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    Thinking got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    I remember GB member Dan Sydlik writing or saying in a talk….he had a hard time with brothers trying so hard to be righteous….and said they…just needed to do their best and leave the rest to the ransom."…..
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    Thinking reacted to TrueTomHarley in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    Witnesses plainly don’t fit the traditional definition of a cult that we all grew up with. Time was, if you fell under the spell of a charismatic leader, withdrew from society, and began doing strange things, you just might be a member of a cult.
    However, the goal posts have been moved! There is a new definition of cult, and by this definition we do fit. If you belong to a group in which there is significant human authority and if you think outside of the mainstream box, you are a cult. That nutcase BITE expert thinks half the country (United States) belongs to a cult for voting for the candidate he disfavors.
    So the question becomes how do you adapt to this new normal?
    One way is simply refuse to accept it. “Cult” has had specific meaning for centuries, and just don’t budge from that specific meaning. The only reason it has changed is because humanists are intent upon snuffing out religion that becomes powerful through organization. If it is only a matter of uncoordinated individuals each acting (or more often, not acting) upon his or her own personal interpretation of God, that is less of a threat to them, and they are okay with it. Disconnected individuals are relatively easy to pick off or assimilate, but it is much harder with a centralized coordinated group.
    Another way of dealing with the updated definition is to accept it but also point out that the Bible thereby becomes a cult manual. It plainly speaks of a first century group in which there was significant human authority. That gathering of the apostles of older men in 49CE (Acts 15) sent out decrees (decisions) to the congregation that were to be observed. (Acts 16:4-5)
    A supplemental way is to revert to the original meaning of cult, for it comes from the same root word as does agriculture. Whereas agriculture is literally caring for the earth, cult in the religious sense can be taken as caring for the matters of God. I’ll take it. It is not too different from serving as ‘guardians of doctrine.’
    One can also be very resourceful and turn that taunt (for that is how it is usually intended) on its head, the same way some innovative police years ago dealt with the taunt pigs. They advertised that is stood for Pride, Integrity Guts, and Service. In the same way, as applied to Witnesses, cult can stand for Courage, Unity, Love, and Truth.
    The villains don’t own the dictionary. We can make as much use of it as they. In the case of hostile ex-Witnesses, we can even adapt the Freddy Mercury song:
    We’re the apostates, my friends
    and we’ll keep on fighting till the end
    No way we’ll lost this
    Be sure you choose us
    Cause we’re the apostates of he world.
     
     
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    Thinking reacted to Space Merchant in How would solid, controvertible evidence of Extraterrestrial Aliens affect your Theology?   
    I was more focused on the original opening comment, haven't brushed over page 2, but yes. There are things that the human mind can't comprehend concerning aliens, and there are those, who are familiar with what I have mentioned, and it does not shake them, but enables them to tread carefully as is doing the research, i.e. Pentagon Reports and their confusion, focused base station lasers to fool people, Zimbabwe, etc.
    In my case, stuff like this is another day in the office, if it weren't for my own history, then perhaps in a different reality my armor of faith would succumb to several cracks.
    That being said, I said what I said because about a month ago, there was an discussion that lasted for almost 2 hours talking about aliens as is what I had brought up before.
    @ApostaBabe Linda James Indeed. Always busy. Even more now compared to before because of whom I now represent.
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    Thinking reacted to TrueTomHarley in How would solid, controvertible evidence of Extraterrestrial Aliens affect your Theology?   
    Alas, the editing feature is being sharply restricted lately—it shut down early, so I must make another comment to get the attention of @Space Merchant. Please read the above two comments.
    (And the delete function has disappeared! Yikes! This means I’ll have to use much more restraint with PSomH. How many times have I quickly slapped back at the dodo, then deleted my own hasty comment?)
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    Thinking reacted to Space Merchant in How would solid, controvertible evidence of Extraterrestrial Aliens affect your Theology?   
    Unfortunately, it would not shake up one's faith, especially in regards to my history whereas half of my family come from an area whereas in said area manifestations and influences are a thing. In some of these manifestations, there has been sightings of various odd looking creatures, even grey and green ones an example would be the greyish demonic figure standing over an infant child in the middle of the night looking at the ceiling, only discovered via smart camera in one's house. In addition, more and more of this is predominant in the realm of those who are practitioners of Black Magic otherwise known as Voodou.
    There has been some events to which even the air force was shocked, which sparks the question about shifting focus from space to the deep oceans. Then you have the situation with the African Children a while back that sent them into a mental induced ride of their life.
     
