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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to xero in Conscience individual and collective   
    Consider how the bible shows so many actions taken, but not commanded by Jehovah on the part of his worshippers. One that comes to mind is the burial practices. The bible is silent as to any commands w/regard to burial and yet one would likely believe that these people had ideas about the body and resurrection which were in fact very, very wrong which neither Jehovah, not the prophets, nor Jesus himself, nor the 1st century congregation chose to address.
    If we had a twitter or blogs or were present in the midst of the congregation of Gods people over the ages we'd certainly see and hear much which was wrong. None of this, of course meant these people weren't part of God's organized people.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Why I had to choose my own family over being a Jehovah’s Witness..... By JODIE CHAPMAN   
    The Watchtower and the CCJW / JW org will fall as will all false religions. 
    But when a True Anointed remnant stand up and act, I will be ready to join them as per scripture 
    Zechariah 8:23
    Berean Study Bible
    This is what the LORD of Hosts says: “In those days ten men from the nations of every tongue will tightly grasp the robe of a Jew, saying, ‘Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.’ ”
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in The Jehovah’s Witnesses have taken legal action against Australia’s charity watchdog...   
    Wow I've been missing some fun here then. But we all know the GB backed down at the last minute because they would have lost the charity status that it has. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in 4Jah2me <> Cesar Chavez   
    Okay then.  I guess we'll see if your "fruit" remains - if it proves to be true; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.  🙂    1 John 4:1
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to BroRando in 4Jah2me <> Cesar Chavez   
    Wtiness....  you have been collected also.  🥵
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to BroRando in 4Jah2me <> Cesar Chavez   
    Sinning against Holy Spirit is an unforgivable sin 4Jah2me. That is why you're weeping and gnashing your teeth. Enjoy the hot bath... 🥵
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in The Jehovah’s Witnesses have taken legal action against Australia’s charity watchdog...   
    Well you, seems to me, agree, how GB in 1941 were not been "guided by spirit" but by own jargon, slang of that time. And JW members fell under GB slang influence, instead HS influence.
    Subject is: Who is to blame for misinformation?
    Don't forget. @Witness made update. 
    .............WTJWorg made updates (with new optional "dates" for Armageddon). :))
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in The Jehovah’s Witnesses have taken legal action against Australia’s charity watchdog...   
    Just another thought.  Did the Wt. retract their "news" (hogwash) about God sending a typhoon to Micronesia?  I haven't seen a retraction as of yet. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in The Jehovah’s Witnesses have taken legal action against Australia’s charity watchdog...   
    @TrueTomHarley, If you'll remember at the outset, I said:
    If I was weaselly, I would not have brought the correction to this forum that the Australian made, as soon as I saw it.
    These words, I will always stand by:
    And:
    Mark 4:14 - "For whatever is hidden is meant to be disclosed, and whatever is concealed is meant to be brought out into the open."
    For you, is it more important that article turned out to be wrong than the whole reason that the Wt dragged its feet before joining the redress scheme?  Were you quiet when you learned that the WT caved at the last minute simply because they would lose money otherwise? Did you write about it?  Did you make excuses for them?  The victims do not matter.  
    News, truly it is not always trustworthy.  Much like the news from Micronesia a while back, in need of sand to build a kingdom hall.  Next thing you know, God sends a typhoon and lo and behold...sand in abundance!   But, your god must be fickle, since another typhoon took the lives of JWs who took refuge in a kingdom hall in the Philippines.  
    Perhaps if you write about it, you can make sense of the contradiction.  Just maybe, you will spot the false news, now that more news about typhoons and kingdom halls, has emerged.  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in The Jehovah’s Witnesses have taken legal action against Australia’s charity watchdog...   
    Do I have a basis for yet another story of false news being so eagerly related and almost immediately thereafter declared hogwash? 
    https://www.tomsheepandgoats.com/2019/01/hey-guys-sorry-about-that-mother-of-all-lies.html
    Yes, yes—big print. I got it, you ol battle ax—a prominent retraction.
    Would that it would prevent your next breathless heralding of your wishful thinking as though fact.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in The Jehovah’s Witnesses have taken legal action against Australia’s charity watchdog...   
    I "reposted" WTJWorg lies about 1941. Who are you going to blame? Me or WTJWorg Company?
    Cartons of Children that had been deposited in The Arena were now opened, and Judge Rutherford instructed the children how to come and each get a copy thereof, those in the rear half of The Arena marching in two columns out through a side exit, and those in the front half of The Arena marching up over the platform and out through a rear exit. As the march began, the orchestra (minus all its children instrumentalists) struck up and rendered songs, "Children of the Heavenly King," "The Sword of the Lord and of Gideon," and "Who Is on the Lord's Side'" while the vast audience sang. Never was there a more moving Sight in these "last days". Many, including strong men, wept at the demonstration. Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided Instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon. What a gift I and to so many! The manner of releasing the new book Children was an outnght surprise to all, but the almighty hand of the All-wise One, Jehovah, was in it, and the maneuver was most blessed indeed. Thereafter Children, the author's edition, was disposed of to adult conventioners, on a contribution.    Wt, September 15 Page 288
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in The Jehovah’s Witnesses have taken legal action against Australia’s charity watchdog...   
