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Patiently waiting for Truth

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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to BroRando in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    We preached for over 100 years that a New World is coming.  Ready or not, here it comes!
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in I have a question about your memorial.   
    No, I witness to many on internet. I prefer an atmosphere of kindness and love.  Here on the forum I just practice my thinking skills - which is hard because those who hate us are NOT prone to logical thinking but full of empty accusations.. I try to avoid those who have hate-OCD but now and then I do manage to get myself embroiled. 
    Silly, by now I should have learnt my lesson! 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Thinking in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I am speaking of much much more than ego and hurt feelings …it was wickedness a cruelty unscriptural and ended in some one’s death…and blood guilt….
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Almost in the same breath you’ve answered your question:
    Any number of times you’d said how you don’t expect to survive Armageddon. Why don’t you repent and turn around from whatever is causing you that little problem? If you have faith in Christ, and unless you are a practicer of sin, the ransom is supposed to give you confidence. They teach about the ranson sacrifice of Christ at the Kingdom Hall.
    Will you even be doing the Memorial this year? Or will you be holding out for the really big holiday two days away involving the Easter Bunny?
    If I was on a boat drifting toward the falls which I did not expect to survive, I would not be using all my energy hollering to those on shore how they are doing everything wrong.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in I have a question about your memorial.   
    After a person is dedicated to Jehovah it is this world- wide organization which helps them to maintain a lifetime of service, teaching new languages and providing study materials, meetings etc. In far off countries where there is not much money. Other churches do not go where there is no money........It amazes me how myopic ex-witnesses become. No- one is dedicated to an organization..... it is the excitement of fulfilling a life-long preaching assignment and finishing the race for life by a dedicated life to Jehovah. The organization is merely the tool. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in Thought I'd put this here as it probably will not be on the JW Org website   
    I see no reason for you to comment this way. The moderator of this topic uploaded an article authored by someone else.
    You say this is his opinion. So why should anyone be "accused" or "underestimated" of such an opinion?
    We can classify the requested changes in the domain of "human rights" or "improvement of living conditions". WTJWorg considers these three points to be a purely religious / doctrinal issue. Nowadays, these three things go beyond the dogmatic framework of one religious community. Since the status of WTJWorg, in a particular social order, depends on the laws of each state, then these three issues cease to be the exclusive right to a specific biblical interpretation of a religious group, but become a matter of state legislation that should be able to guarantee its citizens individual "human rights".
    -the right to protection and safety of children 
    -the right to health and medical care
    -the right not to be discriminated against because of different religious beliefs
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to BroRando in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    The Presence of the Son of of Man began in 1914. "For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.  All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress." (Matthew 24:7-8)
    "For just as the lightning comes out of the east and shines over to the west, so the Presence of the Son of man will be." (Matthew 24:27) Are you gaining the understanding that these things are fulfilled in a Spiritual Manner? Ever since 1914, right-hearted ones have been witnessing the Presence of the Son of man. After 2034, the wicked will also start to gain the understanding that they are really dying and lament all the way to everlasting destruction.   As the Last Days come to their conclusion and the seperating work is completed, even the wicked will SEE but after it is too late! Yes, the Revealing of the Son of Man will soon begin for the 'ungodly' as we head into Christ Millennial Reign.   Read more...
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I think I've given proof that my 'accusation' isn't a lie.  I don't have any false teachings as I am not a teacher. I do however give warnings to those who could easily become victims. 
    I don't have hope of eternal life but that does not make me hateful of TRUTH. I hate the things that God hates. 
    Repentance ?  For leaving an immoral organisation ?  So tell me, what should I show repentance for ? 
    Of course i have sin, we all do, but opposing the immorality and lies of the JW Org is not a sin. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    The ARC mentioned just over one thousand pedophiles in the Australian part of JW org.  Each Pedo had more than one victim.
    The UK has had two investigations both have found pedophilia in the UK JW org. The Charity Commision and the IICSA. Online proof is available......... 
    In America there have been many law suits / court cases about Pedophiles in the American part of the JW org.
