Patiently waiting for Truth

You seem to think you know it all. If you do not know how JWs compare with other religions then you have no right to critisize like you are an expert on religion.

All this mentioned here surely relates to the 'Critical times hard to deal with'  and 'the last days' of Satan's system.
So if you believe that, why fight against it ? Doesn't scripture say 'Raise you head up for your deliverence is near' ? 
Why are people fighting against the things that Almighty God and Christ are allowing to happen ?  
Isn't it a bit like going through surgery / an opperation, but knowing that it is all for the best in the end. 
Isn't God's will taking place through this wickedness ?  Isn't this all part of God's plan ? 
True Christians have the hope of the resurrection and the hope of a 'new life' either in heaven or here on Earth. 
The W/t, CCJW, JW org will surely fall as all business religions will. BUT true Christians will survive either through Armageddon or in the resurrection. 

@WyattEarp = Billy the Kid = CC. You accuse @Witness of things but show no proof.
However, This Christian also implicates God as a liar. Therefore, God’s words should be invalid by “witness” standards since it contradicts scripture and God. Ironically, by the same means, she has advocated in the past at every turn of her arguments. Do NOT follow, men! Follow Her! A Woman, instead 
 So WE / BtK / CC show us exacty where @Witness implicates God as a liar AND show us exactly where @Witness says follow her.  
@Witness has never said people should go to war. That was JTR that said war was not murder. 
WT, using one more aka does you no good at all. You are still a trouble maker that twists people's comments. A bit like TTH.
Read the instruction from Jesus recorded at Matthew 5 : 38 through 45
 “You heard that it was said: ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’a 39  However, I say to you: Do not resist the one who is wicked, but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him.b 40  And if a person wants to take you to court and get possession of your inner garment, let him also have your outer garment;c 41  and if someone in authority compels you into service for a mile, go with him two miles. 42  Give to the one asking you, and do not turn away from one who wants to borrow from you.d43  “You heard that it was said: ‘You must love your neighbore and hate your enemy.’ 44  However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemiesf and to pray for those who persecute you,g 45  so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens,h since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous.
This instruction was given to those followers of Jesus that were to become Anointed ones, as verse 45 shows. Also verse 48 proves the point.
 You must accordingly be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
However, some of you believe that it applies to everyone, so why don'tyou live by it ? And if you believe your GB are anointed then why don't they live by it ? 
Jesus words were direct 
Do not resist the one who is wicked,  Give to the one asking you, Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you.
I don't see it mentioning suing people for using a song or for uploading videos. I don't see it mentioning using dishonest lawyers to tell lies in court rooms. I don't see it mentioning resisting the payment of compensation for CSA commited by pedophile Elders and M/s.
Oh how your GB are turning their backs on God and Christ, just to keep their own power over people, and to keep that idol W/t / JW Org running. 

All this mentioned here surely relates to the 'Critical times hard to deal with'  and 'the last days' of Satan's system.
So if you believe that, why fight against it ? Doesn't scripture say 'Raise you head up for your deliverence is near' ? 
Why are people fighting against the things that Almighty God and Christ are allowing to happen ?  
Isn't it a bit like going through surgery / an opperation, but knowing that it is all for the best in the end. 
Isn't God's will taking place through this wickedness ?  Isn't this all part of God's plan ? 
True Christians have the hope of the resurrection and the hope of a 'new life' either in heaven or here on Earth. 
The W/t, CCJW, JW org will surely fall as all business religions will. BUT true Christians will survive either through Armageddon or in the resurrection. 

