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Patiently waiting for Truth

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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    You've just described the organization and its leadership...perfectly.
     
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    I realize that I am not as smart as humans, but I am smart enough to realize that EVERYBODY, without exception has been wrong 100% of the time about the fulfillment of Biblical prophesy in modern times.
    Interpreting invisible things without a shred of evidence is a tough gig.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Pudgy in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    @TrueTomHarley you are good for a laugh. And you certainly hate me, which I find amusing.  Keep it up old chap  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    @TrueTomHarley you are good for a laugh. And you certainly hate me, which I find amusing.  Keep it up old chap  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    No ? Oh, then you must just enjoy calling me names.   
    So who is the apostate mentioned here ?  Me or the reporter ?  The word 'apostate' gets thrown around so much that it has lost it's meaning. 
    But I suppose you and others will go back to arguing about that year 1914 and about when Armageddon will arrive. 
    And I WILL continue to be Patiently waiting for Truth.  Whereas JWs would prefer to continue to preach the GB's lies. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    No ? Oh, then you must just enjoy calling me names.   
    So who is the apostate mentioned here ?  Me or the reporter ?  The word 'apostate' gets thrown around so much that it has lost it's meaning. 
    But I suppose you and others will go back to arguing about that year 1914 and about when Armageddon will arrive. 
    And I WILL continue to be Patiently waiting for Truth.  Whereas JWs would prefer to continue to preach the GB's lies. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    It won’t go to trial because there is no complaint. It is just PSoMHs puffing up the griping of one of his friends.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    Furthermore, since the coroner has since made clear that no way did any other party (JW or otherwise) fail to pick up on signals, this next statement of the story must be completely made up:
    ”And Mr McGovern warned that similar deaths could happen in the future if lessons were not learned from this incident.”
    And his “shock” is overstated, since his clarification makes plain that he was not shocked at all: 
    ‘But to the shock of the county's coroner, Sean McGovern, it was revealed that the pensioner had earlier informed a senior church member of his murderous plan.’
    And, as stated previously, I am even suspicious of the phrase ‘devout Jehovah’s Witness.’ How many reporters, in this secular age, use the word ‘devout?’ It smacks of a hit job—a Witness-bashing writer pulling out all the stops, be they valid or not, to connect a painful human tragedy, someone snapping under the stress of seeing a loved ones health dissipate and vanish, even a misguided ‘mercy killing,’ with a religious group he detests, to pursue his own vendetta.
    And if this is the case, it is more than “an apostate lie” that ‘Patiently Sitting on My Hands’ champions. It is “a despicable apostate lie.”
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    The phrase you are looking for is: ‘a lie.’
    Headline of your story reads: “Coroner blasts Jehovah’s Witnesses for not stopping....”
    Whereupon the coroner himself, who has other things to do but is annoyed at being misrepresented, must set the record straight:
    “We would like to state that at no time did the Coroner find that opportunities existed and/or were missed by any individual or group to prevent the murder.”
    One might even say the phrase you are looking for is: “an apostate lie.” Who else would turn the Coroner’s statement inside out?
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in SpaceX and Falling Debris   
    wag wag wag wag
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    You are well trained by your GB. They would be proud of using you the way they do. How does it feel to be used by men ? Men that have turned their backs on God and Christ. Men that guess at dates and times. Men that 'tread on' the True Anointed ones. And you swallow their every word and worship those men. 
    What exactly do you think a 'soul' is ? The soul is the actual person, the human being, not a seperate item. 
    I don't think Almighty God was thinking about the life expectancy of 'The Word' when God created ' The Word'.  When 'The Word' = Christ was working alongside his Father it was a long way before the creation of Adam, so I wouldn't think God was 'working on' the immortality of Christ. There would have been no need for it. Death wasn't even happening until life was created here on Earth. 
    Once again I say, some people do try their best to complicate matters, and to try to stumble others, don't you ? 
