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I have no idea how he conducted himself later in life. Nor have I read either of his books. Doesn’t that make me less “apostate” than you?
 

Yes, just how many companies are there ?  They keep adding new ones, even real estate.. 

Mormons knock on a lot of doors too .  They teach lies as well. 

Mormons knock on a lot of doors too .  They teach lies as well. 

Amazing! Who force you to argue with people you called "scum" in your angry mind? Form your own Forum and put any alerts you want, for reason to not misleading people. 
I have nothing against putting “warnings” here, which would let JW members know that WTJWorg does not support (endorse) any Forum, not even this one, (because it is not under GB control) ......... but every “well-informed” JW already knows that. :))

Ex JW's imagine they have some kind of monopoly on hating their religion or that they are unique in any manner. A quick look at reddit (type in "ex-whatever") and you'll find plenty of people who are complaining about their experiences. It makes me wonder what a 1st century reddit would look like in this regard.
None of these human experiences, of course argue against organization. It does argue for being selective and taking responsibility for one's choices.
Now I've been poking around and I found this group and see how these decide what's important for them.
https://thegospelofchrist.com/bible-study-curriculi
I also found this:
http://oldpaths.com/Archive/Davison/Roy/Allen/1940/apostasy.html#XII
Every group makes decisions as to who is faithful and who isn't.
W/o some earthly entity grouped together to a certain concerted end, nothing happens. As it so happens, Jehovah's Witnesses have been quite clear as to what their message is - One morning before I could say a word to a man outside a convenience store he said "I'm not interested in Jehovah's Kingdom". I was quite surprised at the clarity of his response and that he knew before I approached, the end I had in mind. So This is the end to which the earthly arm of God's organization exists as manifested among JW's and it's been quite clear.
**Musing again....I wonder what the ratio of introvert to apostate is?
I'm willing to bet there are more introverts among apostates.

I think this is a good idea. I see that many people have used the Weekly Study Materials, even some elders that I know. And at least one of those elders was getting them from a MS who emailed them to all the elders after getting them here. As unlikely as it seems to some, there is always a chance that certain persons will start to believe that this site, especially this forum, is somehow "supportive" of the WTB&TS when it clearly is not always supportive. You can't have an open forum anywhere that is always supportive, because a forum will (should) always be a discussion of pros and cons, evidence and counter-evidence, opinions and counter-opinions, etc.
WTB&TS should probably be expanded to include CCJW, jw.org, etc.

Why would this be?
This is because it constitutes art fraud in the manner you use them. I wipe the phony pigment from your application and I see the painting of the cigar-smoking dogs at the poker table.

I can't help but imagine a dog drinking greedily from a toilet when I make the mistake of actually unblocking one of your replies.
 

You can read minds?  Or, do you have a crystal ball where you can watch all anointed in the organization where they go? You know the history of those who have left the organization?  
Again, the "good news" is preached to the "inhabited earth" - God's "land" - "Israel", as a "testimony to all the nations".   You're barking up the wrong tree; or I should say, you are knocking on the wrong door.  Okay, I'm leaving scriptures which I know bother you.  Just copy, and paste and them on biblegateway.  Perhaps you can see who receives the message in the last days.  I so wish you could.  
Ezek 3:4,18; Jer 25:29-31; Matt 24:14; 10:23; Rev 1:11; 11:1-5; 18:4-8

Wow.  You nailed it!

