Patiently waiting for Truth

So why doesn't the Org baptise people properly then ? In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, as Jesus gave instruction. 
And actually it is dedication you make to God not baptism. 

So why doesn't the Org baptise people properly then ? In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, as Jesus gave instruction. 
And actually it is dedication you make to God not baptism. 

Exactly, you have to think of it like I do when I see the 'Victims of Child Sexual Abuse'.  It doesn't matter if JW Org is 'mostly peaceful'  when you or your children have been sexually abused by a JW Elder or M/S.  On the whole, JW Org is a failure.

Exactly, you have to think of it like I do when I see the 'Victims of Child Sexual Abuse'.  It doesn't matter if JW Org is 'mostly peaceful'  when you or your children have been sexually abused by a JW Elder or M/S.  On the whole, JW Org is a failure.

Which means, when translated:
Apostates invariably end up where they belong - in the gutter
[I guess it's not as funny if you have to explain it.]

Of course, nothing speaks concretely in favor of that idea. But it also says nothing about him being good from the beginning of his reign and then becoming bad. In fact, on the contrary, it seems he was bad almost "all" or bigger part of his life, and then he repented and was given the grace to live for a little more and rule Judas. It is obvious that, as in many other cases, children and people are influenced by those around them. This largely determines how they will live.
CC said: He did what the LORD considered to be evil, following the despicable practices of the nations whom the LORD had expelled in full view of the people of Israel.
He explained in this sentence, how little king boy followed despicable practices of other people (nations) but i would say, also of own people and older inside own nation, family, elders, friends etc (A. Morris statement about apostates aka ex-JW).
In that sense i try to connect CC quote about 2 Kings 21. What teachings and practice and example GB members bring to JW members and JW children? 

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It's certainly a low-high-tech way of using forums, facebook and the like with overlords who want to control what you can say - even to your friends and family. More, though to be silently annoying.
 

Great—thanks a lot!—grumble grumble. I punched that binary code into my laptop and afterwards it wouldn’t go to anywhere but Lloyd’s site. I had to throw it in the dumpster!

I suppose I could make it harder. I could use rot13 on top of that.

It's a rudimentary IQ test. Apostates will always fail it.

Wow I've been missing some fun here then. But we all know the GB backed down at the last minute because they would have lost the charity status that it has. 

I would imagine someone could create a universal JW - chatbot parsing internet posts and regurgitating responses from the respective JW phrase-bank.
I think some JWs are actually chatbots.
It makes sense that JWs never generate novelty since their existence is defined by the existence of those they oppose. And we know JWs oppose truth. 
JWs as such will cease to exist when the True Anointed remnant 'stand up' for God and Christ before Armageddon. 

I keep reading this competitive dribble from this ex Elder. She seems to like pitching people one against the other. All this rubbish about freedom and free will. All adults should have free will. And she seems to go on about food and a person's weight. I do wonder (that is thinking out loud ) if she has a weight problem herself.  Oh well, maybe she gets bored in her mum's cellar and just needs to type something, anything, just to show the world she is alive.  
 

Oh this is lovely  .  Basically saying "We have to continue to tell lies otherwise we loose the congregation". 
A core doctrine that is a deliberate lie.  Oh they of little faith. 
Didn't it ever come to mind about Jesus saying "Unless you drink my blood and eat my flesh ...... "  Shock happens, but when faith is strong then the faithful remain. 
Worried about being d/fed. Worrying about the 'flock' not having enough to 'fall back on'.  Absolutely no faith what so ever. 

I would imagine someone could create a universal JW - chatbot parsing internet posts and regurgitating responses from the respective JW phrase-bank.
I think some JWs are actually chatbots.
It makes sense that JWs never generate novelty since their existence is defined by the existence of those they oppose. And we know JWs oppose truth. 
JWs as such will cease to exist when the True Anointed remnant 'stand up' for God and Christ before Armageddon. 

Really. I wonder what your definition of "apostate" is; someone who rejects the Wt, or someone who rejects God and Christ.  Or, do you meld the two together which defines the person leaving the organization as unable to lead a moral or religious life?  

I would imagine someone could create a universal apostate-chatbot parsing internet posts and regurgitating responses from the respective apostate phrase-bank.
I think some are actually chatbots.
It makes sense that evil is parasitic of good as apostates never generate novelty since their existence is defined by the existence of those they oppose.
Paradoxically, these would cease to exist should they succeed, and yet those are the impulses of the apostate - these are nihilistic in spirit and direction. These are like those who realize none would mourn their passing so they want to create a monument to their passing in creating as big a crater as possible in this world.

