Patiently waiting for Truth

Not exactly. They are obedient when it does not conflict with God's 'rules'. But many governments give orders that people must join the military for a few years, and JWs disobey (rightly of course) and get put in prison for it.
Unfortunately the GB and it's Org have earnt the title of being 'secretive'. And we know why of course. 
Once again, unfortunately, the GB and it's Org are also hated for doing 'bad', and we know why.
Again, unfortunately, the GB and their lawyers don't endure it, they cry out that it is all lies. 
BUT, the GB and it's Org are not honest and in some cases not law-abiding. Certainly not living by God's true standards. 
This is where it becomes unfortunate. The Leaders of the many W/t, CCJW, JW Org, etc companies, have been shown to be dishonest. The CSA problems, and the handling of such, earth wide in those orgs, have given it all a bad reputation. The orgs plural now look dirty. Add to this that the Leaders (those 8 men) have gone beyond the things written, raising themselves up above every other person here on this earth, including the (true) Anointed ones. 
Maybe what you see as persecution is actually God through Christ, withholding Holy Spirit, from those orgs, plural. We know that God punished the Nation of Israel for wrong doing. Maybe if those orgs, including the GB, were to repent of their sins, and to turn around and serve God properly, through Christ, then maybe the Holy Spirit would guide them and protect them.  
What happened in Russia reminds me of what happened to Jerusalem, and we know why Jerusalem was destroyed. 
God, through Christ, will be served properly before that great Judgement Day arrives. 

Not exactly. They are obedient when it does not conflict with God's 'rules'. But many governments give orders that people must join the military for a few years, and JWs disobey (rightly of course) and get put in prison for it.
Unfortunately the GB and it's Org have earnt the title of being 'secretive'. And we know why of course. 
Once again, unfortunately, the GB and it's Org are also hated for doing 'bad', and we know why.
Again, unfortunately, the GB and their lawyers don't endure it, they cry out that it is all lies. 
BUT, the GB and it's Org are not honest and in some cases not law-abiding. Certainly not living by God's true standards. 
This is where it becomes unfortunate. The Leaders of the many W/t, CCJW, JW Org, etc companies, have been shown to be dishonest. The CSA problems, and the handling of such, earth wide in those orgs, have given it all a bad reputation. The orgs plural now look dirty. Add to this that the Leaders (those 8 men) have gone beyond the things written, raising themselves up above every other person here on this earth, including the (true) Anointed ones. 
Maybe what you see as persecution is actually God through Christ, withholding Holy Spirit, from those orgs, plural. We know that God punished the Nation of Israel for wrong doing. Maybe if those orgs, including the GB, were to repent of their sins, and to turn around and serve God properly, through Christ, then maybe the Holy Spirit would guide them and protect them.  
What happened in Russia reminds me of what happened to Jerusalem, and we know why Jerusalem was destroyed. 
God, through Christ, will be served properly before that great Judgement Day arrives. 

What! 
So here we have a case of you literally "picking a bone" with me !
Shameful!
I shall report you to the Daisy Hill Puppy Farm!

I understand from the Hamster and Gerbil Underground that they have a contract out on you.

I personally do not mind if you are here. or anywhere at all. I just come here, expecting you to stroke out in mid typed sentence.

...so did Quisling, former Prime Minister of Norway during the Nazi Occupation, EVEN when he was executed by firing squad by the Norwegian people.
...and to be fair ... if anyone attacks you. it's not really you that they are attackng ... its your goofball ideas. philosophy, and general hatefulness toward them.

Seven people tagged but you didn’t say goodbye to Cesar.
He has feelings, too, you know.

... and you, Ceser,  are ALSO wrong about wolves not needing a veterinarian.
We have coyotes where I live and they are a miserable lot ... full of ticks, fleas, intestinal and heart worms and parasites, and dozens of others; infections of every sort, crippled, on the verge of starvation, their skin and fur with open sores, mange and other diseases. Even Rabies.
How does it feel to be wrong about EVERYTHING, because of malicious bitterness?
 