    It would look like you are the troll here trying to cause complications. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    So are you trying to pretend that only JWs understand the ransom ?  If the first man Adam was created and 'came to be a living soul' or living 'being', then it follows that Jesus also 'came to be a living soul' or 'living being'.  But you metion 'the soul of Jesus' as if it was a seperate thing. 
    I understand that each human must have a 'life source' and that the 'life source' would return to God when the human dies, but that is not a 'soul'. It is not a seperate living spirit that lives on. 
    However, in my opinion, people that consider themselves very 'intelligent' or ' more intelligent than others ', tend to over complicate matters.  Jesus was human and the main difference was that he was the perfect human. He died as a human and was resurrected as a spirit. He appeared in 'human form' after his resurrection, to prove to people that he had been resurrected, and probably so as not to frighten them. 
    If Jesus didn't die completely then the ransom would not have been paid. It was only with his death as the perfect human that he paid the perfect price. But it does not take being a JW to know that. I knew that at twelve years old, long before I knew anything about JWs. 
    As for your last sentence, perhaps you should rethink it. You sound as if you are commiting a lot of people to death. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    Ah ha ! You should use that to describe the GB of your many 'orgs'.  Or, in fact to describe all the leaders, past and present, of your W/t CCJW JW Org et al.   But the reason you use it on me is because you are full of hate. Hate for me and hate for truth.
    Keep quoting your lady friend if it makes you happy. You seem hung up on her.
    I'm laughing at your weak way of playing the Emperor's New Clothes idea. Your way of thinking is, if a person doesn't agree with everything you say then you just say that person is stupid. But the things you say are so weak and false.
    I remember being told that watching or reading wicked things in like a bullet going through your head. You are letting that wickedness pass through your brain just like a bullet would, and the damage it does is tremendous. Well it seems by all the worldly things you quote that you are letting a lot of worldly / wicked things pass through you brain, and, the damage it is doing to you can be easily noticed in the words you write. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    I gave my exact reason for my name change. Thanks to @xero for a link to an article about God's name, and to @César Chávez for jolting my conscience on the matter.  But you Tom seem to need to dig at me for any reason.
    And when a lawyer posts specific information about cases that could be verified, it is not trolling. Yes they are after business just as you are.
    Oh look tom must be trolling on his every comment because he is advertising his ebooks.  
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Pudgy in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    It was posted just as 'something different'. It gets boring reading people arguing over dates and insulting each other, and when a person acts like a dog well ................ So it was just something a bit different. 
    And as for "
    Coroner
    A coroner is a government or judicial official who is empowered to conduct or order an inquest into the manner or cause of death, and to investigate or confirm the identity of an unknown person who has been found dead within the coroner's jurisdiction.   Is it the Coroner's job to state if  opportunities existed and/or were missed ? I wouldn't think so.   How can a person examining a dead body, know if opportunities existed to prevent the murder ? But you need to pick up on it Tom, as you need every straw to grasp don't you ?        
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Witness in In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short. Matt 24 v 22.   
    The words of Jesus recorded at Matthew 24 v 22 
    "In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short".
    I think this scripture is interesting in many ways. Firstly it shows the importance of the Chosen Ones to God and Christ. So should those Chosen Ones not be important to all true Christians ? 
    Secondly, does this not wipe out any reason for looking at dates or times ? A certain person quite new to this forum, or maybe just an AKA, seems to think he/she knows the exact year of Armageddon. But of what use would it be of knowing, when this scripture says "those days will be cut short" ? Surely God or Christ will assess the situation as time passes. 
    But the main point here is that God and/or Christ will act on behalf of the Chosen Ones. 
    Berean Literal Bible
    And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved; but because of the elect, those days will be shortened.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Houseofdavid in In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short. Matt 24 v 22.   
    The words of Jesus recorded at Matthew 24 v 22 
    "In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short".
    I think this scripture is interesting in many ways. Firstly it shows the importance of the Chosen Ones to God and Christ. So should those Chosen Ones not be important to all true Christians ? 
