Equivocation

He cultivates off the land because how he was raised, in his eyes it is better to not be tied down by things that majority of people are attached to, like debt. Even in my case there's Student Loan debt which isn't fun depending on how high you go up the Educational Food Chain. My Dad is similar in a way but he learned Trades at an early age so he eas able to manage, he prefers to live a simple life. Although he gives examples to me and others in my family of Bible Principles to apply, he was very clear on how debt and other things can push you down hard. Something I work to apply. I can't speak for my other peers tho because there's some who pay an insane amount of money for college, some of them can't pay it back and Interest creeps around d the corner. 

I do this all the time. It is a Famila thing, well a Latino thing. But visiting tends to be more than just checking up on someone's health but to keep them company, even reaching out if need be. Since I am among the youngest of my family, we've been taught that we jot only respect and honor our elders but to visit and talk with them. My father has taught us this and encourage myself and my relatives to do the same because he wants the family and their inner circle to be well connected. He isn't a fan of how some Families in America operate. So regardless if someone is a brother or not, we make the effort to visit physically or over the phone even run errands if anything. In my case family and friends live in the same area very close.
Also not sure if anyone mentioned this, it is also good to visit even younger ones too because mentally they're fragile.
 
The only person tough to visit is my other uncle who lives in the middle of nowhere, like Log Cabin life. You can only reach him by phone. This guy jokes that he fights bears lol 😆 

Yeah, that is why a family bond needs to be strong. Some family members have differences but at the end of the day the bond needs to be there so there needs to be a compromise. 

He cultivates off the land because how he was raised, in his eyes it is better to not be tied down by things that majority of people are attached to, like debt. Even in my case there's Student Loan debt which isn't fun depending on how high you go up the Educational Food Chain. My Dad is similar in a way but he learned Trades at an early age so he eas able to manage, he prefers to live a simple life. Although he gives examples to me and others in my family of Bible Principles to apply, he was very clear on how debt and other things can push you down hard. Something I work to apply. I can't speak for my other peers tho because there's some who pay an insane amount of money for college, some of them can't pay it back and Interest creeps around d the corner. 

I do this all the time. It is a Famila thing, well a Latino thing. But visiting tends to be more than just checking up on someone's health but to keep them company, even reaching out if need be. Since I am among the youngest of my family, we've been taught that we jot only respect and honor our elders but to visit and talk with them. My father has taught us this and encourage myself and my relatives to do the same because he wants the family and their inner circle to be well connected. He isn't a fan of how some Families in America operate. So regardless if someone is a brother or not, we make the effort to visit physically or over the phone even run errands if anything. In my case family and friends live in the same area very close.
Also not sure if anyone mentioned this, it is also good to visit even younger ones too because mentally they're fragile.
 
The only person tough to visit is my other uncle who lives in the middle of nowhere, like Log Cabin life. You can only reach him by phone. This guy jokes that he fights bears lol 😆 

I do this all the time. It is a Famila thing, well a Latino thing. But visiting tends to be more than just checking up on someone's health but to keep them company, even reaching out if need be. Since I am among the youngest of my family, we've been taught that we jot only respect and honor our elders but to visit and talk with them. My father has taught us this and encourage myself and my relatives to do the same because he wants the family and their inner circle to be well connected. He isn't a fan of how some Families in America operate. So regardless if someone is a brother or not, we make the effort to visit physically or over the phone even run errands if anything. In my case family and friends live in the same area very close.
Also not sure if anyone mentioned this, it is also good to visit even younger ones too because mentally they're fragile.
 
The only person tough to visit is my other uncle who lives in the middle of nowhere, like Log Cabin life. You can only reach him by phone. This guy jokes that he fights bears lol 😆 

Yeah, that is why a family bond needs to be strong. Some family members have differences but at the end of the day the bond needs to be there so there needs to be a compromise. 

Yeah, that is why a family bond needs to be strong. Some family members have differences but at the end of the day the bond needs to be there so there needs to be a compromise. 

