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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Which method of execution is accurate and true? A or B?   
    Next he said to Thomas: “Put your finger here, and see my hands,
    When Jesus said HANDS he meant hands. 
    And do you think Thomas didn't know how Jesus was killed ?
    Thomas said HANDS which is plural and NAILS  which is plural.  Not ONE nail through the wrists. 
    The Watchtower were /are just looking for ways to pretend to be different and trying to pretend they are clever. 
    But instead the Watchtower tell lies and deceive people. I'm sure there is a scripture about false prophets producing signs and wonders. Each and every lie the GB / Org tell is just more blasphemy, and they will pay the price. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Which method of execution is accurate and true? A or B?   
    I sent a letter to the London Bethel concerning this and they basically told me to mind my own business and not to bother them. A horrible reply from so called 'brothers' in London.
    The reason I sent the letter was concerning that Watchtower picture ( on the right ) which is totally wrong. 
    John 20 :  NWT.
    24  But Thomas, one of the Twelve, who was called the Twin, was not with them when Jesus came. 25  So the other disciples were telling him: “We have seen the Lord!” But he said to them: “Unless I see in his hands the print of the nails and stick my finger into the print of the nails and stick my hand into his side, I will never believe it.” 26  Well, eight days later his disciples were again indoors, and Thomas was with them. Jesus came, although the doors were locked, and he stood in their midst and said: “May you have peace.” 27  Next he said to Thomas: “Put your finger here, and see my hands, and take your hand and stick it into my side, and stop doubting but believe.”
    It seems that Watchtower writers / artists and the GB, DO NOT KNOW HANDS FROM WRISTS, AND DO NOT KNOW PLURAL FROM SINGULAR. 
    And when I wrote to London Bethel they did not want to know either. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Space Merchant in Like the Days of Noah...   
    I told you before, you even mentioning me, it will only yield a response.
    Rubbish as in how?  If you are going to make a claim, provide evidence - to that I will wait. I find that as a bold claim because everything I post is always Bible related or to the subject matter, even secondary subjects, and at times I quote and or paraphrase people if need be. In fact, half the information I pulled were some of the things you said actually in the past. That is the irony here, you were the one asking these things, and it didn't take long for you to repeat yourself.
    The subject matter was solely about Noah's day, and how today equates to that, however, you simply brought up the similar narratives.
    But you do follow certain things to cloud your judgment, hence your reaction in regards to the same people, even when correct, you react, even when a minor joke, you react, the very reason you were always, and will be linked with JB because the reaction and responses are always identical, in this case when it comes to Greek Grammar of not realizing religious office within a church, even of the first century.
    But you have not changed, expect the fact by name only, which I discovered recently until now after quoting you; only one person refers to me as "S M" with a space.
    And this is the problem, it is already known that you stand alone by me and of God and Christ, but you still fall victim to many things, even misinformation. You can disagree with some notations, which no one takes issue with, but it is added information that equates to nothing at times, which results in you dealing with, what I can assume are rivals and even now, after return I still see that has not changed, this show proves me case.
    Yes, no man needs approve from any man, but even a man knows they can be checked and or counseled at times. Since Paul is mentioned time and time here, Paul himself publicly rebuked Peter regarding public sin, which caused Paul to speak to him, both men of God and of Christ, and one is giving the other one counsel regarding his mishap - keep that in mind.
    That being said, in regards to the Steward comment, it was 100% correct. No violation to the Greek text, therefore, it does not go around what is written (Deut. 4:2) - that command, by no means, is rubbish.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in Like the Days of Noah...   
    What can I say? Give him another upvote. He’s improving.
    Tom, is it an ‘enemy of my enemy is my friend’ kind of thing?
    Well, I wouldn’t go that far.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in Like the Days of Noah...   
    True - I do not take you guys seriously at all.  I like to learn new things all the time but for a reasonable time now there are only OCD echo's and very little to really think or talk  about or learn.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Like the Days of Noah...   
    No thank you. Just the look of that page / blog makes me shudder. It would be out of the frying pan and in to the fire. 
    I do not believe most things that you write, even though some on here try to link me with you...
    We each have our own belief and I know exactly what I'm hoping for.  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from TheWorldNewsOrg in Nuclear War: Another Reason to Hold Bitcoin over Gold   
    I've just been reading, here in England, that the UK plan on making BRIT Coin. I don't know if it's a joke or not. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Space Merchant in Like the Days of Noah...   
    They won't change. I even challenged one in particular in this regard - and the fact I return here, months later, the person did nothing - ironically. At least at the time, Rook, himself actually did something about a sensitive topic mentioned time and time again here, and I commemorate him for that, and the community of which I was invited to and helping in the time of absence included his input with what was gathered originally.
    The problem is, those who are so boiled in their emotions cannot truly be reasoned with. At times they will mix and or use events thus becoming one sided at times and can never hear both sides, or even try to come to a common ground and or conclusion; hence similar topics over the years. They come to assumptions, even from stupid things, only to shy away like church mice when they cannot prove something, and if proven incorrect, they wipe their evidence by deleting their threads and or posts. They rejoice over something, and do not realize a problem that they didn't see coming, and should you ask them about it, they say nothing. It is one of those issues that even the one who calls himself chosen took issue with here.
