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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in "SPECIAL INVESTIGATION INTO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"   
    This can't even be categorized as “new light”.  It is the simple act of loving compassion that should be shown to the victim, and righteous judgment enacted on the perpetrator.  Does it take a good 70 years to understand this? Where are the "loving shepherds" motivated by Holy Spirit?  
    As they say, talk is cheap.    
    On the JW home front, things may seem to have improved, but the organization removes this pious-looking mask in the courtroom when the victims confront them with their failures; and now they have taken their stance against the ARC. In that arena, most JWs will not know the bold, brazen face that the organization exposes, when confronted by a victim suffering from WT’s cold judgment made against them.
    JWs are told not to go there.  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Witness in "SPECIAL INVESTIGATION INTO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"   
    @JW Insider Sorry i totally disagree with your viewpoint. 
    Quote :  Some were probably cases of incest, and crimes of opportunity, where the children are no longer in danger after they leave the household. (And this is another reason why the WTS would want to protect the privacy of such a database.)
    The Earthwide Organisation isn't very consistent then is it ? Australia handed over the 50 years worth of information, it seems.
    The UK, after a court case I believe, handed over the information. BUT HQ America, the GB and their Lawyers, refuse to hand over the Database. They also refuse to apologise to those victims in Australia and to join the redress scheme. 
    And I repeat that if Australia had 50 years of info', then America must also have 50 years of info'. Not just a pretend 20 year database. And if the info goes back that far (50 years) then GB members and Writing Department members could be on it. And maybe that is the reason the GB / Lawyers are hiding it all. 
    And do you really think Almighty God gives Holy Spirit to those 8 men that are so mean and selfish. Hiding all that perverted information about thousands of paedophiles. 
    And once again the physical man has to insult me. Quote "You moron, ................ What a hateful loon!"  Mr Harley is obviously deeply hurt, and i forgive him his insults to me. 
    Quote JWI "Even back in the early 1990's a brother in Writing who had worked in the Service Department for several years estimated (to me) that every congregation of 100 people has had at least one. (That's also 1%.)"
    A brother of that standing would not make a wild guess off the top of his head. He would have some knowledge to base it on. I would call that inside information. 
    And TTH's idea that just because other religions, clubs etc, have a greater number of paedophiles, it is all ok for the CCJW to have thousands. What i cannot understand though is, if as TTH says, no one else kept any records, then how does anyone know exactly how many  paedophiles / victims those other organisations had. How to you compare JW records with no records at all ? 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in "SPECIAL INVESTIGATION INTO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"   
    Apologize for my harsh words, but i don't understated is this comment produced by your motives (emotions) only or by your mental, mind conclusion about same information we all have possibility to read.   
    How can you say, or better to say, how you can prove, supposed fact, how only JW "made note of abuse cases within membership" ? Many institutions collects documentation about own daily work. And many have to stay for shorter or longer time and some of them have to stay forever, according to archival regulations.
    Did Australasia WT showed vigilance? Why they decide to produce papers to ARC, and their friends in NY WT doing opposite. WT in US refused to produce documents about CSA inside JW church to "secular authorities". What they are? Vigilant too? 
    Documents can be used ONLY against those who committed crime. Perpetrators or individuals, or organized group of individuals or perhaps top management of institutions who hiding facts, are those who committed crime.
    Documents about pedophile cases are not against rank and file JW members who living in "spiritual paradise" of ignorance about this bad things.
    You are writer of books, you reading a lot, so you know this.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in "SPECIAL INVESTIGATION INTO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"   
    @JW Insider Sorry i totally disagree with your viewpoint. 
    Quote :  Some were probably cases of incest, and crimes of opportunity, where the children are no longer in danger after they leave the household. (And this is another reason why the WTS would want to protect the privacy of such a database.)
