Patiently waiting for Truth

When I was young and in high school….I was an avid reader…the only subject I got an A in was history…but even at 14 and 15yrs old….I could see that the WW1 was very different to other wars…one aspect that was glaring to me as a young girl..was how women had changed in our clothing dramatically …in the Era of WW1…it was shameful to show one’s ankle and a woman was really fully covered…yet that same woman would still be Alive in 1960 and 1970s….her generation lived to see the bra less look…the mini skirt..the topless bathing…the see thru braless look ….the nudist beaches…the free sex..for everyone …and hippie era ….I often wondered what they thought..she would have been about 70 / 80 yrs old as they watched this phenomena…..because no other war before..had ever caused such a thing to be able to happen….at the time I didn’t own a Bible and had no religion to speak of….
This is just one aspect that ..that Huge war caused…it’s tentacles rearranged everyone’s thinking and attitudes around the world ….I really dont know how anyone can say that it was just like any other war…and I’m not even considering  anything from a spiritual view ….just a common sense thinking ….practical thinking….factual thinking….that fellow was right…it certainly was a GREAT WAR ..like never before it rocked the earth and set the foundation for the second GREAT WAR…they say in the scientific world that it actually affected everyone genetically …their trauma and PTSD was I imprinted  in their genes to be passed on to their children …it really was like no other War…perhaps the first  -PAINFUL -pang felt from that pregnant woman.

There are "nougats of truth", as I had said, and found in those books; and the Aid to Bible Understanding comes closer to those examples than the Insight books.  As you read about the anointed as a spiritual temple, compare that with what GB G. Loesch has now said; that every JW is now, the spiritual temple.  Which will you choose to believe?  Are these changes toward more truth, toward a more brilliant "light"?  Which offering of "food" will you love?   These are changes that have led to full-fledged lies, just as the development of a frog begins with an egg, to tadpole, and eventually becomes the adult frog.  Frogs plagued Egypt; lies by false prophets/GB, and the elder/organization are the plague facing God's anointed "kings of the earth" (Rev 1:5), and all JWs today.  (Rev 16:13-16)

And of course, Christendom has Easter eggs, chocolate rabbits, dyed baby chickens, sugar coated marshmallow animals, and lots of sacramental wine!

Your extreme fear of dying has totally screwed up your thinking.

Yes! @JW Insider won nothing, or did he. With uneducated students of the bible, you could be right! But twisting literature, as he usually does to spin his logic, is still meaningless. So, to bible scholars, it becomes nonsensical drivel, just like freaky mutts.
What I don't get, when ExJWs do it, it becomes an argument for you fakers of the truth. I don't mean that obtuse mutt, his D'fd, but everyone else.
Well, I came back just to prove the threat made by that vicious mutt wrong about surgery, dying and knowing about it. Continue fooling the public.

You've left out the anointing, which is the "inspiration" of Holy Spirit.  It is "poured" into the anointed heart, spiritually "writing" God's laws on their heart.  (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16; Eph 2:20-22; Heb 8:10; Isa 43:10) It is a spiritual "circumcision" of the heart. (Col 2:9-11) Why would they have these laws of Christ's teachings written on their heart?(Heb 8:4,5) Because they are priests of God who are to teach and serve the people. 
Mal 2:7 - “For the lips of a priest should keep knowledge,
And people should seek the law from his mouth;
For he is the messenger of the Lord of hosts."
They are the "living stones" of God's Temple/dwelling in Spirit. (1 Pet 2:5)   Do you recognize the authentic priesthood in your organization?  Why aren't they teaching? (Mal 2:7) Why isn't the GB working with THEM, the anointed, to serve proper food, instead of with elders who have not had the Holy Spirit poured into their hearts?   (Matt 24:48-51)  
Since all anointed are "inspired" - unless they disobey Christ and leave him as their head, (Col 2:19), allowing men to lead them instead -  then any prophet who would arise in the "last days", would also be inspired.  Acts 2:17,18; Matt 17:11; Mal 3:1-4; 4:5,6; Rev 1:1-3
Get out the Insight on the Scriptures Books.  Look up spiritual temple, the anointed, priesthood.  Things have changed in the organization. Where one could once find nougats of truth, now none are left.  (1 Tim 4:1; Col 2:8; Rev 16:13-16)  
 
 
 
 

Ahhhhhh… I understand now!
I found it!
My squeaky toy rolled behind the sofa.