He cultivates off the land because how he was raised, in his eyes it is better to not be tied down by things that majority of people are attached to, like debt. Even in my case there's Student Loan debt which isn't fun depending on how high you go up the Educational Food Chain. My Dad is similar in a way but he learned Trades at an early age so he eas able to manage, he prefers to live a simple life. Although he gives examples to me and others in my family of Bible Principles to apply, he was very clear on how debt and other things can push you down hard. Something I work to apply. I can't speak for my other peers tho because there's some who pay an insane amount of money for college, some of them can't pay it back and Interest creeps around d the corner. 

@TrueTomHarley 2 Years is a long time lol 😆. But yeah you'll have to ease back into it. Better to do so now because the pandemic isn't over and the states and county can change things up again. The good thing now is Zoom is essentially a great tool if anything like that were to take place as well as an available option to anyone even the elderly. 

I have been to your country and seen first hand the very very strong family bond and decency between you all..it made me sad….and when I came home I could see our arrogance and lack of love between all ….I love the respect you all seem to give automatically to the aged…..

I do this all the time. It is a Famila thing, well a Latino thing. But visiting tends to be more than just checking up on someone's health but to keep them company, even reaching out if need be. Since I am among the youngest of my family, we've been taught that we jot only respect and honor our elders but to visit and talk with them. My father has taught us this and encourage myself and my relatives to do the same because he wants the family and their inner circle to be well connected. He isn't a fan of how some Families in America operate. So regardless if someone is a brother or not, we make the effort to visit physically or over the phone even run errands if anything. In my case family and friends live in the same area very close.
Also not sure if anyone mentioned this, it is also good to visit even younger ones too because mentally they're fragile.
 
The only person tough to visit is my other uncle who lives in the middle of nowhere, like Log Cabin life. You can only reach him by phone. This guy jokes that he fights bears lol 😆 

I do this all the time. It is a Famila thing, well a Latino thing. But visiting tends to be more than just checking up on someone's health but to keep them company, even reaching out if need be. Since I am among the youngest of my family, we've been taught that we jot only respect and honor our elders but to visit and talk with them. My father has taught us this and encourage myself and my relatives to do the same because he wants the family and their inner circle to be well connected. He isn't a fan of how some Families in America operate. So regardless if someone is a brother or not, we make the effort to visit physically or over the phone even run errands if anything. In my case family and friends live in the same area very close.
Also not sure if anyone mentioned this, it is also good to visit even younger ones too because mentally they're fragile.
 
The only person tough to visit is my other uncle who lives in the middle of nowhere, like Log Cabin life. You can only reach him by phone. This guy jokes that he fights bears lol 😆 

There is actually more. I think we're at 8.7-8.8 now. A lot of people also tune into ou meetings via zoom as well. I think before 2020 we we're at 8.4 or something, I remember someone brought up pews research about it.
All in all, it is actually good to be back, but I don't think we can do door to door anytime soon.

There is actually more. I think we're at 8.7-8.8 now. A lot of people also tune into ou meetings via zoom as well. I think before 2020 we we're at 8.4 or something, I remember someone brought up pews research about it.
All in all, it is actually good to be back, but I don't think we can do door to door anytime soon.

I do this all the time. It is a Famila thing, well a Latino thing. But visiting tends to be more than just checking up on someone's health but to keep them company, even reaching out if need be. Since I am among the youngest of my family, we've been taught that we jot only respect and honor our elders but to visit and talk with them. My father has taught us this and encourage myself and my relatives to do the same because he wants the family and their inner circle to be well connected. He isn't a fan of how some Families in America operate. So regardless if someone is a brother or not, we make the effort to visit physically or over the phone even run errands if anything. In my case family and friends live in the same area very close.
Also not sure if anyone mentioned this, it is also good to visit even younger ones too because mentally they're fragile.
 