    The point being with America that it has a hidden Database of pedophile records going back 25 years, BUT Australia's records went back over 50 years. I think that gives question as to what happened to the other 25 years of records in America ?  Also who is paying whom to keep those records secret ?
    In Canada some lawyers wanted to bring a massive court case (some thing like 66 million Canadian dollars ) against the Canadian JW org, but for some reson they were not allowed to.  So we have no idea how many Pedophiles there are on record in the Canadian JW org. 
    Then we have the Netherlands 'Reclaimed Voices' / Utrecht University with at least 751 reports ranging from incest to rape. The Dutch JW org went to court to try to stop the publication of the report. 
    Spain, 27th october 2018, Abusos JW sent letter to their Ministry of the Interior to urge for investigaation into the JW org Spain. 
    And we haven't mentioned half the world yet ! But you will probably get the drift of it all. 
    I repeat THOUSANDS OF PEDOPHILES in the JW Org earthwide. 
    And all JWs, just by being JWs, are supporting the GB and the other leaders in hiding the Pedophiles in the JW  Org. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in I have a question about your memorial.   
    You seem to only connect the Anointed to the JW Org. Once again, as @Srecko Sostar has mentioned, what does it have to do with spiritual anointing ?  
    Dedicating your life to an organisation, to live by man made rules, and to rule over others by using those rules, seems a very long way away from serving YHWH through Yeshua.  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in I have a question about your memorial.   
    I guess this kind of description of someone’s “career rise” is quite acceptable by “general standards” in the world we live in. I don't even see anything unethical in that.
    But what does all this have to do with "anointing with the spirit"?
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in I have a question about your memorial.   
    According to worldly standards, not.  BUT, most of these people have had a life-long career in serving only Jehovah - only focused on the spiritual things and the things above.  It is very hard to remain a hard working servant of Jehovah, especially if it lasts for about 60 years or more.  There are many disappointments that one has to overcome, going to foreign countries, and then later in life go to Bethal, and then when one has done menial jobs in bethal - then move on to some key functions. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in I have a question about your memorial.   
    This question is completely in place. I believe that almost every JW will agree with the conclusion that it is not possible to know who is a member of 144,000 and who is not. From such a conclusion emerges another - No one can know and claim who is a member of the FDS class.
    If the first claim (who is the anointed one) cannot be proven then the second (who is the FDS) can be proved even less.
    Regarding self-proclamation or confirmation of self-proclamation from members of others who have also self-proclaimed themselves to be something, it is not worth discussing.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    That reminds me of my good friends Kermit the Frog, and Fozzie Bear, sitting on a wooden fence, and Fozzie leans back and looks behind the fence, and says to Kermit “You know you have a hand up your butt?”
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Yes. If you don’t forgive and put it behind you, you never heal. You are forever rehashing your injury. In close to 50 years with Jehovah’s earthly organization, the supportive benefits have far exceeded the abrasions that can come from working closely with people. But that does not mean that abrasions have never occurred. In No Fake News, I wrote: 
    “After studying one book seemingly written for no other purpose other than to harp on dress and grooming and harangue about field service, the conductor said to me: “Tom, why don’t you comment? You know all these answers.” It was a turning point. He was right. I did know them all. It was time to stop sulking. From the circuit overseer on down, they had stirred up major chaos in the family. They had been heavy-handed and clumsy - but never malicious. And it had never been Jehovah.
    I had read of ill-goings-on in the first-century record. Congregations described in Revelation chapters 2 and 3 were veritable basket cases, some of them, but that did not mean that they were not congregations. Eventually things smooth out. Eventually 1 Timothy 5:24 comes to pass: “The sins of some men are publicly known, leading directly to judgment, but those of other men will become evident later.” “Later” may take its sweet time in rolling around but it always does roll around. Should I stumble when it becomes my turn? I’d read whiner after whiner carrying on about some personal affront or other on the Internet. Was I going to be one of them?”
