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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in Jehovah's Witnesses to join redress scheme   
    I was walking along the dockside when I felt a brushing at my pocket. I clamped my hand down instantly upon another that was trying to lift my wallet!
    ”What hypocrisy!” the fellow bellowed. It’s all about money money money with you, isn’t it?!!!”
    Conscience-stricken, I handed over my wallet to him.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    ..."listening" to all this is better than the old 1950's Soap Opera TV shows, where pained expressions in close-up camera angles were accompanied by an off camera Organist providing the emphasis.
    ...at least back then you could get a free kitchen towel in every box of detergent ....
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Yes, well then you know how some of us here feel about your comments don't you.  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to xero in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    I'm sure he's a fine fellow, but it's still dull material under discussion. There are times when you knock on a door and then out pops a minister who wants to talk to you about how awesome the trinity is and you look down at your watch and say "Yeah....Not today."
     
    (I just re-read that...reminds me of the diffs between the puerto ricans and the mexicans in their use of spanish... My accent is mexican because of where I grew up on the border, but border spanish has a lot of nonstandard spanish that puerto ricans would always whine about when I used it. I'd say "Vamos a fencear la casa!" and they'd say "That's not real spanish" and I'd say "It is if you want your fence put up pronto", otherwise we'd of hired puerto ricans!
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    This is so hypocritical. It would be funny BUT it is very serious.
    BUT the GB and their Lawyers still refuse to hand over the Pedophile Database in America. 
    And here in UK the Bethel did not want to hand over information, but were taken to court and had to hand it over. 
    And the GB Lawyers have been seen on video whilst in court, Telling Lies. 
    And Elders claim Clergy Penitent Privilege so as not to give evidence against other Elders in court, but then the Org pretends that Elders are not Clergy.  So how can Elders claim that privilege if they are not clergy ? Hypocrites. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Anna in Jehovah's Witnesses to join redress scheme   
    No, I did not say this was fake news. It is true.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Ha ha Ha. Yes of course, especially when Elders take other people's children on the ministry and then abuse them out in the countryside. Or Elders take private bible studies with young children and molest the child during the 'study'. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    JW congregation does not have "Sunday School" and children are responsible(responsibility) of parents. But it seems how parents are not only one who "teaching own children", but MS and Elders are involved in this practice too, not only in Australia and not only in those states where this is obligated/legislated.
    Ok, than we see not only domestic/family program of teaching religious things to children, but Institutional Program/Settings with MS and Elders involved.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Thanks for fed back information  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to xero in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    You're on your own as far as I'm concerned. Two reasons,first your responses have a chat-bot quality to them and second none of this is interesting.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Ok. And what are your expectations about me and my comments? Perhaps other people have different view than you and will find it is acceptable to/for them. 
    How you came to such perspective, that i imagine something about myself? You don't have to answer, it is just my incidental thought. More important is, how does your "analysis" of me contribute to the matter we are talking about? 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    What a strange alliance has taken place, for 4Jah frequently makes this point as well.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Anna in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    4Jah2me already alluded to this in his previous comment, not sure if I should post this in this topic. It's merely informative: We will join the redress scheme in Australia after all.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2021/03/03/jehovahs-witnesses-redress-scheme/
    Worth noting:
    “Jehovah’s Witnesses did not voluntarily join because we object to the assertion that the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses assumes responsibility for children,” the group said.
    “Our objection is based on the fact that the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses does not and has not sponsored any activities that have resulted in children being under its care, custody, supervision, control or authority.”
    (Children have ALWAYS been the responsibility of the parents. Plain and simple).
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Anna in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    And we all know who you are 😂
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Anna in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    He keeps mentioning my name, and calling me apostate, maybe it's because I'm totally ignoring him 😂
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Yes, but none of you have any true answers as to why your GB / Leaders have got it wrong so many times, when they say they are the Faithful and Discreet slave. 
    Is God or Christ telling them lies ? If the GB / Leaders of the Watchtower are supposed to be the true source of spiritual food, then who is telling lies ?  Why would God or Christ mislead your GB / Leaders ? 
    The real reason is, of course, that your GB / Leaders are fake. They are not inspired of God's Holy Spirit because they are not the F&DS.  And you JWs are so hurt by those facts that you have to pretend you have answers. You have to keep serving Men, because it's all you know how to do. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Witness in Jehovah's Witnesses to join redress scheme   
    WHAT COMPLET HYPOCRISY. This truly shows the GB / Watchtower / JW Org for what they really are. 