The only person tough to visit is my other uncle who lives in the middle of nowhere, like Log Cabin life. You can only reach him by phone. This guy jokes that he fights bears lol 😆 

@Equivocation Granted I had to go over it, this seems to be the case I pointed to. Concerning these verses Book of Acts concerning the passing of these gifts (Acts 8:18; 10:44-46) as is those not being able due to the not being among Apostles, although inspired (Acts 8:5-7, 14-17), for the Apostles had such power to do so. This is why in this case it is highly unlikely anyone after the Apostle Age has such abilities. Pertaining to your other thread, as to what I told @Pudgy, a recent example of such claim of abilities concerning visions was of that of a woman, who had been deceased for sometime, the MSM is now talking about, Vangeliya Pandeva Gushterova, otherwise known as Baba Vanga for short, also given a titled as Nostradamus of the Balkans.
For the claim of miraculous gifts after 100AD is a problem. So in this regard, a person, especially one in question, claiming to have several visions, as is the claim of inspiration by means of it, can lean towards being a False Prophet.

He's actually right, I just responded to him
The miraculous gifts of the holy spirit included were a temporary provision. The Bible foretold that, if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away with; if there are tongues, they will cease.—1 Corinthians 13:8.
Not only does the Watchtower knows this, but people who understood Paul. If one understood how these gifts were passed around in the days of the early Christian congregation, it would make a lot more sense. I made a point to that, and I believe both @Space Merchant and @Arauna said the same thing. @Patiently waiting for Truth was more focused on the anointed Christians who had the holy spirit, but the fact apostle John was throw into the mix, it changes everything. Seeing that these gifts came to an end in the final years of the first century, it makes sense it did pass on with apostle John. The gifts were not passed on to anyone else afterwards, even John's students, and there is no history or evidence of others who had these gifts afterwards into the second century. There were people who did claim to have visions, but never had this gifts at all, or as to what @Space Merchant said, Prophets who are inspired and those who are not.
Whether Space Merchant, or his actual name, Baptiste, says something in a long post or a short post, if you actually read what he said, you'd understand, but from what I am seeing, if someone is actually educated and knows his craft, he a threat apparently. I guess discernment is actually a good thing. But he is clever in making his posts to root out something to challenge.

He's actually right, I just responded to him
The miraculous gifts of the holy spirit included were a temporary provision. The Bible foretold that, if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away with; if there are tongues, they will cease.—1 Corinthians 13:8.
Not only does the Watchtower knows this, but people who understood Paul. If one understood how these gifts were passed around in the days of the early Christian congregation, it would make a lot more sense. I made a point to that, and I believe both @Space Merchant and @Arauna said the same thing. @Patiently waiting for Truth was more focused on the anointed Christians who had the holy spirit, but the fact apostle John was throw into the mix, it changes everything. Seeing that these gifts came to an end in the final years of the first century, it makes sense it did pass on with apostle John. The gifts were not passed on to anyone else afterwards, even John's students, and there is no history or evidence of others who had these gifts afterwards into the second century. There were people who did claim to have visions, but never had this gifts at all, or as to what @Space Merchant said, Prophets who are inspired and those who are not.
Whether Space Merchant, or his actual name, Baptiste, says something in a long post or a short post, if you actually read what he said, you'd understand, but from what I am seeing, if someone is actually educated and knows his craft, he a threat apparently. I guess discernment is actually a good thing. But he is clever in making his posts to root out something to challenge.

Well I mean you can't blame them tho lol, our generation is often times strange. But yeah Tiktok has a lot of propaganda going on too. I usually just watch it for friends, sports, and memes, check up on how others are doing, etc. but just to get around that other stuff is annoying. Speaking about memes, this is an example

I heard about the bribes. I also heard about crazy stuff about people being trapped in Ukraine, what both you and @JW Insider mention in the other thread, elsewhere I heard important Russian figures gone missing, a crazy time we are in, but what to expect from the current system of things.
My cousin's girlfriend's father almost went to his country to fight for it, almost. He does not believe the trapping thing is true but since the media and news is getting to his emotions, even if it is propaganda, I guarantee he is believing it as something true.

