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I don't  think it was meant that way Arauna. @Anna asked a genuine question about the very young children being included in the count and @James Thomas Rook Jr. being his normal self made a joke about two or three year olds being included. 
It wasn't to suggest that adult JWs are children or babies. It was actually talking about real babies. 

God has not given any authority to the GB or the rest of the Leaders of the CCJW. Even the GB admit to NOT BEING inspired by God's Holy Spirit, and they admit that they 'err', or deliberately do wrong. 
They used to pretend that Elders were appointed by Holy Spirit, but now they admit that Elders are NOT appointed by Holy spirit. 
The GB have back tracked on many things. They constantly change the 'teachings' through the Watchtower. 
The GB also deliberately 'forget' that the 'Body of Christ' are 'FELLOW SLAVES', and the GB use the Elders to control those FELLOW SLAVES. Those FELLOW SLAVES are told not to meet together and not to have Bible study together.
AND, disgustingly, the GB accuse their FELLOW SLAVES of 'working against the Holy Spirit'. 
You of course serve your GB and are therefore blinded by their trickery and falsehood. Go careful, blind guides is what they are and you will all fall into the pit. You will have no excuse when Judgement arrives. 
 

God has not given any authority to the GB or the rest of the Leaders of the CCJW. Even the GB admit to NOT BEING inspired by God's Holy Spirit, and they admit that they 'err', or deliberately do wrong. 
They used to pretend that Elders were appointed by Holy Spirit, but now they admit that Elders are NOT appointed by Holy spirit. 
The GB have back tracked on many things. They constantly change the 'teachings' through the Watchtower. 
The GB also deliberately 'forget' that the 'Body of Christ' are 'FELLOW SLAVES', and the GB use the Elders to control those FELLOW SLAVES. Those FELLOW SLAVES are told not to meet together and not to have Bible study together.
AND, disgustingly, the GB accuse their FELLOW SLAVES of 'working against the Holy Spirit'. 
You of course serve your GB and are therefore blinded by their trickery and falsehood. Go careful, blind guides is what they are and you will all fall into the pit. You will have no excuse when Judgement arrives. 
 

God has not given any authority to the GB or the rest of the Leaders of the CCJW. Even the GB admit to NOT BEING inspired by God's Holy Spirit, and they admit that they 'err', or deliberately do wrong. 
They used to pretend that Elders were appointed by Holy Spirit, but now they admit that Elders are NOT appointed by Holy spirit. 
The GB have back tracked on many things. They constantly change the 'teachings' through the Watchtower. 
The GB also deliberately 'forget' that the 'Body of Christ' are 'FELLOW SLAVES', and the GB use the Elders to control those FELLOW SLAVES. Those FELLOW SLAVES are told not to meet together and not to have Bible study together.
AND, disgustingly, the GB accuse their FELLOW SLAVES of 'working against the Holy Spirit'. 
You of course serve your GB and are therefore blinded by their trickery and falsehood. Go careful, blind guides is what they are and you will all fall into the pit. You will have no excuse when Judgement arrives. 
 

It has everything to do with the GB, false witnesses. (Rev 13:11) They are not Christ, but they give the elder body the authority to judge another's spirituality.  
John 16:2; Rev 13:15
 

“Evidently” it was an organizational decision, and it seemed “reasonable to conclude” that “slave” only applies to those with authoritative power already set in place.  Whomever they choose, or vote in, become a "slave".  

Not that this relates, or even that anyone will believe it but :- 
Whilst trying to do some research i read an experience online, about a lady householder that was called on by two female JWs. The topic of God's name came up and the householder said that God's name is Yahweh. To cut this shot, the outcome was that the two female JWs accused the householder of not being interested in making God's name known, just because the householder would not accept the name Jehovah as being God's name. 
So, it does show how it affects situations / conversations. The householder may never speak to JWs again. 
 

