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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Anna in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    @JW Insiderthank you for all the references to quotes and photos of quotes. A lot of work there. I think you deserve to pour yourself a drink now!
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Like the Days of Noah...   
    And what do you think this has to do with me ? 
    I have not denied Almighty God or Jesus Christ.  I study God's written word and also pray to him. 
    I have strong faith in God through Christ. And I do not guess at dates that are none of my business. 
    I do not try to mislead others. I am not after followers for myself. 
    The fact that I give warning about the JW Org having Pedophiles in it, and that Child Sexual Abuse takes place in it, this cannot be a bad warning to people. 
    And the fact that I do not believe your GB are the F&DS has no bearing on my love for God or Christ. 
    Jesus made a point of telling His disciples not to make names for themselves and not to place themselves above others. 
    Unfortunately you seem to think that the Watchtower/JW Org replace God and Christ. You seem to be worshipping your  Organisations and your GB, or pretendig to do so. 
    I do wonder if you are actually a JW at all. Or if you are deliberately trying to bring shame on that Organisation. That is exactly what Billythe Kid and others tried to do, and Billy also used  this way of trying to condemn me. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to BroRando in Like the Days of Noah...   
    Was Judas Iscariot forgiven? Nope!
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Like the Days of Noah...   
    I will not be drawn out on this issue. I do not want some one to use it as an excuse to remove me from here. 
    My point about those two early Christians was that they disagreed, went seperate ways, but still forgave each other. 
    Indeed Christians can break and some do. However having left the JW Org I feel spiritually stronger because i have to 'go it alone' as far as people are concerned. My faith in God through Christ is stronger and that is what matters to me. 
    Have a good day.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    It is. You needlessly complicate it by being overly exacting, excessively unforgiving, and too enamored with your own righteousness.
    “NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?”
    They can’t. They need a True Anointed to explain everything. In the meantime, it’s important not to do anything except complain.
    Whatever happened to “Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door?” (Luke 13:24) He didn’t say wait for the doorman to ease your way in.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Space Merchant in Like the Days of Noah...   
    According to Scripture, the troubling events before the conclusion of the End Times, which is why it correlates with why Noah's Day is the focus point. For in his day, people heard the message and did not pay it any mind until the Great Flood. This, as stated to JB, is akin to present day in which the same mentality and action is taking place, even concerning the gospel, like in Noah's Day, people react as they are, some listen, some do not.
    Not knowing the day, is fine, for it keeps one on their feet in the faith so they do not stumble, and for those who stumble, they can stand back up (Proverbs 24:16). Not to mention that God's Christ instructed the preaching of the gospel, so it is a call for us to take total seriousness in the Great Commission, something of which a few cannot do properly and or ignore it altogether, as to others, they understand the Commission, but preaching things outside of core Christian teachings. The Gospel, is to be shared with all, men, women, and children, even of other faiths should they be misguided in the Christianity of Constantine, in addition to that, what JB cannot understand is, the backgrounds and culture of everyone is different, so you cannot simply go about to preach to so and so, so one would need to apply Apostle Paul's example as shown in 1 Corinthians 9:19-23.
    Emotion in this sense results in people giving into their own misgivings. Like that of Anakin becoming Vader, it was, in this analogy, one going berserk in their own feelings thus being in total disregard to even to a pebble of truth.
    Men are imperfect, at times they do not know what they are doing at times until it becomes a reality and or until they find some positive resolve. Something of which I deal with for a while now when aiding to a community I have been a part of for sometime. Some of the people, mainly children, got it rough, the reach one teach one solution is beneficial. Such ones also rejoice in principles from Scripture that helps them become better too.
    As I pointed out to JB, JWs and a few others bring up 2034 time and time again in regards to events of the End Times, to others, Jesus' return, to some, God's Day, but going with Noah's Day, it seems to equate more to events to come as pointed out, more so, in turns of warning before anything big beyond our knowing comes to pass.
    The irony of all this is that the United Nations have plans for the 2030s. Granted with the pandemic ongoing, people do not pay attention to their movements. Babylon isn't too far behind.
    As I told @Arauna some Christians, concerning persecution, can break like glass smashing against a stone if they are not strong enough, and knowing the history of your faith with the Nazis, it wouldn't be surprise some fall prior to any events and or God's Day. I say this because of what Babylon the Great did in 2016 with just Mainstream Christianity alone. And of course when friends and family becoming foes, in the coming days.
