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https://berean.bible/ Berean Study Bible.
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14 hours ago, Space Merchant said:
To be fair LORD in all caps refers to the God of Israel -
I now tend to use the BSB, Berean Study Bible, which I find much easier to read and get the sense of.
I'm not saying it is a better Bible but it certainly is better for me to study than the NWT.
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14 hours ago, Space Merchant said:
That being said, when it comes to Data, passing of Data, it can prove to be useful or destructive leaving some type of scar regardless of which direction it takes.
Yes and because of such I can understand people wanting to have their own personal information.
As an example, I left the JW Org of my own choice, but since then an Elder has phoned my wife and told her that I was disfellowshipped. Now I told those Elders the reasons I was leaving, so I had not been removed by them. However that Elder said I had been disfellowshipped. So, what do they hold on record about me ? Do they have truth, that i left, or do they have a lie, that i was disfellowshipped ?
Hence I can understand why Ex-JWs would want their personal records. I would now like to have my records from my ex-congregation.
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13 hours ago, BroRando said:
Those whom Jesus was witnessing against were ones without holy spirit.... but he stated, whoever speaks against the holy spirit...
Matthew 12:32
For example, whoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him, no, not in this system of things nor in that to come.
And who was Jesus speaking to ? Please remember that Jesus came to the 'Lost tribe of the House of Israel'.
Matthew 15 : 24 He answered: “I was not sent to anyone except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
The Nation of Israel was under covenant to Almighty God. They belonged to God.
And do you know why Jesus spoke those words. I have given the answer above.
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16 hours ago, Space Merchant said:
People can still sin against the holy spirit, chosen or not.
Jesus gave this warning to those under opposition, for he said that one who sinned against the Holy Spirit would not be forgiven in the current day and or things to come.
A person whom God judged as having sinned against the spirit in would therefore not be in the book of life, no hope for a resurrection, since his sins would never be forgiven.
This is why the best option is to be neutral with some mainly due to the fact of root origin from then to now.
That being said, it is a line between forgivable sin and unforgiveable sin, and not being placed in front of the white throne in regards to judgement.
Mark 3 from : 28, Jesus said.
Truly I say to you that all things will be forgiven the sons of men, no matter what sins they commit and what blasphemies they speak. 29 But whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit has no forgiveness forever but is guilty of everlasting sin.” 30 He said this because they were saying: “He has an unclean spirit.”
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On 9/25/2021 at 6:19 AM, BroRando said:
You are one and done... sorry... Not Sorry! 😄
Matthew 12:32
For example, whoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him, no, not in this system of things nor in that to come.
As I'm not Anointed I don't think I can sin against the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is given as a gift from God, to those of whom God wishes to be Anointed. Each of them will be part of the Body and Bride of Christ. I am not a chosen one.
I never speak against Almighty God or Jesus Christ, or the Holy Spirit.
The Watchtower / JW Org are just physical organsations, so anyone may speak against them or for them.
But you oh man, what do you gain in serving Satan ?
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On 9/26/2021 at 8:39 AM, Arauna said:
Logical thinking is not your forte - that is why you always just attach in a blind fashion - which is the crux of your MO. False assumptions and baseless blanket attacks.
If you really feel this way about me then so be it. It might help if you consider also the 'blanket attacks' against Ex-JWs, and that anyone who leaves the JW Org is completely shunned, even by close family. So it seems to be a two way action.
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On 9/26/2021 at 8:35 AM, Arauna said:
I did not say you stand against God. I said against Jehovah. .... there is a difference you know!
So now you are saying that 'Jehovah' is not Almighty God. This becomes interesting.
I hope you note that I did use a capital 'G' for God, which means Almighty God, not any false god.
But all we are doing here is wasting space on ths forum, and I presume someone pays for this space.
So, may you have peace.
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14 hours ago, BroRando said:
Patiently is a woman.
Most people on here know exactly who I am. Why are you pretending that you do not know ?
Never mind Billy, you are serving Satan well, enjoy it whilst you can.
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15 hours ago, Arauna said:
Your hardline stance against Jehovah does not seem to credit you as capable of deep love.
What a wicked accusation, to say that I stand against God. I love Almighty God and His son Jesus Christ.
But your problem is clearly seen here. You do not know the difference between Almighty God, and, the Watchtower / JW Org. Unfortunately for you it shows where your loyalty lies. It would appear that your love is for the JW Org, not for God or Christ.
It brings us back to this; JWs have been brainwashed into thinking that a person can only be a True Christian if that person is a JW. This is GB teachings. Back to the old record of : "Only JWs will be saved at Armageddon", and JWs believe it.
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So many different ideas from different JWs on here. It's kinda sad really.