    The Earthwide Organisation isn't very consistent then is it ? Australia handed over the 50 years worth of information, it seems.
    The UK, after a court case I believe, handed over the information. BUT HQ America, the GB and their Lawyers, refuse to hand over the Database. They also refuse to apologise to those victims in Australia and to join the redress scheme. 
    And I repeat that if Australia had 50 years of info', then America must also have 50 years of info'. Not just a pretend 20 year database. And if the info goes back that far (50 years) then GB members and Writing Department members could be on it. And maybe that is the reason the GB / Lawyers are hiding it all. 
    And do you really think Almighty God gives Holy Spirit to those 8 men that are so mean and selfish. Hiding all that perverted information about thousands of paedophiles. 
    And once again the physical man has to insult me. Quote "You moron, ................ What a hateful loon!"  Mr Harley is obviously deeply hurt, and i forgive him his insults to me. 
    Quote JWI "Even back in the early 1990's a brother in Writing who had worked in the Service Department for several years estimated (to me) that every congregation of 100 people has had at least one. (That's also 1%.)"
    A brother of that standing would not make a wild guess off the top of his head. He would have some knowledge to base it on. I would call that inside information. 
    And TTH's idea that just because other religions, clubs etc, have a greater number of paedophiles, it is all ok for the CCJW to have thousands. What i cannot understand though is, if as TTH says, no one else kept any records, then how does anyone know exactly how many  paedophiles / victims those other organisations had. How to you compare JW records with no records at all ? 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in "SPECIAL INVESTIGATION INTO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"   
    @JW Insider Wow, 1 in 100.  so that database that the GB / Lawyers are withholding is going to be massive. no wonder they are keeping it secret.  Is there any update on this yet ? 
    Fast Facts—United States of America   https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/worldwide/US/
    1,237,054—Ministers who teach the Bible 12,594—Congregations 1 to 273—Ratio of Jehovah’s Witnesses to population My estimate Roughly 100 per congregation  because some won't actually be preaching / reporting.  So that brother in 'Writing / Service Department' had inside information. and he said EVERY congregation of 100 people has had at least one paedophile. So that gives us 12,594 Paedophiles in USA alone. And each paedophile abuses more than on child usually. 
    Um, have the GB destroyed that Database ? And if Australia had records going back 50 years then USA would also have records going back 50 years. 
    And Arauna wonders why people are concerned. And TTH just keeps cracking silly jokes and being sarcastic.  Because to them it is just Collateral Damage. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in "SPECIAL INVESTIGATION INTO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"   
    And now the elders “good deeds” are to destroy the paper trail.  How does that fit in with practicing what they preach?  
    To add to your selective statistics, “A typical pedophile will commit 117 sexual crimes in a lifetime”.  This of course, would include crimes committed to more than one child, over and over again. 
    Using the figure of one pedophile per a congregation of one hundred JWs, among just one thousand JWs, 117,000 crimes against children could be committed by JW pedophiles. 
    Not such a rosy picture to look at, is it. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in "SPECIAL INVESTIGATION INTO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"   
    You moron, nothing was said of “inside information” and he didn’t “say” anything—he “estimated”—there is a difference. Moreover, you ignore the overall inference of the above remark that everyone else likely has significantly more CSA than within JW.
    I’m not sure that you care about children at all. If you do, that concern is far overshadowed by your mission to run down the Witness organization. What a hateful loon!
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in "SPECIAL INVESTIGATION INTO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"   
    A pretty good guess, I would imagine. I like to think that is still quite low, in view of Invisiblechild.org  reporting that 1 out of every 5 children in the US will be suffer molestation before age 18. But such will never be known for sure because practically nobody other than JWs made note of abuse cases within the membership; Witnesses did so in the spirit of Romans 2:22– to ensure that they ‘practice what you preach.’ In doing so, they produce a ‘paper trail,’ the 1000 ARC cases that nobody else produces because everybody else was content to not look.