    Many of us Truthers know this, even the late Solider of God, who he himself is chosen, said this. This is why it is wise to know who is friend or foe in those days when people can easily become weak.
    That being said, 2034 has been talked about by many, a few times on CSE it was brought up, even by, surpassingly, Catholics, 2034 Easter celebration, for them they are looking at April 9, 2034.
     
    Not important but there was a 3 way wrestling match with LDS/JWs/Ex-JWs from 2004 I found, which talks about 2034, and the article in question I cited to @Patiently waiting for Truth as cited here - https://www.christianforums.com/threads/i-know-nothing-about-jw.722579/page-5
    Some Mainstream Christians saw 2034 as the second coming, as cited here; although they added things here that do not make sense, let alone the claim of being inspired:
    If my dream was from God, and I believe it was, then it means that Jesus is returning around the year 2034 which is about fourteen years from now! Hallelujah. Now, let us do the maths of this dream. Because her baby who is nine months old in 2020 was about twelve years old in the dream, we must add about eleven to the year 2020. This takes us to about 2031. Further recall that in this dream the Anti-Christ had about three and a half years before Jesus’ return. So, to the year about 2031, we must add three and a half years. This takes us to about 2034/5! My dream was in 2014. It pointed to about 2034 as the year Jesus would return. Elizabeth’s dream was also in 2014; it also pointed to about 2034. Six years later in 2020, Esther who did not know the details of either mine or Elizabeth’s dream also had a dream that pointed her to about 2035. Is this all just coincidence? Or could it be that the Devil is ‘playing’ with the three of us? Most probably not. (source) So many people are waiting, even elderly folks. But as stated, I do not think it has anything pertaining to God's Day of which we do not know.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Space Merchant in Like the Days of Noah...   
    You give up when someone checks you. I refute because you refuse to understand what is mentioned, and you do not adhere to context, this goes back to you not knowing what a man girdled up actually met, likewise with anything pertaining to Strong's.
    For a man who seeks God, perhaps take your head out of the jar of which your former faith is, and actually do the research; when you asked about "Core Teachings of Christianity", the answer to that was of total seriousness.
    That being said, that comment of yours can easily be reverse uno-carded back to you with one link. So thread carefully - and clearly with everything and anything you uttered, is in the deck in question.
    That being said, Jesus was a sympathetic person, he does not shift himself, likewise to those who express the same towards him, willing to listen. They do not shift like the sea after a few moments - Hebrews 4:15.
    We're not talking about inspiration. We are talking about opinions and facts here, and you are only repeating yourself.
    Let's take Jehovah's Witnesses out of the equation - How did you confuse, and or not discern the difference Traditions of Men vs. Christian Traditions? Someone who understands context, and all facts pertaining to Scripture would easily be able to discern what is what, and why this is, and how something has come to be.
    Clearly if one has the spirit, they would not go on a tangent of something that can be discerned quickly.
    JB, we all read what Rando has said. I merely pointed out that others, even modern day Bible Students mentioned that year in relations to events. Noticed you left that part out.
    SM -  it isn't too far-fetched because although not anything pertaining to God's Day, there are those who hold an expectation of something that is to take place in 2034, series of events
    So much so both Reslite and JWI were mentioned, as is cited - which you could have easily skipped to that and read it.
    Now, you are now confusing the events concerning fulfillment in connection with the Christ with God's Day. If you read what Reslite and JWI mentioned, you would not interject with your own assumption - as stated, going upon your own opinions can be dangerous, in this case, damaging towards you.
    Examples below:
    JWI - However, there were a few months between November 1913 and July 1914 when Russell admitted that he was questioning his own expectations about 1914, and he even suggested that perhaps things could just go on for another century, and he wondered what people might think of all these predictions "100 years from now" (which would be 2014). Another time he mentioned what things might still be like if the time of trouble went on for 120 years (which would bring one to 2034).... Russell did not really think anything specific was supposed to happen in either 2014 or 2034. Russell gave no specific significance to those periods except to make the point that he no longer had as much confidence in the 1914 date.
    Reslite - Nevertheless, when viewed from God’s standpoint, we are still “shortly after” 1914. Although Russell himself did not think the time of trouble would be this long, he did allow that it could be. Some Bible Students believe that it is possible that the time allotted for this period is 120 years (1914+120=2034), but that these days will be “cut short” some time before they are allowed to reach their end.
