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14 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:
Quite the contrary. I am now going to use them as you do, to “prove” anything at all.
What we both need to prove, and not to each other, is our faith in God and Christ.
Surely you do believe that, With God all things are possible ? Because the things that are to take place here on Earth cannot be done by humans.
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On 7/5/2021 at 12:11 PM, JW Insider said:
It's also possible that "blood" in Acts 15 is a symbol for "bloodguilt," such as murder, manslaughter, war, etc., just as "idols" can include things like "gluttony" (Phil 3:19) "greediness" (Col 3:5) and even "pleasing men" (Eph 6:6,7; Gal 1:10) Personally, for my own conscience, I'm fine with the idea that abstaining from blood transfusions is one way that we abstain from blood. But there's a chance that we as individuals and as an organization should not be imposing this as a rule on the Bible-trained consciences of others.
Acts 15.
28. For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: 29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!”
Berean Study Bible
You must abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals, and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell.Those three things are referring to food stuff. Things eaten via the mouth.
However, I am always fascinated when you 'reveal' a 'new light' of thought, because it seems you have an 'inside knowledge' of the workings of the GB and it's helpers.
Your last sentence ( above quoted ) says it all after Reading the 'Core 'beliefs'.
Such hypocrisy to say " WE DO NOT TAKE BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS" Then to say " WE ALLOW CONGREGANTS TO USE THEIR OWN CONSCIENCE".
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14 hours ago, Arauna said:
Yehovah is
So once again you are changing it from Jehovah to Yahovah.
I don't think you can decide which to believe.
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13 hours ago, Arauna said:
There is NO proper way of celebrating the birthday of Jesus. Christians were only instructed to commemorate his death NOT his birth. This is why there is NO accurate date for the birth of Christ in the Bible.
If you know the history of how this was instituted you would know that it is a no-no to Christians - no matter how much one tries to justify it.
The history of bridesmaids at weddings is pagan but JWs still have bridesmaids but call them by a different name.
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On 7/5/2021 at 7:39 AM, TrueTomHarley said:
As PSonH is fond of saying, With God all things are possible!
Matthew 19 : 26
Berean Study Bible
Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”The words of Christ, which you seem to despise.
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13 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:
Is celebrating a birthday "more dangerous and bigger evil" than having more women or vice versa?
One wife at a time is enough
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20 hours ago, Kick_Faceinator said:
I want to agree, I wish I could agree, but God wouldn’t have used Russell and is not using the Watchtower simply because of the fact they both are direct opposers of the apostle Paul’s warning to announce the Day of the Lord began before the man of lawlessness was revealed.
God used the Egyptians and the Romans even though God did not approve of them. I'm not suggesting that God approved of Russell but God could have allowed Russell's work to 'wake up' some of the True Anointed ones.
20 hours ago, Kick_Faceinator said:The Watchtower wants us to believe that the man of lawlessness is Christendom, but that is impossible because Paul said the man of lawlessness sits in the temple of God.
20 hours ago, Kick_Faceinator said:We know the temple of God are the anointed, not Christendom.
20 hours ago, Kick_Faceinator said:So unless Christendom is somehow filled with Gods anointed ones that make up Gods temple, there’s only one place the man of lawlessness can possibly be sitting right now…
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On 7/5/2021 at 8:51 AM, Anna said:
I haven't blocked you. I posted the core beliefs HERE
My apologies.
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On 7/5/2021 at 8:51 AM, Anna said:
God. We worship the one true and Almighty God, the Creator, whose name is Jehovah
I think it has been proven that God's name is not Jehovah. Even when Rutherford started the JW thing they actually believed that God's name was Yahweh, but because Jehovah was 'well known' at the time, that was what they used. Yehovah may be closer but in fact no one really knows.
On 7/5/2021 at 8:51 AM, Anna said:Jesus. We follow the teachings and example of Jesus Christ
But totally disobey Jesus' words about baptism.
On 7/5/2021 at 8:51 AM, Anna said:Jesus is the King of God’s Kingdom in heaven. He began ruling in 1914.