    That being said, in the past, people use to replica various nefarious things with the dead, but despite this, it has never shaken one's faith. Even present day with manifestations, black magic, deception and all the things that can break a man.
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    Thinking got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    Thinking DID NOT SAY THAT ,,,,!!!…I think you have got rabies…
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    Thinking got a reaction from TrueTomHarley in How would solid, controvertible evidence of Extraterrestrial Aliens affect your Theology?   
    I hope so too because he has a lot of common sense…and always fair and reasonable…
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    Thinking got a reaction from TrueTomHarley in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    That was tongue in cheek….must say it’s a relief you have let your burka drop and now the true you is visible …
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    Thinking got a reaction from Anna in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    Okay…I’ll shut up now …😉
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    Thinking got a reaction from Anna in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    Yes I agree with what you have said..but it’s not up to us to tell others not to go or proceed…it boils down to a personal choice…
    To be a teacher..lawyer or social worker or nurse now…we have to go to university…..we must learn to live with in the world…yet remain in good standing before Jehovah..
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    Thinking got a reaction from Pudgy in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    That is wise…..
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    Thinking reacted to Arauna in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    Hey - do not let them intimidate you.  You have a right to say what you think. They are silencing you when they do not accept solid logical reasoning from the bible. They only accept what they want from the bible and discard the rest!
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    Thinking reacted to Arauna in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    You did not say much. Show us where we went scripturally wrong and we will listen. At least I am prepared to listen.  Instead of adding something you just condemned and therefore agree with those who actually do not accept the bible as their guideline but their own ideas. 
    The first and last Adam were both humans (not god-men).  In this they were equal. Adam understood good and bad BEFORE he sinned - and so did Jesus before he died. Through his disobedient actions Adam brought sin and death; through obedience Jesus bought us life.  I did not mislead anyone with this statement!
    Unless you think you understand it better - then give the scriptures to prove this!
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    Thinking reacted to TrueTomHarley in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    To put down an unpleasant dodo with a quick retort is well-nigh irresistible, but I try not to do it unless the obstinacy seems entrenched and unchangable, and even then it is probably not for the best. 
    The benefits of speaking with obstinate ones is that it affords opportunity to see if you can keep yourself “restrained under evil.” Sometimes you find you cannot, and then it’s back to Bible 101 for you!
    the longer version of “you think we’re doing it all wrong, and we think you’re doing it all wrong—let’s just admit it,” includes the line, “We’ll steal people from your church if we can, and you’ll do the same to us.”
    It was late in life that I discovered this. With common ground established, I’ve had some very enjoyable discussions with people whom I used to do nothing but cross swords with. 
     
     
     

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    Thinking reacted to TrueTomHarley in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    More productive than that snarky answer is when I defuse the tension with such ‘rivals’ with, ‘Look, you think we’re doing it all wrong, and we think you’re doing it all wrong—let’s just admit it. But the point is that we are both ‘doing it,’ and we’re living in a world where most are not, even where many oppose.’ With that common ground established, you can sometimes engage them at an entirely different level, provided we don’t ‘use’ such detente to get the upper hand of a debate.
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    Thinking reacted to TrueTomHarley in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    You wouldn’t know a waste of time if one bit you in the rear end.
    Now here’s a waste of time:
    ”Good morning, brothers. Our first talk today is on the subject of dress and grooming.”

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    Thinking reacted to Arauna in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    I have been on this forum much longer than you.  I recognize hate-OCD when I see it.  All apostates have it and I usually do not even answer them.  So I think I will ignore you from now on. ......
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    Thinking reacted to TrueTomHarley in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    To the similar-person who declines to speak with me, saying “No, thanks—I’m CHRISTIAN!” I reply, 
    “Actually, only a Christian would do what I am doing. Frankly, I’m a little surprised that you are not doing it yourself.”* (Watch that smug smile fade.)
    *to be used ONLY in cases of blatant smug superiority, (you can smell it) NOT in the case of sincere misunderstanding.
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    Thinking reacted to Arauna in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    Rather get a job where one does not need this education. Universities are a terrible place right now! The pressures on the kids are unbelievable. Satan openly ruling.... and controlling the mind of your kids. One can rather do a degree online if you feel you need a degree. The universities offer mostly generic degrees right now - which gets one into debt but will not offer a good career.
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    Thinking got a reaction from Pudgy in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    Okay…I’ll shut up now …😉
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    Thinking got a reaction from Dmitar in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    Okay…I’ll shut up now …😉
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    Thinking got a reaction from Dmitar in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    Yes I agree with what you have said..but it’s not up to us to tell others not to go or proceed…it boils down to a personal choice…
    To be a teacher..lawyer or social worker or nurse now…we have to go to university…..we must learn to live with in the world…yet remain in good standing before Jehovah..
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    Thinking got a reaction from Dmitar in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
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    THE SATANIC BIBLE & BIRTHDAYS, THE IDOLATRY OF SELF ESTEEM THE HIGHEST OF SATAN'S HOLY DAYS/HOLIDAYS THURSDAY, DECEMBER 21, 2017   Posted by: Still Waters Revival Books | more.. 71,520+ views | 65,470+ clicks SWRB does not necessarily endorse anything outside or beyond the testimony against the pagan practice of birthday keeping in, or from, any of the information or sources quoted in this blog.
  24. Haha
    Thinking got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    Okay…I’ll shut up now …😉
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    Thinking got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    Yes I agree with what you have said..but it’s not up to us to tell others not to go or proceed…it boils down to a personal choice…
    To be a teacher..lawyer or social worker or nurse now…we have to go to university…..we must learn to live with in the world…yet remain in good standing before Jehovah..
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