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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Vaccine time   
    No vaccine for me. I find it kinda funny that anyone who is Christian would allow their body to be misused volutarily.
    The vaccine does not protect anyone, does not stop a person catching, carrying, passing on, the virus, so it proves to be just an experiment on people rather than animals. Although Billy says we are all animals anyway.  
    Just a bit of clarity though. I have high blood pressure, I'm 71 years old, and my own dad died of a cerebral hemorrhage, so I think i have good reasons to say no to a vaccine. Many old folk are dying after having the vaccine here in England.. 
    J & J  were found to have knowingly  allowed asbestos in their brand of talcum powder, so I certainly woud not trust them with an untested vaccine. All the covid vaccines are 'not tested' because there was never enough time allowed.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    I get it that I am being tagged, and I appreciate the apparent vote of confidence. But I think it is pretty clear that with PSomH you are dealing with a dodo whose inability to talk or see sense, not just on JW things but on many things in general, can cause people to pull their hair out, as it is with you.  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    @Space Merchant  I am sorry that you are so angry and have to 'hate' on me.  We will of course continue to have different opinons. You obviously think from a different angle to me but you sound so aggressive about it all.
    You seem to like to tell me what I should and shouldn't think or do, and even to the point of which scriptures i should and shouldn't use. That does not show any form of love, it in fact shows the wish to control.  This is very much in line with the Watchtower / JW org leaders that wish to control the thinking and actions of every JW. 
    Like I say, it would probably be wise for you to look in that spiritual mirror.  You may have lots of 'knowledge' but it would appear by the things you write that you lack the love of a true Christian. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    That's a dangerous accusation to make. In the beginning of Christianity there was only one direct Christian way. Now however there are many 'Christian' religions. You seem to be following the Watchtower direction of pretending that if a person does not serve God in a way in which 'you approve', then they are not serving God at all.  
    Please go and look at yourself in the mirror and examine yourself spirtually. You are happy to dig at me with this :-
    but you actually lack the understanding of my meaning. Now whether you lack that understanding deliberately or not is not for me to judge. But for you to think you know who is alienated from God and who isn't, well I'll repeat, examine yourself. 
    You are concerned what 'the cool folks' say ?  I prefer the words of the apostle Paul at Romans 12 : 9
    "Love must be sincere. Detest what is evil; cling to what is good." 
    I left the Watchtower / Jehovah's Witnesses because I learnt that their Leaders were involved in EVIL deeds. Not only the Leaders but also many of the Elders earthwide. Since leaving I've learnt of some of the many lies they have told, scriptures they have misused, and the lack of love and mercy they show. So I will continue to HATE WHAT IS BAD. Whereas it seems, you are more interested in what 'the cool folks' say. But who are those  cool folks ? Are they part of the devils wicked world ? 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Like the Days of Noah...   
    As Witness has almost said, that scripture does not refer to the likes of false anointed or false teachers. 
    And as I've always said the scriptures are for the True Anointed remnant, of which it would seem, you are not one. 
    But your pattern of condemning me brings back memories of Billy The Kid and other aka's that have done similar. 
    For my part I worry not for myself.  I know I will be judged either in this life, or in the resurrection, if I die before the Judgement comes. My faith in God through Christ is strong, and I know both God and Christ are honest, fair and merciful. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Like the Days of Noah...   
    I know the truth hurts you but, 
    A. There is no lava bath. The dead are conscious of nothing at all. 
    B. You are just a fraud pretending to serve God but you condemn others, which Jesus said you should not do. 
    Quite funny as you started out here sounding so 'good', but now it's obvious that you are just someone else under a different AKA. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Like the Days of Noah...   
    That is totally lost  on me, . Star Wars ???????????? 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Like the Days of Noah...   
    Once again this can easily refer to the leaders of the Watchtower / JW Org. Obviously they didn't have the FACTS  when they wrote so many of their Watchtower magazines and so many of their books. Either they didn't have the FACTS or they deliberately told lies.  But you probably wont agree. It would be pointless listing proof of their mistakes / lies as it's all been here before. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Like the Days of Noah...   
    Traditions of men. Or just dictatorship by the GB ? 
    Well silly things come to mind such as the Beard problem. Some brothers were not even allowed on the platform if they had a beard.
    The Suit and Tie thing, a must for all brothers. And ladies not being allowed to wear trousers even though they are designed and made for ladies. 
    And having to go through an 'examination' of 100 questions before being allowed to be baptised. And then being baptised into the Organisation, not baptised as Jesus gave instruction. 