@WyattEarp = Billy the Kid = CC. You accuse @Witness of things but show no proof.
However, This Christian also implicates God as a liar. Therefore, God’s words should be invalid by “witness” standards since it contradicts scripture and God. Ironically, by the same means, she has advocated in the past at every turn of her arguments. Do NOT follow, men! Follow Her! A Woman, instead 
 So WE / BtK / CC show us exacty where @Witness implicates God as a liar AND show us exactly where @Witness says follow her.  
@Witness has never said people should go to war. That was JTR that said war was not murder. 
WT, using one more aka does you no good at all. You are still a trouble maker that twists people's comments. A bit like TTH.
Read the instruction from Jesus recorded at Matthew 5 : 38 through 45
 “You heard that it was said: ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’a 39  However, I say to you: Do not resist the one who is wicked, but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him.b 40  And if a person wants to take you to court and get possession of your inner garment, let him also have your outer garment;c 41  and if someone in authority compels you into service for a mile, go with him two miles. 42  Give to the one asking you, and do not turn away from one who wants to borrow from you.d43  “You heard that it was said: ‘You must love your neighbore and hate your enemy.’ 44  However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemiesf and to pray for those who persecute you,g 45  so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens,h since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous.
This instruction was given to those followers of Jesus that were to become Anointed ones, as verse 45 shows. Also verse 48 proves the point.
 You must accordingly be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
However, some of you believe that it applies to everyone, so why don'tyou live by it ? And if you believe your GB are anointed then why don't they live by it ? 
Jesus words were direct 
Do not resist the one who is wicked,  Give to the one asking you, Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you.
I don't see it mentioning suing people for using a song or for uploading videos. I don't see it mentioning using dishonest lawyers to tell lies in court rooms. I don't see it mentioning resisting the payment of compensation for CSA commited by pedophile Elders and M/s.
Oh how your GB are turning their backs on God and Christ, just to keep their own power over people, and to keep that idol W/t / JW Org running. 

@WyattEarp = Billy the Kid = CC. You accuse @Witness of things but show no proof.
However, This Christian also implicates God as a liar. Therefore, God’s words should be invalid by “witness” standards since it contradicts scripture and God. Ironically, by the same means, she has advocated in the past at every turn of her arguments. Do NOT follow, men! Follow Her! A Woman, instead 
 So WE / BtK / CC show us exacty where @Witness implicates God as a liar AND show us exactly where @Witness says follow her.  
@Witness has never said people should go to war. That was JTR that said war was not murder. 
WT, using one more aka does you no good at all. You are still a trouble maker that twists people's comments. A bit like TTH.
Read the instruction from Jesus recorded at Matthew 5 : 38 through 45
 “You heard that it was said: ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’a 39  However, I say to you: Do not resist the one who is wicked, but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him.b 40  And if a person wants to take you to court and get possession of your inner garment, let him also have your outer garment;c 41  and if someone in authority compels you into service for a mile, go with him two miles. 42  Give to the one asking you, and do not turn away from one who wants to borrow from you.d43  “You heard that it was said: ‘You must love your neighbore and hate your enemy.’ 44  However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemiesf and to pray for those who persecute you,g 45  so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens,h since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous.
This instruction was given to those followers of Jesus that were to become Anointed ones, as verse 45 shows. Also verse 48 proves the point.
 You must accordingly be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
However, some of you believe that it applies to everyone, so why don'tyou live by it ? And if you believe your GB are anointed then why don't they live by it ? 
Jesus words were direct 
Do not resist the one who is wicked,  Give to the one asking you, Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you.
I don't see it mentioning suing people for using a song or for uploading videos. I don't see it mentioning using dishonest lawyers to tell lies in court rooms. I don't see it mentioning resisting the payment of compensation for CSA commited by pedophile Elders and M/s.
Oh how your GB are turning their backs on God and Christ, just to keep their own power over people, and to keep that idol W/t / JW Org running. 

Should the JW member submit to GB at All Cost? 
If you advocate the autonomy and independence of an individual or group or WTJWorg Corporation to resist the bad laws of “secular authorities,” then you should allow the same for JW members who need to be able to discern what is wrong with GB leadership and their doctrines and instructions.
Perhaps because Vatican is "all authority".
The Vatican City State, also known as The Vatican, became independent from Italy with the Lateran Treaty (1929), and it is a distinct territory under "full ownership, exclusive dominion, and sovereign authority and jurisdiction" of the Holy See, itself a sovereign entity of international law, which maintains the city state's temporal, diplomatic, and spiritual independence. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_City
Hmm! GB with their lawyers have deceptive words in their mouth as they presents themselves on JW TV and in Courts...
...and they do threat their "accusers" with; human rights, OSCE, UN, and "worldly" Courts, asking for "justice" from "secular judges", and not from - "him who judges justly". If GB is called to suffer in the same manner as Jesus, then why GB fight for their "property"* (in Russia or anywhere else)? Why not to be jailed and patiently wait for JHVH? Why JW fight against "bad governments" and not follow Jesus example who did not seek to be acquitted of unjust charges and released? 
* according to WT publications, "property" includes all material and spiritual assets and resources, including people, JW members

You are showing yourself up here Tom. Showing your desperation. I've explained it all very clearly so that anyone that really wants to understand will do so.
I hate what God and Christ hates, and that is to hate hypocrisy, lies, deceit and to hate the words of dishonest greedy men, which your GB are. 
And you know that the CSA is only one problem within the W/t and JW Orgs (plural). But God through Christ will have a True Anointed and true 'earthly' Christians before Armageddon.  
Luke 8 : 17.          Luke 17 : 1 & 2. 
 