Could the term, “useful idiot”, be used for people who are convinced that they “have the truth” that is taught exclusively in WTJWorg, and that their religious leaders are the only ones who tell them the “truth” and can be trusted indefinitely?

Manasseh was twelve years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem fifty-five years. His mother’s name was Hephzibah.  He did evil in the eyes of the Lord, following the detestable practices of the nations the Lord had driven out before the Israelites. 
Verse suggests he was bad (evil) already with 12 years of age. At what age does someone become "despicable" (fake) JW or ex-JW ? :)) 

Idiot opposers are like people standing outside a gym trying to convince people that they don't need to go to the gym or that they're in the wrong gym and ought to go to their gym. At some point, your message is received and accepted or rejected. Failure to get the point when it's been rejected is just idiocy.  It also undermines your own argument. It also suggests that these people want or need your help. Look up the word "officious" in the dictionary and you will find a really good definition of the persistent and pestilent sorts of opposers.

I will use @Witness quote of A. Morris wording: “Despicable apostates" – “their finally gonna be gone, all these despicable enemies that have just reproached Jehovah’s name, destroyed; never ever to live again”.
What principle and what/whose faith you have to imitate, showed in A. Morris practice?

What is your suggestion about problem; How to explain to individual who is in delusion he/she is in error?
 

I am amazed at the many fingers of delusion in the organization.  The belief system remains intact in the majority of JW minds, no matter what “delusion” is presented, temporarily established, and then later rejected.  The main delusion, the inner core of the organization’s existence as reality and approved by God, is…as 2 Thess 2:11 says, “powerful”.
“Delusion” - Delusions are characterized by an unshakable belief in things that are not true, and often, there is a continued belief in the delusion despite contrary evidence. Not all delusions are the same.
A few types:
Erotomanic
In this type of delusion, individuals believe that a person—usually with a higher social standing—is in love with them. 
“The GB loves you very much!”
Grandiose
In grandiose delusions, individuals believe they have extraordinary talent, fame, wealth, or power despite the lack of evidence. An instance of this type of delusion would be someone who believes God gave them the power to save the universe  organization, and every day they complete certain tasks that will help the planet  organization continue on.
Persecutory
Individuals with persecutory delusions believe they are being spied on, drugged, followed, slandered, cheated on, or somehow mistreated. 
“Despicable apostates" – “their finally gonna be gone, all these despicable enemies that have just reproached Jehovah’s name, destroyed; never ever to live again”.
“It’s important for anyone experiencing delusions to seek professional help. This can be especially challenging, however, since people experiencing delusions often don't think of their beliefs as a problem because, by definition, the person experiencing delusions believes their experience to be fact.  Consequently, it is often concerned loved ones who must bring the issue to the attention of a healthcare professional.” https://www.verywellmind.com/definition-of-delusion-4580458#:~:text=Delusions are characterized by an,theoretically occur in real life.
 
Jer 14:14 - Then the Lord said to me, “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds.”
“delusions”:  H457 - “a thing of nought” - good for nothing, by analogy vain or vanity; specifically an idol:—idol, no value, thing of nought.
The organization as an idol – “good for nothing”.  If it was good for something, the fingers of over 100 years of delusionary teachings, wouldn’t exist. 
I know, but what about the preaching work, spreading the "good news of the kingdom"?  It is never good news to lead people into an organization where it is historically proven, that delusions have existed and will continue to exist.  Truth can never be established on delusions!   
2 Thess 2:9-12 - "The coming of the lawless one…(that tramples down the anointed Temple of God – 2 Thess 2:3,4) will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth - the reality - and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth – the reality -  but have delighted in wickedness."
“delusion” – G4108 - objectively, fraudulence; subjectively, a straying from orthodoxy or piety:—deceit, to deceive, delusion, error.
Deception, delusion, error.  Which one does the GB admit to?  They admit to the one that people who refuse to look at reality, excuse them for.  
 
 
 

Hypothetical question: Do God’s people sin (make errors) more when they are disorganized or when they are organized?
The second hypothetical question: If all these various customs and dogmas and interpretations and religious traditions that had (was part of) various “assemblies of God” through the past, became questionable and rejected in WTJWorg today, what is the problem?
God, according to the idea presented by you and WTJWorg, has always had an "organization," but every real or imagined "organization" has never had a complete and accurate "truth." No “organization” has had “truth” in the past, and it does not exist today according to what is seen in any religion, including WTJWorg.
What can be concluded is that religious “truth” exists only for a while and that is while it is supported by religious leaders and believers. After a while these same or some other people change their “understanding of the truth” and (people) are always in a state of religious “error”.
It is fortunate for JW people that God repeatedly accepts every delusion that occurs in "his organization."
How long, how much longer, will it go like this?