Patiently waiting for Truth

Oh this is so funny, because the GB and JW org and Watchtower Soc have been adjusting the Bible interpretations to suit themselves since the very beginning of the Bible Students and CCJW. Armageddon was supposed to happen so many different times it's laughable. The last one was 1975, but oh dear it didn't happen. Then there is the adjusting ideas on the Blood issues. Then the adjusting ideas of This Generation. Also the adjusting of 'not all the remnant of anointed are the F&DS', but now it's only those 8 men in America. The only good thing in your little comedy show is where it says "We need to look in the bible", because God's word tells us not to put our trust in 'man' Psalm 146:3-5 King James Version (KJV) 3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. So no point in putting your trust in a GB or JW Org that have proved themselves false to the TRUTH. Quote The Bible should not be adjusted to make people feel more comfortable with their behavior. Tell that to your GB and Writing dept.

Oh dear yes my link above will not open. Sorry. The PDF on the end of Jack's original comment opens. Is anyone saying that is fake ?

Expert Opinion, Holly Folk, Massimo Introvigne, J. Gordon Melton. 1. We have been requested by the law firm of Mr. Shane Brady, representing the “Christian Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses in the Netherlands”, to examine the report “Sexual Abuse and Willingness to Report Within the Community of Jehovah’s Witnesses,” file:///C:/Users/ohnja utlerba/Downloads/TK+Bijlage+1+Expert+Opinion (6).pdf @James Thomas Rook Jr. So is the above fraud ? It's easily available online. Shane Brady is / was a Bethelite it seems as I've previously uploaded. So is it all lies ?

@James Thomas Rook Jr. You have a great, and realistic, sense of humour. However, the 1st century Christians were persecuted but i don't remember reading about them running off to foreign lands to hide. The scripture at Acts 5 v 29 comes to mind. In answer Peter and the other apostles said: “We must obey God as ruler rather than men. So, a question arises. Should these 'brothers and sisters' now run off and hide, or should they suffer the persecution ? It's a bit like what John Butler said about the GB when relating it to people that were destroyed by God in bible times. It is so easy to read about God killing people, such as at 2 Kings 19 v 35 New International VersionThat night the angel of the LORD went out and put to death a hundred and eighty-five thousand in the Assyrian camp. When the people got up the next morning--there were all the dead bodies! And we can read about how God killed the Egyptian Army, and about the Flood of Noah's day. BUT when it comes to NOW, it is a totally different matter. This is where TRUE FAITH comes alive. The faith in the resurrection. But true faith can only result from TRUTH, and unfortunately JW Org does not have TRUTH. As for me I would not suffer persecution for the sake of JW Org. It seems that many in Russia feel the same way.

And it seems you also have two heads

But is he serving God or an Organisation ?

Very subtle response on my comment @James Thomas Rook Jr.

Quote @Anna " If a tornado came tomorrow, and destroyed the new HQ in Warwick, what do you think most JWs would be saying? " I'd be more interested in what Ex JWs would be saying . But John Butler got D/fed from here for writing his thoughts.

I see we have a new Cowboy in the room. @Leander H. McNelly Must be a friend of @BillyTheKid47

I expect all the JWs on here will run and hide in the Closed / Private Group, all in shame of their leaders the GB and the Lawyers that lie on their behalf. I wish there were more JWs on here, to give their honest opinion of the mess the JW Org is in. Surely this is not how God wants to be served ?

I think buying the high ground is just common sense not guidance from God. After all they would have guidance from people that work in that trade, surveyors, land management workers, drainage workers, etc. Expert advice is needed even for laying foundations as the builder needs to know the types of soil they are digging in etc. We live on high ground and i would never live in a low area liable to flooding, it's just common sense. If God was going to guide anything it would be spiritual guidance to have a clean organisation, but no guidance there as can be clearly seen.

@Witness the video is (for me anyway) over the top Americanism unfortunately. BUT what he is saying is true. We can see how the first sentence of this report starts off. 1. Expert Opinion, Holly Folk, Massimo Introvigne, J. Gordon Melton. 1. We have been requested by the law firm of Mr. Shane Brady, representing the “Christian Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses in the Netherlands”, Shane Brady, it seems, is/ was in 2007, an "in house Witnesses lawyer and respected 'Bethelite'. and a senior religious leader.... that defended the blood issue in 2007. I can't quite understand how this Mr Brady can be be a full time JW living in Bethel / HQ in USA, and at the same time be part of this Law Firm below. https://wghow.ca/partners-associates.htm Shane H. Brady, J.D. Partner Shane received his law degree from Osgoode Law School (Toronto, Ontario) (later converted to J.D.) and was admitted to the Ontario Bar in 2001. He articled under the tutelage of our eminent founding lawyer, W. Glen How, O.C., Q.C., L.S.M. Few other mentors could have provided the breadth and depth of legal education. Shane has done trial and appellate work in civil, family, constitutional, and criminal law. Shane has advocated for mature minors' rights to make their own medical treatment decisions. He was the primary lawyer in a case from the provincial trial court to the Supreme Court of Canada, resulting in the seminal decision of the Supreme Court of Canada in AC v Manitoba (Director of Child and Family Services), 2009 SCC 30, [2009] 2 SCR 181. Currently Shane specializes in international human rights work in the European Court of Human Rights, the Court of Justice of the European Union, and the United Nations Human Rights Committee, representing clients in both European and post-Soviet countries. So is he only representing JWs ? So it was this Mr Brady, JW leader, Lawyer, currently specialising in human rights, that hired the EXPERT OPINION report, using a man, Massimo Introvigne that writes about satanism and From 2008 to 2016 he has served as vice-president of the Catholic movement Alleanza Cattolica Massimo Introvigne is also known to :- he advocates doctrinaire positions that favour groups like Scientology. Sorry the writing is a mess, it's grabbing quote that don't want to fit together. But, oh dear, the GB and their lawyers seem to have a lot to answer for. I honestly wonder how God and Christ feel about it all. What is Jesus feeling right now, that he actually died for this mess ?