    That being said, you quoting Mark 13:32 (rf. Matt. 24:36, Mark 13:31, Acts 1:7), this is concerning God's Day, for if you forgot, it is in regards to Armageddon.
    In Rando's case, the 120 year is in connection with Genesis 6:3-4, concerning Noah's Day into the 1914 notation held by JWs.
    Do you hold on to that statement boldly? Because all your remarks, claims, assumptions and the like including reactions can be cited.
    If that was the case, that sympathetic counsel from before would have stuck instead of you going around it as, showing that fact that it met nothing.
    You are woefully incorrect, for not too long ago a meme made made you react in this manner. All the other things, even the citation from the FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation) resulted in you making a similar claim as to what you said in regards to the meme.
    For if none of such were true, I would not make such a statement.
    All I need is a quote and a link, as with the other remark.
    That isn't assertiveness. Being assertive is finding the right balance between passivity and aggression. It means having a strong sense of oneself and your value, and acknowledging that one deserve to get what they sought after, achieving. If you were true to your own words, as stated before a meme would not cause you to react in that manner, an assertive person would simply brush it off, and not shut himself away from something so minor and meaningless.
    This isn't a judgement, it is clear discernment. If someone reacts in such a manner, and in their choice of words, it shows, thus all remarks in this regard is true.
    I haven't chosen to "hound you" I corrected you on a few Strong's then you added tacked on all the other stuff, knowing that I'd respond to it, as seen on page 5. It is already known by you how I am with Strong's.
    It isn't about Tom or Arauna. It is about the FACTS. I mentioned them because you are always intertwined with them in nearly all discussion, even for the period of absence.
    Going back to page 1 regarding Noah's Day, you claim of assertiveness is pretty much null too due to you even mentioning Arauna when it was not necessary to do so, and this was not the first time, you do this with others.
    Your issue is, you want everything to be as so, no one to show factual information and to accept as is. Truthers do not run with that mindset, mainly to those who relentlessly defend Scripture and core teachings and practices of the apostolic church, as is, with calling out those who speak misconception of someone or something.
    Discernment tells a different story, hence why I uphold 1 John 4:1. Jesus always wants his followers to be truthful. It is problematic to answer to falsehood and professing it, likewise to go about things deemed unproven, such as you not really knowing what the term Tradition of Men is, and equating it to something else. More so, you being a former Jehovah's Witness, who do not even know as to how your own operate in a setting where people of different backgrounds and culture react to someone who isn't like them.
    That being said, do the research and look into all sources of information in regards to what Rando is talking about. If you did your DD, you find this - Watchtower 2003 December 15 pp.14-19 Our Watchfulness Takes On Greater Urgency [https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2003923]
    Regarding the Jehovah's Witnesses, this is where the viewpoint originated from concerning events; warning signs of the End Times, according to them.
    EDIT:
    Ah yes there it is, the reaction. latter is null, which was proven once again.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Like the Days of Noah...   
    @BroRando  You are funny. You are good for a laugh, but, you cannot be taken seriously because of your attitude. 
    Yes, each day we get a day closer to Armageddon, of course we do. And i don't deny we are living in the 'time of the end'.
    But what I will not do is to put a date on it.  And as the scripture tells us "Unless those days were cut short, then no flesh would be saved". 
    Now either Almighty God or Jesus Christ, has to decide when those days must be cut short. 
    As for 1914, that was 'thrown out the window' years ago. You are just living in the past. 
    You are of course entitled to your own opinion about 2034. But you must question yourself as to whether God or Christ has given you the right to spread that rumour to bring trouble to other people.  You could well be seen as a stumbling block as mentioned in Luke 17 : 1 & 2. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in Like the Days of Noah...   
    Maybe what Rando is doing is just an overreaction, similar to the ones about 1914, 1918/19, 1925, 1941, 1975 and everything/all other after that?  
    WTJWorg eschatology in action. 
    Certainly, people will eat, drink, marry, build and plant. Some/many of them will be struck by trouble, because trouble is a part of life in the world as we know it. Some of the troubles that have happened or are happening today, have been / are at the local or even global area / level. This allows for interpretations / overreactions followed by disappointments many times over. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Pudgy in Like the Days of Noah...   
