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On 7/8/2021 at 10:34 AM, ApostaBabe Linda James said:
Now if you are willing help me with this "bantering" thing, just know that for all of my life, I have never been able to tap into that place of realizing or knowing the difference between bantering ( which = fun ) and bullying. ( which = abusive. 😥 a tearing away at one's soul )
Tom is a bully to those that 'frighten him' when they can prove how wrong the GB / Watchtower / JW Org, have been or are being. Tom hates that wall of deceit (that the GB build) being torn down. Arauna is the same.
( JWs seem to treat victims of CSA as just collateral damage, and JWs just push those victims to one side in their minds. )
( JWs also don't like 'true Truth' about the Org being known. Truth about misuse of scripture and misuse of authority. )
Tom is quite insulting for a man that thinks he is a Christian, and he doesn't offer much in a spiritual way.
He is honest enough though, to admit that he uses this blog to gain material for his 'books'. Books which i think he is now trying to sell. So I've stopped taking him seriously as a contributor to the forum and now see him as a sort of leech just grabbing what he can for himself.
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Ok guys n girls, I'll leave this one for you. It's not my scene man
Ya dig
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13 hours ago, Pudgy said:
The Good part is Caleb and Sophia, and their Family do not need to eat, drink, or breathe, and are OK until plate tectonics subducts them.
They of course have lumps on their heads the size of bananas, circled by a rotating disk of canaries and stars .... not unlike a halo.
James, I think you are unwell. We know you have been through a tough time lately but, well I think you need some help.
On 7/7/2021 at 11:00 AM, Pudgy said:The only survivor, an un-named member of the Society's Governing Body
On 7/7/2021 at 11:00 AM, Pudgy said:suffered cuts from broken glass bottles he was carrying in his pockets.
A reference to a GB member being filmed in a supermarket buying bottles of booze.
Oh dear. Sorry James it's not even that funny.
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13 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:
You’re free to hang out with others who think as you do. Enjoy their company.
He is, we are, and it's fun
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It's quite funny what lies people tell themselves in order to have a clear conscience about being a JW.
And it's even funnier when they write it in such a sly way that it makes honest hearted people look to be the villains.
But as Elders or even Ex Elders I suppose it's their job to hide truth and to make excuses for the dishonest and immoral JW org / Watchtower Soc / GB
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On 7/7/2021 at 5:30 PM, Arauna said:
I do not have an answer for hate-OCD - it seems to be a mental condition for which there is no cure. People have hurt the Spirit of Jehovah too much...... I will not even try to answer or help.
WE agree then that people have 'hurt' Almighty God by working against the Holy Spirit.
The ones that did so are the ones that told the Anointed 'not to gather together for prayer or Bible study' Those ones also told the Anointed that the Anointed would be 'working against the Holy Spirit'.
Those ones also say they are the F&DS and they falsely boast that God and Christ trust them.
Yes, it quite to clear to see who have insulted Almighty God and Jesus Christ. It is your GB and their helpers.
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20 hours ago, ApostaBabe Linda James said:
Do you think that the unnamed Governing Body member at the seen of the sinkhole was possibly Anthony Morris the Third. Oh my.... I shudder at the thought.
You do realise that it's a joke ? Sick yes but a joke.
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16 hours ago, xero said:
(I've found out from my wife that this can really piss people off)
Once again we see a good Christian attitude from a JW.
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16 hours ago, Arauna said:
I have been on this forum much longer than you. I recognize hate-OCD when I see it. All apostates have it and I usually do not even answer them. So I think I will ignore you from now on. ......
That's a lot of words just to admit that you don't have an answer.
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13 hours ago, Arauna said:
Rather get a job where one does not need this education
BUT, your GB and other Leaders will happily rely on Educated people when it comes to :-
Lawyers in court.
Building Warwick and buying and building Ramapo.
And where did all the computer knowledge come from, and all the filming / video technique ?
All of the above needed legal advice, technical advice, safety inspections et al.
Most of that comes from higher education, it is not learnt in the normal schooling of youngsters, and it is not by learnt online courses.
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16 hours ago, Arauna said:
And when this is completely restored we will all be one happy family - love each other and love jehovah they way he created us to be!
You write a massive STATEMENT pretending that YOU have this special knowledge but you condemn @Witness when she writes anything. Hypocrisy at it's best.
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16 hours ago, Arauna said:
The anointed do subject themselves to others willingly and take responsibility in a humble spirit because they understand that one human cannot rule over another more than anyone else! We all must honor each other! The dissatisfied ones are usually those who are jealous... or want more for themselves than Jehovah is willing to give!
The theme of the bible is this: humans cannot rule over themselves and decide their own good and bad. Each person is a subject of Jehovah - not of any other person! our freedom from our own weaknesses and desires come from putting Jehovah first in our lives! if we lose that wish to put jehovah first we can become corrupt and could lose everlasting life if this attitude becomes a daily practice.
because they understand that one human cannot rule over another more than anyone else! WHAT A JOKE
Your GB rule over 8.5 million people, if not more. Your GB make up their own rules that JWs have to obey of be d/fed.
Your GB giver their interpretation of scripture (even though the GB are NOT inspired) and then ALL JWs have to believe what your GB say. Remember that your GB say "God and Christ trust the GB so JWs must trust the GB"
The way you write things it seems you would say that Jesus was just a dissatisfied Jew.
16 hours ago, Arauna said:Each person is a subject of Jehovah - not of any other person!