The 1914 teaching cannot be proven and is probably untrue. All authority was given to Jesus in 33 C.E. unless you wish to call Christ a liar.
On 7/5/2021 at 8:51 AM, Anna said:Salvation. Deliverance from sin and death is possible through the ransom sacrifice of Jesus. (Matthew 20:28; Acts 4:12) To benefit from that sacrifice, people must not only exercise faith in Jesus but also change their course of life and get baptized.
Re-read your own words and stop and think right there. through the ransom sacrifice of Jesus Not through the JW Org.
But the Org teaches that, A. One has to get baptised into the ORG, B. One has to be a baptised JW to be saved.
The JW way is not God's or Christ's way. The instruction from Jesus was to to Baptise in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
On 7/5/2021 at 8:51 AM, Anna said:A relatively small number of people—144,000—will be resurrected to life in heaven to rule with Jesus in the Kingdom.
This idea that they will rule from heaven is not definite. One scripture seems to be able to be translated as either 'over the earth' or 'on the earth'. And there is something about Gog / Magog surrounding the Camp of the Holy Ones, which would be on Earth ? As I don't pretend to fully understand this, i will keep an open mind on it.
On 7/5/2021 at 8:51 AM, Anna said:In order to settle the moral issues raised by Satan, God has allowed evil and suffering, but He will not permit them to continue forever.
I like this. This is truthful. @Arauna thinks humans are 'most important' or that was how she commented to me. But this shows truth in that the issue is more about the spirit realm than about us. There would be no point cleansing the Earth if Satan and his demons still 'ruled over it'.
On 7/5/2021 at 8:51 AM, Anna said:This could lead to a large debate
. Most things that JWs 'see' are material things. Especially in America with Warrick and Ramapo. And JWs look to the GB as God's mouthpiece F&DS. All reading material comes from this GB and their helpers, some of whom are not even Anointed ones. The whole JW movement is based on what is seen with physical eyes. Not much room is left for real faith.
On 7/5/2021 at 8:51 AM, Anna said:Reading and studying the Bible.
This is a funny one. Instruction comes from the GB via talks and the Watchtower mag. So beliefs clarified are taught to the congregations. That actually means that the congregation is TOLD what to believe. However personal Bible reading is encouraged AS LONG AS a congregant does not find reason to disagree with the GB's instruction on what to believe.
On 7/5/2021 at 8:51 AM, Anna said:Meeting together to pray, study the Bible,
Um, yes, but only if you do it to the GB's set of rules. The GB had it written in the Watchtower that members of the Anointed would 'not want to meet together to pray or to study God's word' and, if they did meet together ' they would be working against the Holy Spirit'
On 7/5/2021 at 8:51 AM, Anna said:Preaching the “good news of the Kingdom.”
Congregants don't actually do much of this. Especially since the 'trolly/cart' work started. What congregants do is act as puppets for the GB. To stand at a cart offering the written word of the GB is not preaching the Good News. Also offering Watchtower mags is not preaching the Good News, it is distributing the GB's written words.
On 7/5/2021 at 8:51 AM, Anna said:However, the elders do not form a clergy class,
This is of course a complete lie. The Elders are the clergy class and prove it in Court rooms around the world.
On 7/5/2021 at 8:51 AM, Anna said:Our unity allows for personal choice, though. Each Witness makes decisions in harmony with his or her own Bible-trained conscience.
This is another lie. The beard thing being one issue. Dress code being another. Birthdays another. And as a personal thing I was totally embarrassed by an Elder at my daughter's wedding, when this Elder put his hand over my glass and told me, in front of everyone, that I was NOT ALLOWED to drink a toast to my daughter and her new husband.
On 7/5/2021 at 8:51 AM, Anna said:We avoid practices that displease God, including the misuse of blood by taking blood transfusions.
This is another issue which was the teaching of MEN, not of GOD. @JW Insider has raised this point.
On 7/5/2021 at 8:51 AM, Anna said:We respect the government where we live and obey its laws as long as these do not call on us to disobey God’s laws.
Not much respect in Australia when asked to join the compensation scheme. Not much respect in the UK when the Charity Commission first asked for CSA documents.
