Patiently waiting for Truth

13 hours ago, BroRando said:

As the Last Days come to their end, there is no escaping for your kind.  But you are already melting.  Look! Jehovah has struck his oppossers!

 

Zechariah 14:12

“And this is the scourge with which Jehovah will scourge all the peoples who wage war against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot away while they stand on their feet, their eyes will rot away in their sockets, and their tongues will rot away in their mouths.

Psalm 37:13

But Jehovah will laugh at him, For He knows that his day will come.

Billy Rambo you are such a fake .  But Jesus will judge you and Jesus will judge me. I would think that He is not happy with either of us. 

58 minutes ago, xero said:

No one cares what apostates have to say, even people who don't like JW's despise apostates.

This brings us back to 'What is an Apostate' ? 

1 hour ago, BroRando said:

Now that the whole fourm knows that you salnder and denounce Jehovah. They also know you denounce Jesus as your Lord and Savior because his Name gives witness to his God and Father meaning, 'Jehovah is Salvation'.  

Why are you quotng scripture from the Book of John?  John has Jehovah's Name in it too you Big Fake!

JOHN

[English equivalent of Jehohanan, meaning “Jehovah Has Shown Favor; Jehovah Has Been Gracious”].

Keep it up Billy the Kid. You are good for a laugh. 

Just now, BroRando said:

Slander away you counterfeit.  She's also denounces Jesus, since Jesus means 'Jehovah is Salvation".  

Rambo you are so full of hate and deciet. You cannot be a JW, you must be the counterfeit.

And if you were a true servant of Almight God you would not have the attitude that you have either.

So it seems you do not love God, and it seems you are not a JW. You are a counterfeit on two counts. 

In fact on three counts because you use many AKA's to try to confuse people. Add that to your counterfeit dates and false predictions. You are a complete FRAUD.  Have a wonderful day.  

^{NWT. Psalm 90 : 10}  The span of our life is 70 years, Or 80  if one is especially strong. But they are filled with trouble and sorrow; They quickly pass by, and away we fly.

I like this scripture. I'm 72, so maybe I'm just a little bit strong .  

On 11/24/2021 at 10:37 AM, Arauna said:

Sly way to get away with it.  What I saw above assured me of it!

Your so called proof has now been dispoven. Why join Billy the Kid aka Rambo ?  I thought you were genuine, but he definitely isn't 

Oh dear  I really am glad I live in England. Well live in a nice quiet part of it. 

I think 27 people died at sea yesterday, trying to get to England. It's very sad if true, but I don't get involved in the right or wrong of it. Hopefully they will get a resurrection in the 'new world'. That, to me, is what matters concerning them. 

One of my points being that we cannot expect the 'world' to be a fair, nice, peaceful, loving, kind place anymore.  I trust no one until I have reason to trust them.  Even then I trust them only a little. 

However, rightly ot wrongly, I did expect the JW Org (as it's supposed to be no part of this world, and the one true religion) to be those things that i didn't expect the world to be. 

1 hour ago, TrueTomHarley said:

The only thing we really have a right to in this system of things is old age and death

I like this, it's direct and honest. I've got the old age bit and death is creeping up slowly.   But knowing truth, death is not frightening. 

3 hours ago, NoisySrecko said:

"No one should live in fear of being stopped whenever he leaves his home to go about the activities of daily life.

We used to get stopped and searched, late at night in the 1970's. There were all night cafe's that we would frequent and we would walk around town just for something to do at probably 2am. The local Police were quite polite and nice about it though. However I don't think the English Police are as nice now. Times change and this old systen just gets worse. 

Wow you guys really are 'part of this world'. It's probably because you are mostly Amarican though  

Seriously. Tom said he was 'arguing' with some one over that court case ??? Did i quote you right tom ? were you really arguing about a worldly court case ? 

There must have been similar things happening when Jesus was on Earth, but i don't think He would get involved. 

