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Patiently waiting for Truth
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Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED
Very poor excuses Billy. Quite funny when old JW books are for sale on ebay and elsewhere.
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Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED
https://www.ebay.com/b/Antiquarian-Collectible-Books-Jehovah-Witness-Watchtower/29223/bn_55470279
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Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED
Well I have previously said they have spies on here
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Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Physical attendance at meetings/assemblies and "Zoom" attendance
IN ASSOCIATION WITH CHRIST JESUS, just in case you missed that. It doesn't say in association with the Watchtower or JW Org. But once again that scripture is for the True Anointed ones. It is the 'body of Christ' that is 'in association with' Christ Jesus.
You do know that God intends to shorten the 'last days' of Armageddon on account of those True Anointed ones, don't you ?
Matthew 24 : 22 In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short."
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Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?
The words of JESUS recorded at Matthew 5:48, and Jesus did his Father's will, so this is God's instruction.
New Living Translation
But you are to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect.
English Standard Version
You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Berean Study Bible
Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Berean Literal Bible
You shall be perfect, therefore, as your Heavenly Father is perfect.
King James Bible
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
New King James Version
Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.
New American Standard Bible
Therefore you shall be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
OK, can you read that ok ? It is scripture you know. Do you understand scripture ?
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Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Thinking in Physical attendance at meetings/assemblies and "Zoom" attendance
I’m expecting to lose it all.....and it will be a final testing of sorts for many of us.....somehow I’m thinking..rightly or wrongly? ...when it does all go...the visible structures of Jehovah’s witnesses...it has to some how represent...the scattering of the apostles..when Jesus was taken into custody and trial...and killed...
The most favored and trusted ..fled and were confused after his death...they actually went back to work fishing...not knowing what to do.
They did not cope with out his visible presence..even tho he had explained it to them.
How will we cope without a visible bricks and mortar..or if zoom also goes down?
Even Jesus himself cried out ...My God My God why have you forsaken me!!...he FELT it had gone on too long........in moments of anguish..will we as a people feel we have been tricked...will our faith and trust be tested when it all goes...and if he allows it all to go?
I am thinking that it also corresponds with the Israelites on leaving Egypt in organized safe military style escape.
When they were bought up against the sea..against the mountains...and hearing the chariots and horses of Egypt bearing down on them...in fear..and lack of trust In Jehovah..they felt they had been deceived...and cried out to Moses and ready to stone him for tricking them...will he allow the same situation come upon his modern day people in the last days?
Why not?....if he allowed his own son for a very brief time to think he had been a abandoned...why not us his motley crew of people.
We cannot look back and yearn for the days of KHs and skin on skin stuff....we cannot yearn for the leeks and onions and pots of meat...
We have been trained as a people..and every time one of us here took a stand against a pagan holiday such as Xmas or Valentine’s Day or whatever.....which blatantly is a form of idol worship to a pretend demon God.......we were in training for what is coming...he was getting us ready to take a even stronger stand that seems to be about to happen.
We must not be like Hezekiah who proudly showed of all his riches of gold etc...who put his faith in such...only to be punished by losing the lot...
Even the good Kings had wrong attitudes about such things... and he learned from that.
Havings said this I ask myself would I have been one that went into panic mode when my back was up against the mountains and wall of sea and hearing the thundering of horses bearing down on me and my family.....probably ......would I have been one that moaned about forty years of manna.....more than likely ....
I like to think....or hope....that now I have the scriptures and read their examples....and had more training than those Israelites after 400 years of captivity ...Well..I hope I do a bit better.....time will tell shortly I guess.
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Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?
Why would i study anti-Christian religions ? And I haven't seen the questions as yet.
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Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?
Yes the GB do keep spouting that God and Christ trust them and the GB et al do keep spouting that JWs have the only true religion
But neither of their spoutings are true, and the CSA in those orgs is part of the proof of it. So why should I pretend otherwise ?
It seems as if @xero has found proof that even the name used for the Org isn't true either.
You are so wrong about me Tom. In truth what i want is the complete destruction of ALL false Religions. I want all the lies about Almighty God and Jesus Christ to stop. I want all the guesswork about 'the time of the end' to stop too. I want men to stop pretending that they know truth, when in fact they don't.
I want an Earthwide group of honest people serving God through Christ, led by the True Anointed ones that are prophesied about in God's word (the JEW), that will admit when they do not have all the answers, and will wait on God through Christ for Holy Spirit to direct them.
So, explain to me your meaning of this word obtuse. Yes of course I know what it really means, (from the Latin word obtusus ) but I want to know what YOU mean by it ??? It's like I've said before Americans have a weird way with words and thinking. It just brings us back to 'The Emperor's New Clothes', people not believing your every word Tom.
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Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Pudgy in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?
It was posted just as 'something different'. It gets boring reading people arguing over dates and insulting each other, and when a person acts like a dog well ................ So it was just something a bit different.
And as for "
Coroner
A coroner is a government or judicial official who is empowered to conduct or order an inquest into the manner or cause of death, and to investigate or confirm the identity of an unknown person who has been found dead within the coroner's jurisdiction. Is it the Coroner's job to state if opportunities existed and/or were missed ? I wouldn't think so. How can a person examining a dead body, know if opportunities existed to prevent the murder ? But you need to pick up on it Tom, as you need every straw to grasp don't you ? -
Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?