    Their vigilance is readily used against them. It is the classic example of the cynical phrase, ‘No good deed goes unpunished.’ Had they stuck their heads in the sand, as was the pattern elsewhere, and cried like Sergeant Shultz: “I know nothing!!” they would have fared better.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to JW Insider in "SPECIAL INVESTIGATION INTO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"   
    I know this is just your opinion, but the numbers don't bear this out. In mathematical terms 1 percent is 1 out of 100, so that .0001 percent, literally means that only one out every million JWs are pedophiles. In other words, there are only 8 pedophiles in the entire world who are JWs.
    Since 1950, there have been on the order of 100,000 JWs in Australia (there are over 60,000 today). During that time, there were over 1,000 perpetrators who were considered by the congregations to be pedophiles, persons who had committed sex crimes against children. 1,000 out of 100,000 (1 out of 100).
    That's actually 1 percent, not .0001 percent. And since most cases are never caught and most pedophiles attack more than one child, the effect of the crimes probably affect an even higher percentage of Witness children.
    Even back in the early 1990's a brother in Writing who had worked in the Service Department for several years estimated (to me) that every congregation of 100 people has had at least one. (That's also 1%.)
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in "SPECIAL INVESTIGATION INTO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"   
    JWs are spiritually blind.  Satan may be getting ready to do just as you say.  But, what should be your concern?  What's happening on the outside of your organization, or where spiritual "Israel" resides...in sin?  Can there be a difference to the same sin according to who commits it?  Does it take on a better, acceptable hue within the organization, than outside of it?
    Who are "my people" in Rev 18:4-8?  
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in "SPECIAL INVESTIGATION INTO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"   
    According to WTJWorg interpretations of Bible, event you mentioned is future event an fulfillment, hypothesis, of Bible prophecy. It is interestingly that satan who allegedly created "all religions on earth" want to destroy own kingdom ?? I don't understand this logic. I would understand  that he want to destroy JW religion because, hypothesis, JW religion is his enemy, but why would he destroy own lies?? 
     No. That mean you have to pay own lawyers and fight against WTJWorg Australasia in individual court case. And WT Lawyers have more money than individual victims.  
    ARC is not "kangaroo court".
    ARC established, according to WT Branch Office cca 5000 documents - 1006 perpetrators in WT archive documentation and 1800 victims.
    I wonder what sort of "court" is "kangaroo court"?
    JW Judicial Committees from 1950 to 2015 or ARC in 2015 ??
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in Celebrated Watchtower Scholar, Rolf Furuli, Disfellowshipped   
    If I have abused scripture, then prove it, with scripture.  I wish you could see just who the "self-righteous" are - the GB who exalt their own "word" over that of God's.
    Thus the Lord God showed me: Behold, a basket of summer fruit. 2 And He said, “Amos, what do you see?”
    So I said, “A basket of summer fruit.”
    Then the Lord said to me:
    “The end has come upon My people Israel;
    I will not pass by them anymore.
    The Lord has sworn by the pride of Jacob:
    “Surely I will never forget any of their works.
    8 Shall the land not tremble for this,
    And everyone mourn who dwells in it?
    All of it shall swell like the River,
    Heave and subside
    Like the River of Egypt.
    “And it shall come to pass in that day,” says the Lord God,
    “That I will make the sun go down at noon,
    And I will darken the earth in [d]broad daylight;
    10 I will turn your feasts into mourning,
    And all your songs into lamentation;
    I will bring sackcloth on every waist,
    And baldness on every head;
    I will make it like mourning for an only son,
    And its end like a bitter day.
    “Behold, the days are coming,” says the Lord God,
    “That I will send a famine on the land,
    Not a famine of bread,
    Nor a thirst for water,
    But of hearing the words of the Lord.
    12 They shall wander from sea to sea,
    And from north to east;
    They shall run to and fro, seeking the word of the Lord,
    But shall not find it.
    “In that day the fair virgins
    And strong young men
    Shall faint from thirst.
    14 Those who swear by the sin of Samaria, ( ironically meaning, "watch tower")
    Who say,
    ‘As your god lives, O Dan!’
    And, ‘As the way of Beersheba lives!’
    They shall fall and never rise again.”  From Amos 8
    This prophesy concerns God's chosen people - today - "Israel".  
    God does not vindicate a people who hide their sins and chose to rule by the desires of men.
     