    What will become of this forum once Cesar Chavez/Billy the Kid/Allen Smith/Felix the Cat/....etc...
    ...finally explodes?  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in The Jehovah’s Witnesses have taken legal action against Australia’s charity watchdog...   
    Anyone can make a court case and still lie, still cover their sins.  See the video.
    Firstly, if the Wt is hiding pertinent information, and it is found out, would the treatment doled out on them, be unfair?  Wt fights tooth and nail, whether they are right or wrong.       
    1 Cor 6:7 - Actually, if you are bringing lawsuits against each other, it is already a defeat for you. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated?
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in The Jehovah’s Witnesses have taken legal action against Australia’s charity watchdog...   
    For now, this is the only statement that counts. It could change, but for now O’Brien is the way to go.
    These other opposing characters live on fumes and wishful thinking, reporting the slightest rumor as fact. We have seen 4Jah quoting a lawyer’s advertisement for clients as though it were a news item. (and then not backing down when called on it!!) Well, no advertising would ever say something not true, is his position. Does it become clear why some here have unkindly called him a dodo?
    Lloyd’s chum did the same, heralding rumor to the heavens, and then removing it. He certainly didn’t want to contribute to the “lying apostate” stereotype, and to prove it, he resolved to take down the mother of all lies he had posted, after it had registered with the gullible ones.
    https://www.tomsheepandgoats.com/2019/01/hey-guys-sorry-about-that-mother-of-all-lies.html
    For now, it is enough to know that the underlying rationale is bogus—not completely hogwash, but shamelessly overstated, as Holly Folk pointed out:
    https://www.tomsheepandgoats.com/2021/02/holly-folk-speaks-to-child-sexual-abuse-among-jehovahs-witnesses.html
    Who knows? Should it turn out as Witness hopes, maybe Australia will become another France, which imposed a 60% tax on Witness finances that took many years for the ECHR to throw out as discriminatory.
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in The Jehovah’s Witnesses have taken legal action against Australia’s charity watchdog...   
    They are transparent because they have made a court case. When you go to court the finances will be scrutinized.  If they were hiding something they would just accept unfair treatment and keep quiet.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in The Jehovah’s Witnesses have taken legal action against Australia’s charity watchdog...   
    I didn't write the heading.  I provided the link where you can find it.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in The Jehovah’s Witnesses have taken legal action against Australia’s charity watchdog...   
    "For there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed, and nothing concealed that will not be brought to light."  Mark 4:22
    Then perhaps they could be transparent, instead of "opaque".  What do they have to hide?
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in The Jehovah’s Witnesses have taken legal action against Australia’s charity watchdog...   
    We do give aid to others. And in this time of lockdown,  it has become crucial - so they need money to do this.... It does not fall like manna from heaven......
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in The Jehovah’s Witnesses have taken legal action against Australia’s charity watchdog...   
    that is an opinion - your opinion... don't bother to reply in a barrage.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in The Jehovah’s Witnesses have taken legal action against Australia’s charity watchdog...   
    Jehovah’s Witnesses facing tax turmoil
    The secretive Christian group has begun legal action against the charity watchdog after it quietly revoked the organisation’s tax-exempt status over concerns with its opaque global structure.   https://www.theaustralian.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?offerset=ta_4for4_premium&sourceCode=TAWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theaustralian.com.au%2Fnation%2Fjehovahs-witnesses-facing-tax-turmoil%2Fnews-story%2F64acd93d531eb6b7301dda758e7ee2ff&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&adobe_mc_sdid=SDID%3D7EC7ED7628D12DA5-58A80C25FED2095D|MCORGID%3D5FE61C8B533204850A490D4D%40AdobeOrg|TS%3D1618785359&adobe_mc_ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
    I received this alert in my Google feed as well as the exjw who posted it.  I am not getting a subscription to the Australian newspaper to verify the article.  I'll leave that up to the readers here. I am sure it will come out in other news sites soon.  As usual, the organization puts money ahead of the lives of individuals.
    This is the copied article supplied by the exjw:
    The Jehovah’s Witnesses have taken legal action against Australia’s charity watchdog after it ­revoked the organisation’s tax-­exempt status over concerns with the religion’s opaque global donations structure and alleged failure to protect vulnerable people.
    The organisation’s charitable arm, the Watchtower Bible and Tract ­Society of Australia, which posted an income of $32m in the year to August 31, has been ­accused of pushing cash offshore after directors splashed $16m of its total expenses on undisclosed­ ­donations and “overseas aid”.