    Having to put in report sheets to prove you have done ministry each month, then being counted as 'inactive' if you haven't put a report in.   
    Being almost forced to join their Ministry school which mean you have to go up onto the platform to give small talks to the whole congregation (over 100 people). Something which gave me no pleasure at all. 
    The being told what you can and cannot do, instead of it being left to your own conscience. 
    Yes it's all been on here before but you did ask. 
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Like the Days of Noah...   
    Once again that is only your opinion. I stop when I realize I'm wasting my time reading. 
     
    The meme is a very touchy subject that I will not get drawn into. You know why as I mentioned so at the time. 
    The FBI thing I know nothing about but I'm sure you will enlighten me. 
    Paul and Barnabas had a disagreement, they even went separate ways, but they both forgave one another. However you seem to have judged me and you tell me that i do not forgive others. So be it. You have chosen to think that way. 
    Once again the only thing i take from your long comment is that you continue to judge me.  I hope it helps you to build your faith in God through Christ. For surely we will all be judged in due time. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Like the Days of Noah...   
    @BroRando  You are funny. You are good for a laugh, but, you cannot be taken seriously because of your attitude. 
    Yes, each day we get a day closer to Armageddon, of course we do. And i don't deny we are living in the 'time of the end'.
    But what I will not do is to put a date on it.  And as the scripture tells us "Unless those days were cut short, then no flesh would be saved". 
    Now either Almighty God or Jesus Christ, has to decide when those days must be cut short. 
    As for 1914, that was 'thrown out the window' years ago. You are just living in the past. 
    You are of course entitled to your own opinion about 2034. But you must question yourself as to whether God or Christ has given you the right to spread that rumour to bring trouble to other people.  You could well be seen as a stumbling block as mentioned in Luke 17 : 1 & 2. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Like the Days of Noah...   
    I gave up half way through your ramblings. And yes it's good that you hound me, just as the Pharisees hounded Jesus. 
    As for opinions, everyone on here is just going by their own opinions. NO ONE is inspired of God's Holy Spirit. Even the JWs disagree amongst themselves. 
    Rando mentions the 120 years in his first comment, which we know he relates to 1914 and comes out with 2034. So you are saying 'other people' are saying that 2034 is 'the year'.  I don't really care what 'people' are saying when it comes to naming a specific year, because we are told that NO ONE KNOWS THE DAY OR THE HOUR. So those that are spending their time pretending to know, are working against God and Christ Jesus. 
    You say "But you do not really forgive anyone"  How wrong you are.
    You say that I get angry.  Once again How wrong you are.  
    Because I am assertive you presume I am angry. but you are wrong. You have chosen to judge me. You have chosen to hound me. You have chosen to 'think' that you are right about matters. So be it. But in reality you have just jumped onto the bandwagon with Tom and Arauna and others.
    I do continue to forgive everyone that dislikes me and that talks against me and that accuses me of things. Jesus said that anyone that followed him would suffer in such ways. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Like the Days of Noah...   
    What I seem to notice is that JWs (or pretend JWs) will use outside information when it suits them, and discard outside information when it does not fit with their ideas. 
    Now regarding 2034. Surely it does not matter how many people have 'come to this conclusion' ?  Firstly, why are people needing to find a date ?  And why would JWs need to trust the words of 'worldly' men or men of other 'faiths' ? 
    At this point I would question, is 2034 a Watchtower / JW Org teaching, or is it just a Rando teaching ? 
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    Are you suggesting that JWs have only 'true' information ?  This, you see, is an important matter.
    The Watchtower / JW org is truthful on some matters, but that does not mean they are honest in all things. However the general consensus on this forum is that if a person leaves the JW Org, then they have left God, or left the 'truth'. 
    So, are you saying that none of the Watchtower / JW Org teachings can be 'misinformation' ? 
    Are you saying that the Governing Body of the Watchtower can not have 'misconceptions' ? 
     
    Yes, by @JW Insider references, Russell tied himself up in knots with dates, predictions and then doubts about it all. 
    But quite funny that Russell thought that people would still be reading his books now. The International Bible Students which still exist, seem to support Russell I think. 
    Since Rutherford started the new organisation of the JWs there must have been a hundred books written by them, most of which have now been removed. They keep saying they have 'new light'. 
    So, is 2034 'new light' or just some peoples dream ? 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Like the Days of Noah...   
    And what do you think this has to do with me ? 
