of “critical thinking” and, truth be told, sometimes even some of us. “Consider Danny,” it will say. “He and his wife decided to put God to the test by doing such and such” and it goes on to relate the successful outcome. It’s a single example. What about Sammy and his wife who also did such and such and it turned out horrendously for them? But in fact, as long as you do not claim it as more “proof” than it is, as long as you do not claim it is guaranteed outcome everyone will experience,, I guess you can reason this way. I mean, everyone else does when trying to motivate you into doing something. College recruiters certainly do. So it’s okay. Very few things can be reduced to simple enough terms so that “academics” or “science” or “critical thinking” can be of overriding use.
    https://www.tomsheepandgoats.com/2021/11/a-scientist-pours-one-liquid-after-another-upon-a-duck-placed-on-the-table-his-companion-carefully-calibrates-the-results-on.html
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    Thinking reacted to Arauna in CHINA: Fake News vs. Real News   
    Frankly - the core argument is: whether China is totalitarian. You refuse to acknowledge that they are killing their own citizens and incarcerating citizens because they are not allowed to have a religion.  This is why these lengthy arguments lead to zero because the real issue is always negated and changed.... ... America is also doing so, or America is using money for this and that!  We all know USA has a CIA which is eveil and has overthrown countries and did terrible things. BUT - China is continuously having 24/7 surveillance on their own citizens in the cities and are eliminating citizens as though they are fodder!  .....a practice which will soon be in the west as China is the model for the NWO. The passport is a control mechanism being sneaked in. 
    As I said before - numerous times here!   We have an example of the Nazis :  the Jews themselves never believed that humans could do this to other humans and were slaughtered. ......  I on the other hand do believe that humans are fully capable of doing this! ... especially if government propaganda and surveillance is part of every day life!  it also buys the  silence of the majority and very scared citizens.
    Some of them have already come true - we are seeing totalitarian mandates spreading throughout Europe (without regard for the persons with underlying conditions).... - and I can quote you numerous scriptures which indicate that this will be the case! 
    I am just preparing my brothers for the worst scenario which seems to be coming to fruition. A totalitarian government can also push their idea of morality and eugenics on a propagandized population.  Those who fear and conform may find themselves marked with the idols the beast is forcing them to worship.  
    Of course I know that Jehovah will step in.... and stop their Babylonian tower !  But it will not be a picnic before we get to this point!
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    Thinking reacted to Arauna in CHINA: Fake News vs. Real News   
    Many academics are now agreeing on my opinion - especially those who are trying to publish studies on the heart problems young people now experience with the new obligated "sleever"  interventions.  Two reputable academics could NOT get their studies published (openly rejected) because all journals are now owned by those who are running the great reset. This is not science but scientism.  
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    Thinking reacted to Arauna in CHINA: Fake News vs. Real News   
    News not always comes as a BIG block of shock!  It can come quite like stealth!  Like a thief in the night....
     
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    Thinking reacted to Dmitar in CHINA: Fake News vs. Real News   
    Correct, why then fall under the same snare of a town crier?
    Can you explain your position here? Wouldn't any organization in this world, and every man, be individually judged? Was Jesus not judged by man?
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