You females are still deliberately bypassing the point. 
YOUR own Org, said YAHWEH was more likely to be correct. But they don't want to use what is more likely to be correct. So I agree with your Org that Yahweh is more likely to be correct. 
You see, the difference between your outlook and mine is this, You conform to your GB and it's Org and therefore you are given CCJW answers even before you ask questions.
It's a bit like scientists being paid to do research, but the one paying tells the scientists what result they MUST find. So it is in the CCJW, you are allowed to do research, but you MUST come up with the answers that the GB tell you to. 
Whereas I am now in the position of having an open mind and being able to consider all possibilities. I am not restricted to obeying men, not threatened with being shunned or d/fed.  
JW Insider seems to sit on the fence between those two choices, but you ladies seem to just follow the CCJW where ever it leads you. Srecko is a great 'breath of fresh air and life' here, because he has his totally independent viewpoint. 
One thing that is becoming abundantly clearer to me is the fact that the CCJW / W/t Soc' is American. So it seems that JWs, American or not, are very influenced by this American attitude of having to be right. Even if in the 'small print' they admit to being wrong, they still have to push this idea of being right. 
That point has been made so clear by the GB, with the Child Sexual Abuse problems. And it spreads from that into other things. The attitude of JWs on here, being so self righteous and insulting. 
Each of us should use the name for God that we honestly feel is right. If any of you are only using the name you are told to use, then IMO, it shows a lack of personal relationship with God. 
Please remember, i have no hate for any of you, I may feel disappointment but i will have to deal with that, I wish you all well. 
 

@Arauna Keeps going on about 'the slave' .  She means the GB of course. 
But the scriptures say at Matthew 24 v 45 - 51
 “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?z 46  Happy is that slave if his master on coming finds him doing so!a 47  Truly I say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.48  “But if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying,’b 49  and he starts to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, 50  the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know,c 51  and he will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his place with the hypocrites. There is where his weeping and the gnashing of his teeth will be.   Note there is more that one 'slave' and in fact more than one 'type' of slave.   Arauna along with her Leaders the GB, don't want to think about the others, for obvious reasons.   Arauna start to think about the FELLOW SLAVES. They are more than equal to your GB.         

@Witness & @Srecko Sostar  you have both got me thinking on this now. 
It is very interesting and it will get me re-reading the Greek Scriptures once again but from a different viewpoint. 
However the NWT is what I've been using and now I'm thinking I need a different translation of God's Word. 
The NWT does alter words to suit there own agenda, so a comparison would be nice, but in hard copy. 
I know lots are available to read online but It would be great to get away from this screen and maybe read in the garden. 
 
 

However the GB / leaders of CCJW may not want it in the public eye. 
I know this life is not the 'most' important, but it seems crazy to let yourself die especially when compared to Matthew 12 v 9 through 12, when a Jew would break the Mosaic Law to save an animal. 
Yeshua / Jesus made it very clear in that scripture 'how much more valuable is a man / person than a sheep / animal'. 
Each to their own Bible trained conscience, unless you are a JW, then it's do as you are told by your Leaders.
 

Gordon this Gordon that. One man's opinions it seems. And a certain lady seems to put her trust in this one man.
So be it. YHWH = Yahweh.   
Have a good day. 
 

Oh dear the debate continues. 
So does it seems that people are now agreeing on the Y instead of the J 
And what about the W instead of V. 
And does it seem that the last H is not sounded. 
So that would bring us to YHWH = Spoken as Yahwee (h) 
Reminds me a bit of PARIS which is actually pronounced Pahree or Paghee
A French native would pronounce “Pahree” or rather “Paghee” -the French r (Paris) is a raspy note, pronounced at the back of the throat; it is the sound that we make while gargling.7 Nov 201
BUT it is still written PARIS. 
So with Almighty God's true name i'll stick with YHWH = YAHWEH = pronounced as Yahwee 
After all, I answer to God through Christ, not to men. 
The only other choice I would have is to trust humans to make me decisions for me. 
Hope you all have a pleasant Sunday. 

