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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Part 2.
    2 John 1:9 – “Anyone who does not remain in Christ’s teaching but goes beyond it, does not have God. The one who remains in that teaching, this one has both the Father and the Son.”
    It would help if you or some other JW member put here a list of Christ's teachings. Start with No. 1 please and take as much numbers you need to show all the teachings of Jesus. You can, if you need, name them as "core teachings", and if you find some Chris't teachings as less important, please put them in second list. 
    After that, please make another list of WT past teachings and actual WT teachings. You can also do the same thing, because some JW's claims are, how "core teachings" were and are always the same, despite of "Beliefs Clarified" list by WTJWorg Official web. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200277174 , and all publications published till today.
    It would be nice if you and other JW members delete that "dust" you speaking about.
    After such task done, we all here will be able to compare two entities in 2. John 1:9, aka
    Jesus Scale with/vs WTJWorg Scale 
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    2 John 1:9 – “Anyone who does not remain in Christ’s teaching but goes beyond it, does not have God. The one who remains in that teaching, this one has both the Father and the Son.”
    I like this scripture, because it concentrates on Christ’s teachings, not the doctrines of men.  There is a lot said about doctrine that deviates from the teachings of Christ.  His teachings are sound doctrine, which the apostles stressed for us to adhere to.
    “Now I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause dissensions and obstacles contrary to the doctrine you have learned. Avoid them, 18 for such people do not serve our Lord Christ but their own appetites. They deceive the hearts of the unsuspecting with smooth talk and flattering words.” Rom 16:17,18
    “If anyone teaches other doctrine and does not agree with the sound teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ and with the teaching that promotes godliness, he is conceited, understanding nothing, but has a sick interest in disputes and arguments over words. From these come envy, quarreling, slander, evil suspicions, 5 and constant disagreement among people whose minds are depraved and deprived of the truth, who imagine that godliness is a way to material gain.” 1 Tim 6:4,5
    “For the time will come when they will not tolerate sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, will multiply teachers for themselves because they have an itch to hear something new.”  2 Tim 4:3
    So, every time the organization’s leadership uses Prov 4:18 to cover failed doctrine that had no light to begin with, it cannot be said that Holy Spirit played a part in its development, from teaching's beginning to what it has changed into now.   You have an extensive list of doctrine outside of the teachings of Christ.  The generation teaching is just one of them. The "faithful slave" is another. 
     “Beliefs Clarified” does not show the genius of God, Emma.  It shows the foolishness of men, who choose to remain in darkness.
    "But the person without the Spirit does not receive what comes from God’s Spirit, because it is foolishness to him; he is not able to understand it since it is evaluated spiritually."
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Emma Rose in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    The "light getting brighter" requires humility that waits on Jehovah to give His servants their food at the allotted time.  It also allows for a refining of His people.  What an absolute genius Jehovah is.  1 Cor 2:14
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Oh, this explains why religious "knowledge" is in evolution mode, and gives answer on why "light getting brighter" with every new study edition (and GB videos on JWTV) of WT magazine :)) 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    This is interesting. WT Slave 140 years announcing how end is here, close, before the generation of 1914 passed, just around the corner and similar warnings to own members and to the people in the World. 
    How then does inner feeling, inside Slave, of "delay" manifest itself? In "spiritual beating" through doctrines and instructions and inside/outside policies, in administration system, in supporting false expectations, etc. 
    Leading a WT organization by its leaders no doubt shows the elements that Jesus described as going to happen among those who claim to be his followers, regardless of the name of a religion and regardless of the specifics within such an organization. While a set of a church’s doctrines is very important in recognizing the direction that religion seeks to go, at least declaratively if not really, this detail of spiritual abuse within the church brings to light the other side of the coin. One’s religion may be theologically closest to “truth,” but the dominance of the “wicked servant” over other servants, and the involvement of such a servant in the “things of this world,” inevitably lead to Jesus ’rejection of such a set system.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    In searching for meaning of "despicable fool" i found this:
    Watchtower 2006 2/15,  Questions From Readers
    What three dangers was Jesus warning against at Matthew 5:22 ?