11 minutes ago, Arauna said:

You know all this - I am sure

I am a very 'simple' man of very basic upbringing. I only know English. Having gone through a bad time in my senior school years I just want to leave school and get a basic job. I have remained what i call working class, doing basic jobs and not needing to improve my educaton level. So I will probably continue to be 'not sure' of how YHWH should be written or pronounced. You see Arauna, if I do differently then what am i doing ? I am trusting 'men'. 

18 minutes ago, Arauna said:

Jehovah knows we  are talking about him.

19 minutes ago, Arauna said:

 So to use a title like god is not a personal name.

I agree. But in the model prayer, Jesus did not use a personal name for God. 

The Watchtower (1982)

The Model Prayer

The Model Prayer “You must pray, then, this way: ‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth. Give us today our bread for this day; and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And do not bring us into temptation, but deliver us from the wicked one.’”

I agree Jesus said "let your name be santified" but that brings me back to YHWH. 

31 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

Typical Big Tech Solider, for good reason you can be called that and another Piker.

In the whole of that comment you have done exacly what i said you do. You have grouped me with others. You have slandered my name by comparing me with others and calling me names. 

BUT you still think you are right, and you still think you are wise  FOOL ! That is what you are. 

Look at the silly names you call me. But i am an individual, and always will be.

THAT is what you and others dont like about me.  I AM NOT PART OF A GROUP, I am not 'left or right'. 

37 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

For an Ex Jehovah's Witnesses, you are no different from the Magic Hands guy from London, or that of a Leftist. To quote Mr. Kel, he made claim that most former Jehovah's Witnesses who fall into apostasy are often to ones heavily misguided, and Kel himself is quite neutral with JWs. I believe you hit that narrative.

Look at this rubbish you write SM.  All comparisons, all accusations. All lies. FOOL! 

40 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

You speak of misguidance, yet you think a subnet of the Internet supersedes real life.

What are you talking about here ?

42 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

, even you confused real life with social media, a problem.

Social media has become part of real life. It's no different than using a telephone. Yes I still have a landline / home phone. It sit on my desk. Yes I'm old school. 

I used Facebook today to contact the 'Council', that is the government department that own the house i live in. 

I used Facebook to contact my Bank a couple of days ago. 

I use Facebook because businesses use it. I use Facebook because my family use it.  

Facebook is a tool to use sensibly. You are a fool if you do not know that. 

Sorry SM but Facebook has become part of real life, just like using a telephone. 

So it seems that SM is against even watching world events on MSM. He is against being able to quickly see countries that have floods, volcanos, eathquakes, wars, et al. 

Perhaps SM wants to control people's minds. Perhaps he think he is the only one that has true information. 

For everyone that mentions any world news, it seesm SM know more or better. SM is a Truther. Is it only them that know truth ?  I don't think so SM. 

I'm not interested in 'left' or 'right' wing. I'm not interested in what people want to call other people or compare other people to. It just seems so childish that you have to A, group people together, B, compare people to villians. 

Can you not just see each person as an individual ?  Each of us here. Do you need to compare us to others ? 

I am an individual. I have no interest in politics. I am not right or left wing. I do not support any type of wordly government.

But i know you will continue to compare me to others, because it seems that is all you can do. 

21 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

He can't see the forests for it's trees.

You are a fool SM, but unfortunately you seem to be misguiding a younger fool too. 

There is a massive difference between JW Org, and, Facebook. 

Yes they both have CSA. Yes they both try to hide the CSA. But Facebook is just a tool, just like a telephone. It is a means of communication. Would you ban all telephones ? Pedophiles probably comunicate by mobile / cell phone. 

But unfortunately you are so proud, so head strong that you need to be right. So if you think you are right, be happy with that. But you are still a fool. 

I will continue to use Facebook for it's good points. Whereas I don't know any good points about JW org. 

It is still quite funny that you say you are not a JW.  You seem to love them so much.  How can you love an organisation that promotes CSA by hiding Pedophiles in it ? 

22 hours ago, Arauna said:

These prove that the name is pronounced Yehovah! 

So why don't you use Yehovah then ? 

