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@Arauna  you totally avoided the point. 
I said, show me where I have said that the Superior Authorities are above Almighty God. 
And of course you cannot show me, because I have never said it. 
My love for Almighty God and for Jesus Christ is steadfast.  None of you people here will change that. 
Whereas your love for your GB and the Watchtower / CCJW is a love of men, which God's word advises against. 

@Arauna  you totally avoided the point. 
I said, show me where I have said that the Superior Authorities are above Almighty God. 
And of course you cannot show me, because I have never said it. 
My love for Almighty God and for Jesus Christ is steadfast.  None of you people here will change that. 
Whereas your love for your GB and the Watchtower / CCJW is a love of men, which God's word advises against. 

I'm guess cleaning toilets was below him?
 

"Alternative service" in East Europe for JW's who refused go to military service.
If my memories serving me well, I heard that in Czechoslovakia (info from native bro and sis in Bratislava in the mid of 1980) they tell me how you can choose between going to prison for few years (and perhaps again if you refuse service after prison time) or going working to mine under contract, and have normal working time as all other civil person who are mine worker, going to home after work and so. Perhaps long life contract.
So, this "problem" in South Korea is just "piece of cake" :)))

Separation between religious and political things and decisions in Old Israel.

Sorry, you are wrong about premise that I am discriminator. Simply, i was raised from my childhood as part of JW Church and spend cca half of my life (it depend how long i will live ;)) ) as member of WTJWorg, and as such i can't speak in this way about Catholics or Adventists etc.   
Paul and Caesar example you brought is interesting. And it is different of what we have today as "politic" of WTJWorg and State Courts. As i can see, Paul preaching caused trouble to him. He made some activity in Temple and spoke about "new light" and against established priesthood. Reaction of people and establishment was expected. What he done? He tell few things that average JW's today will not tell as evidence for defending nor in every day life.
First thing. Paul said: I am a Roman! (Roman citizen), and by that identified self in a way that JW today not see themselves as important or even separated from this world who put nationality and nationalism as important (i am German, American, British etc). Paul done exactly opposite of JW members are thought today, to not put national belongings in first place. JW have to be neutral in such matters. They are "global citizens" not belong to any particular nation, but belong to New World Nation.
Second thing Paul done is his calling on his Higher Educational Level and belonging to Higher Class of Israel Society. He said, I am Pharisee!  Imagine, he openly said he is part of blamed group. Will JW today say,  Your Honor, I am professor (not janitor, so my words are important) and I am (ex) member of Catholic Priesthood.
Third thing.  Secular Courts don't want today to be involved in church theology and questions of church doctrines. And WTJWorg Lawyers using this very much and very good (in USA call for 1st Amendment, i guess). Well, Paul done opposite. He wanted  secular Judge to make decisions about religious questions. ;))  
Fourth thing. Paul didn't want go to Jerusalem Elders for jurisdiction process, but to secular, pagan Roman courts. Amazing. JW's today are instructed that all religious and even some secular questions need to be presented before Elders and GB Administration. And how it is shameful if they bring brother before "unbelievers". 
Please tell me, where and when we live today, and how Paul is role model for JW members in this matters?
 

I think @Srecko Sostar means who does one give 'service' to.  The Kings were supposed to represent God but at times they were disobedient. So then did a person serve the king, or disobey the king and serve God.  The answer of course  should be to serve God. But what of those men that helped David commit murder ? 
 

It has been common action for many years that the Watchtower / GB / JW Leaders deliberately misquote people and other organisations. @Srecko Sostar a long time ago gave a lovely example of this where the Watchtower has deliberately misquoted some one by chopping the centre out of a comment.  Now it seems, JWs here are doing similar with people's comments. 
My simple request is that if you do not fully understand what i have written, then simply ask me to explain.  But no, three JWs here deliberately twist my words.
@JW Insider  @Arauna @César Chávez et al. 
So, show me where I have written that the Superior Authorities of this earth are more important than Almighty God or Jesus Christ.  BUT get you quotes right. 
For I know I have never and will never even suggest that anyone or anything is superior to Almighty God. 
But you hypocrites will keep on twisting everything, even God's word. 
 