@Pudgy made a claim. More of wishing me dead, scenario. I mentioned I would reply after my resurrection to undermine his obtuse assertion. No surgery, I’m still here.
Since this forum was formed so @TrueTomHarley and a few others could use it as a research center to study apostate opinions, then, the only ones exalting the GB are ExJWs and those current fake witnesses here.
To the rest of the Brotherhood, the GB are fellow servants in Christ, just like the Elders. They deserve our respect because of the double work they do.
Now, in many respects, @Witness understanding is misplaced because of her insistence of making it her mission to disprove what the GB are doing is wrong, because she believes what they are doing is against bible principle while she is doing the same thing with scripture. Then It becomes a matter about interpretation. However, only one can be right.
Those that pervert scripture to gain their own understanding, are allowing the devil do his work through them. Essentially becoming false prophets.
Thus far, as of April 05, 2022, I have yet to see the Watchtower not understand and apply scripture as intended by its context as a Bible Scholar.
There’s only one way to view scripture. That is with wisdom, knowledge, and time. Something everyone here has failed to see because they are too busy causing strife by answering insignificant questions by ExJWs that shouldn’t be done to begin with. If witnesses understood better, they’d notice, they are poisoning their own well, by being active here. This poisoning of one's mind is the danger Christ spoke about.
There were thousands speaking against Christ and the apostles. They remained committed to their mission. They were threatened and killed because of that mission. Staying focused in being messengers of the God and the kingdom's good news takes dedication no matter where you are.
This is a learning center for a selected few here. Not a forum for righteousness. The Watchtower Doesn’t need defending, nor does the truth. Consider your own spiritually while trying to convince others, of theirs. It doesn’t work.
Christ didn’t bother with Satan himself, much less with Pagans if any that tried to convince him that worshiping other gods was better than Judaism and Christianity.
A choice should have been made long ago, now it's time to decide. What is your True calling!
 
*** w21 January p. 4 par. 12 Keep Calm and Trust in Jehovah ***
12 The apostles had direct evidence that Jehovah was with them. He had given them the power to perform miracles. (Acts 5:12-16; 6:8) That is not the case with us today. Even so, through his Word, Jehovah lovingly assures us that when we suffer for the sake of righteousness, he is pleased with us and his spirit is with us. (Read 1 Peter 3:14; 4:14.)
When the word “gifts” is used, it’s not meant as a “supernatural” proposition. As Christians, we don’t possess the gifts the apostles and some first century anointed Christians had. However, there were others preforming miracles that weren’t assigned by God’s Holy Spirit.
 
How does one view gifts in modern time.
 
*** w14 2/15 p. 11 Rejoice Over the Marriage of the Lamb! ***
“THEY WILL BE BROUGHT WITH REJOICING”
14 Read Psalm 45:12, 14b, 15. The prophet Zechariah foretold that in the time of the end, people of the nations would gratefully associate themselves with the remnant of spiritual Israel. He wrote: “In those days ten men out of all the languages of the nations will take hold, yes, they will take firm hold of the robe of a Jew, saying: ‘We want to go with you, for we have heard that God is with you people.’” (Zech. 8:23) At Psalm 45:12, these symbolic “ten men” are spoken of as “the daughter of Tyre” and “the wealthiest of men.” They come to the anointed remnant with gifts, ‘seeking their favor’ and spiritual help. Since 1935, millions of people have allowed the remnant to ‘bring them to righteousness.’ (Dan. 12:3) These loyal companions of the anointed Christians have purified their lives, becoming spiritual virgins. These “virgin companions” of the bride have dedicated themselves to Jehovah and have proved themselves to be faithful subjects of the Bridegroom-King.
 