I know I'm the last person you want hear from again, but I hope you just reason on a few things.  
You are saying that everyone who abandons the organization are deceived, while everyone who remains in the organization; and listens to doctrine that out of necessity, must be changed…calling it “new light”…are not deceived.  Does this make sense to you?  Were you never deceived into believing in a doctrine, that eventually was replaced? Of course, all JWs have experienced this. Do you remember what D. Splane said about the locusts in Joel?  The man obviously had to cover over for the inability of past leaders to read Joel’s account.  In 2020, the GB have finally found out that the locusts came against Israel – and not that Israel WERE the locusts.  How many years did it take one of your insightful leaders to read that entire book, and find out otherwise?
To continually refer to Moses and King David by comparing these men to the GB is ignorance.  It’s like a plague among JWs.   These were prophetic, inspired men.  Is there any comparison of their trials, their sufferings, their accomplishments, to the GB?  What trials do these men face?  What to have for breakfast? What sort of ornate sewer cover should be used on the grounds at Warwick?    Didn’t the faithful ancient messengers of God, uphold the Word of God, even if they made a mistake?  Didn’t they feel incredibly guilty for their mistakes?  When was the last time the GB said, “I’m sorry.  I am guilty of misleading Your people, Heavenly Father, by teaching fabrications from my own mind”.  (Jer 23:16) But...that is the organization's history!  All of their false prophesies, their failed doctrine had no source in the Holy Spirit.  While, on the other hand, Moses, David, Jonah, were all led by Holy Spirit.  Has the GB ever announced to JWs, “we are so sorry for misleading you with LIES”.  (Isa 44:20,24,25)  No, they give you excuses, like the barking dog story.  I doubt that Jesus Christ will accept that excuse when he returns.  Matt 12:37
Yes, you are right, in that there are many who fall victim to deceit when leaving the Wt., but the deception is greatest inside the walls that are continually patched, repeatedly whitewashed, made “new”…only with one underlying reason, to deceive the “elect” and to keep them help captive to “philosophy and empty deceit based on human tradition, based on the elements of the world, rather than Christ.”  (Col 2:8; Matt 24:23-27)
What are the elements of the world?  Everything that has to do with the earthly organization.  
The bulk of the anointed “elect” are not found outside the Wt., but reside with all JWs, as a camp surrounded by demonic expressions.  (Rev 16:13-16; 20:7-10)
Just for a moment, look at the definition of “deceit”:
 “the act of causing someone to accept as true or valid what is false or invalid : the act or practice of deceiving : deception achieving one's goals through a web of deceit.”
Then, picture the Awake magazine with the physical generation of 1914 who have since, all died. They were deceived. It cannot be denied.    Which deception is greater, telling thousands of people that they will not die before Armageddon comes, or telling someone that they should believe in the trinity?
As far as unity, many religions, "Christian" and  pagan, are highly skilled at unifying its members.  It is nothing new. 
https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/topic/87861-exclusive-devotion/?tab=comments#comment-148084 
This is what the Lord God says: Woe to the foolish prophets who follow their own spirit and have seen nothing. 4 Your prophets, Israel, are like jackals among ruins. 5 You did not go up to the gaps or restore the wall around the house of Israel so that it might stand in battle on the day of the Lord. 6 They saw false visions and their divinations were a lie. They claimed, “This is the Lord’s declaration,” when the Lord did not send them, yet they wait for the fulfillment of their message. 7 Didn’t you see a false vision and speak a lying divination when you proclaimed, “This is the Lord’s declaration,” even though I had not spoken?  Ezek chapter 13
https://pearl-anillustration.blogspot.com/

No. As measured by the number of doors they have knocked on over the course of a lifetime, each one in order to present the good news of God. Some of your “true anointed” have barely knocked on any.

Full time service to other GB members and to a couple of Orgs W/t & JW. 

I use it to differentiate those who are Truly Anointed, from those that your GB say have 'mental illness' or those that maybe once were Anointed but have turned away from their calling ( including the GB).  

Musing...In view of the history of the bible, the false worship of the northern 10 tribes, their motivations for going where they went all through this to the defective Sanhedrin of the 1st century and the temple, the idea of complete perfection or even partial on the part of the earthly attempts of people to properly worship Jehovah seems misguided.
Anything thought of as "branching off" can never succeed.
Christians didn't think of themselves as "branching off", but as the main trunk.
Later Catholics may likewise have thought of their organization as corrupt and yet the one used by God.
Protestants formed any number of groups, trying various manners of propagations succeeding variously. Why? Because when these formed these formed around emotionally evocative differences which were thought to be critical to true worship. These usually began w/following men and usually ended because of following men - usually and more importantly particular men.
A field which is uncultivated and w/o cultivators ultimately ceases to be a field which produces fruit.
Increasingly Christendom fails to tend to the necessary business of weeding and identifying as weeds both beliefs and practices.
Is survival as a group an identifying mark of having God's favor? Not necessarily, but it is necessary to survive. Not surviving does indicate that the group splitting off was not following the right trail.
In the 1st century Jesus said to those hanging on his words of the scribes and pharisees whom he referred to as "hypocrites and offspring of vipers", that "all the things they say do and observe".
One might have thought that strange unless one understood that being used didn't equate to individual favor on the part of those being used.
So it's important to be able to distinguish if Jehovah is using any organization (I believe that he always has) (or organizations, if he is using more than one) we as individuals have to choose.
Which group is doing the best job in your view?
If so, then why not do your all to support it? In so doing there is no need to compromise your principles,or  your individual conscience if you understand properly how you must necessarily tolerate the idiosyncracies and readily perceptible deficiencies of the organization and those "taking the lead".
***Thinking aloud some more here

He USES faulty sinful men..men who make serious errors. ......there are no different people (in any sphere of life) on Earth than the ones you described. By this, He can use not only faulty sinful JW but also faulty sinful Catholic, Mormons, Adventist, politician, etc
In second part of your thought, are you suggesting that everything that is wrong in the Organization is actually inseparable part of God’s Plan ? Or, that because of the constant appearance of all that is wrong in the Organization, God's plan must be changed and adjusted over and over again?
Well, by that we could also say that the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil in Eden was a kind of sifting. However, there this tree was not only grew by accident, but was placed with the intent rather than by mere "allowing". 
With this thoughts, we can be closer to idea how JHVH participating in "guiding apostates sites" to "correct"  WTJWorg ? :))
 

JW TV have just enough "fine" examples of hate speech by "top" elders of Organization.