    I have not denied Almighty God or Jesus Christ.  I study God's written word and also pray to him. 
    I have strong faith in God through Christ. And I do not guess at dates that are none of my business. 
    I do not try to mislead others. I am not after followers for myself. 
    The fact that I give warning about the JW Org having Pedophiles in it, and that Child Sexual Abuse takes place in it, this cannot be a bad warning to people. 
    And the fact that I do not believe your GB are the F&DS has no bearing on my love for God or Christ. 
    Jesus made a point of telling His disciples not to make names for themselves and not to place themselves above others. 
    Unfortunately you seem to think that the Watchtower/JW Org replace God and Christ. You seem to be worshipping your  Organisations and your GB, or pretendig to do so. 
    I do wonder if you are actually a JW at all. Or if you are deliberately trying to bring shame on that Organisation. That is exactly what Billythe Kid and others tried to do, and Billy also used  this way of trying to condemn me. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Like the Days of Noah...   
    I will not be drawn out on this issue. I do not want some one to use it as an excuse to remove me from here. 
    My point about those two early Christians was that they disagreed, went seperate ways, but still forgave each other. 
    Indeed Christians can break and some do. However having left the JW Org I feel spiritually stronger because i have to 'go it alone' as far as people are concerned. My faith in God through Christ is stronger and that is what matters to me. 
    Have a good day.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    You keep pushing just like a bully in a school playground. "Do this, do that. I told you this, I told you that".
    No love, no thoughtfulness, just harshness. A Truther, with no heart. So be it.  
    I suppose one thing that the JWs teach makes sense. "Don't argue, just walk away.  It doesn't matter what the enemy thinks, it only matters that you are pleasing God through Christ".   
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in Vaccine time   
    But if you exclude him that way you’ll miss out on his hysterical anti-JW tirades!
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in Mark of the Beast   
    I'm not sure how that's done either!
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in Mark of the Beast   
    "Let God be true, and every human being a liar. As it is written: “So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge.”  Rom 3:4
    Organizations are found all over this earth.  They require attention, money, structure – hierarchy - and dedication to its purpose. 
    Definition of organization - a group of people who form a business, club, etc. together in order to achieve a particular aim.
    Using the well known method of serving a purpose, men, not inspired by Holy Spirit, chose to make an organization on this earth, and then claim it is God’s organization.  I’m sure the Mormons say the same thing about their organization.
    Jesus said,  “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.
    But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.” 
    No physical organization is needed to have faith in God and Christ. Can you live without your organization?  Do you revere/take joy in its earthly accomplishments, its massive buildings and large compounds?  The upkeep to prevent moths and vermin from destroying every treasured building of the organization must be phenomenal.   How easy it has become to lose sight and reject the spiritual “organization”, the Temple Zion built with “living stones”, and Jesus Christ as its cornerstone. (1 Pet 2:5,9; Eph 2:20-22) What a stumbling stone that has become for those who are dedicated to an earthly organization.  (1 Pet 2:6-8)  Through the thieving fabrication of men, the hearts of all who take part in supporting it, will find their faith in God destroyed.  
    Your leaders once said that this type of dedication, is idolatry – a modern version of it. 
    "As Christians, we face up to similar challenges today. We cannot take part in any modern version of idolatry—be it worshipful gestures toward an image or symbol or the imputing of salvation to a person or an organization."  Wt ‘90/11/1 p. 26
    Doesn’t your organization promise salvation to all who remain members of it?  It has taken on a “breath” of life through its representatives, the elder body. (Rev 13:15) THIS IS IDOLATRY!
    Deut 4:23 – “Be careful not to forget the covenant of the Lord your God that he made with you; do not make for yourselves an idol in the form of anything the Lord your God has forbidden.”
    Exod 20:3-5 - “You shall have no other gods before me.4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me”
    “Jehovah’s organization”, is the name of your god.  If you can’t detach from men and their riches who tell you that their organization is necessary for you to receive salvation, then you are an idolater. 
    Exod 23:13 - “Be careful to do everything I have said to you. Do not invoke the names of other gods; do not let them be heard on your lips.”