But soon there will be a True Anointed remnant that speak truth from God through Christ. Only by inspiration from God's Holy Spirit will truth be spoken.
Zechariah 8:23
Berean Study Bible
This is what the LORD of Hosts says: “In those days ten men from the nations of every tongue will tightly grasp the robe of a Jew, saying, ‘Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.’ ”So, there will come a time when people seeking truth will know who this spiritual JEW is.
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Rambo, Satan most certainly has you firmly in his grip.
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On 9/25/2021 at 6:07 AM, BroRando said:
Prove it. That will simply expose you as a willfull liar. (Revelation 22:15) Down down down.... in a ring of fire, she burns burns burns, flames keep getting higher..... 😀
And you pretend to be a JW
Oh billy the kid you are sooooooooo strange
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On 9/25/2021 at 6:32 AM, Arauna said:On 9/25/2021 at 4:35 AM, Patiently waiting for Truth said:
Being a victim myself gives me empathy for other victims
I knew you were playing that card, I do not like to be manipulated by a viper.
Please explain in a Christian way, what 'card' you think I am playing.
How is it wrong for one victim to have empathy for other victims ?
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13 hours ago, BroRando said:
She Can't! She is working for the guy on the other side of the street. The Devil... she is the daughter of lies... she's dieseased... don't get too close to her... 😈
Witnes is not a JW either... he doesn't even like to mention JEHVOAH.. another one who bites the dust as he drifts off to Gehenna..
Remember... Patiently calls it (Hellfire)
It was you that called it hell fire Rambo, not me. You told me that i would burn and suffer.. Now you twist things and tell lies. This seems to be getting worse with JWs here.
It was me that reminded you that 'the dead are conscious of nothing at all'.
Satan uses you well.
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13 hours ago, BroRando said:
You can't see what I SEE because it takes Faith.
Dream on Rambo. Satan uses you well
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13 hours ago, Arauna said:
Who do you blame for that? The GB? - most probable you will..... someone has to suffer because of what happened to you, HEH? Your own poison is worse than the abuse you suffered. You will never be healed from what happened to you because of your poison. You were a victim .... but remain one......because you bring pain to other innocent people....
Twisting things to suit your own purpose shows your dishonesty. You were talking about control, hence i gave you facts about control. Now you twist it to pretend that i blame the GB. A very stupid comment from you and a total lack of feeling. But that it what it takes to be a JW isn't it ? Lack of true feelings for others.
Being a victim myself gives me empathy for other victims. I can understand the trauma, hence I have feelings for victims of CSA in the JW Org. Because the children did not ask to be part of that Org and those children trusted the Elders and others in those congregations. But those children were abused by the very people they trusted. And it is made worse because nobody cares.
Your very comment above shows the heart of a JW.
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13 hours ago, JW Insider said:
The second thing is that it shows that JWs don't necessarily worship or blindly follow the GB and/or the Organization,
My comment here will be totally off topic but :-
This is one reason I could not be a JW now. If by studying God's word we put more faith in that Word, rather than the words of men, then how could a true Christian distribute the words of men above God's Word ? How can JWs distribute the Watchtower mags and other literature which gives information which contradicts God written Word ?
JWI, I don't expect a sensible answer to this
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On 9/23/2021 at 2:27 PM, Arauna said:
Now compare that to the miracle of Jehovahs people unitedly and in bonds of love are only promoting His ruling Kingdom. ..... while the whole world is in a state of growing violence, disunity and anarchy.
Arauna, JWs here on this forum are not in unity, imagine the disunity earth wide. Mr Rando and Sower of Seed both differ from each other and from the Watchtower / GB teachings, but they both seem to be JWs.
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16 hours ago, JW Insider said:
Then you appear to disagree with the Watchtower publications on this point, where the 1,335 days end in the "happy" year: 1926.
It is very sad to see how JWs on here disagree with each other and disagree with the Leaders of the Watchtower / JW Org.
Mr Rando and Sower of Seed are here supposedly representing the JW Org, whilst both contradicting Watchtower / GB teachings.
What are visitors to this forum supposed to think ? It doesn't need Ex-JWs or Anti-JWs to discredit the unity of the JW Org. JWs themselves are doing it right here.
If this is a small example of the disunity in the JW Org Earthwide, then maybe the Org will disband completely one day. Maybe the judging and cleaning up has started already.
It certainly gives me more faith in a True Anointed being brought forward to guide God's servants through Christ.
Reading the different viewpoints on this forum makes it clear that humans alone cannot do it.
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Rambo sounds more immature or mentally ill, each day. I do wonder what meds he's taking.
Why doesn't the Society translate and provide the Russian Court Transcripts for us?
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Um, a bit of a giveaway Tom. Sorry James.