Patiently waiting for Truth

It is sad to see how so many JWs have been brainwashed by the GB through the Watchtower magazine and through the talks / videos etc. 
If you don't want to believe in the scripture at Zechariah 8:23 that is your choice. 
This is what the LORD Almighty says: "In those days ten people from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, 'Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you.'"
The True Anointed ones are that JEW.    Each of you must choose whom you will 'go with'. 
Yes, we serve God through Christ, but God is here showing that there IS a JEW, a True Anointed, to go with. How will you know that JEW if you do not inquire ? 

There is a massive difference between GOD'S instructions, and the instructions from your GB. But JWs think both are the same. 
 
 

Yes indeed Anna.  But isn't it strange that as we are nearer to Armageddon and we need to be more united, the GB place more restrictions on the Anointed ones, and more restrictions on anyone asking the Anointed ones questions.
Why would the GB do that ? 

John Butler was removed for suggesting that the GB might be removed and replaced. 
Then Billy the Kid twisted it that John Butler was threatening the GB. That upset some JW Elders here and it was taken as fact without any proof being required. 
John Butler was not even given one warning. He was just removed.  But this is all totally off topic. 

That's utter rubbish. Please @The Librariantell us, why was @JOHN BUTLER removed?

He was not removed for that reason.
Look, nothing has changed with this new identification of the GB with the faithful slave. Before that was made the situation was the same. Headship came from a small group of under a dozen who, for practical reasons, physically gather together. Should they need a replacement, they look into the ranks of anointed worldwide, and select one. It was that way before. It is that way now. 
Who do you think they are going to select? Someone who just recently began to partake, or one who has done so for a long time? Someone with relatively little experience in the Christian preaching work, or one who has specialized in it full-time for decades?
This is not hard to answer. Even before this arrangement, anointed within the congregations knew, were content with, and deported themselves, that their assignment was to rule in the new system, not now. But it has apparently become the thing that there are now some anointed, whether for real or “self-promoted”  I know not, whether associated with a congregation or on the outside I know not, who want to be NOW seen as having authority. It has never been that way. 
As far as I am concerned, Witness’s non-response to my request that she arrange the car group says it all. She bitterly complains on how sisters with many children are “ignored.” When I ask how would she handle the situation she herself presented she is silent. Yet she is not silent on everything. She continues to chime in about her being “cheated” out of her anointed status.
Someone really anointed, someone really concerned with the sheep, would not ignore the scenario she presented herself as a complaint. She would tell how it is solved. She may have been like that at one time. But she appears far too interested in self-promotion” these days for her to be so now.

There is a massive difference between GOD'S instructions, and the instructions from your GB. But JWs think both are the same. 
 
 

It turns out that the only important thing is to recognize those on JWTV who are set to teach the lessons.  
The job of the Administration is to silence any objection to their work, and to eliminate possible "competitors".
Yes, people can do that, surely. Perhaps is better to "taste" their deeds and words before we unconditionally (or conditionally) accept them as "distributors of spiritual food". 
Now one more thing. And when you accept them, it is not for eternity. Because anyone can go the wrong way, so it would be good not to follow him when we realize something is wrong.

I remember I asked an anointed brother once, how he knew he was anointed.  This allowed him to share his feelings and his desires to serve Christ.  There is nothing wrong with this, but it is exactly what your leaders are telling JWs not to do.  
Do you think, under this circumstance, that all anointed are going speak up and say, yes I am anointed?  Or, is there a huge possibility that many refuse to even partake, for fear of being judged as fakes, or mentally imbalanced?  Take those words, mentally imbalanced.  Since the organization stresses that there is a large possibility that anointed are not authentic because of this, don’t you think that many JWs will give someone a wide berth if they heard the person was anointed - thanks to the lies said about them?
The best safety measure then, is to leave them alone.  Don't ask them questions, especially what they may think about the teachings of the GB.  This is the message the GB is projecting.  Of course, the anointed are also told not to gather together to study the Bible.   Your leaders who receive "special treatment" tell JWs not to give this to any anointed one.  Why?  They will have a hard time remaining humble, as if those arrogant men have insight into the hearts of Christ's servants.
w16 January p. 24
 
Christ's word tell us how to treat anointed ones.  We should seek them out and learn from them, for they are the priests of God.  (Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9) 
 

Reminds me of the guy who tried to steady the ark and got zapped for his trouble.
6  But when they came to the threshing floor of Naʹcon, Uzʹzah thrust his hand out to the Ark of the true God and grabbed hold of it,i for the cattle nearly upset it. 7  At that Jehovah’s anger blazed against Uzʹzah, and the true God struck him downj there for his irreverent act,k and he died there beside the Ark of the true God. - 2 Sa. 6:6-7
Someone didn't follow instructions, someone thought "here! let me help!" - Wrong choice! Thanks for playing.