Yes, maybe the GB / W/t Leaders spent too much time reading about it and it perverted their minds. 

So because I don't hang on to every word of certain women that seem important in your eyes, what does that prove ?  Am i supposed to see those women as important ? I don't think so. You moan at @Witness because she is female and she says she is anointed. Yet you hang on the words of women that don't seem at all spiritual. 
You like those women and what they say because they 'serve your purpose' Tom. 
Tom, you are really making yourself look stupid here. You are desperately hanging  on the words of 'worldly' women. 
You and i both know there is nothing that we can do to solve the problems of this wicked world. But you and I both know that God through Christ will have a clean 'group of people' serving in an honest and clean way, before Armageddon. 
Now it's like you have said before the JW 'boots on the ground' congregants seem to be the closest group of people to serving God properly. Hence that group or people need to be as honest and clean as possible. But that is of no use if the leadership is rotten and immoral. So if you really wanted to understand me you would know that I don't hate the millions of congregants of the JW 'group of people', I just want the 'Org' to be cleaned up and led by True Anointed ones. 
    , You have twisted my words because you don't like the truth

A true believer in Jesus Christ would not battle for legal spiritual rights. (John 4:23,24)  They put their full trust in God and His Son.  But JWs have established their "kingdom" in this world and thus, feel the need to fight for everything that will aid the development and preservation of, their kingdom.  They fight for the organization's freedom of worship, and remove the freedom of worship of God's anointed priesthood within their walls. (no bonding together to worship and study the scriptures)   An act of hypocrisy, I would say. An act of trampling down the Temple/dwelling of God.  (Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2; Gal 1:10)
Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here.”  John 18:36
 

You mean, the reason why Ray Franz was disfellowshipped?  Well that was certainly the slimiest trick in the book.  Or, the subsequent disfellowshipping of a person, who is seen associating with a disfellowshipped one.  Yes, no doubt, slimy. 
The Wt. used Mr. Introvigne's expertise only for their targeted benefit. Money can buy the message they want announced.  It appears they are also paying for advertising lately on news channels, with Robert Hendriks III as their media representative.
Since I’ve been disfellowshipped, an old JW friend would only text me when in need of a "how-to" answer about something other than the spiritual, which she knew either I or my husband could give her.  That was it.  Other than that, I was shunned….until, they are now finding out just how slimy the organization really is.

If the guy agreed with Jehovah’s Witnesses in every aspect, he would be one. He isn’t, so manifestly he doesn’t. No one ever said he did.
A recognized expert writing a brief for the court is the most unremarkable thing in the legal world. You need not act as though it is something shocking.
As to Witness’s false-piety-on-steroids, and her ‘What need have Witnesses for a legal tool of the world?’ the same could be said for automobiles. Why should any Christian have one? Let God’s spirit take them wherever they want to go. Why use a machine manufactured by the world.?
His article that JWs are the most persecuted religion in the world is a reflection upon the U.S. government agency’s report, not his own. It is also separate for any brief he has written for any court case. He hasn’t opined similarly about the many other groups he has spoken in behalf of, he the author of some 70 books.
 