    @BroRando  You are funny. You are good for a laugh, but, you cannot be taken seriously because of your attitude. 
    Yes, each day we get a day closer to Armageddon, of course we do. And i don't deny we are living in the 'time of the end'.
    But what I will not do is to put a date on it.  And as the scripture tells us "Unless those days were cut short, then no flesh would be saved". 
    Now either Almighty God or Jesus Christ, has to decide when those days must be cut short. 
    As for 1914, that was 'thrown out the window' years ago. You are just living in the past. 
    You are of course entitled to your own opinion about 2034. But you must question yourself as to whether God or Christ has given you the right to spread that rumour to bring trouble to other people.  You could well be seen as a stumbling block as mentioned in Luke 17 : 1 & 2. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in Did the Apostle Paul Have A Dog?   
    Everything described about Paul was "unlikely".
    EVERYTHING!
    ...but those things DID happen.
    An analysis of times and distances and practical considerations could NOT hurt anyone that is not cemented into agenda driven thinking.
    By trying to tell a coherent story, often glaring misconceptions can be corrected, as either a scenario holds up under examination and extrapolation .... or it does not.
    ...like a good detective that builds many scenarios, to see what makes the most sense.

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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Melinda Mills in Did the Apostle Paul Have A Dog?   
    Dogs were ceremonially unclean animals and not likely to have been pets in Jewish homes.  They were wild carnivorous animals.  Job a non-Jew had flocks of dogs, but none are mentioned among Jewish shepherds.
    Look it it in the Insight Book.  
    Paul was from Jewish background, so his customs would have been Jewish, although later he came to embrace all nations of men.  It would be unlikely that Paul would have been accompanied by something revolting to the Jews.  He had enough problems already and a dog accompanying him would not have helped. 
    Interesting, but not particularly beneficial to pursue this.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in Did the Apostle Paul Have A Dog?   
    Did the Apostle Paul Have A Dog?
    The other day, I was thinking about the wonderful relationship humans and canines have, and the thought occurred to me that the Apostle Paul may have been very, very lonely, all those days and nights walking along dusty roads all over Asia, and wherever his travels led him, and I tried to visualize what he did from day to day, night to night ... where he ate, where he slept, all manner of personal hygiene, how he handled sickness, sunburn, cut feet, avoiding ruffians, bullys and highwaymen seeking to rob and kill him. Perhaps along the way he acquired a dog to go along with him, and watch over him as he slept along the side of the road, in the grass, and dirt, the rain and mud.
    Then I started thinking about his ministry, how many Bible studies he might have had, and how he walked such great distances in such a short period of time, and I could not visualize hm making more than three speeches in any one town before moving on to the next town.
    Perhaps someone smarter than me can "reconstruct" a possible log of his daily activities .... might even make a really good novel ... THE ADVENTURES OF PAUL!", if the extrapolations totally agreed with everything that was stated in the Bible about his travels and there were no contradictions.
    I hope it would make sense under critical examination .... not something akin to "fighting WWII in three weeks" .... and if possible, somehow work into the plot that at least that Paul had for some time, the companionship of a dog.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to BroRando in Like the Days of Noah...   
    What question was Jesus answering?   “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?”
    You still don't know the sign?  Now that's funny.  I imagine you as a blind man trying to turn on the light switch when the light is already on....  I Love It!
    Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.
    Yet the time limit was already embedded in prophecy in the Book of Daniel...  1914
    Jesus goes on and says... For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be.  For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the Presence of the Son of man will be.
    hehehe.. he is blind and stumbling around bumping into things, he then curses other people because he is blind....  it's an allotment of time.  Give him the answers and he would still fail the test.  This is  grrrreat!!!   That's why it doesn't matter if Satan has the answers... HE CAN'T SEE....
    It's Spiritual....  2034 will come and go and those outside our inner rooms will be dying the second death of everlasting destruction... that is Armageddon!  Destroyed as with Fire... but they will still complain to their end....  😖
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Pudgy in Can You Answer? Who made this statement?   
    Oh James, you just cannot keep away from them cartoons can you. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Can You Answer? Who made this statement?   
    Oh James, you just cannot keep away from them cartoons can you. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from BroRando in Christ Divinity Explained in John 1:1c   
    It would seem that everyone judges. A person has to judge each religion against God's written word, otherwise how would a person chose to be part of one religion. Certainly the Watchtower / JW Org has many times passed judgement against the Catholic church. And constantly on this forum people judge Trinitarians and others. 