     
     
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in "SPECIAL INVESTIGATION INTO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"   
    Thanks for the update @Srecko Sostar  Does the GB blush out of embarrassment over any of this?
    Nope.  Jer 8:11,12
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in "SPECIAL INVESTIGATION INTO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"   
    Senator Ruston said it was not up to Jehovah's Witnesses or other organisations to decide whether their models suited the scheme or not.
    "It's not up to you to make those decisions," she said.
    "Let the independent scheme assess the validity of the arguments you're putting forward because they may well be correct but it's not for them to decide.
    "We have applications and we have a responsibility to process them."
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-01/government-names-shames-institutions-not-part-of-redress-scheme/12406850?fbclid=IwAR2ODewWHNdEzAeiFMUx1g3cMXqRnogpgpp0U3OtUZlPA7ahdGpe1nE4M1s
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in "SPECIAL INVESTIGATION INTO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"   
    Jehovah’s Witnesses has argued it does not have the “institutional settings” necessary to be a part of the redress scheme.
    Spokesperson Tom Pecipajkovski told the ABC it would respond directly to individual claims.
    “Jehovah’s Witnesses understand that, to date, there have been less than 10 applicants to the redress scheme who have referred to the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses,” Pecipajkovski said.
    “Jehovah’s Witnesses have responded and will continue to respond directly to individual claims for redress in a caring, fair, and principled manner, taking into consideration the unique circumstances of each claim.” 
    https://probonoaustralia.com.au/news/2020/07/organisations-named-and-shamed-for-refusing-to-join-national-redress-scheme/
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in "SPECIAL INVESTIGATION INTO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"   
    Prime Minister Scott Morrison has threatened the charity status and government funding of organisations that refuse to sign up to the child sexual abuse redress scheme by the Tuesday deadline.
    Under the scheme, survivors can access up to $150,000 in compensation payments and an apology from the organisation involved.
    The Jehovah's Witness have publicly resisted the scheme, insisting they do not have the institutional setup the scheme is designed to address.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/morrison-threatens-charity-status-of-organisations-refusing-to-join-abuse-redress-scheme-20200628-p556z8.html?fbclid=IwAR09qxgjTVytraT8wTjQWrkE00WUnwYDDwMm4EADxT6o5KD5z1vwYIsGF1s
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in "SPECIAL INVESTIGATION INTO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"   
    The federal government on Wednesday outed the Australian Air League, Boys’ Brigade NSW, Fairbridge Restored Limited, Lakes Entrance Pony Club, Jehovah’s Witnesses and Kenja Communications.
    But late on Wednesday the Australian Air League signed and submitted the letter of intent to join the scheme.
    https://www.aap.com.au/redress-scheme-holdouts-to-be-revealed/?fbclid=IwAR3i4pSK3wUQQKDyo7McEtLvfX9QkAnUdwj0K3tTWIi-8hp8IdVGD-72-x8
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in "SPECIAL INVESTIGATION INTO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"   
    What do you know about faith and  do you judge another's faith?  The bible does call them "discreet". So they will work with everything in the best way they know how.  
    If they save money then you say they have no trust in God.  If they leave it to chance you will call them useless slaves and bad managers....... can they ever get your approval? I doubt it. Whatever they do will be wrong in your judgmental eyes.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in "SPECIAL INVESTIGATION INTO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"   
    The headline of this article is pure spin. I would also put my money offshore if I could because the dollar has already fallen...... They are trying to save what is left. But this may also be too late because a new financial world will emerge from this covid 19. All money will be digitized with ID..... How offshore money will be dealt with I am not sure. The GB used some offshore money before when they ran out of liquidity. It is good to save money in a 'perceived' safe place. To not pay people their money awarded by court they would have to declare bankruptcy in Australia - and I have not heard this in the news yet...… so the story above is pure spin...… but of course people with no clue of how this works will find the article interesting.... or the people who just love it because the spin puts JWs in a bad light.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in Celebrated Watchtower Scholar, Rolf Furuli, Disfellowshipped   
    That is debatable because you are most probably the most self-righteous person on this forum. You are the one always justifying your hate by abuse of scripture.  I just keep pointing out your hateful attitude..... and believe me..... it is like OCD.  You cannot move away from this single mindset. That is all I have to say. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in Celebrated Watchtower Scholar, Rolf Furuli, Disfellowshipped   
    Do you realize that you are probably the only person on this forum who uses the words “hate” and “hateful” repeatedly? Who really hates, Arauna? Is it you, hating “apostates”?  I believe that not one exjw here, hates JWs.  Instead, they are probably disgusted with the tyrannous leadership of the organization that they lived under for years, and are most likely dumbfounded that millions still tolerate its lies and hypocrisy.    I am.
    Shall we put this “wisdom” and its application to the test, and grade the WT’s actions against it?
    An anointed priest is to teach the people. (Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9)  Who “represent” the priesthood and teach JWs instead?  Is it acceptable according to God’s word that the elder body have taken on that role which cannot be challenged? (yes! OCD kicking in!)  Is it acceptable that men not anointed can judge God’s chosen priesthood, that they can pass judgment on anyone above and beyond Christ Jesus?
    Here are the scriptures - the “wisdom” of the Bible – which verify that Watchtower gets a zero mark in this category:  Num 16:3-7,10,11,18,20,21,35,40; 2 Chron 23:6,7; Num 18:7; Ezek 44:6-9; 2 Chron 13:9; 2 Thess 2:4,8; Rom 14:4
    Whose wisdom will you accept – that of the GB or that of God?
    I’ve provided you with scriptures that show there is no building, no organization that can be called “God’s house”; yet, the WT calls every building constructed, just that:  “God’s house”.   WT’s “Bethel” is patterned after the sanctuary and city in ancient Israel.  It is not patterned after God’s dwelling, “house”, signified since the coming of the Messiah as the Body of Christ.  Has Christ become a “stumbling block” to the GB? (1 Pet 2:4-8)
    The “house/dwelling of God” today, is outlined in 1 Cor 3:16,17; 2 Cor ; Eph 2:20-22
    Whose wisdom will you accept – that of the GB or that of God?
    With the unyielding “two witness rule” adhered to in cases of child abuse and rape, do you realize that during the ARC, GB member Geoffrey Jackson was presented with God’s perfect justice outlined in  Deut 22:25,26 and he said it held no weight in matters of abuse today?  Why not?   Was the GB unable to perceive what loving justice in the case of victims is all about?
    Whose wisdom will you accept – that of the GB or that of God?
     In the organization, who have become like beasts of burden? Who must obey the GB/”wicked slave” or pay the penalty of disfellowshipping? Every letter written by an anointed one questioning the GB’s doctrine, and warning them of their false steps, is ignored, just as Balaam ignored the beast of burden he rode.   
    Everyone must obey a wicked slave, or be kicked to the curb. 
     