    The Australian Charities and Not-for-profits Commission informed Watchtower in November of its intention to revoke the ­organisation’s charity status, citing a litany of concerns about alleged contraventions of the Corporations Act and a failure to comply with a host of governance and conduct standards.
    Lawyer and abuse survivor Alec Spencer, a PhD candidate at James Cook University, said the ACNC’s decision was comparable to the abolition of the so-called “Ellis defence” in NSW in 2018, which ended the Catholic Church’s long-standing immunity to lawsuits.
    “If registration were to be removed, it would serve as a wake-up call for many other religious charities who have systemically failed to protect sexually abused children,” he said.
    “The removal of charitable registration would be an extraordinary outcome, both for the commission and the religious charity sector in particular.”
    The charity, which is seeking judicial review of the ACNC’s ­decision in the Federal Court, has been accused of “operating outside of Australia” and breaching its requirement to protect vulnerable people, including children, when conducting operations overseas.
    In a statement, Watchtower ­director Terry O’Brien denied the ACNC had moved to strip the ­organisation of its charity registration. “The ACNC has assured the ­directors that they do not intend to revoke Watchtower Australia’s charity status,” Mr O’Brien said.
    However, court documents filed last week reveal the ACNC sent a notice to revoke Watchtower’s charity registration to the group’s directors in November.
    The ACNC has accused Watchtower’s directors of failing to comply with key conduct standards, including a requirement to disclose conflicts of interest and a requirement to protect children who are accessing benefits under the charity’s programs.
    If the court upholds the ACNC’s decision, Watchtower will lose its status as a registered charity and will not be entitled to receive tax concessions, including lucrative tax breaks.
    According to an application for judicial review filed by Watch­tower, the ACNC’s decision is ­“unlawful” and an “unreasonable and inappropriate exercise” of its discretion.
    The organisation, which has nearly 70,000 members in Australia, has allocated almost $120m from 2014-20 to “donations and overseas aid”.
    “As a donor, I would be very troubled by this,” Mr Spencer said. “And as a regulator, their hands are tied due to the differential treatment bestowed on basic ­religious charities.
    “The ACNC could deregister a charity but the decision and why that occurs is not disclosed,” he said. “It allows them to operate in a cloud of secrecy.”
    Watchtower argues that the decision contains multiple errors of law, including that the legislation confers “no function with respect to child protection” on the ACNC.
    The Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse warned that there were systemic problems within the ­Jehovah’s Witness religion in dealing with abuse, including a failure to report credible alle­gations to the police.
    The commission heard Jehovah’s Witnesses had documen­tation of abuse allegations by 1800 children involving more than 1000 perpetrators since 1950.
    Former church member and child abuse survivor Lara Kaput said revocation of Watchtower’s charity status would be a “watershed moment” if it were upheld by the Federal Court.
    “They were reticent to revoke their charity status because the charity commission knew it would set a precedent, and they don’t want that to happen,” Ms Kaput said.
    An ACNC spokeswoman said it was unable to comment on the “particular circumstances of a charity” and whether or not a charity was being investigated.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in Why I had to choose my own family over being a Jehovah’s Witness..... By JODIE CHAPMAN   
    Wow, this sums up the Watchtower and CCJW / JW Org all in one. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Why I had to choose my own family over being a Jehovah’s Witness..... By JODIE CHAPMAN   
    Wow, this sums up the Watchtower and CCJW / JW Org all in one. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Ray Devereaux in 4Jah2me <> Cesar Chavez   
    What is your first language ? Probably not English unless you were drunk when you wrote the above. None of it makes any sense.
    A. I don't have 20 years of any letters. B. I am not keeping a fornicator in the Org. 
    C. This FORUM is about Jehovah's Witnesses, Hence I speak about THEM. Why would i want to talk about the Catholic Church, or any other, on a JW forum ? 
    D. Everyone lives in the world, and you could therefore say that everyone lives in a 'paedophile world' as it is part of the world we all live in. 
    Jesus said  (recorded at John 17 v 15 )  ( New American Standard Bible ) 
    "I do not ask You to take them out of the world, but to keep them from the evil one.
    So you see, we are all in this world. But your GB are still withholding evidence about Paedophiles in the CCJW. So, your GB are guilty of great sins against God, Christ and humans. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Ray Devereaux in 4Jah2me <> Cesar Chavez   
    @César Chávez My morals are not perfect, but then, I'm not trying to run an organisation and I'm not trying to mislead millions of people either. I also don't expect to be in that New World.  I am a hater in one way though. As the Apostle Paul said at Romans 12 v 9 "Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good".  So my hate is directed by scripture which is inspired of God's holy spirit. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Ray Devereaux in 4Jah2me <> Cesar Chavez   
    Wow Admin, will i win a prize for having the most topics on the forum 
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