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Would that discussion include that 'new book' mentioned on this forum about The Sealing of the 144,000.  

I prefer not to compare people or things. I don't compare myself to others.  If I'm going to compare myself it will be to Bible standards.  Xero seems to be pointing people toward being competitive, which i don't think is good.  I think Jesus told the disciples not to do it. 

Matthew 28 from verse 18.
Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19  Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20  teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.”
Jesus was resurrected by his Father, Almighty God. That in itself proves Jesus had God's complete approval....  So you can see that when Jesus was resurrected as a spirit he was also given ALL AUTHORITY IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH. 
Your leaders the GB just cannot accept that Jesus received the authority immediately after his resurrection. But then your leaders the GB cannot even obey the words of Jesus about baptism either. 
Your GB prove to be false or dishonest anointed but still you JWs follow them 
 

Matthew 28 from verse 18.
Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19  Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20  teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.”
Jesus was resurrected by his Father, Almighty God. That in itself proves Jesus had God's complete approval....  So you can see that when Jesus was resurrected as a spirit he was also given ALL AUTHORITY IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH. 
Your leaders the GB just cannot accept that Jesus received the authority immediately after his resurrection. But then your leaders the GB cannot even obey the words of Jesus about baptism either. 
Your GB prove to be false or dishonest anointed but still you JWs follow them 
 

Matthew 28 from verse 18.
Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19  Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20  teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.”
Jesus was resurrected by his Father, Almighty God. That in itself proves Jesus had God's complete approval....  So you can see that when Jesus was resurrected as a spirit he was also given ALL AUTHORITY IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH. 
Your leaders the GB just cannot accept that Jesus received the authority immediately after his resurrection. But then your leaders the GB cannot even obey the words of Jesus about baptism either. 
Your GB prove to be false or dishonest anointed but still you JWs follow them 
 

Would that discussion include that 'new book' mentioned on this forum about The Sealing of the 144,000.  

I prefer not to compare people or things. I don't compare myself to others.  If I'm going to compare myself it will be to Bible standards.  Xero seems to be pointing people toward being competitive, which i don't think is good.  I think Jesus told the disciples not to do it. 