On 7/5/2021 at 8:51 AM, Anna said:Our relationships with others. Jesus commanded: “You must love your neighbor as yourself.” So we try to “work what is good toward all,”
Unless it is someone that has left the JW Org of course. Or even a young person that was baptised too young and then commits sin. Jesus also said 'to love your enemy'. But JWs show hatred to ex JWs and to anyone that is disfellowshipped, and we know that people are d/fed for the wrong reasons some times. But all are shunned and despised. And the CSA / Pedophile problem and mistreatment of Victims shows the hypocrisy here.
Core teachings. Hypocrisy at it's best. The whole thing just proves the dishonesty and lies of the Governing Body and others involved in writing it, and in pretending it is true.
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14 hours ago, JW Insider said:
One of the reasons I like to share what I find when I "ponder" our current teachings about the WTS past, is to point out that looking to the past doesn't get us anywhere. We have more and better reasons to look to the future.
But the past gives a good or bad reference for the ones that are taking the Lead and for the W/t / Org generally.
Remember that your GB make a point of saying that God and Christ trust them. So anyone wishing to be part of such an Org should look at the past 'record of achievements' of the GB / Leaders / Org. And the past records are not a good reference.
You make reference to the things I was taught as a JW. Well I was taught about the 7,000 year creative days. The 6,000 years of humans life, then the 1,000 year reign of Christ. I was taught that the JW / W/t Leaders were inspired of God's Holy Spirit. My studying was from JW books, more than from God's written word, because that is how so called Bible studies were done, and probably still are. But most of those books are now considered 'old light', a good excuse for lies.
In fact I would think that most of what I was taught is now proven to be lies. The foundation of my confidence in the Org has gone, and has been replaced with........... I don't know. Replaced with the 'overlapping generations' and other excuses.
So when I found out about the massive amount of CSA / Pedophilia in the Org earthwide, and the way it was / is being mishandled, it was just the tipping point for me to know that neither God nor Christ approve of the GB or the org.
I agree with you that God / Christ may have used Russell's work and they may also have used / be using the work of the Watchtower / JW Org. But I don't think that either God or Christ approved of Russell or approve of the W/t / Org.
A bit like God used the Egyptians to punish His people, and God used the Romans to destroy Jerusalem in 70 C.E. but God didn't exactly approve of the Romans or Egyptians. So maybe this 'leap' you mention will not be from the W/t or Org, or maybe it will be a cleansing of them. But i think there is a need to remember that God has used punishment for disobedience in the past.
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14 hours ago, JW Insider said:
Perhaps a specific "leap of progress" hasn't even happened yet
Don't tell @TrueTomHarley, he doesn't seem to believe God or Christ can do anything.
For my part i think that leap you are looking for will come from the True Anointed after 'certain things have happened' which i am not allowed to write about for fear of ...................
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13 hours ago, JW Insider said:
1 Corinthians 2:15-16) However, the spiritual man examines all things, but he himself is not examined by any man. 16 For “who has come to know the mind of Jehovah, so that he may instruct him?” But we do have the mind of Christ.
This scripture concerns the Anointed not the earthly class. It is only the True Anointed that have the 'mind of Christ' because they have been anointed as part of the 'body of Christ'.
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13 hours ago, JW Insider said:
We are to teach that the work Russell was involved in and wrote about actually got the attention of Jesus Christ around the year 1914.
Ok, I haven't yet read the rest of your comment but this, in my opinion, needs explaining more clearly please.
Those first five words. Who gives that directive ? and who made that statement ?
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Berean Literal Bible Acts 15 : 28 & 29
"For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us, to lay upon you no further burden, except these necessary things: to abstain from things sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. Keeping yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell."The rest is up to a person's own conscience, because as you've mentioned the law of the land is different in different countries, and then the law itself is different in different cases.
But not according to the GB / Watchtower dictators, who love to have control over people.
