Patiently waiting for Truth

19 hours ago, Anna said:

On 4/11/2021 at 3:01 AM, xero said:

No. It's better to say "Yes. I DO think I'm better at X, Y  or Z than another person. 

It's all about being politically correct.

I prefer not to compare people or things. I don't compare myself to others.  If I'm going to compare myself it will be to Bible standards.  Xero seems to be pointing people toward being competitive, which i don't think is good.  I think Jesus told the disciples not to do it. 

I think you are a fake. Probably another AKA of someone else on here. 

Quote "Here, let me help you. I'll spoon feed you."  How smug is that ?  Defo' not of the True Anointed ones. 

16 hours ago, xero said:

A visit to Bora Bora is in order. Yup. No opposers or long winded idiots here.

go then you won't be missed on here  

Once again this becomes a comedy forum. Is someone actually paying for this web space. I've no idea how forums are 'paid for'. Maybe by the advertisements ? 

It is a shame how xero has to keep showing his inner self to the world, and it is a shame how CC = Billy the kid has to keep spewing acid.  I thank you Tom for making it all so amusing... I'm only on here this morning as it's raining outside and i need to think of things to do.  Have a nice day everyone.  Oh, I note there is a new topic about a 'new book' = new light  

So @Brother Rando  are you actually one of Jehovah's Witnesses ? 

Are you one of the Anointed ?  If you are a JW, is your 'new book' working with the Governing Body of the Watchtower / CCJW ? 

I won't download it as it may contain a virus and there seem to be enough of those in the word right now.  

The words of God tell us not to put trust in 'men'. And it seems that you are just another man. But, I keep saying that a True Anointed will appear. However I don't think you are one of them. 

On the one hand you admit that we are NOT supposed to know the 'day or the hour', but then you tell us that you know the year.  2034 is it ? 

So, if you have this 'secret information' why doesn't the GB have it ? They pretend to be the F&DS don't they. 

13 hours ago, JW Insider said:

But slaves (before capture, during, or after being freed from captivity) were not necessarily less bright than their captors. And some "particular training" does not necessarily make someone bright, either.

Discrimination has seemed to run through the Org from it's very beginning. Even Russell said that 'non white' people were of lower intelligence. 

13 hours ago, JW Insider said:

xero has been rightly criticized for condescension with respect (or lack of respect) to some Witnesses and their IQs, and prior references to Witness obesity, gluttony, lack of exercise, etc.

And do you believe that this xero is really a JW ?  You know for sure that I am not...  

Does xero show any true Christian qualities ?    As for me I try to state facts, although i do tend to 'think aloud' too

14 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

a phrase the Bible itself never uses

The Bible doesn't use the phrase 'Governing Body' either.  Or 'Jehovah's Witnesses'  

The 'name' for God seems to be YHWH. 

And it is you that goes on and on about the True Anointed 

14 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

soon to manifest itself out of nowhere,

When you know full well that they already exist.  When the GB are no longer ruling a dozen or so Orgs / Societies, then the True Anointed will be revealed to mankind. 

15 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Tax collectors were glorified thugs who simply beat money out of people.

Would Jesus choose such a man ?  Yes i know that Jesus reads 'hearts', but if Matthew was as you suggest. 

22 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Yes and no. Obviously the head is not nothing, but it is the heart that recoils at a trinity making God unknowable and a hellfire doctrine making him cruel, someone you would not want to know.

And what therefore of a God ( so the GB pretend) that would kill you for not being a baptised JW ? 

23 hours ago, xero said:

I always found that emotionalism to be incredibly self-indulgent and narcissistic. Jesus would have said (actually he did) "get a room!" 

⁶  But when you pray, go into your private room and, after shutting your door, pray to your Father who is in secret.+ Then your Father who looks on in secret will repay you - Mt. 6:6

Xero takes scripture totally out of context of course.  Matthew 6 : 5 & 6. 

 5 “Also, when you pray, do not act like the hypocrites, for they like to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the main streets to be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. ⁶  But when you pray, go into your private room and, after shutting your door, pray to your Father who is in secret. Then your Father who looks on in secret will repay you.

Jesus was saying do not pray on display to get rewards from men.  Jesus was not saying, do not pray together in unity.  Remember that Jesus said to the anointed, 'when two or more of you are gathered in my name, i am among you'. So Jesus wanted them to gather together to pray.  

Matthew 18 : 20

For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.”