@Space Merchant As for women holding a leadership role, that is also true in respects to what the Bible says.
But yeah, the whole Unisex thing is modernized, so much so it spreads to other things outside of Christianity. Protestants and Baptist have done something similar. As for the media source you quoted, I see what you met about Feminism or any agenda with that kind of media because head coverings and women being ministers is not an issue. I guess this is why you made the response to the thread about pearl, for now I understand why you debated. even so I guess the idea also came from the word "Minister", where some people would assume leadership, a role of leadership. Going back to Feminism, I guess you can say it's woke? It is in most of the schools and colleges, not only by some students, but teachers as well.
But yes, in our faith, women of Jehovah’s Witnesses are preachers, or ministers, and there is a lot of women who partake in this activity. For not only men partake in sharing the good news, but women as well Psalm 68:11. Women who are Jehovah’s Witnesses follow the example set by women in the Bible. (Proverbs 31:10-31) Although they don’t assume a leadership role within the congregation, they have a full share in the public ministry, I believe you said this also to some effect. They also teach Bible principles to their children. (Proverbs 1:8) By their words and actions, Witness women work hard to be an influence for good.—Titus 2:3-5.
I also see that @Srecko Sostar assumed your mindset to be like the pastor you mentioned, but of course, you already know what to expect from the Cedar group. I know about Steven Anderson, and he is a.... How should I put it, quite extreme in which he actually advocated in the killing of homosexuals at one point and had prayed to God for the death of former President Obama. Hid mindset on women was a misapplication of Paul's words. He is known for telling women to shut up and be silent using Paul's words without knowing what Paul met. He also made Sexist remarks about women and a list of other things. That guy is crazy lol.

He's actually right, I just responded to him
The miraculous gifts of the holy spirit included were a temporary provision. The Bible foretold that, if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away with; if there are tongues, they will cease.—1 Corinthians 13:8.
Not only does the Watchtower knows this, but people who understood Paul. If one understood how these gifts were passed around in the days of the early Christian congregation, it would make a lot more sense. I made a point to that, and I believe both @Space Merchant and @Arauna said the same thing. @Patiently waiting for Truth was more focused on the anointed Christians who had the holy spirit, but the fact apostle John was throw into the mix, it changes everything. Seeing that these gifts came to an end in the final years of the first century, it makes sense it did pass on with apostle John. The gifts were not passed on to anyone else afterwards, even John's students, and there is no history or evidence of others who had these gifts afterwards into the second century. There were people who did claim to have visions, but never had this gifts at all, or as to what @Space Merchant said, Prophets who are inspired and those who are not.
Whether Space Merchant, or his actual name, Baptiste, says something in a long post or a short post, if you actually read what he said, you'd understand, but from what I am seeing, if someone is actually educated and knows his craft, he a threat apparently. I guess discernment is actually a good thing. But he is clever in making his posts to root out something to challenge.

@Space Merchant It may just be more than Methodist Faith tho. Weren't some Baptist ordinating women too? 🤔
Also since you linked that thread I made, I don't think people who say they have visions of certificates things to be true, especially when that vision comes from someone who thinks God oversees the torment of people in an Eternal Hellfire, makes no sense and that isn't something Jehovah is about.
@ApostaBabe Linda James We're not Extremist so I don't see how there's some kind of rage taking places in our halls although temporarily closed in some areas. Desperation possibly because of the stuff taking place in the world, not from brothers and sisters as a whole. In my case I'm perfectly fine, as well as our brothers and sisters at our hall.
@JW Insider You don't have to response but I know how you feel lol. Like someone talking about different fruits and vegetables and suddenly the conversation spirals into British Royal Navy ships and BOOM all of a sudden.... Cat videos lol 😆. 
A never ending story. 

Yikes looks like the dam cracked wide open in this thread. Was lurking so based on what I am seeing.... 😬😬😬
If one guy is right but a few people who's never been challenged react only to get beat down again. A more detailed look is from what is seen here some Former Jehovah’s Witnesses has never been challenged before and when it actually happens, it shows who is truthful and who isn't. Guess when the shoe is on the other foot it feels unpleasant and to that I will say for another thread that ended up like this.
What a way to go out.
@Pudgy Thank goodness for those comic strip because it helps a lot lol.

If Witness cannot provide at least one, preferably several verifiable prophecies that have been issued and fulfilled in modern day times, she is living in a pretend world.
 
And that’s the fact, Jack