10 minutes ago, BroRando said:

She is telling the untruth, she rejects the Name of Jesus and claim his name is made up because it means 'Jehovah is Salvation'.

Billy rambo. I think you are more inteligent than you are showing here. You are burbling again Billy.

A lot of what you write is serious stuff, but this is just dribble.  I'll just quote you here. 

52 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

  22 hours ago, BroRando said:

Then stop speaking ENGLISH and speak Hebrew.

Yeshua means "Yahweh is Salvation"   Get over it you big fake.

You wrote these words. Are you now denying them ? 

Billythe Kid @BroRando You make yourself look more stupid by each of your comments. 

19 hours ago, Peter Carroll said:

thankfully we can see the few  fakes on here  and they are begining to stand out more and more as the time comes closer for their total destruction ,and they will become those i will gladly laugh at for their stupidity, as it was for satan trying to take on the creator ,its a fight pwft will easily lose in due time ,as for now we continue to put up with them

Most people on here are trying to serve Almight God through Jesus Christ, in the best way they can. My hope is that Jesus, who now has 'all authority', will read the hearts of everyone here, and He will give guidance to those He feels deserve it.  My fight is against all forms of wickedness, not only the Watchtower/JW Org. So I hope that Jesus Christ will  read my heart, and because of that I am prepared to take whatever consequences come my way. 

3 hours ago, xero said:

I applaud that. I don't applaud the chronic personal sniping and whining. That don't get it done.

You are right. I do need a better direction. I need to spend less time online and more time reading the Scriptures and in prayer. 

13 hours ago, BroRando said:

Denying Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior does not beget salvation.  Here are a few scriptures about the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. (1 Peter 1:3

You are taking nonsesse because all those scriptures you have quoted were written long before that fake name was invented. Anyone could put a false name in place of YHWH, and that is just what the Watchtower / JW Org has done. You use a false name to insult Almighty God. 

21 hours ago, BroRando said:

Then stop speaking ENGLISH and speak Hebrew.

Yeshua means "Yahweh is Salvation"   Get over it you big fake.

And there you have it. You have admitted that it is Yahweh not Jehovah.  Although even Yahweh might not be correct, but at least it uses the correct letters. 

14 minutes ago, BroRando said:

It's so obvious you're an impostor and a fake.  Jesus own name referrs to Jehovah.  Guess she never beleived in Jesus either, since his name means 'Jehovah is Salvation'  (Exodus 23:20-21, Philippians 2:9-11)

But Jesus' real name is Yeshua. So no J.  

Jesus (IPA: /ˈdʒiːzəs/) is a masculine given name derived from the name IESVS in Classical Latin, Iēsous (Greek: Ἰησοῦς), the Greek form of the Hebrew and Aramaic name Yeshua or Y'shua (Hebrew: ישוע‎). As its roots lie in the name Yeshua/Y'shua,

1 hour ago, Arauna said:

On 11/20/2021 at 3:03 PM, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Elders will still pretend you were disfellowshipped 

To twist it like that and use those words!  .

One of the longest serving Elders in my ex-congregation, phoned my wife and told her, that I had been disfellowshipped. 

I was sat right next to my wife at the time.  But my wife and a couple of 'brothers' know the truth about it all. 

I am now in the process of requesting all my records from my ex-congregation. I'm using the Data Protecion Act, which is the legal way to do it here in England. I have received an email from another Elder to tell me that my request is being delt with and that I should 'hear from them shortly'.  It would be nice to read what they have put on my records, and even nicer to have proof that i was not d/fed.  However if i receive information from them that says I was d/fed I would consider that to be slander. 

By the way, I would imagine that every JW or ex-JW has broken many bible principles. We are all imperfect. 

52 minutes ago, BroRando said:

This 'timed event' represents the end of the system of things as we know it.

Wow 2055 another 'date'. What happened to 2034 ? Oh yes it's still in there somewhere. 