On 4/10/2021 at 12:22 PM, Anna said:

Yes, true indeed. On the other hand one has to use the head to be able to distinguish the truth from non truth. Evangelicals are led by the heart, but they are obviously misguided. 

This one is a laugh..... The GB are obviously led by the Devil, and prove it by telling the Anointed not to gather together and to threaten the True Anointed that they would be ' working against the Holy Spirit' if they did gather together. When Jesus told them they should gather together and to ask for things in His name.   The GB, led by their hearts, are frightened that the True Anointed will prove spiritually strong, so the GB listen to the Devil and do his work. 

On 4/10/2021 at 12:02 PM, xero said:

Opposers strike me as the kinds of people who have imagined their (arguable) superior intelligence makes them right in all things. They mistake the ability to argue a position with being correct.  (1 Cor. 1:19 comes to mind)

And here we have it !   This is Xero at her best.  All this writing about 'conscience' was nothing but a smoke screen. It was all hiding his hate for his imagined Opposers.  She/he now tries to pretend that imagined Opposers are all of low intelligence. This makes Xero feel superior. Xero seems to have an inferiority complex. 

Just a quote here from Xero

On 4/10/2021 at 12:02 PM, xero said:

Intelligence wrongly used or in the hands of a moral pervert is a dangerous weapon whose use brings nothing good to its holder or to anyone else for that matter.

Yes indeed. Moral pervert  = GB / Watchtower / JW org.  Child Sexual Abuse court cases. GB lawyers. Misused intelligence with no moral standing and no spirituality. 

On 4/10/2021 at 4:56 AM, xero said:

Also, it would seem that IQ and conscience are also related. I would imagine that certain nuance in the exercise of one's conscience might get a jaundiced look from low IQ brothers and sisters. Let's face it, some of our most faithful brothers and sisters have IQ's about the level of a hamster.

This just seems to sum up the thinking of Xero.  It links to the ideas from the GB about people being mentally ill too.

I wonder if fishermen in Jerusalem had a fantastically high IQ ?  Maybe a Tax Collector did. A physician yes. 

On 4/10/2021 at 12:38 AM, JW Insider said:

Yet he was willing to write a letter that publicly declared that it was OK to eat meat sacrificed to an idol. Which is worse, eating in front of one who might be stumbled, or writing a letter that offends 10,000 brothers who might be stumbled at hearing your flippant attitude about meat sacrificed to idols.

Eating the meat would have been a personal choice. But the writing of, what we now call scripture, WAS inspired of God's Holy Spirit. So the writing declaring, that it was OK to eat that meat, was not from Paul, but from Almighty God. 

On 4/10/2021 at 12:38 AM, JW Insider said:

What the WTS has currently identified as "not allowed" (whole and larger fractions) are not considered to be a matter of conscience. They are simply not allowed without the potential consequences of disfellowshipping.

And this is why people say, and this proves the point, that congregants ARE controlled / ruled over by the GB / WTS.

On 4/10/2021 at 12:38 AM, JW Insider said:

because there is trust in the WTS decision that you have made a decision that properly falls under the range of decisions that are allowed by your own conscience.

This really proves that JWs serve and put their faith in the GB and the W/t / JW org. 

And it's good to see that you recognise  that THREAT of disfellowshipping hanging over the congregation. 

(I need something lighthearted after the stress of CC)

So Prince Philip has died at the ripe old age of 99.  A good innings i would say. 

An Elder I know continues to say that the dead will 'all' get a resurrection. (Yes we know of certain ones that we presume won't)

I was just 'thinking aloud' that when Prince Philip is resurrected they will say to him, "There is good news and bad news" "The good news is that you have been resurrected into this wonderful new world" "The bad news is that you are no longer a prince".

Continuing this thought pattern. If everyone is resurrected with their 'old' memory, then they will have to make big adjustments in their lives. Thinking of people that would have had powerful positions, or maybe had servants. I never really delved into the thoughts of everyone being equal, but I've heard that the Elders believe they will be princes. 

Of course there will be the need of things being 'organised' after Armageddon. But will it go back to having men ruling over the people ? Even if it did it would not be the earthly rulers we have now. So they would have to show great humility. Maybe it will be easier for people that have had a more lowly position in this world to adjust to the 'new world'. 

(I do hope we won't get CC or others, telling some here, that they won't be in the 'new world'. Christ has the authority to judge all.) 

13 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Finally you are talking sense.

I am starting to foam at the mouth all over again.

But the funny thing was, i wasn't sugesting CC was you Tom.  I was suggesting CC was xero.  