(I haven't seen @Anna's list of Core beliefs, shame, but probably because she has blocked me)
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On 7/4/2021 at 8:16 AM, TrueTomHarley said:
True, he thinks he is tearing the cover off the ball with his expose on the rough transition from Russell to Rutherford.
repetition for emphasis. Even when giving me an upvote you still need to have a dig at me
I do believe that it is 'put across as' (in talks ect) that Russell was the one who began the religion which became the JW religion. But WE know that is not the fact of it.
It wasn't even a transition it seems. It was a rip off. Whatever may be written in the Proclaimers book or other JW writings proves nothing at all. We know how well the GB and previous leaders tell lies to cover their own tracks and the tracks of the Org.
The point being that Russell was not a JW and it seems he would not have started an Organisation like it. So it seems strange that the Org 'needs' to cling onto a Man that was 'no part of their world'.
On 7/4/2021 at 8:16 AM, TrueTomHarley said:and if he deviates from the party line in even the tiniest degree, necessitating that I report him to Bethel.
I know this was tongue in cheek but I've actually known that to happen. JWs are warned not to give their own opinion but always to 'go by the book', and I don't mean the Bible, I mean the GB's books.
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13 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:13 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:
If they denied Christ it was because Christ wanted them to.
One must not argue with a dodo.
Well then why would Jesus have known it was going to happen ? It was preplanned.
Matthew 26. Jesus Predicts Peter’s Denial
31 Then Jesus told them, “This very night you will all fall away on account of me, for it is written:
“‘I will strike the shepherd,
and the sheep of the flock will be scattered.’[c]32 But after I have risen, I will go ahead of you into Galilee.”
33 Peter replied, “Even if all fall away on account of you, I never will.”
34 “Truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “this very night, before the rooster crows, you will disown me three times.”
All pre-planned Tom. Jesus was protecting his closest followers.
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15 hours ago, JW Insider said:
So even if we can criticize Russell's human peculiarities and chronology blunders, isn't there something we should be able to identify that indicates Jehovah's blessing on this work. What would we look for specifically, to convince us that Jehovah blessed his work and efforts?
I think you are having a laugh. But I'm more concerned as to why it is so important to you. Russell wasn't a JW and had nothing to do with the forming of the JW religion. He said that an organised religion was not necessary. Rutherford it seems, went in opposition to Russell, as it seems Russell didn't want Rutherford to take over.
If the Bible Students Association are being truthful then they are the true followers of Russell's works, not JWs.
15 hours ago, JW Insider said:It's the work that centered around Russell and his associates, not Russell or those associates themselves.)
Brother Russell Founded the Bible Students, not Jehovah’s Witnesses
https://www.friendsofjehovahswitnesses.com/2011/09/01/bible-students-are-not-jehovahs-witnesses/
This early Bible Student history book is written by Bro. Ken Rawson, a Bible Student elder who knew more Bible Students from Pastor Russell’s and JF Rutherford’s time than any other Bible Student elder alive today.
After the death of Pastor Russell in 1916, the purpose of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society changed drastically. Joseph Rutherford, whom Pastor Russell had recently dismissed from his staff, seized legal control of the Watch Tower, dismissed the majority of the Board of Directors, and established dictatorial authority. The Watch Tower became the central head and authority over all congregations willing to yield their sovereignty. Basic doctrines of the “new society” seriously digressed from the teachings of Pastor Russell as the writings of Pastor Russell were discarded. The methods of conducting the evangelistic work were altered. The more sensational digressions, such as refusing blood transfusion and saluting the flag, caught the public’s eye. But many individuals and whole congregations refused to surrender their Christian liberty or accept the new teachings. As early as 1917, the exodus from the newly declared sovereign headquarters began. By 1918 one-fourth of the Bible Students left Judge Rutherford and remained true to the teachings of the late Pastor Russell.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Student_movement
Thousands of members left congregations of Bible Students associated with the Watch Tower Society throughout the 1920s prompted in part by Rutherford's failed predictions for the year 1925, increasing disillusionment with his on-going doctrinal and organizational changes, and his campaign for centralized control of the movement.[2] William Schnell, author and former Jehovah's Witness, claims that three quarters of the original Bible Students who had been associating with the Watch Tower Society in 1919 had left by 1931.[4][3][a] In 1930 Rutherford stated that "the total number of those who have withdrawn from the Society... is comparatively large."[5]
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16 hours ago, JW Insider said:
You like it when I say something that's different from what most of us believe, and you often immediately think I somehow proven that the WT or GB or other JWs are wrong, just because what I say "goes against the grain.
