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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from TheQuixoticTheo in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    So what does this tell us ?  It tells us that the GB are not inspired of God's Holy Spirit. It tells us that a lot of people are influenced by the GB's false teachings. And it tells us that significant changes in teachings and direction are constantly happening in the JW Org.  Did Jesus change his teachings ?  Should we change the teachings of Jesus ?  
    And you don't think a True Anointed are needed to give inspired direction ? 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from TheQuixoticTheo in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    It's quite funny to read here JWs are disagreeing with each other over many things.  Well those who say they are JWs anyway. They even disagree with each other over the history of their own religion.  Carry on folks it's good for a laugh. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from TheQuixoticTheo in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    Not true. The GB / Leaders of the multi Orgs are changing the meanings of Jesus' words. Because by changing so called 'understanding' they are changing what is being preached or taught. Hence they destroy old books and and replace with different teachings. I think they even try to pretend now that all JWs are part of the 'body of Christ'. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    It's quite funny to read here JWs are disagreeing with each other over many things.  Well those who say they are JWs anyway. They even disagree with each other over the history of their own religion.  Carry on folks it's good for a laugh. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    Not true. The GB / Leaders of the multi Orgs are changing the meanings of Jesus' words. Because by changing so called 'understanding' they are changing what is being preached or taught. Hence they destroy old books and and replace with different teachings. I think they even try to pretend now that all JWs are part of the 'body of Christ'. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    Sorry for all the smiley faces, but this is all so funny about the names and AKA's. 
    It's sad that some on here have lost family members and close friends in death. The hope of the resurrection is real of course but the loss is still heavy on the heart.  
    This is a good point from both sides. My wife and I love to be together, but apart from everyone else. We just like our time together, just the two of us. We never did like meetings, too may people, too much noise. We are not ones for going to mass gatherings. Attending assemblies, especially when the five children were young, was horrid.  So maybe we wouldn't enjoy the 'paradise' so much  .   Unless we were given a small plot of land away from 'the madding crowd'.  But then some folks on here tell me I won't get the chance anyway.................. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    It's quite funny to read here JWs are disagreeing with each other over many things.  Well those who say they are JWs anyway. They even disagree with each other over the history of their own religion.  Carry on folks it's good for a laugh. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    Not true. The GB / Leaders of the multi Orgs are changing the meanings of Jesus' words. Because by changing so called 'understanding' they are changing what is being preached or taught. Hence they destroy old books and and replace with different teachings. I think they even try to pretend now that all JWs are part of the 'body of Christ'. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    Sorry for all the smiley faces, but this is all so funny about the names and AKA's. 
    It's sad that some on here have lost family members and close friends in death. The hope of the resurrection is real of course but the loss is still heavy on the heart.  
    This is a good point from both sides. My wife and I love to be together, but apart from everyone else. We just like our time together, just the two of us. We never did like meetings, too may people, too much noise. We are not ones for going to mass gatherings. Attending assemblies, especially when the five children were young, was horrid.  So maybe we wouldn't enjoy the 'paradise' so much  .   Unless we were given a small plot of land away from 'the madding crowd'.  But then some folks on here tell me I won't get the chance anyway.................. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to JW Insider in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    Maybe you are right:
    (2 Timothy 3:13) . . .But wicked men and impostors will advance from bad to worse, misleading and being misled.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    I just noticed some newbie NoisySrecko created new account and, imagine, down-voted your comment. Must be some troll and clone who want to create chaos. :))
    Name Srecko is specific and rare even in Croatia. To use it here in a small community / forum (JW Open Club) in English language, it must be some attempt to divert attention, intent to undermine, manipulate, cast doubt, etc. Similar to when Real- JWInsider appeared. It must be how we really "living in The Last Days" :)) hehe
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Anna in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    And here is another one! (Comma in an unusual place)
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Anna in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    Always gives him away 😂
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to JW Insider in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    It truly is a ridiculous notion, but unfortunately it also happens to be a true notion.
    I have never banned anyone, nor do I wish to, nor do I have the power to do that.
    No, of course not. But you are most definitely the same person who uses the account @César Chávez, @WyattEarp @Allen_Smith, @TheNonstoptheo etc., etc.
    I am not the the Librarian. I only have one account here.
    BTW, In addition to the way your log-ins and log-outs show up in the "Recently Browsing" portion of the page, you also give "yourselves" away in several other ways, too.
    For example, look how you spelled the word "too" as "to" just on this very same page:
    Also, note your unique style of adding a few extra, unnecessary commas, which has given many people pause in almost every one of the accounts I mentioned along with about 20 additional accounts over the past few years, too.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to JW Insider in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    I was tempted to say something that might clarify that @Real-JWinsider is actually just one more "troll" persona for @Allen_Smith, @Ray Devereaux, @BillyTheKid-55, @César Chávez, @Dotlizhihii Tlenaai, @divergenceKO, @Sean Migos, etc., etc., etc., & et cetera.
    Several of his additional accounts have been used as nothing more than shills to up-vote his own accounts (and down-vote anything that exposes him). This doesn't mean everything he has said under those other accounts is wrong. Some of it has been useful and even insightful in my opinion.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED   
    I think some here may agree, that James 1:27 tells us that there is no need to join an organization where the leadership has failed at ‘bridling’ their tongue.  Their teachings, changed doctrine taught once as fact; and today’s doctrine that will change out of necessity, proves their heart is deceptive.  
    “If anyone among you thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this one’s religion is useless.”  James 1:26
    Why pursue a useless religion.