I think @Srecko Sostar means who does one give 'service' to.  The Kings were supposed to represent God but at times they were disobedient. So then did a person serve the king, or disobey the king and serve God.  The answer of course  should be to serve God. But what of those men that helped David commit murder ? 
 

As usual CC spouts rubbish or has no understanding of English. 
I said nothing about Jesus being called into 'service', nothing at all. I said Jesus was killed for serving God. 
And it is JWs that serve men. That was proven in WW2 when JWs were not allowed to have their own Christian conscience. They were not allowed to work on farms or elsewhere, JWs had to go to prison or be murdered just for the sake of the JW Leaders that deliberately misused scripture about the Superior Authorities.
As for the 'UK Human Rights Committee', I do not care about them. They are only 'men'. 
As for TTH, he always tends to think a person is not a 'real' JW if said person does something that he does not agree with. So be it. Is this person a real JW, who knows ?  I hope it doesn't have 'Branch support' as it could cause a lot of problems for people, as with misuse of the Romans scripture in WW2. 

Have I ever suggested this ?  I don't think i have.  Nothing or no one is above the authority of Almighty God. (Although we have the words of Jesus 'All authority has been given me....' but surely even Jesus in under his Father's authority)
However i do believe that the Leaders of the Watchtower / CCJW had placed themselves as such by misusing the Romans scripture during WW2 and up to the early 60's (I think). 
Now regarding your comment, and concerning Matthew 5 :41, Do you think your GB should decide this, or each JW should use their own conscience ?
And I think it would be good for people to remember that that ARE subject to 
By serving God through Christ sometimes people will be breaking the law of their land. Therefore those people will suffer the punishment for it. It is righteous to suffer for God and Christ, and there will be a promised reward. But make sure your suffering IS for God and Christ, not for men.

Billy the Kid, aka CC, I'm sorry you do not comprehend English. I'm of working class stock so no 'polishing' of my English needed. BUT as usual, you are deliberately way off topic. Stay cool dude. 

It has been common action for many years that the Watchtower / GB / JW Leaders deliberately misquote people and other organisations. @Srecko Sostar a long time ago gave a lovely example of this where the Watchtower has deliberately misquoted some one by chopping the centre out of a comment.  Now it seems, JWs here are doing similar with people's comments. 
My simple request is that if you do not fully understand what i have written, then simply ask me to explain.  But no, three JWs here deliberately twist my words.
@JW Insider  @Arauna @César Chávez et al. 
So, show me where I have written that the Superior Authorities of this earth are more important than Almighty God or Jesus Christ.  BUT get you quotes right. 
For I know I have never and will never even suggest that anyone or anything is superior to Almighty God. 
But you hypocrites will keep on twisting everything, even God's word. 
 

I think @Srecko Sostar means who does one give 'service' to.  The Kings were supposed to represent God but at times they were disobedient. So then did a person serve the king, or disobey the king and serve God.  The answer of course  should be to serve God. But what of those men that helped David commit murder ? 
 

What do you think about "separation" in Old Israel Theocratic State, in time of Saul, David, Solomon and others? Who obey and how - God JHVH vs Kings?