https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/e/b/83530.pdf
Statement of Dr Massimo Introvigne, Personal Representative of the OSCE Chairperson-in-Office on Combating Racism, Xenophobia and Discrimination, also Focusing on Intolerance and Discrimination against Christians and Members of Other Religions HDIM, Warsaw, October 4, 2011
I came to this mandate with a background not as a politician or a diplomat, but with some thirty years of experience as a sociologist of religion and religious liberty activist. Those who came in touch with me this year would probably agree that this background may involve both advantages and disadvantages. The mandate is broad, and the time is short. I will limit myself to four remarks about four main areas of the mandate.
1. Racism. Social theory teaches us that economic crises generate stereotyping and scapegoating of minorities, easily degenerating into racism. Recent experience shows that this stereotyping is unfortunately not limited to marginal racist organizations, but occasionally contaminates mainline political speech. Intolerance should not be tolerated, be it intolerance against immigrants, refugees, women or any other minority. Working with NGOs and civil society is particularly important in this field, and several NGOs gave us a real treasure of information, particularly during our country visits.
2. Roma and Sinti issues. The growth of intolerance against Roma and Sinti communities is also in part a consequence of the international economic crisis. Two main aims of the mandate have been to involve directly Roma organizations in any international and domestic discussion about their community, and to facilitate conversations between the same Roma organizations, ODIHR specialized personnel, and some participating States. At least with respect to certain States, some real progress has been made, although visits to settlements and communities in several countries confirmed that much remains to be done.
3. Members of other religions. I fully understood my mandate not to be only about Christians, and recently had a significant meeting with leaders of the Sikh community in what is now the largest European Sikh temple, in Northern Italy. They report that problems still exist, but their situation has significantly improved in several participating States. I also interacted with so called traditional or "tribal" religions, particularly - in conversation with the World Intellectual Property Organization and other relevant actors in this field - in connection with one of their concerns, the protection of their "traditional knowledge" through the use, and the prevention of possible misuse, of intellectual property. But I also tried not to forget the non-traditional religions and experiences, by meeting representatives of both new religious movements and of secular humanist organizations, which are struggling for appropriate forms of legal recognitions in some countries.
4. Christians. The September 12, 2011 conference on hate crimes against Christians in Rome, with its quite high attendance, confirmed that these crimes are a matter of great international concern. The spiral of intolerance against Christians can be described through a three-step model. First comes intolerance, a cultural phenomenon. Second, discrimination, a legal process. Third, hate crimes. The social actors involved in the three steps are obviously different. But there is a slippery slope from the first step to the second and from the second to the third. I am very much aware that my role as Representative is not to be a spokesperson for any Christian church or community. But it involves hearing their claims and complaints, checking the facts, and discussing these claims with the relevant participating states. It should be recognized that not all claims should be accepted at face value. Christian churches and communities may have been responsible of hurting local sensitivities in different ways. But it is also a fact that intolerance against Christians is growing in many countries and regions.
My mandate is about building bridges. Bridges between countries. Bridges between religions. Bridges between religions and governments. Bridges between believers and unbelievers. Bridges between those who cherish the religious heritages of their countries and those who cherish traditions of separation between church and state.
Bridges are also about friendship. Let me conclude by mentioning that in this year I saw professional acquaintances grow into real friendships with personnel of OSCE , ODIHR and the Lithuanian chairmanship, women and men of great professional capabilities and moral integrity. For this, I am particularly grateful.
GB and JW representatives refuse any dialogue with representatives of other religions (except perhaps when they communicate through real estate agents while selling KH to another “fake” religion).
In this aspect, Massimo argues that he builds bridges between religions.
Is “building bridges between religions” something JWs want? From what we know the answer is, No. But WTJWorg GB doesn't mind, for now, that Massimo Introvigne wants to achieve exctly that with his work.
WTJWorg complains that others (whole world) are intolerant of them and discriminate and hate them. Well, can’t the same be found in a JW assembly whose members refuse to greet a former member when they meet on the street? Not greeting someone you know is not only rude and unkind, it is intolerant, discriminatory and hateful. It is the demolition, the burning of bridges.

The point is, he was hired to lobby for the Wt.  Hired; given money to announce how JWs are persecuted.  Does God need the help of the world at any time to fight His battles?   If the persecution of JWs in Russia was really for the sake of Jesus Christ, must it be advertised and fought against?  Or, should JWs accept the path of Christ, and walk humbly on that path?   (Matt 16:24-26)
But, JWs are not suffering for the sake of Christ.  They are suffering for the sake of an organization, an idol.  This is why the leadership must fight to save it.  It is built with money, not with the Spirit of God.  It uses money to fight its battles.  (Exod 20:4,5; 32:8,4; Isa 57:13; Matt 22:36,37; Rom 1:21,22,25)
At least JWs are not the victims of mass sterilization.  https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/china-conducting-mass-sterilization-muslim-minorities-amount-genocide/story?id=71519132

How do you feel that you must purchase electricity from the company that also sells it to the neighbor you don’t like?
How do you feel about practicing the slimiest trick in the book—guilt by association?
He’s a scholar of religion. He is not a Scientologist himself, nor a Jehovah’s Witness. He is a Roman Catholic. His “lobbyism” is simply that bigotry does not run the minor religions off the road. If there is any running off the road to be done, it will be for God to do. In the meantime, they have the right to exist.
All these other groups he speaks for—Witnesses don’t agree with any other them, nor they with us. But we will do battle with them in the arena of ideas, not by attempting to legislate them out of existence. “Mischief by decree,” I think it is called.