 *** w10 10/1 p. 13 Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Practice Faith Healing? ***
What, though, about today? Faith healers in Christendom as well as in some non-Christian religions claim to perform miraculous healings. Yet, Jesus himself sternly warned against individuals who would claim to have “performed many miracles” in his name. He would say to them: “I never knew you. Get away from me, you evildoers!” (Matthew 7:22, 23, International Standard Version) So, are the supposed miracles of modern-day faith healers really an indication of God’s approval or blessing?
 
 *** w10 10/1 p. 13 Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Practice Faith Healing? ***
There is, however, a group of Christians who are united by a bond of love so strong that they refuse to harm one another—or anyone else for that matter—even during the fiercest of human conflicts. Who are they? Jehovah’s Witnesses. Worldwide, they are known for displaying Christlike love. Uniting people of diverse racial, national, cultural, and ethnic backgrounds is a miracle, so to speak, and is made possible only by God’s holy spirit. Why not attend one of their meetings and see for yourself?
 
 *** w16 January p. 19 par. 10 The Spirit Bears Witness With Our Spirit ***
10 Those who have received this special invitation from God do not need another witness from any other source. They do not need someone else to verify what has happened to them. Jehovah leaves no doubt whatsoever in their minds and hearts. The apostle John tells such anointed Christians: “You have an anointing from the holy one, and all of you have knowledge.” He further states: “As for you, the anointing that you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to be teaching you; but the anointing from him is teaching you about all things and is true and is no lie. Just as it has taught you, remain in union with him.” (1 John 2:20, 27) These ones need spiritual instruction just like everyone else. But they do not need anyone to validate their anointing. The most powerful force in the universe has given them this conviction!
 
*** w16 January pp. 19-20 The Spirit Bears Witness With Our Spirit ***
EXPERIENCING THE “NEW BIRTH”
11 When the holy spirit imparts this conviction, the Christian who is anointed undergoes tremendous changes. Jesus referred to this inner process as being “born again,” or being “born from above.” (John 3:3, 5; ftn.) He explained further: “Do not be amazed because I told you: You people must be born again. The wind blows where it wants to, and you hear the sound of it, but you do not know where it comes from and where it is going. So it is with everyone who has been born from the spirit.” (John 3:7, 8) Clearly, it is impossible to explain fully this personal calling to those who have not experienced it.
 
*** w16 January p. 24 par. 7 “We Want to Go With You” ***
7 Although it is a wonderful privilege to have the heavenly calling, anointed Christians do not expect any special honor from others. (Eph. 1:18, 19; read Philippians 2:2, 3.) Jehovah’s spirit bore witness to them personally. No announcement was made to the world. So they are not surprised if some people do not readily believe that they have truly been anointed by holy spirit. In fact, they realize that the Scriptures advise against quickly believing someone who claims to have a special appointment from God. (Rev. 2:2) In no way, then, would they use their anointing as a “calling card” to introduce themselves to others. For the most part, they would not even mention this personal experience to others, so as to avoid drawing attention to themselves; neither would they want to boast about their future reward.—1 Cor. 1:28, 29; read 1 Corinthians 4:6-8.
 
*** w16 January p. 24 “We Want to Go With You” ***
HOW SHOULD YOU REACT?
9 How should you treat someone who partakes of the Memorial emblems? Jesus told his disciples: “All of you are brothers.” He went on to say: “Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.” (Matt. 23:8-12) Therefore, it would be wrong to exalt individuals, even if they are anointed brothers of Christ. Speaking about Christian elders, the Bible encourages us to imitate the faith of those who take the lead, but it never commands us to elevate any human as our leader. (Heb. 13:7) True, the Scriptures speak of some as being “considered worthy of double honor.” However, such ones are worthy of honor, not because they are anointed, but because they “preside in a fine way” and “work hard in speaking and teaching.” (1 Tim. 5:17) Therefore, it would be embarrassing for those with a heavenly calling if others were to give them undue praise or attention. Worse still, if they received special treatment, anointed Christians might find it difficult to remain humble. (Rom. 12:3) None of us would want to cause one of Christ’s brothers to stumble!—Luke 17:2.
 Now, the owner can “delete”, “ban” “remove” my account at the request of @TrueTomHarley and @JW Insider