    That being said, because of all this, intertwined with the pandemic, as I, Rook, and the one who claims to be chosen were correct - Their numbers who be reduced because they make up that branch of folks spoken of in Mainstream Christendom, as is with former members; all reduced.
    Edit - as you can see, the latter even laughs at what he speaks out against - a sensitive topic.
     
    @TrueTomHarley Perhaps more hate than Darth Vader himself. When one succumbs to hate, they are beyond reason.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in Like the Days of Noah...   
    I assure you, all of it is happening.  The spiritual food offered on the blog link below,  is presented by an inspired servant of God and Jesus Christ, a "Jew" under the New Covenant.  Knowing truth and understanding of the last days, takes some work on our part.    God provides it if we sincerely ask, but sometimes out of our desire to see things develop as we envision they should, we may miss the door already opened to us, by Christ. 
     “Ask, and it will be given to you. Seek, and you will find. Knock, and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened"  Matt 7:7,8
    https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in Like the Days of Noah...   
    Many doctrines and expectations that were and still are a product and fruit of WTJWorg theology belong to the group of “rumors”. For everything they claimed to be or will be the result of their beliefs and hopes and expectations and interpretations, and in fact disappeared with the sun’s rays of a new day, it falls under “rumors”.
    Consequently , the instruction given from the podium of the JW Congress or otherwise, is aimed at themselves, against themselves, and not at the ex-JW and / or apostates.
    Unfortunately, “fried/burnt/cauterized brain” is a feature of most JW members, as it prevents them from seeing what is behind the visible and declarative.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in Like the Days of Noah...   
    Of course - and it is spot-on.  Most apostates suffer from this compulsive behaviour of hate for everything to do with JWs. It is totally irrational and all answers are the same.... motivated by hate.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Like the Days of Noah...   
    And you always say that I judge people ?????  But You still cannot understand, or do not want to understand, the huge difference between GOD, and the Watchtower/JW Org.  It's just like someone saying that if YOU oppose the Catholic church then you are opposing God. Just because a man, Rutherford, put a name on His Organisation, JWs, it does not make it God's real organisation.  The Watchtower/JW Org has proven to be immoral and to tell lies.  That isn't just my opinion, it has actually been proven in court cases and by God's own written word. 
    hence the term given to them: Hate-OCD  That term comes from YOU, no one else. It is your way of blinding yourself.  Because you are frightened of the truth. You put up this wall OCD, so you don't have to consider other people's comments or ideas. It's a bit like blocking someone, but you do it mentally and emotionally. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Like the Days of Noah...   
    You should know exactly what I'm wanting to see. I've made it clear plenty of times .
     Zechariah 8:23
    Berean Study Bible
    This is what the LORD of Hosts says: “In those days ten men from the nations of every tongue will tightly grasp the robe of a Jew, saying, ‘Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.’
    Everyone needs to know exactly who these spiritual Jews are, before Armageddon comes.. 
    Acts 2:17 
    Berean Study Bible
    ‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out My Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.
    This needs to happen before Armageddon. 
    It's not too much to ask  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in Like the Days of Noah...   
    You are kind to say this!  I think most here know exactly the reasons but CHOOSE to remain obtuse because they have reached a stage in life where they oppose everything to do with Jehovah and his people.  They are irrational and nasty.... hence the term given to them: Hate-OCD.  They do not come here to learn but to divide and conquer! .... Unfortunately not for Jehovah. They have the same spirit the Pharisees had.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Like the Days of Noah...   
    Oh dear the GB have certainly brainwashed many JWs.  And even an outsider, who's words i don't even bother to read, jumps on the bandwagon.
    The Apostle PAUL, was completely separate from those 'superfine apostles' and it was PAUL that was chosen to write all those letters to the congregations. 
    Acts 15 is the ONLY case that anyone can use as an excuse to pretend that everyone was controlled by a single body of men. Paul certainly wasn't controlled by them.......... 
    BUT you all miss the point. GOVERNING BODY. It proves they want control. To Govern. And they use the Elders as Policemen to enforce the GB Rules. Rules and traditions of men. And to disfellowship people that they do not like, not sinners as such, just people they do not want, including victims of CSA. 
    I think those Apostles in the 1st century said " The Holy Spirit and we, will add NO FURTHER BURDEN TO YOU" 
    Whereas the Leaders of the Watchtower / JW Org continue to produce rules and burdens. 
    A complete opposite to what Jesus recommended.   Jesus told the apostles not to be like the nations, not to rule it over others.  But your GB make sure that every JW knows that they are the GOVERNING BODY, and that the Elders MUST BE OBEYED too.  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Which method of execution is accurate and true? A or B?   
    I sent a letter to the London Bethel concerning this and they basically told me to mind my own business and not to bother them. A horrible reply from so called 'brothers' in London.
