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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Emma Rose in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    That's not been my experience so I don't recognise what you're saying as factual.
    There are many, many JW's that have been sexually abused by non-JW's.  Do not confuse an acceptance of human imperfection with not being bothered about anything, that's you, not me and as such is a projection of your take on things and again, not factual.
    Jesus taught that we should remove the rafter from our own eyes before trying to remove the splinter from others.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Emma Rose in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Jehovah will decide that.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Emma Rose in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    That's right, no human can determine Jehovah's forgiveness or indeed demand their own standards from Him.  You answer your own objections, interesting.
    No, I'm not American.  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Emma Rose in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    I understand what Tom means when he writes, "they".  
    That's the wonderful thing about Jehovah granting us free will, we can exercise it and if people choose to leave, that is their decision.  Jehovah said He would feed His sheep using His organisation, that is what He is doing and through a feeding programme using literature, I have no problem understanding that at all.
    You won't be able to wipe out Jehovah's organisation, many have tried and failed and if you know anything about the end times, you will know that a coalition of nations will eventually turn on us and that that will be the trigger for Armageddon when the nations will know that Jehovah is who He is.  Until then He works with imperfect people to carry out His will.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Emma Rose in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Not at all.  Kind David had an illicit affair with a married woman and then sent her husband to the front line in order for him to be killed, he also numbered the people when he shouldn't have.  Jehovah did not depart from using King David to carry out His will.  Jehovah is also aware of the effects of sin and if His people are repentant, He forgives them, He is not unreasonable so as to expect perfection from imperfect people.  I have not found Jehovah's organisation to be lacking in mercy and love.
    I don't agree with you about our GB because that hasn't been my experience    I read all of our beautiful Watchtowers and Awakes and savour every word, here is purity in it's finest form.
    Over 300,000 baptised...no stumbling block there.  If the 'whole world' is lying in the power of the wicked one, I would not be expecting them to be complementing our organisation.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Ah—a breath of fresh air, who handles herself well and is doubtless a loyal Christian. But I hope the breath reflects no naïveté. 
    They are doing considerably more than chafing. They are going after Jehovah’s organization with a machete. They are not to be talked out of it. I have not seen one of them budge one iota In all the time I’ve been around. Just so that you should know that.
    I can think of a way of cutting down on the minions. Not that you should, of course. That’s for you to decide, and I like your expressions. But know what you’re getting into.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Emma Rose in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Those are not two masters, Jehovah has a representative organisation on the earth, that makes it one master using His organisation to feed His sheep.
    I don't blind myself at all, I realise that all humans are prone to the effects of sin and all will answer in that day.  I don't expect perfection in an imperfect world. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    He provides the rain and the sun, the natural gifts of the earth. He provides sustenance and clothing to those who are obedient to His will through Jesus Christ.  Luke 12:22-28
     We do know that Satan made it clear what he has control over:
    "Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6 And the devil said to Him, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. 7 Therefore, if You will worship before me, all will be Yours.”  Luke 4:5-7
    Of course they will.   It is those who are deceived by false christs, false messiahs, false prophets that lead one to believe they are serving God completely, but they are not.  Which is exactly what happens to the anointed "saints" in the last days.   (Matt 24:4,5,23,24; 7:15; Acts 20:29-30; Rev 13:11, 14-17)  These saints are actually conquered by deceit. (Col 2:8; Rev 13:7,10)  The false prophets work in unison with an organization, to blaspheme and overcome the Temple dwelling of God.  (Matt 24:48-51; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Rev 13:5-7)
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Who will be taking part in the “worldwide campaign” of letter writing to all government officials in November?  I would guess most all JWs, actually.   This will be done with the sender’s personal letterhead, not that of the Watchtower organization.  Under this change of JWs referred to as “individuals” and not members, it is clear that any antagonistic, unsettled, divisive government official that gets buried with such letters, could very well respond negatively to the sender/senders.   The GB and their the organization is off the hook, since they can say, “individuals” wrote these letters. As we know, "individuals" "exist as a distinct entity".  The GB's lawyers could very well say, “See?" as they pull out the Shephard the Flock book with its most recent changes, “We don’t have members.   THEY are individuals responsible for any consequences of their actions!” 
    A trap within a trap!  Please, JWs, if we are faithful to God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ, would they hang us out to dry, as your leadership is planning to do?  You might want to ask if the GB is writing their letters to their government officials, as well.  Also, be sure to ask if they plan on addressing and signing their letters, as you will do with yours...which is a big mistake.