     
    .... What, then, did the expression “despicable fool” signify? The word used here sounded similar to a Hebrew term that means “rebellious,” or “mutinous.” It designates a person as morally worthless, an apostate and a rebel against God. So the person addressing his fellow as a “despicable fool” is as much as saying that his brother should receive a punishment fit for a rebel against God, everlasting destruction. From God’s standpoint, the one uttering such a condemnation against another could merit that severe sentence—everlasting destruction—himself.—Deuteronomy 19:17-19.
    Consequently, Jesus was setting a higher standard for his followers than that found in the principles behind the Mosaic Law. While people believed that a murderer would be “accountable to the court of justice,” Jesus went further. He taught that his followers should avoid even harboring animosity against their brothers.—Matthew 5:21, 22. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2006127
    ... and one comment 9 years ago from fading JW who noticed the connection: 
    Calling someone an “apostate”, “empty well” or “mentally diseased” among other things as they did in the 2011 9/11 Watchtower Study is the same as calling them a “despicable fool”. They clearly established that in their above comments. Even if it were true Jesus made no allowance for such judgmental harsh words. They are bitter because God has not made the words of these “servants” come true. Isaiah 44:26 , “the One making the word of his servant come true, and the One that carries out completely the counsel of his own messengers.”
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Really Anna?  Just as “trampling” is symbolic for the dominating power of the elder body over the anointed priesthood/Temple, “beating” is also symbolic; as well as the “killing”/disfellowshipping committed by your leadership. (Dan 8:13; Rev 11:1,2)
    Let’s see…the question should be, why are all anointed who stand up and give testimony of Christ, are “beaten” and subsequently, “killed”?  I think you know the partial answer.  You GB won’t have any “despicable apostates” in their midst.
    NWT:  “You heard that it was said to those of ancient times: ‘You must not murder, but whoever commits a murder will be accountable to the court of justice.’ 22  However, I say to you that everyone who continues wrathful with his brother will be accountable to the court of justice; and whoever addresses his brother with an unspeakable word of contempt will be accountable to the Supreme Court; whereas whoever says, ‘You despicable fool!’ will be liable to the fiery Ge·henʹna.”   Matt 5:21-22
    My goodness, did Mr. Morris ever play into that one!
    The other reason, is that those disfellowshipped for rejecting the organization, and testify about the Christ and his Temple, are in fact, walking in his spiritual path of persecution.  He suffered at that hands of his own people, as do the anointed who follow his example. 
    “You are blessed when they insult and persecute you and falsely say every kind of evil against you because of Me.”  Matt 5:11
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    God out of graciousness allowed Solomon to build Him a temple.  And what did all of those riches lead to, but Solomon's downfall.  Yet, God's prophetic words to David were not about Solomon, but about Jesus Christ building God's spiritual Temple.  
    But that night the word of the Lord came to Nathan, saying:
    5 “Go and tell my servant David, ‘This is what the Lord says: Are you the one to build me a house to dwell in? 6 I have not dwelt in a house from the day I brought the Israelites up out of Egypt to this day. I have been moving from place to place with a tent as my dwelling. 7 Wherever I have moved with all the Israelites, did I ever say to any of their rulers whom I commanded to shepherd my people Israel, “Why have you not built me a house of cedar?”’