I am now thinking that CC is not good with English. 

Ah CC so you are xero. Ok fine.  That is why you are so upset with my 'thinking aloud'.

13 hours ago, César Chávez said:

You should learn the government and laws, before you make accusations,

13 hours ago, César Chávez said:

However, the owner will soon see how allowing your accusations, to stand in this site by ignorance of freedom of speech, will not work anymore in today's society.

I note here that you say I make accusation. That in itself is an accusation aimed at me. 

As for me, I only use one name or one aka on this forum.  One is enough. 

I'll put the kettle on then to make tea for the Police you pretend to be sending. 

I see no one here has anything spiritual to write about. 

23 hours ago, César Chávez said:

Your words are chosen as a pathetic old man!!

I love it. You say things like this but you still answer my comments. 

As for xero, he can make his own choices. I think he/she is just another AKA anyway. Is it you Billy ? Is it Tom ?  Do I actually care ? Could I actually be taken to court for thinking aloud about an AKA who does not reveal their real identity ?  It's all too funny  ........ 

Your laws in America are different to ours here in England. Come to think of it aren't the laws in America different in every State ? 

On 4/8/2021 at 6:42 AM, JW Insider said:

CC is right about the insinuation. You insinuated that someone committed a heinous crime, but without any basis or evidence.

CC just wants me d/fed from this forum, the same as he did to John Butler.  You call it insinuation, I call it thinking aloud. 

To 'wonder' is not the same as to accuse. 

13 hours ago, César Chávez said:

I will file a complaint, now directly to the UK, and it's not about you being removed from this site.

Do you know how stupid you look ? .  "File a complaint, directly to the UK"  ???????

The UK is a collection of countries. I 'wonder' to whom you will direct this 'complaint'.  You are so funny.

13 hours ago, César Chávez said:

John, my aim is to show, how your complaints about the GB are dangerous and your words have meaning and consequences.

My words are chosen very carefully. I never write if I'm upset, I keep a level head. 

I have never written a direct threat and never made a direct accusation to anyone on this forum.  It is only your wild imagination that leads you to complian about me. But if it keeps you happy. 

What was it Xero said about people living in their mother's basement and making up stories...  It must happen a lot in the USA.  

13 hours ago, César Chávez said:

This stupidity doesn't work, when, you WRITE IT DOWN!!!

But Xero can get away with it when he writes that hs is 'just thinking aloud'  

On 4/7/2021 at 9:31 AM, César Chávez said:

WOW! I hope XERO is not vindictive! This kind of "accusation" has consequences written all over it. It even has it for the owner of this site. I would recommend, the owner speak with their legal department, for what kind of slander they are willing to go to court for. XERO has every legal right to challenge such malice!!

The acronym CSA is specific!! Child Sexual Abuse!! The word "Committed" describes, INTENT!! The rest of the sentence is inconsequential. 

Billy this is exactly what you did to John Butler. You deliberately twisted what was written to suit your own twisted mind.

I wrote "Xero gets more childish by each comment. His low inteligence level would have been just right for an elder. I wonder if he commited CSA ? He must have been removed for a reason."  

wonder =  ask oneself, think about, meditate on, reflect on,  

Hence it is NOT an accusation. I was just thinking aloud .  And yes i know you put accusation in inverted commas. But in fact you are slyly 'accusing' me of accusing him. So the slander in on you. 

The word commited is past tense meaning 'having done' or 'having acted in such a way''.

Being past tense it is not 'intent'.  Intent = 'intention or purpose' or 'determined to do'. 

That is future tense. 

I do know that your aim is to get me removed from this forum too but the rest of that sentance is just as important as the words you choose to harp on about, so on this one you loose.  

(yes I have saved this whole conversation for future use)

17 hours ago, xero said:

It's like blocking bombardier beetles

 

Xero gets more childish by each comment. His low inteligence level would have been just right for an elder. I wonder if he commited CSA ? He must have been removed for a reason. 

14 hours ago, xero said:

You know this blocking feature is like lidar on the amazon rain forest. You can see things much more clearly in threads when you use it. Especially things which are hidden. I was using in as I read the 607 thread a year ago and blocking the noise-makers made the structures of the arguments came to the fore like so many long-abandoned canals in the rain forest.

Dream on Ex Elder. 

13 hours ago, xero said:

urban dictionary-esque. basically a non-contributing waste of human flesh.

You should not talk about yourself like that Xero. Even if your mother's basement is the best home you've got.