     
    "How is the Kingdom like fish caught in a net?" - https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/08/how-is-kingdom-like-fish-caught-in-net.html
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in Banned Religious Groups’ Members ‘Transformed’ in Xinjiang Camps   
    Not all idolatry can be recognized through a tangible image, such as praying or worshiping before a statue. 
    The Wt clarifies:
    #1 - “As Christians, we face up to similar challenges today. We cannot take part in any modern version of idolatry—be it worshipful gestures toward an image or symbol or the imputing of salvation to a person or an organization. (1 Corinthians 10:14; 1 John 5:21)”   Wt 90/11/1/26
    The nation of Israel was just as prone to idolatry as the Catholic church is today.   While the Catholic Church has its obvious sources of idolatry, as in God's early nation,  how would Satan deceive his “saints”, into a “modern version” of idolatry?  JWs admit they have many of the same problems as other organizations, such as child abuse; yet they believe they are pure when it comes to idol worship.   How can the straw be extracted from the eye of others, without first the Wt org. extracting the rafter in its own eye and the eye of all who are part of it. 
    How do the anointed fall into idolatry in the last days?
    This is how:
    #2 - "Bible students need to get acquainted with the organization of the “one flock” Jesus spoke about at John 10:16. They must appreciate that identifying themselves with Jehovah’s organization is essential to their salvation. (Rev. 7:9, 10, 15) Therefore, we should start directing our Bible students to the organization as soon as a Bible study is established."  Kingdom Ministry 11/1990 p. 1  “Directing Bible Students to Jehovah’s Organization”
    This statement is so foreign to me now.  We should be directing people to the Father and the Son, NOT to an earthly organization. I don’t know of any other religious organization that projects the image that it is “spirit-directed”, and proclaims to be the source of salvation.  I do not know of any other organization where the authentic anointed “saints” are found; and who have ‘identified’/dedicated themselves with it.  It is a modern-day version of idolatry, just as the first quote states.
    The checkpoint to perceive if this organization is an idol that has settled into one’s heart and mind, would be to ask oneself if leaving this organization and serving God, “whole-souled”, is possible.  (Deut 6:5; Mark 12:30)  Well, it isn’t possible for those fully dedicated to the organization. There is no way to tear them from their idol, no matter what they may suffer for being part of it.  (Isa 48:18; Rev 16:2)  They believe that by leaving the Wt, they have left God.   God, the GB/”head”, the organization, its elder body, are as one; a full contradiction to the oneness of the Father, Jesus Christ head of the anointed Body, and His dwelling in the anointed “living stones” of His Temple.  (John 17:22; 1 Cor 3:16,17; 1 Cor 12:13,20,25)
    In Revelation, the same Beast that “makes war” with the saints, requires an identifying “mark”.  If anyone rejects this identification, they are spiritually, symbolically, “killed”.  (Rev 13:5-7,15)
    Since this organization touts it is the path of salvation, it has convinced its people to ask, where else would one go to receive everlasting life? (John 6:68)  They reason, if it is God’s organization, what other entity is there in the world, that can defeat it? 
    Isn’t that what you believe will happen in your Armageddon? That this organization is the only entity to escape a bloody onslaught destined to come upon the rest of the world?
    The whole earth was amazed and followed the beast. 4 They worshiped the dragon because he gave authority to the beast. And they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to wage war against it?”  Rev 13:3b,4
    Rev 13:15a - It was permitted to give breath[l] (“or a spirit or life”)to the image of the beast…
    This is a counterfeit fulfillment to Jesus “breathing” spirit into the foundation stones of the spiritual Temple of God.  (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17)
    Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, I also send you.” 22 After saying this, he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”  John 20:21-23
    Who is it in the organization that has been directed to forgive sins?  It is the elder body, a counterfeit “body” of priests not anointed.   They have seized this authority of the “living stones” of God’s Temple.  Are not the elders deemed as having Holy Spirit?  They are the stones that have built your idol – your temple. 
    …so that the image of the beast could both speak and cause whoever would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.”  Rev 13:15b
    The Beast kills the “two witnesses” sent by Christ for rejecting its identifying mark and for their testimony of Jesus Christ.  (Rev 11:1-3,7)  Now, we know this honestly did not have its fulfillment in Rutherford’s escapade of jail time.  That ploy of Satan’s, would be the counterfeit fulfillment happening today.  Anointed and all today, who, by their testimony of Christ, and reject the organization’s “mark”, are disfellowshipped.  (Luke 9:24; 17:33; Rev 11:7; 12:10-12)
    16 “And it makes everyone—small and great, rich and poor, free and slave—to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17 so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark: the beast’s name or the number of its name.