    However  it seems that only when the Watchtower / JW Org is being judged, someone will bring out this type of scripture. 
    In fact this scripture when viewed in a positive light can be useful. 
    for with the judgment you are judging, you will be judged, So, if we judge by the standards of God through Christ, then we will be judged by the standards of God through Christ.  I'm happy with that. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in Christ Divinity Explained in John 1:1c   
    The judge, is the word of Jesus Christ, which I provided for you.  
    "The one who rejects me and does not accept my words has one who judges him; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day."   John 12:48
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to BroRando in Christ Divinity Explained in John 1:1c   
    7 “Stop judginga that you may not be judged;b 2  for with the judgment you are judging, you will be judged,c and with the measure that you are measuring out, they will measure out to you.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in Christ Divinity Explained in John 1:1c   
    Thank you.  That’s a good scripture because Jesus was setting the example for all of us to show humility, not to consider ourselves more important than our neighbor. He was setting the standard for his disciples to follow.  (Phil 2:7,8; 2 Cor 8:9) 
    But God said, “this is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased”; basically saying, Jesus was “good” in the eyes of God.  Matt 3:17
    Jesus once told his disciples - “The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them, and those who have authority over them are called benefactors (“very important people”)  26 But you are not to be like this! But the one who is greatest among you must become like the youngest, and the one who leads like the one who serves. 27 For who is greater, the one who reclines at the table or the one who serves? Is it not the one who reclines at the table? But I am in your midst as the one who serves. Luke 22:25-27
    I think you will agree that the anointed are spiritual “Jews” (Rom 2:29); those not anointed are “Gentiles”.  The Gentile elders who rule over JWs could be considered “kings” because they “represent the royal priesthood” – a priesthood of kings.  1 Pet 2:5,9; Rev 5:9,10
    The benefactors – very important people -  have authority over the kings. The GB would fill that role, since they direct the elders and the organization as a whole.  (Rev 13:11,12)
    The scenario that Jesus described is the organization, its rulership and how it runs.  Men have titled themselves as trustworthy according to God, and as “faithful and discreet slaves”.  They have gone so far to assume elders have Holy Spirit, only by following scriptures that actually apply to the anointed.   All other anointed servants/slaves of Christ must obey them – even you, unless you are an elder.  The very important people have the authority to tell the elder body, to rule over the anointed and JWs in general.  Would you say that by adopting a title of “faithful and discreet”, and applying it to themselves shows that these men are “good”, or “bad”?  There are JWs here who believe they are good.  But who is to determine if they are?  Themselves - the GB -  which appears to be the case?  (Matt 25:21; Rom 14:4)
    From what I see, your governing leaders have decided that they are good without hearing so, from Jesus Christ and the Father.  However, according to Jesus, this arrangement is not acceptable to him or to the Father.  “But you are not to be like this!” Luke 22:26
    Will JWs apply these words of Jesus, or will they submit to men who confidently believe that they will be whisked off to rule with Christ, when your Armageddon erupts?
     Will you choose the words of Jesus over the words of men?  Will you call them “good teachers”?
    For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”  Luke 14:21
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in Can You Answer? Who made this statement?   
    That one Scripture there DESTROYS the Trinity.
    Since I am a cartoon dog, I recognize other explanations .....

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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to BroRando in Christ Divinity Explained in John 1:1c   
    Are you now denying that Jesus is the faithful and true witness, "the Beginning of Creation" at Rev 3:14? Since Jesus was brought forth (begotten), then at one time he did not exist.  
    Jehovah produced me as the beginning of his way, The earliest of his achievements of long ago. From ancient times I was installed, From the start, from times earlier than the earth. When there were no deep waters, I was brought forth, When there were no springs overflowing with water. Before the mountains were set in place, Before the hills, I was brought forth, When he had not yet made the earth and its fields Or the first clods of earth’s soil. When he prepared the heavens, I was there; When he marked out the horizon on the surface of the waters, When he established the clouds above, When he founded the fountains of the deep, When he set a decree for the sea That its waters should not pass beyond his order, When he established the foundations of the earth, Then I was beside him as a master worker and was the one he was especially fond of day by day; rejoiced before him all the time; I rejoiced over his habitable earth, And I was especially fond of the sons of men. (Proverbs 8:22-31) 
    This is how Jesus became known as the Son of Man.... God is not the Son of man. (Numbers 23:19)
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to JW Insider in Christ Divinity Explained in John 1:1c   
    You offered 3 scriptures so far, and you could easily find more. For every one of them, there are at least twice as many that refer to Jehovah God the Almighty Father, with the same supposedly "feminine" nouns. You are playing with the kind of Talmudic "wordplay" that Jewish rabbis got caught up in for many centuries. Whether a word ends up being masculine, feminine or neutral in a language is not part of any divine plan or purpose. In general, Hebrew and Greek and German and many other languages that split words into "genders," will tend to treat attributes, concepts, ideas, and qualities as "feminine" more often than as "masculine," but not always.