     
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Space Merchant in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    I don't get angry, because of Galatians 5. Getting emotional, even displaying anger yields nothing, be it spiritually, and culturally, nor express hate, if it was already said, I hate minsifnroamtion and the Trinity, those affiliated with such I see as misguided. A Spiritually Strong person holds firm and stands when in harm's way, holding true to God and his Word, and adhere to the command of his Christ, mainly those who are seeking truth. If anyone buckled, it was you, hence your reaction, which is why it can be saved when the wave comes, you can be swept away by it. But as shown before you do not know culture. Also by the way, my remark to Tom was no opinion, it was fact. Since the fall of the church this has been happening, centuries onward to present day, today,  until the end of the End Times.
    Can you please address the the below in regards to Romans 12:9
    Which is also connected to this:
    and this:

    That being said, that is quite a cheeky accusation, I don't buckle or faze to misguided folks, which I knew what is coming because when pressed with the facts you either [A] walk around what is said and [B] Say a remark just to deviate from what is being asked of you - not this time. If you didn't want to be checked in this manner, you should not not mentioned me let alone make a response to what I told @TrueTomHarley. Anyways, How does not lack love when defending what is true about those who are for God around the world who deals with those who are alienated from God? It is the very reason I brought up Syrian Christians. Not to long ago you pressed a defense with Romans 12:9, which has now been called into question.
    To abhor what is good is not love, hence your confusion. Therefore, the use of Romans 12:9 is unwise. Perhaps if it was in reverse, you'd have a case.
     
    That being said, address the quotation, if you speak such resolve.
     
    As for the hands vs wrist notation, the information is true to it's concordances. Mainly in regards to the tearing of flesh.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from BroRando in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    Well yes. you and James always were in agreement. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from BroRando in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    Wow. You and SM must get on well. All you do is criticize and judge me. You deliberately avoid the whole point of this topic because you get your pleasure, not from serving God, but from trying to wind people up and to get material for your books.
    Have a good day Tom.  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from BroRando in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    John 2 From verse 19 onward. 
     When it was late that day, the first day of the week, and the doors were locked where the disciples were for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in their midst and said to them: “May you have peace.” 20  After saying this, he showed them his hands and his side. Then the disciples rejoiced at seeing the Lord.21  Jesus said to them again: “May you have peace. Just as the Father has sent me, I also am sending you.” 22  After saying this he blew on them and said to them: “Receive holy spirit. 23  If you forgive the sins of anyone, they are forgiven; if you retain those of anyone, they are retained.”24  But Thomas, one of the Twelve, who was called the Twin, was not with them when Jesus came. 25  So the other disciples were telling him: “We have seen the Lord!” But he said to them: “Unless I see in his hands the print of the nails and stick my finger into the print of the nails and stick my hand into his side, I will never believe it.” 26  Well, eight days later his disciples were again indoors, and Thomas was with them. Jesus came, although the doors were locked, and he stood in their midst and said: “May you have peace.” 27  Next he said to Thomas: “Put your finger here, and see my hands, and take your hand and stick it into my side, and stop doubting but believe.” 28  In answer Thomas said to him: “My Lord and my God!” 29  Jesus said to him: “Because you have seen me, have you believed? Happy are those who have not seen and yet believe.”
    I did the biblehub thing to compare these verses and as far as I could see they all compare favourably with this NWT translation. 
    BUT it seems that some people on here do not agree with any of them. 
    Some of you, even some JWs, want to change the wording. You want NAIL, instead of NAILS. And you want WRISTS instead of HANDS. 
    Now this is only ONE small portion of scripture. This portion is from the New World Translation written by the Watchtower Soc' / JW org, and approved by the GB of those orgs. And yet even JWs do not believe it. 
    So how is a Christian supposed to 'study' God's word if that 'word' is not translated properly anywhere ? 
    Some here will say, 'You have to do research'. But surely that would mean spending ten minutes on every line written. Not only would you lose the sense of it, you would quickly become demoralised. 
    Some here call me a fool for my hoping in a True Anointed remnant. So continue to do so, as now I'm also hoping in a TRUE translation of the Holy Scriptures. 
    People need to be able to trust what they are reading in God's word. But how can they if all translations are written according to the writer's own beliefs and agenda... If Strong's or any other, show that things can be translated in various ways, then how does the average Christian know which way is the right way ?
    Remember Matthew 11 : 25 & 26
    At that time Jesus said in response: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. 26  Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved.
    Some of us are like young children. We are not wise and intellectual ones.  So, some of us need TRUTH to be simple. But 'religions' have made TRUTH to be difficult. 'Religions' have added burdens to even basic Bible study, by not translating it truthfully. Because 'religions' all follow their own agenda. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from BroRando in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    Promoting your books again. It seems that is all you are here for. 
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