    Spiritual food, the buying and selling of it, is only possible if one is a JW dedicated to the organization; It can only be bought from the “slave” – a wicked one.  (Matt 24:48-51)
    18 This calls for wisdom: Let the one who has understanding calculatethe number of the beast, because it is the number of a person. Its number is 666.”
    666 – the “man of lawlessness” who sits in the Temple of God, exalted over the anointed priesthood and who has been given the authority to forgive sins, and the authority to “kill” God’s “living stones”.  (Matt 24:14;Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2)
    A spirit-directed idol requires a mark that signifies who belong to it.  God requires a mark also, outlined in Deut 11:18-23
    “Imprint these words of mine on your hearts and minds, bind them as a sign on your hands, and let them be a symbol on your foreheads. 19 Teach them to your children, talking about them when you sit in your house and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 20 Write them on the doorposts of your house and on your city gates, 21 so that as long as the heavens are above the earth, your days and those of your children may be many in the land the Lord swore to give your ancestors. 22 For if you carefully observe every one of these commands I am giving you to follow—to love the Lord your God, walk in all his ways, and remain faithful to him— 23 the Lord will drive out all these nations before you, and you will drive out nations greater and stronger than you are.
    Ask yourselves, JWs, can you dedicate yourself to the heavenly Father AND to an earthly organization in Satan’s world? (Isa 40:25; Matt 6:24)
    Can you accept decrees made by men AND also accept the established decrees set by Christ and the apostles? (Matt 15:9; 1 John 4:8;2 John 1:9-11; Titus 1:9; 2 Tim 4:3; Col 2:8)
     The two contradictory quotes from the Watchtower above, should show that they are not sourced in Jesus Christ. He would not confuse his servants by saying one thing, and insisting on them observing an opposite teaching.  No, it would be the same spirit from the same father that the Pharisees were led by. (Isa 5:20; John 8:44)  The same spirit that “floods” the anointed, with lies.  (Luke 17:27; Rev 12:15; 16:13-16; 20:7-9)
     
    https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/05/he-who-seeks-to-save-his-life-will-lose.html
     
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Matthew9969 in Banned Religious Groups’ Members ‘Transformed’ in Xinjiang Camps   
    Um idolatry. Worshipping the GB by believing every word they say or write, and by believing they are the F&DS.
    Idolatry.  Worshipping the CCJW organisation by believing and teaching others that one 'has to be a baptised JW to be saved' 
    Idolatry. Believing books and magazines written by the GB and their helpers, instead of believing God's written word.
    Indeed JWs are guilty of idolatry and have been since the Bible Student era. 
    JWs have believed so many lies and false predictions and still do. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Emma Rose in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Top down, everything belongs to Jehovah to begin with, so anything distributed is provided by Him.  Matt 5:45
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Unless you give me scripture to dispute who God's priesthood is, and the "man of lawlessness" that "sits"/rules over them, your words are meaningless.  
    I am considering that not all of them in the line of Wt. leadership were/are anointed.  I believe some possibly may have risen in the rank of the "Gentile" elder body, especially recently.   Being anointed does not secure one's heavenly position to 'shine like stars' in the Kingdom of God.  (Dan 12:3; 2 Pet 3:17)  Rev 8:10,11 tells us that a very bright "star" called "Wormwood" poisons the rivers (teachings)  and springs of water (which come from the heart), causing death to those who drink it in.   
    Jesus said,  Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them.”  John 7:38
    In the time of the end, Satan uses false teachings springing forth from the hearts of corrupt teachers,  to flood God's holy people, the "kings of the earth" (Rev 1:5;5:10), with deceptive teachings.  (Rev 12:15; 16:13-16)
    This, is how the anointed fall from their "secure position":
     
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    You jump from one subject / topic to another bringing in all sorts of points from all different directions, but you say nothing of any use to any true servant of God. 
    It is me that says your GB are not of the True Anointed. Maybe they once were, but they have given their hearts to the devil by exalting themselves above all other Anointed ones and pretending they are the F&DS...  They make false predictions and make up rules and tell deliberate lies. They use dishonest Lawyers in courts to tell lies on their behalf.  Evil dwells in the hearts of your GB and they have proven it by their words and actions. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Quote @César Chávez You blame Jesus for setting a standard of going to the Synagogue or temple for prayer and teaching.
    Oh yes, that Temple was soooo important that GOD had it destroyed in 70 C E by the Romans. 
    I don't actually remember the Apostles building physical Temples. Do you know why ?