    The reason I sent the letter was concerning that Watchtower picture ( on the right ) which is totally wrong. 
    John 20 :  NWT.
    24  But Thomas, one of the Twelve, who was called the Twin, was not with them when Jesus came. 25  So the other disciples were telling him: “We have seen the Lord!” But he said to them: “Unless I see in his hands the print of the nails and stick my finger into the print of the nails and stick my hand into his side, I will never believe it.” 26  Well, eight days later his disciples were again indoors, and Thomas was with them. Jesus came, although the doors were locked, and he stood in their midst and said: “May you have peace.” 27  Next he said to Thomas: “Put your finger here, and see my hands, and take your hand and stick it into my side, and stop doubting but believe.”
    It seems that Watchtower writers / artists and the GB, DO NOT KNOW HANDS FROM WRISTS, AND DO NOT KNOW PLURAL FROM SINGULAR. 
    And when I wrote to London Bethel they did not want to know either. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Which method of execution is accurate and true? A or B?   
    Next he said to Thomas: “Put your finger here, and see my hands,
    When Jesus said HANDS he meant hands. 
    And do you think Thomas didn't know how Jesus was killed ?
    Thomas said HANDS which is plural and NAILS  which is plural.  Not ONE nail through the wrists. 
    The Watchtower were /are just looking for ways to pretend to be different and trying to pretend they are clever. 
    But instead the Watchtower tell lies and deceive people. I'm sure there is a scripture about false prophets producing signs and wonders. Each and every lie the GB / Org tell is just more blasphemy, and they will pay the price. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Which method of execution is accurate and true? A or B?   
    It seems that Watchtower writers / artists and the GB, DO NOT KNOW HANDS FROM WRISTS, AND DO NOT KNOW PLURAL FROM SINGULAR. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Which method of execution is accurate and true? A or B?   
    Next he said to Thomas: “Put your finger here, and see my hands,
    When Jesus said HANDS he meant hands. 
    And do you think Thomas didn't know how Jesus was killed ?
    Thomas said HANDS which is plural 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Like the Days of Noah...   
    Oh dear the GB have certainly brainwashed many JWs.  And even an outsider, who's words i don't even bother to read, jumps on the bandwagon.
    The Apostle PAUL, was completely separate from those 'superfine apostles' and it was PAUL that was chosen to write all those letters to the congregations. 
    Acts 15 is the ONLY case that anyone can use as an excuse to pretend that everyone was controlled by a single body of men. Paul certainly wasn't controlled by them.......... 
    BUT you all miss the point. GOVERNING BODY. It proves they want control. To Govern. And they use the Elders as Policemen to enforce the GB Rules. Rules and traditions of men. And to disfellowship people that they do not like, not sinners as such, just people they do not want, including victims of CSA. 
    I think those Apostles in the 1st century said " The Holy Spirit and we, will add NO FURTHER BURDEN TO YOU" 
    Whereas the Leaders of the Watchtower / JW Org continue to produce rules and burdens. 
    A complete opposite to what Jesus recommended.   Jesus told the apostles not to be like the nations, not to rule it over others.  But your GB make sure that every JW knows that they are the GOVERNING BODY, and that the Elders MUST BE OBEYED too.  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Which method of execution is accurate and true? A or B?   
    Next he said to Thomas: “Put your finger here, and see my hands,
    When Jesus said HANDS he meant hands. 
    And do you think Thomas didn't know how Jesus was killed ?
    Thomas said HANDS which is plural 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from BroRando in Which method of execution is accurate and true? A or B?   
    I sent a letter to the London Bethel concerning this and they basically told me to mind my own business and not to bother them. A horrible reply from so called 'brothers' in London.
    The reason I sent the letter was concerning that Watchtower picture ( on the right ) which is totally wrong. 
    John 20 :  NWT.
    24  But Thomas, one of the Twelve, who was called the Twin, was not with them when Jesus came. 25  So the other disciples were telling him: “We have seen the Lord!” But he said to them: “Unless I see in his hands the print of the nails and stick my finger into the print of the nails and stick my hand into his side, I will never believe it.” 26  Well, eight days later his disciples were again indoors, and Thomas was with them. Jesus came, although the doors were locked, and he stood in their midst and said: “May you have peace.” 27  Next he said to Thomas: “Put your finger here, and see my hands, and take your hand and stick it into my side, and stop doubting but believe.”
    It seems that Watchtower writers / artists and the GB, DO NOT KNOW HANDS FROM WRISTS, AND DO NOT KNOW PLURAL FROM SINGULAR. 
    And when I wrote to London Bethel they did not want to know either. 
  25. Haha
    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to BroRando in Which method of execution is accurate and true? A or B?   
    If you weren't so blinded by your unjust hatred. You could have looked up the Greek word for nails and SEEN that it actually means NAIL in singular.
    Strong's Concordance hélos: a nail Original Word: ἧλος, ου, ὁ
    Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
    Transliteration: hélos
    Phonetic Spelling: (hay'-los)
    Definition: a nail
    Usage: a nail.
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