Well ... the Brothers in Russia were arrested and convicted and are now serving sentences for being terrorists/extremists, and the enemys of civilization ... none of which are true. Witnesses are the most sheeplike persons on Earth, although that is not an exclusive club.
Years ago we studied the differences between a reproach (accusation), and a reproof (conviction) .... but that must have been before your time, Seezer, as it is apparent you do not know the real life difference.
Even with the Brother's convictions in Russia, they are still in reality free from any reproach or accusation by virtuous men who know the difference.
You destroy any credibility you might have had with wild accusations at EVERYBODY, and calling virtuous Brothers with a viewpoint that does not agree with yours sons and daughters of Satan.
..... such is the stuff witch hunts are made of.
 
 

UM, haven't missed much have I.  I've not been here for days but having now read it all, well nothing new. 
The one thing I did note is that @xero  is really hung up on people's mental state. @Arauna would call it OCD probably.  Oh yes, and that cesar person seems to think I am @Pudgy, sorry Pudgy. 
I wish you all well. I am too busy selling and then buying vehicles and building sheds. The weather here in England is fabulous so making the most of it. 
@JW Insider seems to make it known how mixed up the GB / leaders of the JW org are concerning the owning or reading of 'other religious literature'.  
Best regards to @Srecko Sostar  and @TrueTomHarley and @Anna 
Take care and be good y'all. I'll try to stay away for another few days.  
 

UM, haven't missed much have I.  I've not been here for days but having now read it all, well nothing new. 
The one thing I did note is that @xero  is really hung up on people's mental state. @Arauna would call it OCD probably.  Oh yes, and that cesar person seems to think I am @Pudgy, sorry Pudgy. 
I wish you all well. I am too busy selling and then buying vehicles and building sheds. The weather here in England is fabulous so making the most of it. 
@JW Insider seems to make it known how mixed up the GB / leaders of the JW org are concerning the owning or reading of 'other religious literature'.  
Best regards to @Srecko Sostar  and @TrueTomHarley and @Anna 
Take care and be good y'all. I'll try to stay away for another few days.  
 

UM, haven't missed much have I.  I've not been here for days but having now read it all, well nothing new. 
The one thing I did note is that @xero  is really hung up on people's mental state. @Arauna would call it OCD probably.  Oh yes, and that cesar person seems to think I am @Pudgy, sorry Pudgy. 
I wish you all well. I am too busy selling and then buying vehicles and building sheds. The weather here in England is fabulous so making the most of it. 
@JW Insider seems to make it known how mixed up the GB / leaders of the JW org are concerning the owning or reading of 'other religious literature'.  
Best regards to @Srecko Sostar  and @TrueTomHarley and @Anna 
Take care and be good y'all. I'll try to stay away for another few days.  
 

UM, haven't missed much have I.  I've not been here for days but having now read it all, well nothing new. 
The one thing I did note is that @xero  is really hung up on people's mental state. @Arauna would call it OCD probably.  Oh yes, and that cesar person seems to think I am @Pudgy, sorry Pudgy. 
I wish you all well. I am too busy selling and then buying vehicles and building sheds. The weather here in England is fabulous so making the most of it. 
@JW Insider seems to make it known how mixed up the GB / leaders of the JW org are concerning the owning or reading of 'other religious literature'.  
Best regards to @Srecko Sostar  and @TrueTomHarley and @Anna 
Take care and be good y'all. I'll try to stay away for another few days.  
 

Then both of you have my profound sympathies.

That is true .....  but I do recognize hateful, unhappy bitterness and malicious insulting insecurity in humans.
Your misery screams out ahead of you like a runaway locomotive approaching a bridge-out.

If you are "wisdom personified" I will pass ......
Even dogs, disgusting as we are, know not to be hateful, insulting, vindictive and malicious.
Willy-Nilly, most people LIKE dogs, because we are naturally happy!
Your misery screams out ahead of you like a runaway locomotive approaching a bridge-out.