    Secondly, does this not wipe out any reason for looking at dates or times ? A certain person quite new to this forum, or maybe just an AKA, seems to think he/she knows the exact year of Armageddon. But of what use would it be of knowing, when this scripture says "those days will be cut short" ? Surely God or Christ will assess the situation as time passes. 
    But the main point here is that God and/or Christ will act on behalf of the Chosen Ones. 
    Berean Literal Bible
    And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved; but because of the elect, those days will be shortened.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Physical attendance at meetings/assemblies and "Zoom" attendance   
    IN ASSOCIATION WITH CHRIST JESUS, just in case you missed that. It doesn't say in association with the  Watchtower or JW Org.  But once again that scripture is for the True Anointed ones. It is the 'body of Christ' that is 'in association with' Christ Jesus. 
    You do know that God intends to shorten the 'last days' of Armageddon on account of those True Anointed ones, don't you ? 
    Matthew 24 : 22  In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short."
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Physical attendance at meetings/assemblies and "Zoom" attendance   
    IN ASSOCIATION WITH CHRIST JESUS, just in case you missed that. It doesn't say in association with the  Watchtower or JW Org.  But once again that scripture is for the True Anointed ones. It is the 'body of Christ' that is 'in association with' Christ Jesus. 
    You do know that God intends to shorten the 'last days' of Armageddon on account of those True Anointed ones, don't you ? 
    Matthew 24 : 22  In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short."
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED   
    Well I have previously said they have spies on here  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED   
    https://www.ebay.com/b/Antiquarian-Collectible-Books-Jehovah-Witness-Watchtower/29223/bn_55470279
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short. Matt 24 v 22.   
    The words of Jesus recorded at Matthew 24 v 22 
    "In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short".
    I think this scripture is interesting in many ways. Firstly it shows the importance of the Chosen Ones to God and Christ. So should those Chosen Ones not be important to all true Christians ? 
    Secondly, does this not wipe out any reason for looking at dates or times ? A certain person quite new to this forum, or maybe just an AKA, seems to think he/she knows the exact year of Armageddon. But of what use would it be of knowing, when this scripture says "those days will be cut short" ? Surely God or Christ will assess the situation as time passes. 
    But the main point here is that God and/or Christ will act on behalf of the Chosen Ones. 
    Berean Literal Bible
    And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved; but because of the elect, those days will be shortened.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short. Matt 24 v 22.   
    The words of Jesus recorded at Matthew 24 v 22 
    "In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short".
    I think this scripture is interesting in many ways. Firstly it shows the importance of the Chosen Ones to God and Christ. So should those Chosen Ones not be important to all true Christians ? 
    Secondly, does this not wipe out any reason for looking at dates or times ? A certain person quite new to this forum, or maybe just an AKA, seems to think he/she knows the exact year of Armageddon. But of what use would it be of knowing, when this scripture says "those days will be cut short" ? Surely God or Christ will assess the situation as time passes. 
    But the main point here is that God and/or Christ will act on behalf of the Chosen Ones. 
    Berean Literal Bible
    And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved; but because of the elect, those days will be shortened.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in SpaceX and Falling Debris   
    But @Pudgy , you talk about other people's insecurity, yet you find the need to pretend you are a dog  . Oh dear... 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in SpaceX and Falling Debris   
    My best guess is that Cesar really hates Jehovah's Witnesses, individually ... all of them, and is crude, rude, insulting and vulgar without letup to demonstrate to non-Witnesses that if they are considering the Jehovah's Witnesses religion, they will become like him .... thereby horrifying them, and scaring them away.
    I would also guess that this is caused by raging, massive and persistent neurotic insecurity, and is over-compensation due to unawareness.
    I don't expect perfection, or even competent general awareness from Humans, so it is not much more than a passing thought, of casual interest.
    Dogs can sense such things pretty accurately.
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