It is true that Satan is on the warpath because he is soon to lose his kingdom. (Rev 20:7-9)  But what happened in 1914 was not because Jesus became King.  Satan was accommodating a false prophesy. Jesus became king in the first century.  
(John 18:33,36,37; Matt 21:1-5; Luke 17:21; 1 Pet 3:22; Matt 28:18; Eph 1:20; Ps 110:1; 1 Cor 15:25; 2 Pet 3:8; Mat 12:8; Isa 60:22)
The literal signs of the end times that you and Wt state are the result of Jesus’ kingship, happened in Satan’s realm. Jesus said his kingdom is no part of this world. (John 18:36) Why then, would the signs of his kingdom in power show literal signs in the world?  The “war” is not fought on the ground, but as     Eph 6:12 says, it is fought in the heavenly realms, unseen to the physical eye. That is where the “signs” take on a symbolic meaning.  Satan is the author of deceit and confusion, just as the historic teaching of 1914 has proven to be.  If we look for literal signs of worldly havoc on the earth, then who’s to say another point in history could have been chosen otherwise, as a sign of Jesus’ “invisible” reign?  WWII was the deadliest war in history.  Why not chose 1939 as the date Jesus became a reigning king?  
The organization is no different than the early Jews, who expected Jesus to provide them with literal signs.
Then the Pharisees and Sadducees came, and testing Him asked that He would show them a sign from heaven. 2 He answered and said to them, “When it is evening you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red’; 3 and in the morning, ‘It will be foul weather today, for the sky is red and threatening.’ Hypocrites! You know how to discern the face of the sky, but you cannot discern the signs of the times. 4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.” And He left them and departed. Matt 16:1-4
Do you see?  We are not to look at the literal “face of the sky” to observe when Jesus began ruling, or a specific date for the end of the world.  But, whatever JWs want to see, Satan will provide it.
 When Jesus said,
“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.”  Matt 24:29
…is he meaning literal signs on the face of the sky? What are the “heavens” that will be shaken?  The “moon” is the promised “woman” New Covenant, her seed are the anointed heavenly “stars”.  Do you see how they can be “heavenly” even though they are on the earth? (Gal 4:26; Heb 12:22; Rev 12:1,2;1:20; Dan 12:3) It is through them, through their “tribulation” that the Kingdom of God will be ushered in. It is THEY, who are “shaken”.   (Heb 12:25-29; Rev 6:13; Dan 8:10)  These “earthquakes” that Jesus speaks of in Matt 24:7, this shaking, is the harvest of the “sons of the kingdom”, of “Israel”.  (Matt 13:37-43)
Amos 9:9 – “For I will give the command, and I will shake the people of Israel among all the nations as grain is shaken in a sieve, and not a pebble will reach the ground. All the sinners among My people
    will die by the sword,
all those who say,
    ‘Disaster will not overtake or meet us.’”  ( 1 Thess 5:3)  (Do you believe you will be saved from disaster as a member of the organization?)
Be assured, Satan is quite capable of throwing you a curve ball to draw you away from the true “war” at hand. The tribulation has to do with those under covenant, accepting lies that Satan and his agents put before them, or defending truth that must be received by rejecting the lies, at the cost of the life they once enjoyed. (Rev 3:18) They must follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, and not the teachings of men who devise their own doctrine.  (Rev 13:1,2,5-7,11,12,15; 16:13-16) (Matt 10:18,22,39; John 16:2)
Yet, JWs seem to love “new” doctrine.  Jer 2:31,35,36; 5:31
By taking 1914, a date said to be the “birth” of Kingdom, that the “day of the lord” has come, your whole premise of calculating when the world will end, has no meaning.  Do you also believe that labor pains follow a birth as your leaders do? 
w53 12/15 p. 756-757 - The kingdoms of this world had their death warrant sealed when the “appointed times of the nations” expired in 1914. They cannot stand up against the kingdom that was then born in the heavens. 
ws13 7/15 p. 4-5 - So the war that began in 1914 was not the beginning of the great tribulation. It was the “beginning of pangs of distress.” (Matthew 24:8) 
The accurate translation for “pangs of distress” in Matt 24:8:
ὠδίν ōdín, o-deen'; akin to G3601; a pang or throe, especially of childbirth:—pain, sorrow, travail.
Check the rendition for this scripture in various translations. You will find that the general use is “birth pangs”. 
The same word is found in 1 Thess 5:3 – “For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail G5604 upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.”
You are believing that a kingdom was “born”, and its evidence is the “birth pangs” that follow the birth.  Does this make sense?  The Kingdom that will be “born”, is God’s Kingdom, and this is through the fulfillment of the “woman” New Covenant – the Temple of “living stones” reaching completion, when the capstone is sealed.  Zech 4:7-9
How is it you can quote scriptures guarding against false predictions, but then decide it is okay to calculate a year when the world will end?  Isn’t this showing disrespect for caution outlined in the God's word?  Although the apostles spoke of the day being close, they never set a date.  Are you greater than these men, the foundation stones of truth? (Eph 2:20-22) Have you been told by God through a vision to provide us with a date?  Or, did you get out your calculator and put numbers together, just as all the leaders of the Wt have done?  I know I’m blunt, but please, think about the ramifications of going against the admonition outlined in the Word of God.
"Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the Day of the Lord  has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God." 2 Thess 2:1-4
 
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I could be wrong, but I think what you're trying to say is that I should start a discussion about 1914, the Kingdom, and 607 BCE, and the parousia.

Motu Tane is beautiful and whole video. Have some idea how to earn 39 million or even more? Of course, according to individual "conscience" :)).

It's all about being politically correct. Some nations are more sensitive to justified criticism than others. In some European countries it's ok to tell your best friend she's fat and needs to lose weight.. in other countries that would be called fat shaming and is a no no. The other thing is than some people think that "false humility" is ok. It's nice to be honest, but many people can't take it. Today's society has become a bunch of snowflakes as JTR  (a former  member of the forum)  used to call them. And he was right. 

Are the “No Long-Winded Idiots” signs thrown in for free? If not, that would be the dealbreaker for me.
There’s no reason, when you’ve cleared 39 million, that you can’t hire a guy to paint a few signs.
I mean, come on! If I shell out 39 million, I should have to paint my own signs as well?

Well that was fun, thank you @Srecko Sostar . 

go then you won't be missed on here  

Here, let me help you.
 
(Foreword)
 
As a student of Prophecy, the passing of time often reveals the timing of such divine declarations. The Prophets that announced them do not always know the exact timing.  Although, the Prophet Ezekiel announced the coming of the destruction of Jerusalem over and over again stating, “An end is coming; the end will come; it will rouse itself against you. Look! It is coming.” (Ezekiel 7:6) It’s not likely he knew the hour and day of that destruction of Jerusalem, but that time limit can be found from two events. One was 390 days and the other 40 days. If we applied the pattern of a year for a day then both 390 years and the 40 years pointed to the destruction on 607 BCE.
 