Each anointed one in the organization should stand up for Jesus Christ and speak truth when they see errors made in teachings, and cruel acts committed.  This is what is called following in Christ's footsteps.  God expects that of them.  God is not going to expect people to sit on their haunches until He fixes the errors. The apostles took Jesus' lead and "fixed" the errors.   Our hearts are judged by our stand for righteousness, or unrighteousness. If we "shrink back" out of fear, where do we stand before God? 
Does God LACK TRUST in JWs?  Are they defending Him, His Truth and His Son?  Or, are they kowtowing to men?  
 

You misunderstood me.  I was only replying to Srecko's comment, in particular.. 
 
Contrary to what you think, the WT is very much bothered by exjws and "opposers".  That's why they send out their sharks, to report back to the wolves about what's happening out there, with both exjws AND JWs.  
If they weren't "bothered", they wouldn't be up in arms about "despicable apostates".  They wouldn't attempt to shut down exjw youtube channels.  
You're really into the lawyer stuff and how necessary it is to guard your "watchtower".   Jesus condemned the lawyers in his day, because of their slanderous misuse and disregard for God's word, which is repeating itself in the organization.  Matt 23:13,15,23
The Wt's "kingdom" is in the world, fighting its worldly battles. 
Jesus' kingdom, is not.  John 18:36
 
 
 
 
 
 

The GB would not bother giving the warning, or forbidding JWs to "go there",  if they didn't have their sharks hunting the waters for them, who then report to the wolves.   Or, maybe in their spare time, in the privacy of their own room, the wolves also visit the forums, and listen to videos.  So, the sharks and the GB are immune to what happens on the forums.  They can thwart any demonic persuasion that they may read, while the rank and file are too ignorant to protect themselves?  
"I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Men will rise up even from your own number and distort the truth to lure the disciples into following them. 31 Therefore be on the alert, remembering that night and day for three years I never stopped warning each one of you with tears."
“lure the disciples into following them”. 
These wolves will not tolerate competition.  They are fierce competitors, disguised as sheep who offer "fruit", that has distorted the truth in Jesus Christ.  Matt 7:15-19 
 
 

One more thing.  Decades of full-time service are enough to call oneself the “faithful and discreet slave” appointed over God’s household of saints.  Is this correct?  Sheesh.  If that’s all that matters to you, why don’t you just join the Mormon Church?  All of their leaders are “apostles” and there are 12 of them!
You know, in Freemasonry, dedicated service can lead to an "anointing".  And they wear pinky rings also.
Didn't he lie about the child abuse issue?  Yes, he would lie.  Look how easy it is for you to lie.
 

So, you're checking in 3-4 times a day?  What are you even doing there? You're quite the liar, Tom.  3-4 "diatribes" per day?  I'm glad if I get anything posted there once a week.  Surely you remember who calls apostates "despicable", don't you? 
Upstaging?  Your wicked slave has upstaged all anointed in the organization and you don't see it.  Your elder body has upstaged the anointed priesthood, and you don't see it.  

Could you please tell me when I have elaborated on my anointing other than when you grilled me about it?  Can you target any time when I have exalted myself above my brothers and sisters in the organization?  Please, you've done this before and found that you had to take back your words.  
 
That means nothing.  Jesus told us how to detect an anointed sent by him.  Matt 7:15-19; John 15:15
Their "fruit"/teachings are good, never bad...and all of their teachings remain, never discarded.  

The point is that all you have to do to be ‘anointed’ is to say that you are. 
1 Corinthians 14:33 has it all backwards in that event—if anyone can stand up, say “I’m anointed,” and thereby command authority.
“For God is [a God], not of disorder, but of peace.” Switch it around assuming teaching capacity over others is so easily done. “God is not a God of peace, but of disorder,” better fits this new scenario.
Do I know that he is anointed? No, of course not. But I don’t know that of anyone, least of all you, who so immodestly terms yourself a “genuine anointed.”
At least with him, I can see many decades of full-time service, making it unlikely, after such sacred service, that he would lie. But with you? I see a Facebook page, and three or four bitter diatribes per day at those who you accuse of upstaging you and your cohorts.