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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Witness in WAS THE NAME JEHOVAH ONLY USED TO ADVERTISE THE ORGANISATION   
    Still questioning the name Jehovah, i had a thought, as per the heading. 
    The name Jehovah was well known, a long time before the JWs invented themselves.
    And it seems the leaders knew that YAHWEH was favoured by most Hebrew scholars.
    INSIGHT ON THE SCRIPTURES
    Correct Pronunciation of the Divine Name.
    “Jehovah” is the best known English pronunciation of the divine name, although “Yahweh” is favored by most Hebrew scholars. The oldest Hebrew manuscripts present the name in the form of four consonants, commonly called the Tetragrammaton (from Greek te·tra-, meaning “four,” and gramma, “letter”). These four letters (written from right to left) are and may be transliterated into English as YHWH (or, JHVH). The Hebrew consonants of the name are there.
    We know, of course, that the name Jehovah was in use since the 15th Century, and is found in many old Bibles.
    BUT, my point is, that the Leaders of the  Bible Students did not know the true translation / transliteration of YHWH when they chose Jehovah.
    They chose what was already popular. It was an advertising gimick, not for God, but for the Org. It would bring in people and that would mean bringing in money. 
    Some on here will say it has now been 'proven' to be Jehovah, but I say how so ?  Are you still worshipping men that you believe the words of men ?
    Show me proof of Almighty God's Holy Spirit changing YHWH into Jehovah. 
    Or is it still an advertising gimick ? 
    Will people say, 'Oh look, they are using ' God's ' name, they must be the right religion'.
    The old saying, 'tell a lie enough times and people will start to believe it' 
     
     
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in Neighbours becoming enemies   
    Absolutely! 
    JW's makes every effort to separate themselves from "world". As product of that work they formed "Spiritual Paradise" and inner spiritual connections. In such atmosphere and condition today, and as in the past, Bible verses in 2 Tim have nothing with "worldly people", because even Paul addressed his Letter to Brothers and Sisters, Congregation/s as warning and advice how to maintain in faith.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Arauna in Jehovah’s Witnesses releases Bible in 33 languages, in 2020.   
    THE Jehovah’s Witnesses released the New World Translation in 33 languages in 2020—the most in any year since releasing its first translation in 1950. As of Dec. 31, 2020, the New World Translation has been published in 195 languages.
    https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1882628/Tacloban/Feature/Jehovahs-Witnesses-releases-Bible-in-33-languages
    One of many milestones in its 2020 translation work was reached on Feb. 15, when Geoffrey Jackson, a member of the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses, announced the completion of thefirst complete Bible in American Sign Language.

    Speaking at the Witnesses’ release event in Florida, Jackson said: “As far as we know, Jehovah’s Witnesses is the first organization or group of persons to release the complete Bible in ASL. And probably that means it’s the first complete Bible in sign language in the world (and) in the history of mankind.”
    Another highlight came with the release of the New World Translation in Bislama, a language spoken by about 10,000 people on the remote island of Vanuatu, some 1,100 miles (1,770 kilometers) north of Australia. 
    (There is more in the article ) 
    Jehovah’s Witnesses plans to release the Bible, in whole or in part, in 36 more languages in 2021. 
    That has to be good, the more coppies of God's word the better for mankind earthwide. It's needed now more  than ever. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Creation-Evolution-Creative Days-Age of the Earth-Humanoid Fossils-Great Flood   
    Oh dear not that old record again. The whole Watchtower / GB / JW org seems to pivot on that one false belief of 1914.
    In scripture we read at Matthew 28 :18 - 20    English Standard Version
    18 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” 
    So there you have Jesus' words. 33C.E.  Not 1914. 
    And when will your GB get baptism right ?  Once again the words of Jesus. "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit," NOT in the name of JW Org. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in Creation-Evolution-Creative Days-Age of the Earth-Humanoid Fossils-Great Flood   
    In other words, you admit to committing the logical blooper of ad reversum fallacy. 
    For once, I have high praise for Bart Ehrman, who says that if you know a Latin expression and also a perfectly fine English expression that means the same thing, always use the Latin, so people will know you are educated.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Space Merchant in CONGRESS, CAPITAL HILL or WARWICK BETHEL   
    This alone shows you do not know what took place and watched what the MSM is feeding you.
    If my memory serves me right, the W faith's mainstay simply have cameras and gates.
    They do not have arms, claim that one of Witness' contacts brought up, which was proven false by even ExJWs, I need not quote that evidence here. There some however, who joined the faith that were military, police, hunters, etc. but that does not mean their depositary is somehow in a faith's mainstay.
    As I told you in the past, be very careful with rumors. Not too long ago, back in 2017, people claimed JWs to be with Soros and ANTIFA and it resulted in someone getting the beating of his life. Therefore we need to be very careful.
    As for ANTIFA, like BAMN and Qanon, I have a strong disdain for.