I guess how people will be in conflict about "give God and give Cesar", because this are Two Masters you have to please :)) and Bible is very clear with command to JW members; obey, be in subjection to secular government :))

Thanks to God JHVH, because he allowed "secular governments" and "secular people", who opposed the Nazi invasion with full force and enabled today’s freedom, even for those who refused to contribute to the Allied struggle, to win in that battles. 
Since the JW's believe that "gentile time" is over in 1914, do you think the YHVH intervened in historical events of 1941 and helped the "Allies" to overcome the "Axis Powers"? Because, under Hitler, WTJWorg could not serve God and preach and have congresses and other stuffs, so to speak. So, YHVH had an interest in one side winning and the other side losing, right? Can you prove that YHVH did not interfere in earthly conflicts od WWII, precisely because of your doctrine of “gentile time” which teaches how God’s passivity lasted 2520 years and ended in 1914, and because he, supposedly, create Earthly Part of his Government in Spiritual Paradise of WTJWorg. 
 Nazi German was a real threat to JW's to completely exterminate them from Europe. So, God would lose his "witnesses." How could that not happen, maybe he sent Michael again to oppose some another "Prince of Persia"? :))

Your answers give that impression. So for once in recent history  I agree with JWI

Billy the Kid, aka CC, I'm sorry you do not comprehend English. I'm of working class stock so no 'polishing' of my English needed. BUT as usual, you are deliberately way off topic. Stay cool dude. 

As usual CC spouts rubbish or has no understanding of English. 
I said nothing about Jesus being called into 'service', nothing at all. I said Jesus was killed for serving God. 
And it is JWs that serve men. That was proven in WW2 when JWs were not allowed to have their own Christian conscience. They were not allowed to work on farms or elsewhere, JWs had to go to prison or be murdered just for the sake of the JW Leaders that deliberately misused scripture about the Superior Authorities.
As for the 'UK Human Rights Committee', I do not care about them. They are only 'men'. 
As for TTH, he always tends to think a person is not a 'real' JW if said person does something that he does not agree with. So be it. Is this person a real JW, who knows ?  I hope it doesn't have 'Branch support' as it could cause a lot of problems for people, as with misuse of the Romans scripture in WW2. 

This has been a common theme of 4Jah2me's. The point about the GB and CSA have also been some of his pet peeves. I think the impression of Romans 13:1 is that we are subject to the secular authorities, including their laws, and punishments --but not that we subject ourselves to them as if their authority was above Jehovah's.
I think a more appropriate verse (allowing for conscientious alternative service) is the one Jesus gave here:
(Matthew 5:41) ". . . and if someone in authority compels you into service for a mile, go with him two miles. . ."
 

"In 2000, Taiwan implemented an alternative civilian service program that allows conscientious objectors to fulfill their obligation to perform national service without violating their conscience. Under this arrangement, those who conscientiously object to military service have been given the option to work in hospitals, in nursing homes, and in other areas of the public sector." - quote from link you provide.
"In particular, the petitioner insisted that two clauses of the law, which require 36 months of in-camp service twice the active-duty service duration of 18 months, run counter to the Constitution, due to their punitive nature." - quote from link 4Yah2me provide.
First, how much time last civilian service in Taiwan? And second, as we see, the place where the replacement service is performed is very different and it seems that working at local correctional facilities is "uncomfortable", to petitioner,  compared to what is offered in Taiwan.
Third, GB WTJWorg are not willing to agree to any kind of "civil service". In the past they objected to the jurisdiction (who is in charge) of the civil service, and similar.  GB can be picky. :)))

Hey, thank for the link. The witnesses believe they are above the superior authorities somehow. Jehovah put these governments in place for the witnesses to be “in subjection” to, (Romans 13:1), but somehow they don’t believe this. What can you expect though, their own governing body disrespects Jehovah by fighting the superior authorities that He put in place as they hire powerful lawyers, lie their way out of court cases and do anything and everything in their power so they don’t have to be in subjection to them. Just look at the way they’ve handled CSA cases.