Quote @JW Insider  " I get the feeling you are only interested in the opinions that make it seem like the WTS is wrong, "
BUT, the CCJW / W/t Soc' have said that Yahweh is most probably right, but that they want to stick with the name Jehovah. 
Posted Friday at 03:32 PM Quote from your comment.  " I don't know that Yahweh is correct. I only agree with the Watchtower publications that say Yahweh is more likely than Yehowah based on Hebrew pronunciation patterns for that particular sequence of consonants. "
So how am i "only interested in the opinions that make it seem like the WTS is wrong, "
If the W/t are saying that Yahweh is more likely correct, then I'm agreeing with them.
As for Yeshua, yes it would be showing more respect to 'Jesus'. But imo, not so important as God's real name.
The main point being that the CCJW / W/t,  'pretend' that they have been 'given' God's name by God Himself. This idea that God has taken out a people for His name, becomes ridiculous if the name they use is wrong, it just shows they were not and are not inspired of God. And when the GB / CCJW /W/t admit that Yahweh is more likely correct, but stick to what it then seems even they believe to be incorrect, it makes no sense. 
A people for HIS name but using the wrong name. 
If the Org / W/t  hadn't put in writing that they believe Yahweh is more correct. then no one would have known. But to admit to actually knowing that Yahweh is more correct, but still saying they have God's name is hypocrisy.. 

You females are still deliberately bypassing the point. 
YOUR own Org, said YAHWEH was more likely to be correct. But they don't want to use what is more likely to be correct. So I agree with your Org that Yahweh is more likely to be correct. 
You see, the difference between your outlook and mine is this, You conform to your GB and it's Org and therefore you are given CCJW answers even before you ask questions.
It's a bit like scientists being paid to do research, but the one paying tells the scientists what result they MUST find. So it is in the CCJW, you are allowed to do research, but you MUST come up with the answers that the GB tell you to. 
Whereas I am now in the position of having an open mind and being able to consider all possibilities. I am not restricted to obeying men, not threatened with being shunned or d/fed.  
JW Insider seems to sit on the fence between those two choices, but you ladies seem to just follow the CCJW where ever it leads you. Srecko is a great 'breath of fresh air and life' here, because he has his totally independent viewpoint. 
One thing that is becoming abundantly clearer to me is the fact that the CCJW / W/t Soc' is American. So it seems that JWs, American or not, are very influenced by this American attitude of having to be right. Even if in the 'small print' they admit to being wrong, they still have to push this idea of being right. 
That point has been made so clear by the GB, with the Child Sexual Abuse problems. And it spreads from that into other things. The attitude of JWs on here, being so self righteous and insulting. 
Each of us should use the name for God that we honestly feel is right. If any of you are only using the name you are told to use, then IMO, it shows a lack of personal relationship with God. 
Please remember, i have no hate for any of you, I may feel disappointment but i will have to deal with that, I wish you all well. 
 

@Witness & @Srecko Sostar  you have both got me thinking on this now. 
It is very interesting and it will get me re-reading the Greek Scriptures once again but from a different viewpoint. 
However the NWT is what I've been using and now I'm thinking I need a different translation of God's Word. 
The NWT does alter words to suit there own agenda, so a comparison would be nice, but in hard copy. 
I know lots are available to read online but It would be great to get away from this screen and maybe read in the garden. 
 
 

@Arauna Keeps going on about 'the slave' .  She means the GB of course. 
But the scriptures say at Matthew 24 v 45 - 51
 “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?z 46  Happy is that slave if his master on coming finds him doing so!a 47  Truly I say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.48  “But if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying,’b 49  and he starts to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, 50  the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know,c 51  and he will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his place with the hypocrites. There is where his weeping and the gnashing of his teeth will be.   Note there is more that one 'slave' and in fact more than one 'type' of slave.   Arauna along with her Leaders the GB, don't want to think about the others, for obvious reasons.   Arauna start to think about the FELLOW SLAVES. They are more than equal to your GB.         