Yes I like it, because you tend to give scriptural and/or practical reasoning to prove your point. I also find it funny because you seem to apologize for proving them wrong.
16 hours ago, JW Insider said:But I would not stay if it were really a den of immorality and lies.
16 hours ago, JW Insider said:You used to harp on the CSA issues constantly
These two points go together. The CSA / Pedophile problem has been proven to exist in the JW Org and has not been dealt with in an honest and loving way. Victims are seen as collateral damage unless the GB can use them to their advantage. Big private pay offs to keep them quiet. And although rules may have been re-written the hearts of Elders haven't changed. I still find news articles about the CSA but I have made the point very clear in the past, so those that are JWs that wish to remain blind, and wish to remain in an immoral Org, will do so. The virus seemed to 'shut down' court proceedings in the USA around February 2020, and the massive court procedure in Canada didn't happen, one wonders why, but money talks of course. Unfortunately the UK is blocked from receiving many news articles from the States.
16 hours ago, JW Insider said:After all, Jesus associated with sinners, prostitutes, tax collectors, etc., because those were the kind of people who knew they had a spiritual need to help overcome their sinful, fleshly issues and desires. If people get the right counsel, it's not the fault of the counselor when the person goes their own way.
Comparing the GB or the Org to Jesus. The point Jesus made was that those people must turn around and repent, and then serve God by following Jesus' examples. Whereas the GB / Watchtower Leaders made allowances for Pedophiles to be kept hidden in the JW Org for half a century. The apostle Paul brought things out into the open about sinners in the congregations, the GB kept it all hidden.
16 hours ago, JW Insider said:Were you actually "lying" when you taught people certain JW doctrines that you now believe are untrue?
Yes I obviously was. Because I was taught not to question. I was taught another lie, the lie that the Watchtower Leaders were directed by Holy Spirit from God.
16 hours ago, JW Insider said:When the WTS admits they were wrong about a teaching and they change it, they do this out of a desire to get it right. That's true even if they still have it wrong.
Are you so blind ? What you are saying is that you will continue to follow the words of Men even though you know they are not inspired of God's holy spirit.
16 hours ago, JW Insider said:(Psalm 146:3) . . .Do not put your trust in princes Nor in a son of man, who cannot bring salvation.
You quoted this then you still trust the WTS, who are only 'men', even though they prove time and time again to be producing false teachings, telling lies.
16 hours ago, JW Insider said:However, in a stricter Biblical sense, due to human imperfection even in our motives, "every man is a liar:"
BUT your GB say that THEY are the F&DS, AND THEY say that GOD and CHRIST TRUST THEM.
How many more lies do you need ? They condemn themselves.
16 hours ago, JW Insider said:But then, this is true even of the apostles Paul, Peter, James, John, and any other "True Anointed" as long as they are on the earth as humans.
Please give examples...... If they denied Christ it was because Christ wanted them to. It was deliberate as a means of safety for the disciples. Otherwise they would have been put to death with Him and no more preaching would have been done, and no Greek scripture would have been written.
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On 7/3/2021 at 8:03 AM, TrueTomHarley said:
Nothing is about anything with you, it seems, other than taking incessant shots at the ones you crazily think have cheated you from your stage and position.
This is just a cheap sexist comment, from Tom, as per usual, from a non spiritual man. But Tom and other JWs chose to blind themselves from the TRUTH.
@JW Insider for instance. Although I think he is very balanced in his thoughts and comments, still chooses to reside in the den of immorality and lies.
But Tom, he is looking to make money from it, so he not only resides there but loves doing so.
@Arauna unfortunately takes the very serious line of accusing all ex JWs of hate. A totally un-Christian and unrealistic viewpoint but I fear it is because of her blindness to TRUTH and her dedication to her GB.