    When a circuit overseer years later—he was a good guy—tried to soften matters – saying how God sends just the right personality at just the right time, I said “Look. I know the line. I’m perfectly willing to spin it and even view things that way - God works with people. I get that. But I also want to call a spade a spade. The guy was an unbalanced nut.” Later when my daughter asked the circuit overseer about his conversation with her dad, the latter replied: “He was…frank.”
    Jesus makes exactly this point in his illustration of the slave not forgiving his fellow slave for a debt after his master had forgiven him for a huge one. It’s a matter of looking at things from his point of view, not our own.
    “That is why the Kingdom of the heavens may be likened to a king who wanted to settle accounts with his slaves.  24 When he started to settle them, a man was brought in who owed him 10,000 talents.  25 But because he did not have the means to pay it back, his master ordered him and his wife and his children and all the things he owned to be sold and payment to be made.  26 So the slave fell down and did obeisance to him, saying, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay back everything to you.’  27 Moved with pity at this, the master of that slave let him off and canceled his debt.  28 But that slave went out and found one of his fellow slaves, who owed him 100 de·narʹi·i, and grabbed him and began to choke him, saying, ‘Pay back whatever you owe.’  29 So his fellow slave fell down and began to beg him, saying, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay you back.’  30 However, he was not willing, but he went and had him thrown into prison until he could pay back what he owed.  31 When his fellow slaves saw what had happened, they became greatly distressed, and they went and reported to their master all the things that had happened. 
    Then his master summoned him and said to him: ‘Wicked slave, I canceled all that debt for you when you pleaded with me.  33 Should you not also have shown mercy to your fellow slave as I showed mercy to you?’  34 With that his master, provoked to wrath, handed him over to the jailers until he repaid all that he owed.  35 My heavenly Father will also deal with you in the same way if each of you does not forgive your brother from your heart.” (Matthew 18)
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Thinking in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Some just never see it…maybye a good cong or such things are not obvious….believe me there are a lot of us survivors in my neck of the woods so take heart ..that you may be one of them….big victory brother ..bigger than you realise…
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Believe me, I do not think there is not a person who has not had their feeling or ego hurt in the course if time.  But we are all stronger after it. We are all very imperfect after all. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Good advice, each and every word … I am thankful ( somehow ) that most JWs have no idea what often happens.
    …… sigh ……
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    This is indeed a comforting statement (made by so called apostate) for many JW members. Too bad it won’t be published in WTJWorg magazines.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Thinking in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Even Franz who wrote the book Crisis of conscience…stated clearly on a utube interview he did not think JWs had any more of a problem with this than  any other faith.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    laughing?  You know, my husband says: There is nothing so democratic as the presence of sin in every person. That is why it is so important to be close to god, be humble, and work on yourself every day. 
    While I agree, one can be naïve regarding human wickedness - there is nothing as good as being taught by Jehovah and having the fear of Him. This alone keeps one on the straight and narrow and helps one to maintain godly devotion.
    Rejecting the only organization which tries to maintain cleanliness (pure worship) according to Jehovah's standards - that is true naivety. You see, while we cannot expect perfection from all brothers ( due to imperfection), we do well to expect them to keep the congregation clean of people who can wreck the faith of others or bring the leaven in. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    There are many ways to be trapped - especially when you think you are not trapped! lol
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Pudgy in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    Not excuses, but examples.  Whereas, you are so ashamed you hide behind a dog cartoon. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Thinking in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    Thinking up votes 
    him because he’s encouraging and often seems to reflect Russell’s views,..of which I hope come about as they are kinder ….and if some people cannot accept Jehovah’s patience as Bro Rando explains …. what do you expect Jehovah to do with them,,,….and he’s very brave in his faith to write before fools such as you..I think you have a sick problem you may be projecting on to him…..Go Bro Brando …keep up the fine work…none of us have everything right…and I’m sure we will be In  for some surprises….
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    My observation was about you, PwfT, being unfair and slanderous to BroRando, not about what TTH said.
    Instead of apologizing, you made excuses.
     
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