What are you talking about? Nobody is saying anyone should avoid the anointed.
 
You can accept the anointed without inquiring about their anointing surely? Or do you need them to talk to you about their anointing before you accept them? As for talking to them about how they feel about the truth, why on earth should you not be able to do that?

Do you think Jehovah lacks the power to correct the errors you talk about?
 
 
 

Whether someone is anointed or not, it concerns everyone.  These words of the GB are twisted, as usual.  The believers in the first century were well aware of those who were anointed.  Should it now stop knowing who they are?  And why?  Eight men hold power over all, that is why.  This is opinionated persuasion of men who have a devious underlying reason, for teaching JWs to avoid the anointed.  It is only to preserve their dominance.  Why do men’s opinions become law, with no backing of God’s Word?  Why don't JWs put Christ's teaching before the laws, decrees of men?
This is what Christ says:
John 13:20 - Truly I tell you, whoever receives anyone I send receives me, and the one who receives me receives him who sent me."
This shows, that avoiding any who claim to be anointed, as the WT stresses, could possibly result in rejecting not only Jesus Christ, but the Father.  This means knowing what is in their spiritual heart.  What gift have they received?  How can they contribute to the Body?  (1 Cor 12)
Matt 10:40,41 - "The one who welcomes you welcomes me, and the one who welcomes me welcomes him who sent me. 41 "Anyone who welcomes a prophet because he is a prophet will receive a prophet's reward. And anyone who welcomes a righteous person because he's righteous will receive a righteous person's reward.”
Matt 10:14,15 - "If anyone does not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that house or town. 15 "Truly I tell you, it will be more tolerable on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah than for that town.
So, the Wt wants the anointed to remain anonymous.   What if, within that group of anointed, there is a prophet, or a "righteous person"?  How will JWs react when Jesus asks, "why did you reject me"?  (Matt 10:42)  Why did you choose to listen to a false prophet instead of whom I sent?  (Matt 7:15-20)
Matt 10:24,25 - "A disciple is not above his teacher, or a slave above his master. 25 "It is enough for a disciple to become like his teacher and a slave like his master. If they called the head of the house 'Beelzebul,' how much more the members of his household!” 
In the case of Ray Franz who spoke up against the leadership, he was disfellowshipped for following God’s Word instead the governing body, and for exposing their lies.  He was labeled an apostate, which in reality was an act of sinning against the Holy Spirit committed by the leadership.  Whose side did the majority of JWs take?  Did they say he had an evil spirit for speaking against the GB?   Most likely.   
So most of the anointed have chosen to remain anonymous as they are told, for fear of being called into the back room?  Whatever the Spirit of truth placed in the heart is not used, since they cannot act upon who they are - as someone Jesus sent to reveal truth. (1 John 2:20; Mal 2:7)
John 15:5-8 - "I am the vine; you are the branches. The one who remains in me and I in him produces much fruit, because you can do nothing without me. 6 If anyone does not remain in me, he is thrown aside like a branch and he withers. They gather them, throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you want and it will be done for you. 8 My Father is glorified by this: that you produce much fruit and prove to be my disciples."
How can they prove to be disciples of Christ, if the anointed are told to reject any questions about who they are?  They are not producing "fruit", but selling what a false prophet has produced.  
There is always irony coming out of the GB's mouth.  In the annual meeting,  K. Cook mentioned the anointed, how all of JWs must take into account how they treat those in Christ.  He stated Jesus will judge us by how we accept them.  (Matt 10:42) Now, according the above quote, can anyone really "accept" the anointed if no one can inquire about their anointing, or how they feel about truth?   Oh, he also said the way to support them, is through the "preaching work". There you go, that is safe.  No possible challenge can be made against either the GB or the elder body.  We know that this work is regulated spiritual food, already dished out without any of the anointed taking part, except those of the wicked slave.   (Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:11,12,16)
In the harvest, we are "sorted" by the teachings we choose.  
"Dear Friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see if they are from God, because many false prophets have gone into the world".   1 John 4:1`
 
Thank you, Srecko!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Social pressure made by GB ? :))
@Anna Page 24, Par.10 “How can we show appropriate respect for those whom Jehovah chooses to anoint? We would not ask them personal  questions about their anointing. We thus avoid meddling with what does not concern us." -  WT Jan 2016 ,
.... source find  in interesting topic;
 

Like one brother said "Opinions are like elbows - everyone's got two"
I said, "but what about that brother w/one arm?"
He replied "good point!"