    “‘The Lord declares to you that the Lord himself will establish a house for you: 12 When your days are over and you rest with your ancestors, I will raise up your offspring to succeed you, your own flesh and blood, and I will establish his kingdom. 13 He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever.  2 Sam 7:5-7,11b-13
    Do you really think that God meant that the organization would be the house He is speaking of? Something greater than Solomon is here, and it is not your GB.  Luke 11:31
     It doesn't matter if you think the anointed women were "active" in your preaching work.  What matters is if they ever listened to their Head, Jesus Christ over the Head of your organization.  (Rev 2:2-5; 3:18)
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Oh Anna.  Mormons preach, Seventh Day Adventists preach, Baptists preach. Many people preach either their church's doctrines or simply about Jesus Christ.   What does it matter if when you preach, you are telling a lie?  What does it matter if your preaching work rejects God’s Temple that JWs should understand and look to, yet you bolster an earthly organization instead? You yourself, have been hesitant with 1914, a foundation teaching of your leadership. - a "core" teaching that has changed as the weather changes.  You know full well what your past leadership has taught. Yet, you support them with your continual preaching work of an organization based on falsehood.  This is hypocrisy!  And it is why I quit preaching for the organization and began preaching for Jesus Christ. (Rev 11:1-3)
     The priesthood/Body has many different gifts that lay untapped in the organization. ( 1 Cor 12:4,7-11,14,15,20,21,25,27,18)  Don’t include the elder body in this, the large majority of which are not the anointed Household of God. (Eph 2:20-22)  Your “steward”/administrator seems to think that the role of a house manager is all-encompassing.  Does a manager of a house do the dishes, wash the clothes, pay the bills, run the errands, cook and bake all the dinners for the occupants?  Or, does he “oversee” all that is produced, and then distribute from every offering the servants of the house provide, those offerings that  will contribute to the health and well-being of all within the house? It’s like a steward of a ship, bringing food to a passenger, that the steward did not cook. In its most simple form, your GB have decided they are to do all of it.  They reject offerings of truth from God’s priests, and if any priest rejects their food, their falsehoods, they are beaten down – disfellowshipped.  (Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:11,12;15)
    So, basically your GB leadership has created its own counterfeit house (organization) and their way of running is not based whatsoever on Christ's teachings.  (Luke 22:25-27)  A true “faithful and discreet slave” that is chosen as the house manager under Christ – and IN God’s Temple, spiritual House, would not beat his fellow slaves for providing food for the house! This is why so many anointed have been disfellowshipped over the years.
    It’s like a man going away: He leaves his house and puts his servants in charge, each with their assigned task, and tells the one at the door to keep watch.  Mark 13:34
    Who assigns the tasks?  The GB, or Jesus? Well, in your organization, it is the GB.  Now, don't you think every anointed priest is aware of the task Jesus has assigned to them? Should someone else decide what their task is to be? 
    A genuine faithful steward would discern whether the house servants offer Truth, and he would distribute it to all; because the members of the anointed Body SHOULD all speak truth under the spirit of Christ. (1 Cor 12:13; Eph 4:25) We don't find that at all in your organization.
    The Master’s belongings that the steward watches over, are the “true riches” (Holy Spirit) from each servant of the Master, that should be “managed” properly.(  Luke 16:1,2,10-12)  Each gift given to the servants of the Master cannot be ignored.  They are vital to the life of the members and the Body.  (1 Cor 12:25,26)
     All spiritual food offered to others from those Jesus sends, is to be in harmony with the foundation teachings of the Temple, not those of an organization.    
    This, your GB cannot and will not do. They are the “wasteful steward”.  They will give an accounting for their wastefulness; their rejection of not only the gifts offered by the anointed Body, but their rejection of the Body itself.  And, since the Body is one in Christ, they have rejected Christ as well, even though you may mention the name, Jesus.  (Mark 13:22;2 Cor 11:4)
     Their greed for power and authority must be preserved, at all costs.  So, they have appointed their own body, their own chosen priests to run your organization, who do their bidding. Do you see the dichotomy?
    The Temple of God is to stand on its own, as Zion.  But, your organization calls itself Zion.  Two mountains then, are at war in the last days - a counterfeit “mountainlike organization” which tramples those of Daughter Zion; against those who reconnect with the Temple of God by leaving the counterfeit, repenting of their sins to an idol,  and preach the foundation Truth of Jesus and the apostles. (Isa 52:1-3; Rev 2:26-29; 2:1-5; Zech 4:6,7; Rev 8:8,9)
     
    "Wasteful Steward" - https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/09/luke161-15.html
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Matthew9969 in Banned Religious Groups’ Members ‘Transformed’ in Xinjiang Camps   
    Um idolatry. Worshipping the GB by believing every word they say or write, and by believing they are the F&DS.
    Idolatry.  Worshipping the CCJW organisation by believing and teaching others that one 'has to be a baptised JW to be saved' 
    Idolatry. Believing books and magazines written by the GB and their helpers, instead of believing God's written word.