    I am sure they explained it to them, as there has been those talking about the vaccine and a list of other things.
    This was in Waco Texas, and the religion in question was a legitimate cult (which differs from an actual Abrahamic Faith due to the fact of accursed teachings being taught). That said, many people believe the situation itself had some fragmented intel, with FBI involvement and other information not being made known to the public, therefore, some are skeptical as others believe to be a setup.
    However, comparing Waco's situation to the faiths today does not make any sense. And I can list many reasons, and how much of a danger it can be to the unware that can succumb to consequences. As people of God, we do not want to make an innocent bystander a target.
    They won't granted the people can setup their own security measures, be it a home, a building, even federal. As for churches in general, likewise, example - Mississippi Church Protection Act (§ 45-9-171).
    That being said, is there anything you would like to know? Granted many of us Truthers are getting bombarded with what took place, we knew it was going to happened regarding the escalation, to which I addressed years ago.
    As for Qanon, I had explained to you what they are, however, a small remnant of Qanon, even Jake the Horn guy, were part of it. But, the Majority that breached the Capitol were Crazed Trump Supporters. The irony in all this, not ALL Trump Supporters went to the capitol, in fact, some fought their own to prevent them from entering.
    As you can see, which I make clear that the actions of one does not define everyone, but you see the MSM is doing the opposite, thus branding every Trump Supporter as a Terrorist, and now Big Tech is involved.
     
    FYI, you did not mention Qanon years ago, you mentioned in a couple of months ago; last year
     
    I also mentioned them and the other groups years ago, in 2018, as is with the escalation that led up to this catalyst
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Space Merchant in Neighbours becoming enemies   
    You don't have to, you can unknowingly reside with them verily easily, as many, many have. As said, they can get you indirectly. You have to be concern with the real enemy, likewise, of what God's people have been doing since Bible times, did you forget the verses concerning such? It isn't about living in fear, it is about being vigilant, however your past remarks comes to question.
    The Scriptures also gives incite to taking precaution, for what you don't learn from MSM that the vaccine can pose a threat to those with underlying issues, there ahs been deaths even and complications of which the creators of the vaccine are not taking acknowledging. Moreover, there are those inflicted with scars due to the vaccine; even the powerful fake their shots and some would simply stated "they don't want to cut the line" hence why many, even the JWs, stated it is your choice to take it. There is no law to force someone to take a vaccine, however, authoritarian measures can and will, as stated before, hit you indirectly. The tragic thing is that in your case, this is coming faster in the EU whereas the US and the Islands do not have that issue, should things go Authoritarian, we have options and alternatives to counter, you however, do not. That being said, it should not be the government you go to regarding the vaccine, it should be your doctor.
    Currency is going in that direction, some of the chosen ones like Solider of God, even Kosnnen here mentioned what I have been talking about for years. The US will get hit big due to the printing of money which will increase the value of, let's say, a gallon of milk. The rich are being Bitcoin because they know where the economy is going, likewise to those in the UK.
    Again, you have to be AWARE. Just because you have money in a bank, does not mean it is yours... Do you never stop to think how they are able to quickly process currency and the like? Then again the unaware tend to be the victims in all this, as did many, be it of a faith or not, we already seen in happened in Washington several years ago and in the UK.
    You say this, however, you cannot tell who is fighting the same fight with you. As with many, they become victim, which is no doubt a reality for some on this forum.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from AlanF in Creation-Evolution-Creative Days-Age of the Earth-Humanoid Fossils-Great Flood   
    Oh dear not that old record again. The whole Watchtower / GB / JW org seems to pivot on that one false belief of 1914.
    In scripture we read at Matthew 28 :18 - 20    English Standard Version
    18 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” 
    So there you have Jesus' words. 33C.E.  Not 1914. 
    And when will your GB get baptism right ?  Once again the words of Jesus. "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit," NOT in the name of JW Org. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in Creation-Evolution-Creative Days-Age of the Earth-Humanoid Fossils-Great Flood   
    The moment Adam became obedient to Satan he became a slave of satan and his desires.  romans 6:  "Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey,"
    Those who by CHOICE put themselves under Jehovah could flee from satan's influence over the entire earth.  (satan offered the kings of earth to jesus , remember?)
    When Jesus came to earth in flesh, he paid the ransom and his disciples are by choice under his authority. Since 1914 he started ruling amid his enemies on earth over his nation which is being collected from amongst humankind. but being part of this nation is also a personal choice - then you fall under protection of Jehovah.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Reprobus in Plan to transform Torquay Jehovah's Witnesses hall into homes   
    Useful Information... Thank You Brother!