Not to worry. God always supplies the spiritual food at the right time and I have just done my weekly Bible reading:
“he disguised his sanity in their presence and acted insane while among them. He was making marks on the doors of the gate and letting his saliva run down his beard.”
 The proper viewpoint to take is that of scripture: “You see that this man is crazy! Why bring him to me?  Do I have a shortage of crazy men that I need to have this one acting crazy before me? Should this man enter my house?”
Do you know I can almost see the saliva now?
Of course, he’s not really crazy. He’s just a mutt that needs a muzzle, grabbing issues by their parkas and shaking them like a raged dog with a rat. In a way he’s like PSomH himself, intolerant of human foible and error, best suited to being a being a loose cannon, forsaking all the obvious benefits of organization due to the sometimes abrasion of working with diverse others. Of course, if one has ever been the victim of chowderheads, moving on is not the easiest thing to do. But it is good when someone does it. 

We have examples in the Bible which show the anointing as miraculous.  Acts 2:1-4; 10:44-46   The pouring out of Holy Spirit on an individual God calls to be His priest in this day and age, is no less miraculous.  Since your leaders say they are "not inspired", then this proves they have left their covenant in Christ.  (John 15:4-7)
This is how spiritual harlots come about.  (Hos 4:15; Rev 13:11,12; 17:1,2)
Faithful to whom?  The anointed cannot bond in the organization, as said by your "faithful slave",  Arauna.  They cannot serve under Jesus Christ, but must answer to men - the elders.  A "faithful and discreet slave" is not a taskmaster, who requires full obedience to HIS spiritual food that continually fails, while disregarding all other members of the Body of Christ.  Your leaders are "okay" with disfellowshipping God's priesthood for rejecting your leaders' spiritual food!  1 John 3:11,12; John 16:2; Rev 13:15   
And, there is no chance of them being sealed while under the thumb of a wicked slave and the "man of lawlessness"/elder body. They are to come out of the organization and connect again, with Jesus Christ.   Rev 18:4-8
“Pure worship” is unobtainable in the Wt.  Again, the priests/living stones of God’s Temple, who must offer spiritual sacrifices of praise, are replaced and silenced by the elders not anointed.  Are their “daily sacrifices” acceptable replacements to God?  (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)
"You shall say to the rebellious ones, to the house of Israel, ‘This is what the Lord  God says: “Enough of all your abominations, house of Israel, 7 when you brought in foreigners, uncircumcised in heart and uncircumcised in flesh, to be in My sanctuary to profane it, My house, when you offered My food, the fat, and the blood and they broke My covenant—this in addition to all your abominations. 8 And you have not taken responsibility for My holy things yourselves, but you have appointed foreigners to take responsibility for My sanctuary.”  Ezek 44:6-9
In other words, the Temple/dwelling of God in the anointed, has been desolated by abominations – by elders not assigned by God to be His priests.  Elders “stand” in a position that was assigned to the anointed.  They judge God’s “special possession”.  (Ps 105:15)
“who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God”  2 Thess 2:4
The elders have taken their “seat”/ruling position as “representatives” of God’s priesthood.   
“Now when you see the abomination of desolation standing where it should not be—let the reader understand—then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains.”  Mark 13:14
Those are the scriptures from God’s word, and there is no scripture to refute the obligation of God’s priests today to serve as priests. The apostles were priests, they taught the anointed what to do, they led in truth. They expected the anointed in that day to teach truth in Christ and BOND as one body under their Head. (1 Cor 12)  Why would it stop with the advent of the Wt?  No excuses backed by scripture, can be made by men , to support their arrangement.   (Mal 2:7; Heb 8:4,5)   JWs who love the elders, love the “arrangement”, will refuse to take note and continue to listen to words of a wicked slave instead.  (Matt 24:48-51; 2 Thess 2:9-12; Rev 16:13-16; Luke 17:26,27; Rev 12:15; Matt 7:21-23)   
This is the message to be given to God's saints in the last days.  All with them, who can perceive this abomination are to get out.  (Mal 3:1-4; 4:4-6; Matt 17:11; Rev 11:1-3; Zech 4:6,7,11-14; Rev 14:6-12; 18:4-8)
 
 
 
 
 

That sounds like the “Prostitutes wear shoes… you wear shoes … so you must be a prostitute” fallacy, TTH.