Absolutely. WTJWorg study magazines and other publications with GB as Main Doctrinal Body who giving interpretations on Bible text forgetting reality: Between good and bad, between black and white is wide specter of details and variations. 
But they want only one picture about themselves to be visible and applicable on them. Positive and "imperfectly perfect"picture. Because of such illusion and wrong self perception they are not able to see how their policy and leadership contributes in fulfillment of second part (impossible to be part, as they say) about "evil slave". 
And here we came to second issue. No one appointed them to be in that role of "slave" - good or evil. They choose to be in that role by own free will.  
 

No, it’s a component of Matt 10:35
NKJV:  “For I have come to ‘set[j] a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’”
[j] “alienate”
 dee-khad'-zo; from a derivative of G1364; to make apart, i.e. sunder (figuratively, alienate):—set at variance.
Usage:  to cut into two parts, cleave asunder, sever

Dear @Arauna,
Jesus said, “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. 35 For I have come to ‘set (“alienate”) a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; 36 and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’ 37 He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38 And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. 39 He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.  Matt 10:34-39 
This is being fulfilled in the Watchtower organization, the place that promotes a false sense of “peace and security”. (1 Thess 5:3)  Those who follow Christ and not men, “lose” their life and family that they had known, through disfellowshipping. 
Jesus began ruling since the first century; at the end of Armageddon, he will “deliver the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.”  1 Cor 15:24
Then, the Kingdom of God begins.  We cannot follow and obey Jesus Christ and obey all the rules and regulations of false prophets also.  2 Cor 6:14-18  If you truly care to follow Christ, and speak for his truth, in no time at all you also would be spiritually "killed" by your leaders.  Rev 13:15  Once you lose that life, solely for the sake of Christ...you will find eternal life.  Only then, will you experience the peace Jesus Christ offers us.    Matt 11:28
"Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you."  Matt 5:11,12
It is your organization which has authority and power over JWs and God's anointed ones, that consistently persecutes people, and teaches its members to do the same. 
Unlike your "slave", I have no followers.  Jesus does.   
 
 

I have never claimed to be a prophet but merely speculate on what is already happening in the world and where it happens to coincide with bible prophecy..... so do not put words in my mouth......I merely stipulate it to get people to think. 
As far as I know the prophecy about end of days  in Mathew 24 specifically says we will be preaching about the "kingdom"....... so how can you preach about christ as king in the time of end if you do not believe his kingdom has started ruling...?
Matthew also says we will be persecuted for using christs name.  Why?  Because soon they (the powers that be) will require all to accept only one God........ if you still profess the kingdom of christ and his ransom sacrifice (which made the kingdom possible)- you will be persecuted.
Viper is the word Jesus used. Your words mislead those who listen to you.  I have NO agenda .....but your MO is to create hate for the slave. OCD-hate.  I am your target because I accept the slave.
Other way round. My knowledge of the bible helps me to recognize signs going on in the world.  The "slave" has given me a sound basis to see for myself what is out there. I am not a slave to my own desires or "position" or ambition or a wish to be recognised..... just enjoy spiritual things.  I do not have unforgiving hate to contend with and can concentrate on what is really going on.
There is a call to all lost sheep..... there is still time to repent.
Well - the purpose of God is at present not in fulfillment..but he is still "administering his purpose"..... and most people on earth do not even know His real name..... they call him God, lord, the God, and various other titles. They do not even know the tetragrammaton exists.
 You are just like those who stopped using the name of God and blamed jesus for healing on the Sabbath.  
You can write long dissertations about my comment - I will not read them.  I merely answered your accusations so your "disciples on here" - those who hang on your lips and agree with you (just because you hate the organization and use very contradictory reasonings)  can know what they are getting into and be warned...... you are not a spiritual jew............the inconsistencies in your reasoning is proof of that.
I, unlike you, do not profess to be anointed and yes, I do accept 1914 because of the evidence.... and I do accept the slave.  .... and I think it is too late in the stream of time to stay busy with petty disputes.  Jesus warned us to be found in peace.  Have you found peace yet?  One cannot have peace if you have hate. 