Why on Earth would the GB suddenly decide that ONLYTHEY are the Faithful and discreet Slave ? When the teaching was that ALL ANOINTED ONES were the Faithful and discreet Slave
Why on Earth would the GB then say that the Anointed SHOULD NOT GATHER TOGETHER as it would be WORKING AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT ?  
Why ? Well I think it shows jealousy or fear on the part of the GB and maybe others too. 

I think you just like playing games. I think it is an insult to God. But then a lot of what JWs do is an insult to God and Christ. 
 

I think it's safer to leave it there. Have a great day.

I prefer "Inexpensive" or "Frugal"
 

Are you saying you are 'cheap' ? 

Perhaps some do dedicate to an organization. But the same can be said for a true believer anywhere. People are always making idols out of something, someone or even some idea.
Whomever you obey, you worship. So if you find yourself obeying and internally transferring the authority to command away from Jehovah or Jesus or the Bible, then you're in dangerous territory.

I suppose I always blew off the anointed idea as having authority (to me it's sola scriptura all the way, even Jesus said "Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God" - Jehovah is the authority, Jesus is the authority, the scriptures have authority - balanced w/the need to allow for differences in consciences (to me, focus on anointed is a weak faith which I tolerate). Maybe it was a local phenomenon, but it was mostly weirdos or really old people who partook. Invariably some would just go nuts. I think some people mistake the voices in their heads for being special. The desire to worship the creation has a real pull on people.
The other issues I have with the whole thing (not saying that it's not real) is that there's no objective measurement to determine this thing.
It's not as if you could go to the Bible and establish a diagnostic criteria (a spiritual DSM manual) for cases of being anointed.
In one congregation there were some that had some weird theory about being anointed meant you could see some weird thing when you looked at the sky when the sun was setting. I didn't even bother investigating that. The sister was weird, she'd lost a daughter and her son was a musician and periodically had to deal w/alcohol issues. I chalked it up to distress and wanting to be special in some way. Her belief did at least for a time calm her down. I don't know how she is today.
We used to think that all this was moot. It was simple. If you were at the right place and the right time and the deal was if you became a "true christian", then you were a defacto "anointed".
So all the people from the 1st century on, if they were true, then they were anointed.
I wondered. "Is that even true?" "Why some and not others?". Of course it didn't matter so much to me, because if anyone was it wasn't my business. I never got the chance to ask (I would have if there wasn't so much social pressure to NOT ask).  Ostensibly it was a spiritual job interview process, like they're hiring 144k down at the factory and they need people w/various life skills and experiences. Once the slot got filled (you died w/the golden ticket) it would be 144k-1 and so on.
I still believe that this kingdom and it's rulers will be pulled from humanity, but whether someone is or isn't anointed - that's their problem unless they make it my problem by saying "If you don't believe X, Y, and Z are anointed, you're outta here." I certainly won't argue the point when it's been made manifest.
In any case in MT 25, not one of the righteous had a clue who Christ's brothers were. They treated all men equally. But we claim to know. Huh. Somehow we're smarter than the righteous.
 
 

I tuned into the annual meeting.🙂
 
Obviously, from the looks of one of them, his obesity - yes - stems from too much alcohol.  

I have noticed they are getting a little chubby, that does tend to happen with age. I would by no means call them obese though. Plus, as I mentioned, you don't know people's circumstances. In any case, I am wondering why, if you have such an aversion to them, you even know what they look like lately. Do you have an unhealthy obsession with them?

I don't suppose you have taken a good look at the governing body lately? Surely you've noticed a growth spurt among a few, such as A. Morris, G. Jackson, M. Sanderson, with K. Cook and G. Loesch not far behind.  Wow. that's 5 out of 8.  
Or, are they not considered part of the "brothers and sisters" who are "giving a bad witness"?