    The reason required for the expulsion of the GB, will need to be inexcusable and offensive.
    How do we know?

    Rev.18:20... "“Rejoice over her, you heavens! Rejoice, you people of God! Rejoice, apostles and prophets! For God has judged her with the judgment she imposed on you.” (also Matt.7:2).

    Well, the GB cause the righteous, to be condemned to death (1John3:12,14)!

    See....
    "In her was found the blood of prophets and of God’s holy people, of all who have been slaughtered on the earth.” (Rev.18:24)

    Rev.13: "15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed."

    Rev.11: "7 Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. 8 Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified. 9 For three and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. 10 The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth."

    Matt.5: "11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you."
    -
    Now of course we know that the faithful who are unjustly accused and sentenced, suffer for righteousness' sake. Not so, the last harlot (GB). As the apostle Peter said;

    "14 But even if you should suffer for what is right, you are blessed. “Do not fear their threats; do not be frightened. 16 keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander. 17 For it is better, if it is God’s will, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil.” -- "19 For it is commendable if someone bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because they are conscious of God. 20 But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God." (1Pet.3; 1Pet.2)
    So, our suffering can be for either doing good, or for doing bad. The wicked steward, beats his fellow anointed brothers and slaves of Christ, for their doing good. Like Balaam, he beats the beast of burden who has enough perception, to see where the path of Balaam is leading (Num.22). The donkey is trying to save Balaam's life, and Balaam arrogantly beats the donkey in cruelty and frustration, because Balaam is not as perceptive as the ass. The angel of the Lord is about to strike Balaam dead, for his offenses against God and God's nation. This applies in the time of the End, as we observe by the inclusion of this scenario within Revelation (Rev.2:14; Jude1:11; 2Pet.2:15).
     
    Just as the wicked steward/harlot/false prophet/Jezebel... has her faithful brothers in Christ, condemned to death as wicked through the Gentile force (elder body) they manipulate....
    --- (just as occurred with Jesus -Rev.11:8; Matt.23:37,35; Rev.18:24; John19:12,15-16; Rev.13:15; 11:7-8); 

    ....so too, “She” will bear a double portion (Rev.18:6), the shame of condemnation to death, but in her case, it will be deserved (Rev.19:2).
    Written by an anointed priest, Pearl Doxsey.
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Witness in Celebrated Watchtower Scholar, Rolf Furuli, Disfellowshipped   
    Quote @Arauna  And how will you know it is not an imposter anointed group trying to take over in the congregation...… ever thought of that????   I take you a bet you have not thought of this because practical matters are not your forte..
    Ye of little faith. I have said many times. " but the GB will be removed by God through Christ, or they will stand down when God's time is right for it to happen.."
    Arauna, you may be practical, but i would rather be spiritual.  By their works you will know them. We've seen the works of the 'all American' GB. (7 out of 8). And all white GB (7 out of 8). Whereas the Organisation is Earth wide, of all nations and tribes. 
    Imagine the Israelites saying to Moses 'What a dumbo leading us to the Red Sea, we got no chance of survival now'.
    FAITH in Almighty God through Jesus Christ. And it will come to pass. The GB will be removed and replaced. 
    But @Witness says it much better than I can. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in Celebrated Watchtower Scholar, Rolf Furuli, Disfellowshipped   
    I see that what 4Jah2me said, went right over your head.
    Your eyes are entirely focused on 8 men who would just as soon keep you locked in their pen and deceitfully coerce you into “donating” to their corrupt organization. (Ps 140:5)
    Jesus said,
     “You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. 16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.”  Matt 5
    Those part of the heavenly city, "New Jerusalem", the anointed, who are members of Christ’s Body, are to share his light – of TRUTH. (Gal 4:26; Heb 12:22) The living Temple of God is truth, with its foundation established on the teachings of Christ and the apostles. (Eph 2:20-22)  The organization is a counterfeit that pretends to be that “truth”.   Yet, it is the anointed, who are to be the light of the world today, as ambassadors of Christ. (2 Cor 5:20)  Your sole concern and vision, is in the GB, who have dictated their silence.  Why? To suppress truth.  To kill those in Christ. (Rev 13:15) The GB’s band of thieves/elders enforce this decree. (Acts 20:29; 2 Cor 11:3; Matt 24:24,25, 48-51) (John 10:1,10; 2 Thess 2:3,4)
    No Arauna, the rebels are the eight men, whom you cannot see as the primary wolves squelching the light of TRUTH each anointed one is to share. Do you really believe the true wolves would write a book against the GB, and publish it for everyone to read?  No, the authentic wolves would appear as sheep among the flock, and gain the trust of all in the herd.
     