Massimo  Introvigne, a lobbyist and a lawyer, called a “cult apologist” by some.   How do JWs feel that their leadership must hire a lobbyist who defends Scientology as well?
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massimo_Introvigne

But JWs are not law abiding in every way. The GB use their Lawyers to tell lies in court rooms and to defend Pedophiles in the W/t, CCJW, JWOrg.  The GB hide a 25 year Pedophile database that is protecting Pedophiles in the USA.  The GB / JW Org was refusing to pay compensation to Victims of CSA in Australia until the W/t was threatened with losing it's Tax relief.  The W/t / GB gets voluteers to build Kingdom Halls at no labour costs, then the W/t /GB sells off those Kingdom Halls for gross profit. The GB / W/t moves cash 'offshore' to hide it. The GB / W/t has now taken over the 'ownership' of ALL Kingdom Halls worldwide so that congregations have no collateral when being sued for CSA.
The GB / W/t are greedy and dishonest, and have no real love for God or Christ or people. 

But JWs are not law abiding in every way. The GB use their Lawyers to tell lies in court rooms and to defend Pedophiles in the W/t, CCJW, JWOrg.  The GB hide a 25 year Pedophile database that is protecting Pedophiles in the USA.  The GB / JW Org was refusing to pay compensation to Victims of CSA in Australia until the W/t was threatened with losing it's Tax relief.  The W/t / GB gets voluteers to build Kingdom Halls at no labour costs, then the W/t /GB sells off those Kingdom Halls for gross profit. The GB / W/t moves cash 'offshore' to hide it. The GB / W/t has now taken over the 'ownership' of ALL Kingdom Halls worldwide so that congregations have no collateral when being sued for CSA.
The GB / W/t are greedy and dishonest, and have no real love for God or Christ or people. 

The Last Days that began in 1914 are now coming to their End ...
  Would you like to be a Survivor of the Last Days?    "But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here." (2 Tim 3: 1) The Last Days (pangs of distress) do not last for an exhaustive period of time but do have an ending to them. It's an allotment period of time of 120 years, like the Days of Noah. This allotment is a Conclusion of a System of things . As Christ Millennial approaches, we will soon bring an end to our Preaching Work to those associated with (2 Tim 3: 1-5) the end of an Age has come. It's not the end of the world but rather the End of an age of Wickedness.
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Oh, come now! It is not possible for anyone to be so obtuse! You are putting me on! 
Look, Witness, and KickedFace, and Matthew4 5784, and Shwiiiiiiiiii and Sreckohehehe ))))), and several others all want what you want—the destruction of the JW organization. They all are using the CSA issue to that end. But they are all smart enough not to provide proof positive of it. None of them are so stupid as to say:
“I am only interested in the CSA within the W/t, CCJW, JW Org, and their other orgs / titles.  The reason being that the GB et al keep spouting that 'God and Christ trust them' and that JWs have the ONLY true religion / way of serving God.”
Is it any wonder that, in my moments of weakness, I yield to that weakness and call you a dodo. This is my greatest persecution—right here. 

.... sigh .... and all this time I thought it was Trump's fault ......

"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true." -- Homer Simpson

You consistently wear such a huge “Kick Me” sign on your behind that I find it hard to resist.
But I am trying. You remember this line from the other thread?
“Is it possible for you not to notice that you exactly validate what [Holly Folk] says?”
It was originally: “Is it possible that you are so stupid so as not to notice that you exactly validate what she says?”
I changed it (trust me on this) not because my assessment of your brightness had increased. I changed it so as to be instructed by several here who are better than I at “not paying back injury with injury.”
 

I gave my exact reason for my name change. Thanks to @xero for a link to an article about God's name, and to @César Chávez for jolting my conscience on the matter.  But you Tom seem to need to dig at me for any reason.
And when a lawyer posts specific information about cases that could be verified, it is not trolling. Yes they are after business just as you are.
Oh look tom must be trolling on his every comment because he is advertising his ebooks.