    As a basis for any doctrinal support, this is about as meaningless as saying that a bed or couch is "feminine," just because the Hebrew word is "feminine." Or that a table is "masculine" just because the Hebrew word is "masculine." Or that a lampstand is "feminine." Or that rain, snow, hail and cloud are "masculine." But "rainbow" and "wind" (and therefore also "spirit") is "feminine."
    A man's birthright (like the one Jacob wanted to buy from Esau) is "feminine."
    Even though a bull is obviously masculine, both male and female cattle (or beasts) are referred to with a feminine noun. That includes the great Behemoth in Job, or when Nebuchadnezzar is referred to:
    (Daniel 4:16) Let the heart of a beast (feminine) be given to him. And it's the same "feminine" word for beast used everywhere else, including here:
    (Daniel 7:19) . . . the fourth beast (feminine), which was different from all the others; it was extraordinarily fearsome, with iron teeth and copper claws, and it was devouring and crushing, and trampling down what was left with its feet; There was nothing especially "feminine" about Behemoth, or Nebuchadnezzar, or the fearsome fourth beast with iron teeth and copper claws.
    And there is nothing especially "feminine" about Jehovah God, even though he is described as the Creator (feminine), and in the Beginning (feminine), and a God of Salvation (feminine), and a God of Jealousy (feminine), and God of Greatness (feminine).
    And there is nothing especially "masculine" about the female breast or bosom, and yet the word for a female breast is masculine.
    (Ruth 4:16) Na·oʹmi took the child and held him to her bosom [masculine], and she cared for him.
    If Jesus is the firstborn of all creation, then he is the firstborn from the viewpoint of the father of all creation; the Creator himself; which would just as easily suggest that Jehovah is feminine. And he isn't.
    The Word (masculine) was in the beginning (feminine). But it wasn't just the Word associated with Creation and with the Beginning. What about Genesis 1:1?
    (Genesis 1:1) In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
    The beginning is associated with whom? God. The creation is associated with whom? God.
    You could do this for 100 other scriptures. Jehovah's qualities are described very similarly to the qualities seen in Jesus.
    Think about Hebrew and Greek word genders in about the same way that you would think of German word genders. A common example is the typical set of eating utensils. A spoon is masculine, a fork is feminine, and a knife is neuter (neutral).
    der Löffel (the spoon), die Gabel (the fork) das Messer (the knife) Why should a spoon be masculine, a fork feminine, and a knife neuter? ("Neuter" means neutral gender here, not the implication about knives in Galatians 5:12.)
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Ron Rhodes: Christian Author Offers Views on Bible Prophecy, End Times   
    Your GB are not part of the Faithful and Discreet Slave either, in fact by their actions and writings none of the Watchtower / JW Org leaders have been. 
    And Russell's, International Bible Students Association, seems to still exist, even though Rutherford 'stole' the Watchtower and branched out to form his own religion which he named JWs.  
    Russell was not preparing the way. He didn't even want an organization. And he didn't want Rutherford taking over either. So your idea of Russell preparing the way falls flat on it's face. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Ron Rhodes: Christian Author Offers Views on Bible Prophecy, End Times   
    But by writing that you are saying that Russell was not inspired by God's Holy Spirit. Nor was he guided by it. 
    You are basically saying that Russell 'jumped on the bandwagon' with the many Christian denominations. 
    Being wrong as an individual is one thing, but putting it in print to 'guide' the people toward God is surely wrong.  
    Part of the world then. A long way from serving God properly. It's quite strange as I've always thought that Russell was very much an 'individual' and that he turned his back on most teachings of other Christian denominations.  But here it seems he followed the crowd. 
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