Poor @TrueTomHarley. He has nothing intelligent to write but he feels left out if he doesn't write something.
You probably have ten accounts already Tom. I may change my AKA but I only have one account.
As for the True Anointed, I hope you will be ready to submit to their direction, because their direction WILL be inspired by God's Holy Spirit, unlike your GB that are tossed about like the waves of the sea. I wonder if you will have too much pride to change direction when the time comes.
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Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in Physical attendance at meetings/assemblies and "Zoom" attendance
True - so if I were them I will use it to help brothers and sisters while we can. Many have lost jobs.
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Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in Physical attendance at meetings/assemblies and "Zoom" attendance
KH are also sold in Croatia. For one KH in Zagreb, the price is 700,000 Euros (on sale from 2019).
If your predictions are correct about money, then the decision to sell KH en masse is not helpful, because the state can “nationalize” buildings, but also money. Where is the money from the sale of KH? In banks or in WTJWorg safes? Or is it investing in other real estate and businesses?
Some world events and processes affect all people, sometimes regardless of their ideological, religious or social and economic or any other status. So it seems to me that it may be an exaggeration to talk about JW as the only group of people who will suffer the most from adversity or be the only target by the secular world.
People can meet in their apartments, houses or other public places to maintain social contacts in order to develop and maintain the social aspects of direct socializing.
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Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Matthew9969 in Physical attendance at meetings/assemblies and "Zoom" attendance
But yes, keep yearning for the day Jehovah is going to kill billions of Men, women and children for not belonging to a book publishing company.
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Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in Physical attendance at meetings/assemblies and "Zoom" attendance
I am 68 years old. I worked hard in my lifetime - so I now relax and do what I like - such as field service.
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Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Matthew9969 in Physical attendance at meetings/assemblies and "Zoom" attendance
Actually I'm only on the internet during my lunch hour, so I definitely don't have the free time you apparently do to take cheap shots at people and insult them.
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Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?
@Anna@ThinkingThere is an update on this. Turns out there was no censure at all, and it took the coroner himself to set the record straight.
”We would like to state that at no time did the Coroner find that opportunities existed and/or were missed by any individual or group to prevent the murder.”
https://redditchstandard.co.uk/news/clarification-of-coroners-findings/?fbclid=IwAR1YUsWpy38RFhiS4mBvYA8f_oHJ-z95XSLSMHMXv2YFunyMEKwS5ipX2yM
Once again, the story was posted here by a dodo who presents his wishful thinking as though it was fact.
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Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED
Just a question for you, sir if you're still around. You wouldn't be a legal monitor for the Wt, would you? 🤔
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Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED
Oh the business aspect of religion. It is so far from what Jesus Christ taught. The evolution of this simple scripture is bringing it to extinction, in the world of religion...most importantly, in a religion that boasts it belongs to God.
"Pure and undefiled religion before God the Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself unstained from the world." James 1:27
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Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED
My comment have nothing with "enthusiasm" of any sort. I conveyed information regarding the creation and storage of documentation within an institution. And if that organization, like WTJWorg, is engaged in publishing, among other activities, then there are some technical and legal norms.
Private congregation data? ....and clergy/laity privileged relationship, too ? What is your definition of "Private Congregational Data"?
WTJWorg IS Private Company. Well, (does) that would mean how all documents inside WTJWorg organization are private?
JW Congregations are "private companies" inside WTJWorg Private Company. Elders are "appointed" or installed by GB (top managers or ecclesiastic-hierarchical board of directors) to collect various information about members and their activity (rank and file primarily). Members agree, more or less, about that. Who can and would have interest to see information/data about other members, about congregational activity, money, elder's decisions etc? Only few inside, i guess. Elders was instructed how to collect and how and when to destroy private and official notice, data, documents, memos and similar.
Magazines and books are another part of same issue. You speaking about "redundancy, digitization, typing errors, and technical errors in understanding (wrong) interpretations". Poor explanations and excuses you offer with this.
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Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED
Sorry I jumped ahead of @Patiently waiting for Truth. I was just expressing what I thought was common knowledge.
Nope. Just the local apostate. 🙂
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Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED
Surely you know how to find it? Just type in Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in the ebay search bar. I came up with 87 results.
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Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?
The words of JESUS recorded at Matthew 5:48, and Jesus did his Father's will, so this is God's instruction.
New Living Translation
But you are to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect.
English Standard Version
You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Berean Study Bible
Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Berean Literal Bible
You shall be perfect, therefore, as your Heavenly Father is perfect.
King James Bible
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
New King James Version
Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.
New American Standard Bible
Therefore you shall be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
OK, can you read that ok ? It is scripture you know. Do you understand scripture ?
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Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED
Very poor excuses Billy. Quite funny when old JW books are for sale on ebay and elsewhere.
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Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Ray Devereaux in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED
Very poor excuses Billy. Quite funny when old JW books are for sale on ebay and elsewhere.
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Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED
P.S.
There is a legal obligation, I do not know if it is an obligation for both WTJWorg in the USA and for WTJWorg printers around the world, that several copies, mandatory copies, of each edition that goes to print should be handed over to the state public library. Here in Croatia, 9 copies have to be handed to National University Library.