    The Bible considers deception, which is the doctrine of men that has defiled God’s Word with the word of their own, as spiritual filth. (Prov 13:5; Matt 7:15,19; 15:9; Eph 4:14,15) The anointed in the organization had truth implanted in their heart at their anointing.  (John 8:32; 1 John 2:21,27) However they are choosing the words of men, over the pure and undefiled word of God in Christ. (Lam 2:14; Matt 24:23-25)
    Again the word of the Lord came to me: 24 “Son of man, say to the land, ‘You are a land that has not been cleansed or rained on in the day of wrath.’ 25 There is a conspiracy of her prophets (GB) within her like a roaring lion tearing its prey; they devour people, take treasures and precious things and make many widows within her. 26 Her priests (elders) do violence to my law and profane my holy things (Temple/anointed/dwelling of God 1 Cor 3:16,17);
    they do not distinguish between the holy and the common; they teach that there is no difference between the unclean and the clean; and they shut their eyes to the keeping of my Sabbaths, so that I am profaned among them. 27 Her officials within her are like wolves tearing their prey; they shed blood and kill people to make unjust gain. (disfellowshipping, a spiritual “death” Rev 13:15)
    28 Her prophets whitewash these deeds for them by false visions and lying divinations. They say, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says’—when the Lord has not spoken.
     29 The people of the land practice extortion and commit robbery; they oppress the poor and needy and mistreat the foreigner, denying them justice.  Ezek 22
    “Therefore lay aside all filthiness and overflow of wickedness, and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls.”  James 1:21
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    Man of Lawlessness = Christendom?  
    2 Thess 2:1-4 - Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 
    3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 
    4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
    What is God's Temple?  I'll let you answer that:
    “The Sealing of the 144,000 Is At Hand”…
    The scriptures do indicate some insight to what he meant,  "But he was talking about the temple of his body." (John 2:21)  Notice the scripture doesn't state his fleshly body for his fleshly body was to be sacrificed once and for all time, but rather 'the temple of his body.' 
    If Jesus is the Chief Cornerstone of God's temple, then there must be other stones? The scripture gives us evidence that others are also included as God’s temple that Jesus Christ himself would raise up. "Do you not know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that the spirit of God dwells in you? (1 Corinthians 3:16)  Again, this did not happen in a 72 hour period but rather the process of raising up the foundation of the living stones began on Pentecost 33 CE. 
    The Apostle Peter referred to the temple by stating, "As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but chosen, precious to God, you yourselves as living stones are being built up into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, in order to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ." (1 Peter 2:4-5)
    Can the Body of Christ be the same as God’s temple? Yes. “Just as the body is one but has many members, and all the members of that body, although many, are one body, so too is the Christ.” (1 Cor 12:12)  "For just as we have in one body many members, but the members do not all have the same function, so we, although many, are one body in union with Christ, but individually we are members belonging to one another." (Romans 12:4) 
     So when can the 144,000 of God’s temple be raised up?
    4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
    Can you explain how Christendom will or has, "set himself up", which means "rule" over the anointed Temple of God?
    Who has authority over the anointed priesthood/Temple of God in the organization?  Who judges them, and acts as their "representative"?  Who utilizes their "clergy status" when it is convenient?
    2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 
    Do you realize that it is the Wt which asserts that the "day of the Lord" has already come? 1914.
     
     
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to BroRando in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    The understanding is that in 1919 the fiery message was given to the anointed governing body to expose Babylon's doctrines.  This fiery message did expose the trinity, eternal hellfire, and immortal soul, to the masses and the good news of God's Kingdom continues until the end comes.  However, in 1919 the angels would become the reapers to bundle up those causing stumbling to be pitched into the fiery furnace. Thus, the separation work of the weeds began in 1919 but this too has a timeline.  It looks like it will parallel the time the anointed of the remnant are summoned to heaven.
    God’s Kingdom Quietly Removes Its Enemies since 1919.... Such ones are already dying the second death of everlasting destruction.  That is where their gnashing of teeth will be... 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to BroRando in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    These things are no longer a future event but have been happening since 1914. Why?  Al l the tribes of the earth are beating beat themselves in grief.  Better times are ahead but not for everyone. Look at the signs that are actually manifestations of Christ's Presence. Even the FDS has a timeline. 1919 to 2039 page 11 of the eBook entitled The Sealing of the 144,000 ....
    Read the rest of the article.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Anna in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    We're not changing any teachings silly, we are changing our understanding of them. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    So what does this tell us ?  It tells us that the GB are not inspired of God's Holy Spirit. It tells us that a lot of people are influenced by the GB's false teachings. And it tells us that significant changes in teachings and direction are constantly happening in the JW Org.  Did Jesus change his teachings ?  Should we change the teachings of Jesus ?  
    And you don't think a True Anointed are needed to give inspired direction ? 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    So what does this tell us ?  It tells us that the GB are not inspired of God's Holy Spirit. It tells us that a lot of people are influenced by the GB's false teachings. And it tells us that significant changes in teachings and direction are constantly happening in the JW Org.  Did Jesus change his teachings ?  Should we change the teachings of Jesus ?  
    And you don't think a True Anointed are needed to give inspired direction ? 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    Only ‘dodo.’ And only when it is appropriate. Which, admittedly, occurs frequently.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    The Gentile Times have not ended.  God's spiritual Temple has been given over to the elders as well as all JWs. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22; Rev 11:1,2)  Didn't you mention that this Temple was the anointed priesthood in another post?  Well, the elders "represent" the priesthood, but also all JWs according to GB member G. Loesh, are the spiritual temple. (new light I suppose) "Israel"/New Jerusalem has been trampled.  (Dan 8:10-14; Mal 3:1-7) (Matt 24:15,16; Mark 13:14; Luke 21:24; 2 Thess 2:3,4)
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