https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20210127003800315?section=national/defense
SEOUL, Jan. 27 (Yonhap) -- A conscientious objector, now carrying out his alternative military service as a prison staff member under the current law after refusing to enlist for religious reasons, has filed a constitutional appeal contending that the alternative military service law is unconstitutional due to its punitive nature, judicial officials said Wednesday.
By law, all able-bodied South Korean men must carry out military service for 18 to 22 months. But the National Assembly passed the Act on the Assignment and Performance of the Alternative Service in 2019, allowing conscientious objectors who refuse to take up arms for religious reasons to do 36 months of alternative service at local correctional facilities.
According to the officials, the conscientious objector, who began his alternative military service at a local prison last year, filed the petition with the Constitutional Court on Monday, saying that the alternative service act violates the freedom of conscience and the rights to happiness and equality. In particular, the petitioner insisted that two clauses of the law, which require 36 months of in-camp service twice the active-duty service duration of 18 months, run counter to the Constitution, due to their punitive nature.
It is the first time that a constitutional petition has been filed in relation to the alternative service law.
The petitioner has been known as a believer of Jehovah's Witnesses, who was recognized by the Supreme Court as a conscientious objector last year.
Discussions on the alternative military service began after the Constitutional Court, while upholding the criminalization of conscientious objection, ruled in June 2018 that not allowing alternative measures for military service objectors does not conform to the Constitution.
Following the parliamentary passage of the alternative service law in December 2019, the first batch of 63 men began their assignments at local detention facilities, such as serving and cooking meals and supporting facility management, in October last year.
Conscientious objectors in South Korea have long drawn a heated debate as to whether their claims for the right to refuse to perform military service should be tolerated in a country where national security remains an important issue amid tension with North Korea.
Jesus and some of his closest followers were murdered for serving God, but these people are now complaing about doing 3 years confined service instead of taking up arms.  They are breaking the Law of the land, so should be happy that they are offered the chance to do work that does not go against their conscience. Do they really expect to live a happy and peaceful life in Satan's old world ?  So say, 'serving God' in opposition to Satan, what do they really expect ?  Where is thier FAITH ?

https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20210127003800315?section=national/defense
SEOUL, Jan. 27 (Yonhap) -- A conscientious objector, now carrying out his alternative military service as a prison staff member under the current law after refusing to enlist for religious reasons, has filed a constitutional appeal contending that the alternative military service law is unconstitutional due to its punitive nature, judicial officials said Wednesday.
By law, all able-bodied South Korean men must carry out military service for 18 to 22 months. But the National Assembly passed the Act on the Assignment and Performance of the Alternative Service in 2019, allowing conscientious objectors who refuse to take up arms for religious reasons to do 36 months of alternative service at local correctional facilities.
According to the officials, the conscientious objector, who began his alternative military service at a local prison last year, filed the petition with the Constitutional Court on Monday, saying that the alternative service act violates the freedom of conscience and the rights to happiness and equality. In particular, the petitioner insisted that two clauses of the law, which require 36 months of in-camp service twice the active-duty service duration of 18 months, run counter to the Constitution, due to their punitive nature.
It is the first time that a constitutional petition has been filed in relation to the alternative service law.
The petitioner has been known as a believer of Jehovah's Witnesses, who was recognized by the Supreme Court as a conscientious objector last year.
Discussions on the alternative military service began after the Constitutional Court, while upholding the criminalization of conscientious objection, ruled in June 2018 that not allowing alternative measures for military service objectors does not conform to the Constitution.
Following the parliamentary passage of the alternative service law in December 2019, the first batch of 63 men began their assignments at local detention facilities, such as serving and cooking meals and supporting facility management, in October last year.
Conscientious objectors in South Korea have long drawn a heated debate as to whether their claims for the right to refuse to perform military service should be tolerated in a country where national security remains an important issue amid tension with North Korea.
Jesus and some of his closest followers were murdered for serving God, but these people are now complaing about doing 3 years confined service instead of taking up arms.  They are breaking the Law of the land, so should be happy that they are offered the chance to do work that does not go against their conscience. Do they really expect to live a happy and peaceful life in Satan's old world ?  So say, 'serving God' in opposition to Satan, what do they really expect ?  Where is thier FAITH ?