I would have thought that disobeying the words of Jesus Christ and by choosing to be baptised into an Organisation would be apostasy in itself. So all JWs, especially those in positions of authority are apostate.
But, @Witness I like that you do keep giving the warning to 'get out of her' because by doing so you are proving faithful to God through Christ.
The facts are Mr Tom, that the Anointed are of both sexes, men and ladies, whilst in human form. And, the fact is that the GB DID make a point of saying that the Anointed 'would not want to meet together for prayer or Bible study' and that the Anointed 'would be working against the Holy spirit' if they did meet together.
I would suggest that the GB committed apostasy by thus saying such things, and it would seem scripture proves my point.
Matthew 18 : 19, 20
Berean Study Bible
"Again, I tell you truly that if two of you on the earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by My Father in heaven. For where two or three gather together in My name, there am I with them.”or if you prefer the New World Translation.
19 Again I tell you truly, if two of you on earth agree concerning anything of importance that they should request, it will take place for them on account of my Father in heaven. 20 For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.”
As you know I believe scripture is mainly for the True Anointed, although we can all learn some basics from it. Hence I'm surprised you dislike scripture Tom.
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16 hours ago, Pudgy said:
Hold the Comedy until I get back .....
Oh dear James. Keep taking the meds'
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13 hours ago, Arauna said:
No but it takes a lot of hate to write so many letters.
And you would know about hate
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13 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:
You crazy women, if they were mighty they would tell Russian cops to lay off and the latter would wet themselves for doing what they have done.
When I read your comments Tom I can understand why it is a waste of time and effort talking to people such as you.
The scripture is right. "Do not cast your pearls before swine".
It's not so much that @Witness is right all the time, but you certainly act like a childish swine in reply.
As for women prophesying Acts 2 : 17
Berean Study Bible
‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out My Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.But you don't seem to believe what God says do you Tom ? You seem to rely on the words of your GB
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Is that a Watchtower picture to frighten people into the Org ?
20 hours ago, BroRando said:For look! the Kingdom of God is in your midst.” (Luke 17:20-21)
So Jesus said those words. Jesus said " IS in your midst ". Present tense. Because Jesus was the King of the Kingdom even back then.
20 hours ago, BroRando said:In reference to the event that would mark the End of the Gentile Times, Brother Russell wrote:
Here you quickly change from, the words of God, to the words of a Man.
And then you harp on about the year 1914, which is false prophecy. Then you misquote the Matthew scripture
20 hours ago, BroRando said:All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress." (Matthew
Whereas the better translation which many bibles use is not 'pangs of distress' BUT 'birth pangs''
20 hours ago, BroRando said:Brother Russell also mentions that
Russell was an International bible Student, not a JW. But even so Russell was just a man like any other. Unfortunately he seems to have been used by the devil to 'mislead many'
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13 hours ago, Arauna said:
Korah and his rebellious act brought death upon him, his associates and family, executed directly from Jehovah. We see many times in scripture that people who go beyond or want more than their designated position and then take part in rebellion or blatant disobedience
Yes indeed. and we see it more so in the JW Org. The GB that has gone beyond their position and want more than they deserve. THAT GB call THEMSELVES the Faithful and Discreet Slave, showing complete rebelliousness.
The GB then tells the Anointed ones not to meet together for prayer or bible study. THE GB tells the Anointed that the Anointed ' would be working against the Holy Spirit'. So it shows the GB are putting themselves in the place of God and Christ, by deciding just how the Holy Spirit will work.
Then the GB, those Leaders of the Watchtower / Org, put the Elders above the rest of the Anointed ones.
13 hours ago, Arauna said:And then they start to beat their fellows slaves publicly
Yes your GB do indeed beat their fellow slaves publicly.
Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance
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Do you actually know who the Temple of God are ?
1 Corinthians 3 : 16 & 17
6 Do you not know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that the spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him; for the temple of God is holy, and you are that temple.
This was Paul writing to the Anointed ones in Corinth. It is the Anointed that are the TEMPLE.
So where do you think the Anointed remnant are ?