I don’t believe I have made the claim that I know everything, but this is a deep-seated belief of mine, which anyone can accept or reject.  It was an anointed brother who brought this to my attention quite a few years ago.  That’s right, a brother who also was ousted by the organization for rejecting falsehoods.  (John 16:2; Rev 13:15) Besides, I think we both know that Arauna (it was she that received my comment) listens to whom she chooses when it fits her agenda, and pushes that agenda pretty strongly.   Her belief system is a hodgepodge of her own theories and prophesies, mixed with teachings of the governing body.   She claims her worldly experience attributes to her prophetic knowledge.  (1 Cor 2:13,14)  Yet, according to her, whatever I offer is poison and will kill anyone who accepts what I might say.   She, on the other hand, who gives her own slant to the GB teachings is “safe” in the organization since she speaks highly of the very men she may disagree with.  And, she is a staunch believer in the 1914 debacle. As many JWs do, she gives “testimony” about her god, “Jehovah” and his organization, instead of Jesus Christ. (Isa 46:5)
If you want to believe that God decided to send his Holy Spirit on individuals to change how the tetrgrammaton should be dealt with and pronounced, as Arauna indicates, that’s your choice.  It was  written down in the inspired scriptures years before the invention of “Jehovah” emerged. She seems to indicate that somehow God was shamed until this point, which would include the time Jesus was on earth and the way he taught us to approach the Father.  Because of this, the scriptures apparently needed adjusting, even though we are not to add or take away from the Word of God.  Regardless, the Watchtower decided the scriptures require the fabricated name “Jehovah” to be inserted, even in places where the tetragrammaton never existed in the holy scriptures. I am not saying other translations don’t use “Jehovah”, but WT’s leaders seem to think it needs to flood His word a good 7,000 times. And they make sure they brag about it. 
 Possibly, it is just opposite of what JWs/Arauna believes. What if God has exposed what His people have done by embracing not only a made up name that actually disgraces the meaning of the tetragrammaton, but a man-made organization that demeans the true Zion/Temple of God in the anointed priesthood. (Dan 7:7; 11:38; Rev 13:1-8; 11:1-3,7; 1 Cor 3:16,17)  These are pieces of the puzzle that Satan the Destroyer, has devised to deceive the remnant into believing a lie. (Rev 16:13-16; Joel 3:14)     Arauna quotes Joel 2:26. The locust army came against God’s people because of their sins. (Joel 2:12,13)  God’s name then and now, is “shamed” by the actions of His anointed priesthood, and those with them,  who profess to know Him, but choose to listen to the assumed authority and power of men and their falsehoods, instead of listening to their Master, Jesus Christ.  (Matt 24:48-51; Rev 18:4-8)
 
 
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-name.html
 
 

I think you've answered your own question. It's not logical that this would be secret IF JW.org would like us to follow that direction. It may not be official yet. But, in saying that, JWs know that we do not accept plasma, so nothing new there, however what might have to be clarified is whether this serum is a fraction of the plasma, in which case that would be a conscience matter....

@Julie Bayley maybe the reason you are shocked is because these things are kept hidden by the Elders in the congregations. I hope you are aware that this type of thing is happening Earthwide in the JW Org.
If you are not aware then I suggest you do a Google search for Jehovah's Witnesses Child Sexual Abuse.
You will be horrified at what you find out. 

But TTH says 'No one can disfellowship the GB'. And it has been proven that their Lawyers are dishonest.
Therefore any changes will have to be 'authorised' from much 'higher up'. 
May the God of Heaven and Earth show mercy to HIS true followers and bring in justice, truth and guidance soon.  I think cases such as this, and there are many more of them,  prove the need for a True Anointed to guide and protect Almighty God's people. 
As for the GB / CCJW maybe this applies :- Revelation 2. v 4 & 5
 Nevertheless, I hold this against you, that you have left the love you had at first.5  “‘Therefore remember from where you have fallen, and repent and do the deeds you did at first. If you do not, I will come to you, and I will remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent.
English Standard Version
But I have this against you, that you have abandoned the love you had at first. 
But I fear that all those with 'power and authority' within CCJW will not listen, not even to God through Christ.