If that were so then Elders would not have the right to judge anyone or d/fed anyone.
And putting Almighty God first through Jesus Christ, DOES NOT MEAN BEING A JW.
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17 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:
the so-called "theocratic system of government" has the same effects and shortcomings as the best system man has found and called the "democratic system of government."
Srecko, I think a TRUE theocratic system inspired by Holy Spirit, would not have the shortcomings and problems that the W/t / JW Org has. But of course it would suffer serious persecution from outside forces.
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18 hours ago, Thinking said:
.they would recognise this and be obedient to this earthly and scriptural laid out arrangement…and conduct in any congregation.
So you too would have the Anointed in subjection to the Elders.
It seems you would have had Jesus in subjection to the Jewish religious leaders then. After all it was the scriptural thing of the day.
If Almighty God has anointed ladies, He must have good reason for doing so. And no Anointed ones should be in subjection to the non-anointed, non-spirit guided Elders.
I'm not saying Anointed ladies should take the lead, but I'm saying that ALL Anointed ones are more important to God and Christ than any 'earthly' Elder or any of the 'earthly' Leaders of the JW Org.
Please remember it will be 'for on account of the chosen ones' that 'the days will be cut short'. Those chosen ones ARE the BODY OF CHRIST.
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18 hours ago, Thinking said:they are presumptions beyond belief
That must refer to your GB who presume they are the F&DS and presume to say that 'God and Christ trust them'.
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13 hours ago, Arauna said:
Her hate-OCD has convinced me she is not a child of Christ - just as your crazy rantings and misapplication of scripture has also put you in the same category. So you love what she says - no surprise there!
Pathetic answer from a lady that thinks she knows more than everyone else. You may have seen Satan's big wide world, but you have not even glimpsed at Truth. You are so mixed up with your own thoughts of hate and OCD that you try to apply it to others.
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13 hours ago, Witness said:
It will refine the anointed if they submit to Christ and leave the slavery to men and their earthly treasures.
13 hours ago, Witness said:surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city.
So, do the Anointed leave the Org ? If so where do they go ? Where is this camp of the saints and the beloved city.
Is it physical or spiritual ? You say it happens before Armageddon, or during Armageddon ?
Are you saying there is no 'thousand year reign' of Christ ? Are you saying that Armageddon is a war between the Devil and the Anointed remnant ?
AND, when will truth be taught to the 'little dogs', the ordinary people of this Earth ? HOW will people know how to serve God properly if all this is happening in 'secret' ? Will there in fact be a complete judgement of all mankind ?
I'm sorry but your 'teachings' are so totally different that you have to follow through with all situations regarding all peoples to be able to make sense of the scriptures.
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13 hours ago, Arauna said:
She is humble and loving and always serving others
Serving the GB of JW Org is not the same as serving God through Christ.
And did God or Christ put you in the judgement seat to judge @Witness ?
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13 hours ago, Arauna said:
it seems to prove that you do not accept the bible and make up your own rules!
I quoted scripture. But you wish to be too blind to see it.
It's your Leaders that make up their own rules.
Acts 15 : 28 and 29
New American Standard Bible
For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these essentials: that you abstain from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from acts of sexual immorality; if you keep yourselves free from such things, you will do well. Farewell.”This is from the Apostles but you do not accept scripture as proof. This was through the Holy Spirit but you still will not accept it. Then you pretend it is me that doesn't accept God's word.
It is not me that adds rules to God's word, it is your GB.
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And now @Arauna joins in on the insults. These JW 'Christians' really love to insult people.
13 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:The only reason anyone could possibly call my remarks sexist is that she is a woman.
And the only reason you find to insult her IS BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN. If she was a man and saying that they were Anointed, you would lose all your ammunition. You seem to hate that women can be Anointed and that women can prophecy. But scripture proves that both those things are possible.
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On 7/3/2021 at 11:43 PM, TrueTomHarley said:
It is just that with nearly all of her writing devoted to her pet peeve, who has the time to search to see if there are any diamonds among the turds?
Just more sexist and insulting comments from Tom I see. Does he really think he is a Christian ?
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Um, @Thinking seems to be well versed in The Satanic side of things.
@xero and @TrueTomHarley and being insulting as usual, whist still pretending to be Christians.
Unfortunately @Srecko Sostar it seems you will not get a sensible answer out of any of them. They just continue to serve their GB and do as they are told by those leaders of the Org. Being obedient to those taking the lead would only make sense if the ones taking the lead had spiritual guidance through Holy Spirit from God through Christ.
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16 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:
Do you really want to go into and to enumerate what are and how many there are real, original "Bible Instructions" God gave to people?
I think we already know that the GB ( and previous leaders ) make it up as they go along.
Acts 15 : 28 & 29
It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond these essential requirements: You must abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals, and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell.
That seems to prove that the GB go beyond the things written.
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Here is an example of Tom's misuse of scripture.
You will see that Tom is slyly pretending that those that have left the JW Org, have left God and Christ. This of course is a GB teaching. JWs are taught that anyone that leaves the Org has left God and Christ.
However, many people that leave the JW org, and even some that were d/fed ( by being misjudged by the Elders ) still want to be close to God and Christ. Hence some on here, including myself, are still studying God's word, and still pray to God through Christ.
Happy is the able-bodied man that takes refuge in him. Yes indeed, Happy is the person that takes refuge in God through Christ.