    “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. (teachings) Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Matt 7:15,16
     
    "For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking misleading things, to draw away the disciples after themselves."  Acts 20:29
    It is a "misleading thing" to tell the anointed to shut up and conform to an earthly organization's rules and regulations that guard its need for "unity".  Can't you see that the organization is not the Temple of God?  (1 Pet 2:5-9; 1 Cor 3:16,17)  Was there any entity during the time of the early temple period that was accepted above and beyond the established form of worship?  
    Your focus has been side-swiped to believe in an earthly "established" form of worship today, through "Jehovah's organization", instead of seeing the spiritual Temple built with anointed "living stones".  It is a very sly move on the part of Satan.  
     
    “However, the Most High does not dwell in temples made with hands, as the prophet says:
    ‘Heaven is My throne,
    And earth is My footstool.
    What house will you build for Me? says the Lord,
    Or what is the place of My rest?'  Acts 7:48,49
    "God who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands.  Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things.   Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man’s devising.  Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent"  Acts 17:24,29,30
    (And yes, an anointing is the outpouring of Holy Spirit which takes up residence in the heart as God’s dwelling. (1 Cor 3:16,17; Acts 2:17; 1 John 2:27) The anointed  ‘necessarily’ DO have more holy spirit than anyone else…for a reason – to teach the light of Christ to those who thirst for it. (Mat 2:7; Heb 8:10)  Those individuals  are also blessed by God's Holy Spirit, allowing their eyes to open the real TRUTH.)
    How blind you are.  Unbeknownst to Furuli, I believe he is setting the stage for the fulfillment of scripture.  The “false prophet”/GB will be ousted by the composite organization of elders, along with rebel anointed ones, who would rather fork over their “crown”, for riches in this life, and not with Jesus Christ in God's Kingdom.  Rev 17:12-18
    It is not by happenstance that the anointed have always gathered in the WT organization.  (Rev 16:13,14; 20:7-10)  Satan demands to test each one, as “wheat”.  (Luke 22:31)
    I’m not sure if I have shared this quote from the WT, but it bears repeating:
    “Just as a boss of organized crime might oversee many illegal operations—drugs, prostitution, theft, gambling, smuggling, and so forth—without personally revealing himself to all his underlings, so Satan uses an organization to control far more people than he could by himself alone. His strategy? Besides harassing individuals, he and the demons treat masses of people as if they were a herd of cattle. No need to direct each one personally. Simply turn a few at the head of the herd, and the majority will follow. Then concentrate on the strays.” G90 1/8 pp 12-13
    We have been provided a personal peek into the devious ways Satan misleads “THE ELECT/SAINTS” in the last days – through an organization that “makes war” with them and spiritually "kills" anyone who stand up against it.  Rev 13:7,15  
     
     
     http://pearl-satansthrone.blogspot.com/
  25. Haha
    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in Celebrated Watchtower Scholar, Rolf Furuli, Disfellowshipped   
    If they meet, they meet not for their own benefit unlike your suggestion that other anointed must play important roles in the congregations they are in.....  And how will you know it is not an imposter anointed group trying to take over in the congregation...… ever thought of that????   I take you a bet you have not thought of this because practical matters are not your forte..
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