In the 1970's it was common for Bethelites to order Bible commentaries like Matthew Henry's and Barnes' Notes on the NT and various Bible translations. Later, they also allowed orders for Jay Green's Hebrew Interlinear and William Whiston's Josephus. Bethelites paid for them, but the price was fairly low because all requests were ordered through a one of Dean Songer's assistants.
Then there was a meeting in 1979, and all such books became impossible to order, and anyone who already had them in their rooms (except for Bible translations) would be looked at suspiciously. In 1980, housekeepers would report to their overseers if these types of books were found, and many Bethelites who owned them would be questioned by an interrogation committee. Within a matter of months, they moved the entire Bethel Library out of reach of all Bethelites by moving the entire Writing Department --along with the library-- out of 124 CH and onto a locked floor down at 25 CH.
Also, even before it moved, no Bethel tours allowed visitors to see the Bethel Library beyond a quick peek from the doorway to the "facing" shelves which were almost all WT material along with a couple sets of encyclopedias and dictionaries. All commentaries and books from other religions were were kept in the rows of shelves behind the first "facing" shelves, and could not be seen. Even the tours at Patterson in the 2000's only allowed a doorway glimpse of a small corner of the Library from the main hallway, about 40 feet from the nearest book.
I remember once when Brother Klein railed against commentaries one morning at breakfast. And he was one of the GB members in the Writing Department. At another meeting he said that using them was "sucking at the teat of Christendom." Now, of course, there is a much more reasonable approach, and I think that most of the brothers are at least partially aware that this is where most of the information in the Insight book comes from. They might be less aware that this is also where we get many of the spiritual gems and treasures in the meeting workbooks, and of course the footnotes in the Study Bible, all those interesting comments about Hebrew and Greek words, etc.

..... unless of course you are a man having a conversation with a woman .... then you are ALWAYS wrong.
The reason men play the Lottery more than women is that they think the odds are better at winning.
...... and the reason that men die almost a decade before women is .....
 
... they want to.

I’ve never heard it put this way before.
I also wonder if I can trick 4Jah and CC into giving me upvotes by posting photos like this:

Bingo.
It’s the pure nastiness of one, not to mention the pure dodo-headedness of another. These annoy far more than the posts themselves, though sometimes the two are hard to unravel.
After Paul makes his speech in the Areopagus, he says: “Okay. Been there/done that. If I don’t keep looking upon all these idols, maybe I won’t keep getting so irritated. Maybe I can get around to writing some of those epistles that have been kicking around in the back of my head.”
People have different interests. Most friends only have so much time for reading, and many have only so much interest. If they choose to read Watchtower-only material, why would I have a problem with that? They trust the source. If I recall correctly, @Thinkingmentioned a circuit overseer who acknowledged that spiritual food must be written for the masses, necessitating those with extra reading appetite to do extra study projects. I wrote about some of that here:
https://www.tomsheepandgoats.com/2019/01/what-witnesses-are-allowed-to-read.html
If you go somewhere that ordinary theocratic reading does not take us—looking into the nitty-gritty of this or that complaint, for example, you have a responsibility to frame things in accord with the brotherhood, unless, like Rulf, you decide your complaints are so stellar and overriding that they justify your leaving the brotherhood, in which case you should do so. But where is he now? Doubtless the “scholars” he consoles himself that he will hang out with are few and far between—most “scholars” have concluded the further they get from God, the better—and his new best friends become some of the smarter adversaries here. Instead, I sort of like JWI, who comes up with some orthodox things, but still says “God’s people obviously need headship, as does everyone else, and the present arrangement is overall doing a good job.”
One long-ago article said, what if you come across some Bible account that seems hard to reconcile, even shocking? Do you do a 60-minutes blow-the-cover-off expose of God? Or do you reflect on how good he’s been to you, that you don’t have all the facts, and if you did, no doubt it would make a difference? Do you do a Jesus, who was overall quite merciful toward his disciples, even when they made blunders or veered into self-importance?

..... I know ... I feel the same way about cats.

Well I didn't say you should block him, just not respond. But I guess you have no self control Tom, so if blocking is what it takes then that's the way to go 👍😀

Of course, neither Dogs or Jehovah's Witnesses vote.
For Dogs it is because of the failed French Poodle rebellion of 1870, and we have had to eat from dishes on the ground, since then.

Nor is there anywhere else. 

Many communities in the US have websites where one only needs to type in a name and address and if you are a registered voter it tells you where to vote and displays some information about your registration. No one else but the voter is supposed to use this information. In the US, it should be very unusual for elders to "know" that someone in the congregation is a registered voter without misusing data.