    Indeed JWs are guilty of idolatry and have been since the Bible Student era. 
    JWs have believed so many lies and false predictions and still do. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Matthew9969 in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Quote @Emma Rose I won't stand/sit by while they make baseless accusations against Jehovah or His people 
    I don't think anyone here makes accusations against God or Christ. 
    As for 'His people' I don't think I've found them yet. All I've found is people that serve a 'religion', an organisation, or men. 
      
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Matthew9969 in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    I had to laugh at this comment from @TrueTomHarley
    The JW organization puts emphasis on caring for ones spiritually, so that in applying Bible principles they will correspond to the man who has learned how to fish.
    How untrue this is. The JW organisation / CCJW is run by those 8 men, the GB, who call themselves the Faithful and Discreet Slave. They do not 'teach a man to fish' because that would actually make the GB redundant. No, the GB act as the permanent Fishermen, supplying the 'fish' to the whole congregation. In fact they tell the congregation that no one can obtain this 'fish' without being a baptised JW. 
    The man who has learnt to fish is then independent, but the GB does not want people to be independent.. 
    In truth people that are of spiritual mind and conscience, and have Bible principles in their hearts, do not need the GB or the CCJW. Such one can serve God independently. Of course organisation is good, but relying on AN organisation is not so good. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Witness in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    @Emma Rose  I thought I'd return to this that you wrote. Quote 
     Kind David had an illicit affair with a married woman and then sent her husband to the front line in order for him to be killed, he also numbered the people when he shouldn't have.  Jehovah did not depart from using King David to carry out His will.  Jehovah is also aware of the effects of sin and if His people are repentant, He forgives them,
    Now, did everyone in the Nation of Israel think King David was doing right when he committed those sins ? I would think that any person of that Nation that had a good relationship with God, would of hated the things King David was doing. The problem for those people was that they were 'of that Nation'. They had no choice but to remain 'of that Nation'. So there is no comparison between those people of the Nation of Israel (born into and belonging to that nation) with JWs that voluntarily remain part of the CCJW. 
    JWs still worship their GB and find no fault in them, even though the GB continue to sin.
    Your GB do not seem to be repentant. If they were they would stand down and let the True Anointed lead the CCJW. How can God forgive the GB when the GB have exalted themselves above all others, and the GB tread down the True Anointed Ones.
    The only thing the GB have done, after many years of lying, is to now admit that they are not Inspired of God's Holy Spirit. So your GB now admit that anything they say or write is just the words of 'men'. Please remember that, you are following the 'words of men'. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Witness in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    @Emma Rose and @TrueTomHarley  are now a comedy duo it seems   Well done ! 
    Dear Emma seems naive but it could just be a ploy. And Tom, well he is as he is. He cannot find true answers to anything so he makes, what he thinks, are jokes. He is funny some times though and bit of humour is good. 
    The scripture Emma semi-quotes from Colossians 3 v 13 is spoken to the Anointed / Chosen Ones as can be seen in verse 12. And in my opinion the whole of the Greek Scriptures are written for those True Anointed Ones. However I actually have that scripture on a piece of paper hanging above my computer monitor, hence i knew what it was immediately. It does help in certain not too serious circumstances, but should not be used to cover over serious sins.
    Now Emma says "They're very hurt and angry." Lets note here that she is like Tom, and she lumps everyone together with that word 'they' / they are. It seems to be a problem with JWs, maybe because they are all one big congregation, that they cannot cope with individuals. Emma, every one of us is different and many of those that leave the CCJW have not 'lost their way'.  If you personally do not mind being part of a Pedophile protecting and Pedophile hiding Organisation, that is of course your own choice. And if you are prepared to turn your back on the Victims of Child Sexual Abuse just to please the GB and you Elders, that is also your choice. 
    I for one left the CCJW because my Christian based conscience would not allow me to continue to be part of such an immoral organisation and I could no longer encourage families to gather together in such a dangerous place as a Kingdom Hall or to gather with JWs that could possibly cause harm to children. Once the abuse has happened there is no turning the clock back. The damage is done permanently. 