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in CONGRESS, CAPITAL HILL or WARWICK BETHEL   
    They could hire a security guard whose conscience allows the use of weapons. WT Lawyers and Legal Department for sure can justifies that.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Matthew9969 in CONGRESS, CAPITAL HILL or WARWICK BETHEL   
    Here in the United States, (although they are not very united these days), we have the 2nd amendment which allows people to own firearms. But not people who have federal felonies on their record. Most of the churches that I have attended congregants volunteer to do security for the church during services and/or working hours. Some of those volunteers do carry a firearm on their person and is legal for them to conceal it as long as they have a required license to  do that. States differ on concealed carry laws.
    The jw's are so secretive and subversive it'd be hard to speculate how far they would go with their security, I can imagine though they have a lot of camera's covering every square inch of the place.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in Finnish author looks to fill the 20-year chronology gap   
    What are the names of this Witness and forum?
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in Finnish author looks to fill the 20-year chronology gap   
    JWI: Two questions. Does this heady stuff of yours offer me any way to slam God’s organization without doing any work? If so, how?
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to JW Insider in Finnish author looks to fill the 20-year chronology gap   
    Not to me. It has about the same significance to me as learning a language that isn't used any more, like old Hebrew, koine Greek or Latin. or Old English. It's interesting as a secular topic, like learning a facet of history of an ancient culture. There is only a minor overlap between this topic and scripture, but this doesn't mean it's a "spiritual" topic, just as learning ancient languages might have only a minor overlap with scripture, and it doesn't make the study of Greek, Hebrew, etc., a "spiritual" topic.
    I know a Witness who has a deep interest in chess, and who goes on forums to discuss it. It would appear self-righteous of another person to go on those forums to tell him that chess isn't spiritual. He already knows that.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in CONGRESS, CAPITAL HILL or WARWICK BETHEL   
    In some countries, building regulations may require that a shelter be built inside a new building.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to AlanF in Creation-Evolution-Creative Days-Age of the Earth-Humanoid Fossils-Great Flood   
    I'm perfectly aware of what a fascist is. And the attitude of the GB proves that WTS leaders are fascists at heart. That's why they define "apostasy" as disagreement with them -- not just disagreement with God, but with them.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Plan to transform Torquay Jehovah's Witnesses hall into homes   
    https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/plan-transform-torquay-jehovahs-witnesses-4862265
    Another Kingdom Hall sold off. 
    Neighbours are objecting to plans to convert a former religious hall into three homes in a narrow Torquay street. Larkmead Homes has applied for planning permission to demolish part of the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses for the scheme in St James Place, off Babbacombe Down Road. Neighbours have submitted objections, including opposition to the design and position of new windows from the proposed development facing their homes. Planning officers are recommending approval with conditions at a meeting of Torbay Council’s planning committee on Monday, January 11.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in Creation-Evolution-Creative Days-Age of the Earth-Humanoid Fossils-Great Flood   
    The only way is ... faith. If you have faith than all sorts of explanations that WTJWorg thinks they have to put in print or on JWTV it all becomes unnecessary. Saving money and energy invested in all such material things (Gilead schools, congresses, seminars, etc.) would be significant. Because why waste time proving something for which “faith” is quite enough. :))
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Creation-Evolution-Creative Days-Age of the Earth-Humanoid Fossils-Great Flood   
    I presume you are talking about your GB and Watchtower / JW Org here. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Matthew9969 in WHAT ARE PEOPLES EXPECTATIONS FOR 2021 AND WHAT PREPERATIONS ARE PEOPLE MAKING ?   
    I got tired of going to the gym having to wear a mask, so I have set up a home gym, most of my weights are holding down my punching bag so I have to buy more weights.
    I'm also probably going to start serving in my churches teen ministry.
    Lastly going to start making more gourmet meals, this past Christmas I made my very own tamales for the first time.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in THE GOVERNING BODY'S ASSUMPTIONS   
    😯  What a frightening, sobering ,yet truthful statement.  
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in 2020 Watchtower Service Report, Memorial Partakers   
    And now we can see why the Governing Body are frightened and why they tell the Anointed not to gather together or not to contact each other.  Um, 21,182 Anointed.  They could have there own Global Assembly   . 
    Another thought crossed my mind. The GB say that we are living in the last part of the last day and yet there are 21 thousand Anointed left on Earth ?  Well maybe only 10,000 True anointed. But ... 
    Matthew 24 :22 says  "In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short."
    This scripture shows some serious reduction in population. Surely this would include a serious reduction in the quantity of Anointed ones ?  As I've mentioned before, if only half of that figure is real that still means there are over 10,000 True Anointed remnant here on Earth. 
    So, what will greatly reduce the population ?   And, how long will it take to greatly reduce the population ? 
    And how many of the True Anointed will be left here on Earth at the beginning of the Judgement / Armageddon ? 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in THE GOVERNING BODY'S ASSUMPTIONS   
    Yes, JW's faith has been created, built by "Bible Study" Program, and then with all other "organizational requirements" aka meetings and conventions where they studying WTJWorg publications and by that they suck, hoover, inhale "uninspired spirit" of human doctrines made by leadership.  
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