@Anna I'll simply say that you know that what you said was wrong and that I pointed it out and you therefore didn't like it. I've no need to continue here on this matter. I could just mention how God protected Noah and his family, protected the Israelite Nation at the Read sea ............... but you are set in your ways it seems so no matter......

But they can accuse men and women of fornication without any witnesses.

The JW Org / Watchtower Soc' / GB are No part of the world ? They seem to be digging themselves deeper into the world every day. Obviously NOT guided by God's holy spirit. The plot thickens, but they cannot have God's approval at all, on this and many other matters. Is Almighty God bringing it all to a head ? Is Jesus Christ showing the world how wicked the GB and it's Org are ? Come on JWs lets hear your defence of this one

The scores of branch office buildings, hundreds of Assembly Halls, and tens of thousands of Kingdom Halls around the world provide tangible proof that God’s Kingdom is real and is now ruling." The GB and JW congregants need to see physical things, because they have no real faith in God, Christ or holy spirit. They are physical 'men'. 1 Corinthians 2 v 14 (NWT.) " But a physical man does not accept the things of the spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot get to know them, because they are examined spiritually. " How very true this is. So the GB & Co replace it with physical things. Large buildings, Offices, books, magazines, 'carts', and the buying and selling of real estate. Jesus didn't even have a 'place to lay his head'. Luke 9 v 58 But Jesus said to him: “Foxes have dens and birds of heaven have nests, but the Son of man has nowhere to lay down his head.

@Srecko Sostar The GB show up their own stupidity more and more each day. They certainly show that they do NOT have the guidance of God's holy spirit. @Anna said "In other words; Satan, by his action, deprived all humans of God's protective power when it comes to the elements, and over other things too." Do you really know how stupid that sounds ? Have you really though it through ? You are saying that Satan had / has control of God. Truth is that God decides who He will protect and when. My oh my, JWs get worse.

It's a way of controlling people. And the monthly reports are proof of the control that the GB etc, have over the congregants. Quite funny though that the message preached this year may be seen as 'old light' and a different message preached next year.

Thank you, i didn't know that. When i watch films on Netflix I always need the subtitles. Even with hearing aids I cannot hear properly. I just get louder sounds that i cannot understand ..

It does seem to me that JWs have a need to be physical people. Always looking for physical signs. There is such a need in some JWs for 'Armageddon to happen 'now'. Relax JWs, God will decide when HE Is ready. People have been dying in great numbers for many years. There could be many more years yet.

Well that was fun, thank you @Srecko Sostar .

I thought any amount, above one months needs for a congregation, had to be sent to HQ in their own country. @Srecko Sostar Thank you for the update. I can't watch the video as my hearing is poor and I can never understand what people are saying, but the written summery is good.

NWT Matt 28 v 19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations,o baptizing themp in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, JW, Kingdom Interlinear Translation πορευθέντεςhaving gone your wayοὖνthereforeμαθητεύσατεmake disciples ofπάνταallτὰtheἔθνη,nations,βαπτίζοντεςbaptizingαὐτοὺςthem [persons]εἰςintoτὸtheὄνομαnameτοῦof theπατρὸςFatherκαὶandτοῦof theυἱοῦSonκαὶandτοῦof theἁγίουholyπνεύματος,spirit, εἰςinto = INTO. Does this have a different meaning than in ? The Interlinear says baptising them INTO the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit. Now JW Org does not do this. It baptises people INTO the JW Org. When Jesus spoke those words, would he have meant INTO, because at that time the ones being baptised would have been of the Anointed. They would have been baptised INTO a promise from Almighty God. A special relationship. If that is the actual picture for the Year Text then it is very sad. It is misrepresentation of God and Christ, by cutting short the real words Jesus spoke. And please tell me why JW Org does not use those original words ? Thank you.

Back on the 1914 issue again then. Nothing new here....

Quote @Anna " It's evident though that the reason they were discussing politics was not because they somehow wanted to be a part of the world as @4Jah2me insinuates, " Quote @JW Insider " Russell wrote a letter to the U.S. President to tell him that Filipinos are lazy and the Japanese are hardworking. " Um, no part of the world ? Quote @TrueTomHarley Paul commented how “this witness is true” and he was referring to the prophet among them who wrote that Cretans were “always liars, injurious wild beasts, idle gluttons.” Can you please quote the scripture where Paul said that and more information about the 'prophet and his quote. Sounds interesting but without quotes it could be untrue.