    But the CSA / Pedophilia problem is just one of many problems in the CCJW.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Anna in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    And they are! All the anointed I have ever known were very active in the ministry and still are. That was their focus. The sisters taking the lead with the younger ones, and the brothers helping the congregation to shepherd the flock as elders. When you were in the congregation, were you not active in the work that Christ commissioned you with, to preach and make disciples?
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Anna in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Yes, @Emma Rose, Tom knows what he's talking about. When he came here a few years ago he was full of positive vibes (not that he isn't any more) but soon realized his patience would be severely tested.
    So welcome to the "club". If I may suggest, consider also joining the closed JW forum 🙂
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    God’s dwelling since Moses, was the tabernacle – a mobile tent. (Exod 25:8,9)  He then acquiesced to allowing a temple to be built for Him. (1 Kings 6:1)  Christ comes to earth, and announced that the physical temple is no longer to be God’s dwelling, but that it will be his spiritual Body, built with “living stones”. (Isa 60:14,13; John 2:19-21; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)  
    This is how it has been since the first century, and it still is in those faithful to Christ as their Head. The spiritual temple/dwelling of God - New Jerusalem/Holy City, has replaced the physical temple. (Heb 12:22,23; Rev 14:1)
     Where does your physical organization fit in?  God never had an “organization” on earth, but a nation of people, with many foreigners joining in with them.  They worshiped God, firstly through His tabernacle, and then through the temple.  It was the only avenue to worship God, where His appointed priesthood served God as ministers and judges for the people. (Deut 17:9; Lev 10:10,11;Ezek 44:24) With Christ, God established the foundation of His new House/Temple (also mobile) in the apostles and prophets, and it has grown throughout years with added, sealed, “living stones”.  (Eph 2:20-22)
    But right when the anointed remnant shows up, a change is made – at the time when the Great Tribulation/Armageddon, is destined to occur.  No longer is the spiritual Temple of God the focal point, but it is an EARTHLY, PHYSICAL organization that dares to call itself, God’s House.  I don’t remember anything in the scriptures about Jesus saying God’s Temple would be set aside for an organization, built with riches that Satan has been given authority over.   But I do know, that a “man of lawlessness” rules over God’s Temple in the last days, and exalts itself far above the “living stones”. (Dan 8:25;11:36; Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3) 
    This “man of lawlessness”, your elder body, has been given authority  by your leaders, to judge and mark them - God’s priesthood -  as spiritually “dead”. When does this happen? It happens when they reject the organization, and turn back to God’s Temple, and their Head, Jesus Christ.   (John 16:2; Heb 13:13; Rev 13:15; 11:1-3,7)
    God’s people “Israel” are the “chosen”/special possession, anointed to fulfill their role as priests. (Isa 43:10; 1 Pet 2:5,9) Yet, many JWs say just as you have, “Of course I'm aware of who the anointed are, I personally knew 2 of them, lovely sisters, so humble and it makes me smile to think of them in their heavenly role"...without realizing that your organization has trampled down God’s priesthood. Their "role" is to be active while they are on earth, just as the apostles, and those who followed them throughout the centuries.  They were sent by Christ to preach Truth.  Instead, in your organization, they are told to keep silent, and not to gather as a priesthood, because your organization has chosen its own priesthood to fill its own role.   (John 13:20; Matt 28:16-20)  This priesthood baptizes people into the organization.  It doesn't follow Christ's words given to his disciples, in any manner.  It baptizes people into darkness, not into the light of Christ.  When I see elders baptizing at conventions wearing black shirts, I think how fitting a symbol, for the lawlessness they represent. 
    Since 1 Cor 3:16 states that the anointed are the dwelling of God in Spirit, we have a problem with this comparatively young organization calling itself, God’s House.    Which do you choose to accept as God’s House?  An organization that suffers in the court systems, refusing to follow court orders (since money is involved); suffers in various governments in the world, and that has a history of failed, false teachings?   Or, do you accept what the scriptures show us that God’s “organized” Temple built on Jesus Christ, is His anointed priesthood and the only dwelling that God has chosen?
    You said...
    I read all of our beautiful Watchtowers and Awakes and savour every word, here is purity in it's finest form.