54 minutes ago, BroRando said:

The weeds of apostate christians who have left our brother will have all died the death befroe 2055.

but you've just said 

55 minutes ago, BroRando said:

So what are the mountains and the rocks that the animalistic crowd wants to hide inside of in order to escape the impending destruction? The majority of mankind will seek refuge in human organizations, societies, financial institutions, and academia, that are likened to “the rocks of the mountains

The Watchtower (society) and JW Org / CCJW are only human organizations.

Wake up Billy, you are just part of a human organsation. An org that will not exist at Armageddon. 

Russia has given an example of what it can do to the Watchtower / JW Org. Do you not think that the American government will desroy Warwick and Ramapo at some time ????? 

1 hour ago, BroRando said:

It's the faith you exercise beforehand by going to the Kingdom Hall

You need a building to give you faith ?  No billy it goes much deeper than that. 

1 hour ago, BroRando said:

"Outside are the dogs and those who practice spiritism and those who are sexually immoral and the murderers and the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices lying. (Rev 22:15)

You use this scripture but so could any other so called Christian religion. Because the sexual immorality inside JW Org has been proven and is still being proven. And serving the GB and the Watchtower Soc' / JW Org proves idolatry of JWs. And as for lying, so much proof has been given in courtrooms about Elders lying. And it seems clear that the GB continue to lie about the CSA database. 

1 hour ago, BroRando said:

Spiritually speaking, God’s people will stand out as unique,

Yes they will. But they will not be JWs at that time. 

Billy, Every word you have written in your comment above can be used against you and against the JW Org. 

1 hour ago, Arauna said:

No disrespect, they will find new ways. There will be a break and then new attacks will start. Satan leaves and then comes back. 

But at least it might be good for some JWs at this time. 

7 hours ago, xero said:

But...we're all going to miss the mark, including me and that's to be expected too. Just keep getting up and trying again.

Yes, but some of us get up and try in a different way to serve God through Christ. 

8 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

My initial response is to begrudge any video inserted in a comment. It’s generational, ‘talkin bout my generation,’ and doesn’t apply to younger people, who are used to them.

I ask, How much time is demanded? 2 minutes? or 2 hours? I have to click to find out. At least when JWI lays 30 pages on you, there they are. You can see at a glance that they are thirty pages.

I agree with you on this. If videos are aimed at me then the commenter has wasted their time as I don't watch the videos.

If a person cannot be bothered to put their thoughts into their own words then why should I bother to take note of a video.

8 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

PSomH has had plenty of CSA calamity (before he became a JW, and assuming he is Butler, as many have said). Xero might not know this, as Butler revealed this long ago. Some experiences are so horrific that they warp your judgment forever more.

 CSA = yes... Butler = yes.    warp your judgement = possibly but not mine  

Empathy, concern, love, worry, for others, yes. But to me that is the Christian way. 

Expectations of something better from an Organisation that says it is the only true way of serving God. 

8 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

There are no bad things happening anywhere.

Just watching MSN news online is depressingly upsetting. So many countries, so many promlems, so much suffering and death. Yes it proves that we need God / Christ to interviene soon. 

8 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Drudge Report

American ? I'll have to look into this one. It means nothing to an Englishman. 

7 hours ago, xero said:

I don't know the governing body personally, as individuals, but I have respect for them, but at the same time, I recognize they are ordinary humans being used in extraordinary ways, but I don't look at them as being in control because I don't believe they are.

You are entitled to your opinion that the GB are 'being used in extraodinary ways'. But the question is then, who is the GB being used by ?  

Quote "but I don't look at them as being in control because I don't believe they are."... So who authorises the 'Shepherding the Flock' book then ?  That is the rule book from the GB. Who writes the rules for baptism, the many many questions ?  Who decides what is a disfellowshipping offence and what is just a reproval ?  Who gives appoval for  the ministry slips / reports ?  Who decided that the Kingdom Halls no longer belong to the congregations ? Who decided that all money be certralised and that Kingdom Hall Congregations would not keep their own money ?  

And who is deciding not to release the full database of CSA accusations to the ' Superior Authorites ? 

The GB has total control. That is why they are called the Governing Body, because they govern / rule over the whole congregation earthwide.