In answer to the question “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?” Jesus Christ himself stated; “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matthew 24:36)  
 
However, in the Book of Daniel, Bible Prophecy did point to a specific time period. Taking the time limit of 2,520 years and adding them to the time of destruction of the temple in Jerusalem 607 BCE, the timing lined up to the year 1914 CE.
 
The Sealing of the 144,000 is now at hand. Another timed event that needs no guess work. Jesus replied to them: “Tear down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” (John 2:19) The Bible points out that Jesus was not talking about the temple made with hands, “But he was talking about the temple of his body.” (John 2:21)  Could the temple of his body be the 144,000 of his anointed followers also known as the Body of Christ?  
 
I hope you find reading this ebook entitled “The Sealing of the 144,000” insightful and inspires hope and confidence in your hearts as the day of Christ’s Millennial Reign approaches. 
 
Take Care,
Brother Rando
 

I too must be dragged kicking and screaming to this forum. Even picking my nose takes priority.

Once again this becomes a comedy forum. Is someone actually paying for this web space. I've no idea how forums are 'paid for'. Maybe by the advertisements ? 
It is a shame how xero has to keep showing his inner self to the world, and it is a shame how CC = Billy the kid has to keep spewing acid.  I thank you Tom for making it all so amusing... I'm only on here this morning as it's raining outside and i need to think of things to do.  Have a nice day everyone.  Oh, I note there is a new topic about a 'new book' = new light  
 
 

Once again this becomes a comedy forum. Is someone actually paying for this web space. I've no idea how forums are 'paid for'. Maybe by the advertisements ? 
It is a shame how xero has to keep showing his inner self to the world, and it is a shame how CC = Billy the kid has to keep spewing acid.  I thank you Tom for making it all so amusing... I'm only on here this morning as it's raining outside and i need to think of things to do.  Have a nice day everyone.  Oh, I note there is a new topic about a 'new book' = new light  
 
 

Discrimination has seemed to run through the Org from it's very beginning. Even Russell said that 'non white' people were of lower intelligence. 
 
And do you believe that this xero is really a JW ?  You know for sure that I am not...  
Does xero show any true Christian qualities ?    As for me I try to state facts, although i do tend to 'think aloud' too

And here we have it !   This is Xero at her best.  All this writing about 'conscience' was nothing but a smoke screen. It was all hiding his hate for his imagined Opposers.  She/he now tries to pretend that imagined Opposers are all of low intelligence. This makes Xero feel superior. Xero seems to have an inferiority complex. 
Just a quote here from Xero
Yes indeed. Moral pervert  = GB / Watchtower / JW org.  Child Sexual Abuse court cases. GB lawyers. Misused intelligence with no moral standing and no spirituality. 

This one is a laugh..... The GB are obviously led by the Devil, and prove it by telling the Anointed not to gather together and to threaten the True Anointed that they would be ' working against the Holy Spirit' if they did gather together. When Jesus told them they should gather together and to ask for things in His name.   The GB, led by their hearts, are frightened that the True Anointed will prove spiritually strong, so the GB listen to the Devil and do his work. 

And what therefore of a God ( so the GB pretend) that would kill you for not being a baptised JW ? 

And here we have it !   This is Xero at her best.  All this writing about 'conscience' was nothing but a smoke screen. It was all hiding his hate for his imagined Opposers.  She/he now tries to pretend that imagined Opposers are all of low intelligence. This makes Xero feel superior. Xero seems to have an inferiority complex. 
Just a quote here from Xero
Yes indeed. Moral pervert  = GB / Watchtower / JW org.  Child Sexual Abuse court cases. GB lawyers. Misused intelligence with no moral standing and no spirituality. 

This one is a laugh..... The GB are obviously led by the Devil, and prove it by telling the Anointed not to gather together and to threaten the True Anointed that they would be ' working against the Holy Spirit' if they did gather together. When Jesus told them they should gather together and to ask for things in His name.   The GB, led by their hearts, are frightened that the True Anointed will prove spiritually strong, so the GB listen to the Devil and do his work. 

And this is why people say, and this proves the point, that congregants ARE controlled / ruled over by the GB / WTS.
This really proves that JWs serve and put their faith in the GB and the W/t / JW org. 
And it's good to see that you recognise  that THREAT of disfellowshipping hanging over the congregation.