That’s what The Godfather said when he left that horse head in the other fellow’s bed.

Though I know you’re not approaching it this way, this view is consistent with the theologians trained in critical thinking who automatically reject anything prophetic since “it is impossible to know the future.” Similarly, most of them reject miracles, since “such things that violate the laws of science don’t happen.” They almost reject God himself, and a far number of them do.

It was not meant as a taunt to make you angry, it was meant as a challenge to make you think.

I guess they have a lot of responsibilities at home and not much time to think about it - I have - but that taunt of yours falls on deaf ears.  I am not here to please YOU. I have made sure for myself and I do not waste my time on people who are not really interested.  If I had the slightest inkling that you would listen to me to try to understand a different point of view than your own - I would have taken the time to prepare an explanation.  You are ready to taunt.... so stick with your attitude.

I understand.
I have asked several Elders, who could not explain it either. 
One Elder was the smartest man at our Kingdom Hall. After I asked him he paused and replied (paraphrased) “I think they are trying the best they know how …”

My gut feeling is that when Jesus was talking about “ …. This generation will not pass away until all these things occur … “, he meant HIS generation .. not the death of Fred Franz, as shown on GB Bro. David Splain’s chart. ( if memory serves …..)
Whatever the case, I am sure the REAL TRUTH about the matter is what’re the Apostles understood the term “this generation” to mean, and I am guessing Jesus did not have a chart to explain it.
 

I do not have the time to look up the history again. I did it about two years ago. Tried to look for my old post but it seems to have been archived. I reasoned on the flood and the generations who were associated with the flood and afterward.... . I could have improved on my old reasoning if I hapoened to have found it.  
I just feel if I have gone to he trouble before and people still go on taunting without really wanting to reason....... I think the repeated  excercise is not worth my time. I rather benefit myself by learning something new.  Trying hard to benefit others on this forum is not met with appreciation but taunting..... like throwing pearls to......... a dead lion? 

I must have missed something AGAIN, and I do try to read all of Arauna’s posts in their entirety.
Did she ever explain to me from the Bible, about the “overlapping generations“?
I would like to understand what the Apostles understood about the “overlapping  generations”.
…… preferably with the simplicity one might use with a Springer Spaniel puppy.

Some news has just come to me about a JW man (whom I would have once called a brother) that I spent a lot of time with, until he was told not to spend time with me. He was in his mid 80's and on lots of meds' for heart problems etc. He has died in hospital. But if the information is correct, he fell down at his home, was unable to get up, and was not discovered for some time. He was 'old', he was ill, and death happens. But if he had still been in contact with me I may have found him much sooner and he may have lived longer. 
I'm not angry, I'm not sad, even with all his health problems, he had a good long life and kept himself happy even after his wife had died a few years before..
What this topic is for is to ask ALL of you. If you know of someone that may be 'fragile' in any way, or may just need comfort, Please visit them. Please help them to feel safe and wanted.
 

Now that would be great for a weekend trip in a 4x4 vehicle. And I bet he has some interesting stories he could tell. 

This totally contradicts my posts where I have stated that in my own opinion I WILL NOT be in that New world. 
Many Anointed ones went through all that but only to be told that that are no longer considered to be of the F&DS. 
The truth is that the GB tell you they are the F&DS and you believe them, although there is NO PROOF WHAT SO EVER, but because you worship them and not YHWH, you will believe those 8 men. Even though they twisted scripture such as the Romans 'superior authority', scripture, but you still serve them. 
They were preaching that only JWs would be saved and that a person HAD TO BE A BAPTISED JW TO GET SAVED. 
Now that may not be political but it has NO true foundation and it was only used to frighten people into the Org.