    Simple answer. BECAUSE THE ANOINTED ARE THE TEMPLE. NOT A PHYSICAL BUILDING. 
    So now you have a problem because you are saying that 'a building' is important, BUT GOD did not defend that Temple made of stone. 
    GOD replaced that Temple with a spiritual Temple, that is the True Anointed Ones, the Brothers of Christ. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in 71 years old today and happy to give praise to God.   
    Thank you Srecko. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Witness in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    You jump from one subject / topic to another bringing in all sorts of points from all different directions, but you say nothing of any use to any true servant of God. 
    It is me that says your GB are not of the True Anointed. Maybe they once were, but they have given their hearts to the devil by exalting themselves above all other Anointed ones and pretending they are the F&DS...  They make false predictions and make up rules and tell deliberate lies. They use dishonest Lawyers in courts to tell lies on their behalf.  Evil dwells in the hearts of your GB and they have proven it by their words and actions. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in 71 years old today and happy to give praise to God.   
    I hope my mind is as sharp as yours when I reach 71!
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    This might give you a better understanding of what was going on that day:
    “In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!” 17 His disciples remembered that it is written: “Zeal for your house will consume me.” (Ps 69:9)
    18 The Jews then responded to him, “What sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?”
    19 Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”
    20 They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” 21 But the temple he had spoken of was his body. 22 After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.”  John 2:14-22
     
    In the organization, God’s House, His dwelling (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16) has turned into a spiritual “marketplace”.  In exchange for forking over their priesthood, the anointed “stones” of the Temple, slave for men; not only by purchasing “spiritual food” with money, but they have exchanged their devotion and dedication to the true God, for something men have created – the earthly organization.  (Rom 1:21-25; Rev 13:2,4,11,15-17)
    So, yes, Jesus is now saying again, “Zeal for your house will consume me”. 
    1 Cor 3:17 – “If anyone destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.”
    Since each anointed one is God's "Temple", how do feel about your elder body replacing God's priesthood?
    No, it's more like the Wt. is mocking the Body of Jesus Christ.  It is mocking God's new arrangement that Jesus spoke of that day, when he drove out the money changers from the existing temple.  You seem to believe the Wt. has replaced that early temple.  Well, it certainly has tried. (Dan 8:11) Too many who have left the organization now realize what the assignment of God's "living stones" is, and how Zion will rise above your "mountain".  (Isa 2:1-22) 
    Do you understand what Jesus meant?
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    All that you said, is spot-on. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Witness in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Quote @César Chávez You blame Jesus for setting a standard of going to the Synagogue or temple for prayer and teaching.
    Oh yes, that Temple was soooo important that GOD had it destroyed in 70 C E by the Romans. 
    I don't actually remember the Apostles building physical Temples. Do you know why ?
    Simple answer. BECAUSE THE ANOINTED ARE THE TEMPLE. NOT A PHYSICAL BUILDING. 
    So now you have a problem because you are saying that 'a building' is important, BUT GOD did not defend that Temple made of stone. 
    GOD replaced that Temple with a spiritual Temple, that is the True Anointed Ones, the Brothers of Christ. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Matthew9969 in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    It is commendable that two or three elders or m.s. are stepping up to volunteer, but they aren't any more special in this aspect. Considering they local congregation may deliver to 15-20 jw only families. Compare that  to some food banks that  deliver food to hundreds of families 52 weeks a year by volunteers to any one regardless of their faith or religion, sometimes in far away places and by volunteers as well, and not just during a pandemic.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in 71 years old today and happy to give praise to God.   
    Happy birthday, anniversary or what other name this day of your have :))
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in 71 years old today and happy to give praise to God.   
    Today I am 71 years old. And today I gave thanks and praise to Almighty God through Jesus Christ for either keeping me alive or allowing me to live this long. I gave praise for life itself and for the wonderful creation (which many people call nature) around me. 
    My wife bought me a card and put up a couple of balloons and made me an apple cake. No visitors, no fuss, but just praise to God and a little bit of fun.
    It felt wonderful not to be under inspection from those Elders of the CCJW.  Not to have to OBEY the man made rules of the Governing Body.
    Not to worry about some other JW grassing me up to the Elders for 'celebrating' the age i have reached. 
    I really do not miss all that misery of conforming to GB rules and Elders dominating me. 
    If I ever return to the CCJW it will be because the True Anointed have taken control of the earthly part of the Org, under the leadership of Christ, and balance has been obtained. 
    I have faith in God through Christ, that things will change in a very large way within the CCJW.  And if God allows me to live longer then hopefully I will see those changes. 
    Warmest Christian Love to all, JW or not. 
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