    In light of past false teachings, how can you say their spiritual food is “pure”?  I seriously hope you do your homework.
    Tabernacle – Solomon’s Temple – 2nd Temple – God’s spiritual Temple in Christ – followed by a corrupt organization at the last minute?  Blasphemy and deceit. (Rev 13:1,4,5-8) 
    If anyone perceives the “man of lawlessness”/disgusting thing – the elder body – “sitting” in the Temple of God, they are to flee from  the organization.  Mat 24:15-22
     
    https://pearl-disgustingthing.blogspot.com/
     
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    That is blinding yourself by making excuses for your conscience. God and Christ could not use such an immoral Org. Immoral and dishonest. Lacking mercy and love. Making up 'traditions of men' to rule over the congregation.
    What God has in truth is the Remnant of the True Anointed Ones on earth.
    But your GB act as the Evil slave from the Matthew scripture, and that Evil slave 'beats up' their fellow slaves (the True Anointed ones). Your GB have put it in writing in the Watchtower magazine that those Anointed Ones should not meet together for prayer or Bible study, and if they do meet together your GB say they are 'working against the Holy spirit'.  I do hope you read all your Watchtower magazines and that you have read these things. If your conscience thinks these things are good then you have a problem. 
    Do you even look at the Biblical scripture for baptism ? To baptise in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Then have you considered the JW baptism ? It baptises people into the Organisation. 
    You GB have created a stumbling block to all people. The CCJW is known as a Pedophile organisation 
    Earthwide. So the GB have worked for the devil in bringing shame on God and Christ. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    @Emma Rose You cannot serve two masters. You either serve God through Christ, or, you serve the GB through the CCJW. 
    Blinding yourself from all the false doctrines of the GB, and blinding yourself to the Child Sexual Abuse in the CCJW will not help you serve God. Do you really think God and Christ can be involved in the CCJW when it is so immoral ? Let your Christian conscience guide you with prayer. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Witness in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    That is blinding yourself by making excuses for your conscience. God and Christ could not use such an immoral Org. Immoral and dishonest. Lacking mercy and love. Making up 'traditions of men' to rule over the congregation.
    What God has in truth is the Remnant of the True Anointed Ones on earth.
    But your GB act as the Evil slave from the Matthew scripture, and that Evil slave 'beats up' their fellow slaves (the True Anointed ones). Your GB have put it in writing in the Watchtower magazine that those Anointed Ones should not meet together for prayer or Bible study, and if they do meet together your GB say they are 'working against the Holy spirit'.  I do hope you read all your Watchtower magazines and that you have read these things. If your conscience thinks these things are good then you have a problem. 
    Do you even look at the Biblical scripture for baptism ? To baptise in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Then have you considered the JW baptism ? It baptises people into the Organisation. 
    You GB have created a stumbling block to all people. The CCJW is known as a Pedophile organisation 
    Earthwide. So the GB have worked for the devil in bringing shame on God and Christ. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Emma Rose in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    You are free to come to that conclusion.
    Who behaves perfectly...not a one because we are not yet in a state of perfection.
    All have time to repent and be forgiven, at the moment.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    I am not sure that the principles you cite are the truly relevant ones here.
    On the other hand, it certainly is true that they are not behaving perfectly. And it is certainly true that I am not exactly saying “Let Jehovah rebuke you” to them.
    Are you really saying that you think these characters are yet part of the congregation?
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Emma Rose in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    They're very hurt and angry.  I feel sad that my brothers and sisters have lost their way and hope they come back. No matter what other humans do or say, that is not Jehovah, and we are taught to "keep putting up with one another" which is an indication that things are not going to be perfect. The counsel to the congregations given in Revelation also is evidence that things were not what they should be yet Jehovah didn't abandon them, he counselled them.  Expectation postponed is making the heart sick in this instance too it seems.  Let it go and return to your God for he forgives in a large way.  Stop expecting perfection when Jehovah Himself doesn't expect it.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Rats! Caught in the act once more!
    Very well. My bluster got the better of me. To clarify, only Srecko is going after God’s people with a machete. 4Jah is using a knife. And Witness, appropriately enough, is using a battle axe 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Anna in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
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