Um, now tell me, what name did Yeshua use in the 'model prayer' when teaching the  disciples how to pray. 
Matthew 6 : 9 Berean Study Bible
So then, this is how you should pray: ‘Our Father in heaven, hallowed be Your name.

But it wasn't you or me that made them the F&DS, it was them, THEMSELVES that decided they were. They exalted themselves above all the other Anointed ones. They called them selves the F&DS. 
The lies are many. They say they are the F&DS. That is a lie.  They say that other Anointed are NOT of the F&DS. Now you tell me what gives your GB the right to make that statement ? That proves they have exalted themselves above all other people on this Earth. 
I do not believe there is a F&DS at this time.  I do not believe there is one 'organisation' or 'religion' that is serving YHWH properly through Yeshua at this time. I think there are people as individuals that are doing their best to serve YHWH to the best of their ability right now though, but not as an organisation or structured religion. 
The Governing Body of the JW Org dictates how JWs do the work of the GB. That GB not only dictates how to 'preach' but WHAT EXACTLY to 'preach'. In other words JWs are just slaves of the GB. JWs are told to hand out propaganda written by the GB or authorised by the GB. Now if you stand at a cart just to give out the written words of the GB that makes you a servant of the GB not a servant of YHWH. But of course you do not want to understand that.....
If the GB wanted YHWH's word distributed they would have JWs handing out Bibles freely, not Watchtowers or Awake mags or tracts which are not from YHWH. 

Um, BUT the GB say that YHWH and Yeshua trust the GB. 
The GB state that they ARE the Faithful and Discreet Slave distributing properfood at the right time. EVEN THOUGH THE ONE SCRIPTURE ACTUALLY USED, IS A QUESTION, NOT A DIRECT STATEMENT OF WHOM.
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/w20130715/who-is-faithful-discreet-slave/
9 Do all anointed ones on earth make up the faithful slave? No. The reality is  that not all anointed ones have a role in dispensing spiritual food to fellow believers worldwide. Among the wheat are anointed brothers who may serve as ministerial servants or elders in their local congregation. They teach from house to house and in their congregation, and they loyally support the direction from headquarters. But they do not have a part in dispensing spiritual food to the worldwide brotherhood. Also among the anointed are humble sisters, who would never try to assume the role of teachers in the congregation.—1 Cor. 11:3; 14:34.
10 Who, then, is the faithful and discreet slave? In keeping with Jesus’ pattern of feeding many through the hands of a few, that slave is made up of a small group of anointed brothers who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food during Christ’s presence. Throughout the last days, the anointed brothers who make up the faithful slave have served together at headquarters. In recent decades, that slave has been closely identified with the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Note, however, that the word “slave” in Jesus’ illustration is singular, indicating that this is a composite slave. The decisions of the Governing Body are thus made collectively.
ALL OF THAT WATCHTOWER ARTICLE IS PURE LIES. WHY ? BECAUSE IT HAS NO TURE FOUNDATION. 
You cannot say that you will only speak truth from YHWH, and then speak deception.

I do not believe that YHWH or Yeshua sees them as all being the same. 
Matthew 18 : 5, 6, 7 
And whoever welcomes a little child like this in My name welcomes Me. But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. Woe to the world for the causes of sin. These stumbling blocks must come, but woe to the man through whom they come!
Now just think of how many children, earthwide, have been stumbled in the JW Org by sexual abuse of themselves or of close friends or relatives. 
Whole families have been stumbled, or REMOVED from the Org by Elders, because of CSA.  Unless of course you believe that EVERY complaint and EVERY court case is a lie. That is what your GB would have you believe. And, that is why your GB's Lawyers settle out of court but put 'gagging oders' on people. 
That 25 year JW Pedophile Database in the USA seems never to see the light of day.  Very strange that other 'civilised' countries have released their data info'. 
IT IS REALLY SAD THAT JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED INTO THINKING THAT CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE IN THEIR ORGANISATION DOES NOT MATTER.