    It's all about the money, money, money.  They do not care about people. 
    BUT they didn't 'believe that' earlier, when money wasn't involved.  
    THIS IS WHO YOU SERVE JWs. THESE ARE YOUR MASTERS, YOUR GB AND THEIR LAWYERS AND THEIR NON ANOINTED HELPERS. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to xero in Wheat, weeds and you   
    27  So the slaves of the master of the house came and said to him, ‘Master, did you not sow fine seed in your field? How, then, does it have weeds?’ 28  He said to them, ‘An enemy, a man, did this.’y The slaves said to him, ‘Do you want us, then, to go out and collect them?’ 29  He said, ‘No, for fear that while collecting the weeds, you uproot the wheat with them. 30  Let both grow together until the harvest, and in the harvest season, I will tell the reapers: First collect the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them up; then gather the wheat into my storehouse.’”z - Mt. 13:27-30
    We're not angels, and we could imagine we're wheat when we could be a bit on the weedy side. So it strikes me that the garden one has a right and responsibility to "weed" is that of one's own heart.
    Where groups and people go wrong is when these decide they need to engage in a bunch of weed whacking of someone or some group other than themselves.
    As long as two or more are gathered in Jesus name he said "I'm in their midst". So we have to find a place where we can associate w/people whom we feel are supporting our own efforts at self-weeding. The problem may come (and it often does) when we decide we need to readjust other people on matters unclear at present, or engage in endless harping on past behaviors or expectations. Jesus said "sufficient for each day is its own badness".
     
    18  “Now listen to the illustration of the man who sowed.q 19  Where anyone hears the word of the Kingdom but does not get the sense of it, the wicked one comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart; this is the one sown alongside the road.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Are you kidding me? She is the patient who begged the most.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    At the hospital I run, patients were clamoring for Dr. House. “He is so kind, so tactful, so understanding of weakness, so withholding of judgment!” they said. I couldn’t believe my ears. That ill-mannered lout is the one they wanted? True, he knows his stuff, but what a bedside manner!
    Then I checked the roster and saw that Dr Cesar was the other doctor on duty that night.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Nor do you take it from anyone else. At the tiniest contradiction from anyone you bristle. So unlike our Lord, the one whom we are to follow in his footsteps closely, who, when he was reviled did not go reviling in return. You revile at the drop of a pin.
    It is why I have thought “how can he be a Witness?” and have pretty much come to the conclusion you are not. On the other hand, you may be some sort of one, but are clearly an outlier. I make a mental scan of the hundreds, maybe thousands of Witnesses I know, and can think of none that would make such an abusive public spectacle of themselves, albeit that you do raise relevant points here and there. 
    Treat people as Jesus did, even those “who have doubts,” even those “unsteady,” even those who may seem in danger of drifting, even those who genuinely are opposed—Lord knows some of them are here—treat them as Jesus did and you will better establish your claim to be one of his followers.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    My point is that you pretend to be a JW, BUT the NWT does not include that scripture and you as a JW should know that.
    So, who do you believe, your GB's Bible or some other Bible ? 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Excuses excuses. Congregants would be d/fed for a hundred different reasons, BUT Elders and others were not d/fed for CSA. They were kept hidden in the congregations. 
    BUT I've still not had any true answers as to how Australia had more that 50 years worth of Pedophilia records, which it seems they handed over. 
    And America, where the Org began, pretends to only have 25 years of Pedophilia records on data base. AND I still haven't heard that your GB has handed all that data base over to the Superior Authorities.
    Add to this, that up until February last year (Pre-Covid virus) the GB were going to be arrested in connection with CSA. But it's all gone quiet now. i wonder why ? A very big back hander payout maybe ????? 
    Is the new American president going to legalize Child sex ?  I would not be at all surprised. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from César Chávez in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    xero is here pretending to be a JW Elder. Oh dear, well if he is a JW Elder it shows the very low level of JW Elders. 
    But i suppose he is just doing what JWs do, following the GB. Remember it is the GB that say some of the Anointed are mentally ill, or nut jobs as xero calls them here. 
    xero, you show yourself for what you are it seems. 
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