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I'm just glad I live in England. I hope this is far enough away from James and his house full of weapons. Hope he doesn't get his hands on missiles. 
But seriously though, a country that starts a war for greed and power and is willing to kill other people. If the idea is to take land, goods, riches, people, livestock et al. Then it is premeditated killing that should not be happening. I do not think God approves of any of that. I would think that God would class it as murder. Whether as a whole, or as each individual killing. And I would think the ones doing the attacking and killing would be judged differently to those doing the defending. 
I have mixed feelings about killing for defence. But if someone was attacking my wife then I would think natural defence mechanism would come into play. 
However, the time will come, as i think @Arauna mentioned, when true servants of God will be attacked and killed. I have my doubts that God is gong to defend everyone of His servants. So, will God's true servants just allow themselves to be killed ? Allowing the stealing of our possessions is easy enough, but allowing someone to kill you / me, i don't know............ 

and you are so trigger-happy with the barbs, put-downs, and insults, not to mention the cartoons, that I hesitate to get close enough to find out.

A friend of mine used to say that he would never trust a willing military participant in the new system, for “he has proven in this system that he will pick up a gun and blow off my head if some man tells him to.”

Carefully crafted question to get the answer you have already decided upon.
You remind me of the liberation fighters in Africa who wrote doctors theses on their right to "fight" with weapons (and other means) to liberate themselves from colonial oppression. They all got degrees in theology and used the bible to justify their stance.   This means that anyone can justify their stance if they twist the teachings of Jesus. 
I firmly believe that we will be tested on this stance in future. The fact that we refuse to kill our brothers in another country or any other human (whatever the provocation) will test if we really love our neighbour.  Most religions are prepared to kill others.  If you love your life you will lose it - this was a scripture quoted last week in study.
"Abstain"   from blood, fornication and what us strangled...... this means stay away.... do not touch - the same as you will not touch or bring another woman close to you   or  Acts 20:    "but to write them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from what is strangled, and from blood."
In your mind yes.  Bring me a scripture in the new testament where jesus, Paul, John , Peter or James said anything to this effect...... I dare you to find a scripture which indicates we can use a weapon against another or defend ourselves by taking a life of another!  The new testament is clear that even abusive speech is NOT acceptable - in book of Judas. 
The heart is treacherous...... why?  We follow our own independent way away from obedience to God.      

I do not wonder at all.
WE SHOULD !!!
( ... speaking as one who refused any blood or fractions during recent heart surgeries ...)

It seems how JW people don't using proper Understanding when false Knowledge is presented.  
Knowledge: End is near
Understanding: We must build new modern center for making digital spiritual food.
In this, both is questionable. The knowledge and the understanding. 

I wonder if we should look for a direct scripture that says "You must not transfuse blood from one human to another human". 

Well, it doesn’t entirely fit, but the speaker yesterday drew the following contrast between knowledge and understanding:
Knowledge: a tomato is a fruit
Understanding: Don’t put it in a fruit salad.

Arauna, and TTH :
It is a very simple, carefully crafted question to isolate one specific principle, from the full spectrum of high volume noise that surrounds this issue.
Most people think the Ten Commandments say "Thou shalt not kill." .... and it doesn't.
I says "Thou shalt not MURDER"
There is a very real difference between one, and the other ... just as there is a very real difference between your personal culpability if you accidentally hit a child on a bicycle while driving, and kill them .... and if you drive up onto the sidewalk, and deliberately kill the same child.
There are cases when killing IS ACCEPTABLE, should you choose to exercise your natural right of self defense, that all living things have as a natural right, and if you choose to do so, and are able to manage overcoming your adversary with deadly force ... there is absolutely no blood guilt incurred.  That is just one of perhaps several examples.
Understanding WHY one is allowable by God, and not the other ... is the KEY to understanding everything about the issue of blood guilt, or NO blood guilt, in every example that would come up in life.
It may remind you of a satanically inspired question where there is only a binary choice, like "Do you STILL beat your wife", but it is not.
My ex-mother-in-law may remind me of a Shrew, but she is not.
It is a question that when correctly answered, will give a complete understanding of our obligations toward God, what ever that might be, in a world where life and death is a daily concern.
There is a difference between KNOWING something ( which may be flat wrong) and UNDERSTANDING something, and it all depends on being able to correctly discern the actual, really true answer the question about any subject you could put forward, and that is ....
WHY?

Does he want to eliminate the requirement that Christians refrain from wars? Is that what he is driving at?
I should take the time to figure out myself whether he is advocating that, I know, but he is not being particularly transparent, he is distracted by answering a number of dubious characters, I am always waiting for the other shoe to drop with him in the form of a staggeringly disrespectful cartoon or quote, and I am up to my ears in my own projects. Other than that, I have no excuse for not having deciphered this more accurately.

The question above is crafted very carefully  to avoid the main question: whether Jehovah allows any form of war or killing.  Especially after his Son paid the ransom sacrifice and told Peter to put away his sword - plus other scriptures which prove that christians are no part of the world otherwise they would fight.  Our fight is a spiritual warfare. Jesus was put to death because he did not become an earthly king to fight the Roman's.
Roman's 11: "  48 If we let him go on this way, they will all put faith in him, and the Romans will come and take away both our place and our nation.”
Romans 14:8  "For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah."  9 For
The  above question is designed to create a choice for either killing or murder - so no matter how  one answers it, it still looks as though war is acceptable because it is not murder.....so killing is acceptable......
A very sneaky question..... It reminds me of satan's question to eve:  you are not allowed to eat from ALL the trees in the garden......? .

Dear Tom,
try to look on this clergy-ordinary member issue from standpoint of WT publication, WT lawyer, JW congregation members and Bible. 
WT publication quoting how JW don't have PAID CLERGY. Obviously in the eyes of writer there is some difference between PAID and NOT PAID CLERGY. But, such explanation giving space for possibility that JW Church HAVE CLERGY at the end of the day.
WT Lawyer contribute and confirm that JW Church in fact HAVE CLERGY, and they defending this with asking for all rights and privileges for JW Elders as Catholic Church Clergy have. 
JW congregation members are in the middle and have delusion how their church do not have CLERGY because they believe that elders are not clergy.
Bible giving perspective how jobs or working place in congregation not making elders to be clergy but only people with more responsibilities. Bible say how ALL of YOU are BROTHERS.
In this picturing with explanation, in one Court case, what @James Thomas Rook Jr. highlighted in one post, WT Lawyers told how all JW people are "ordained ministers". That means how all members in JW Church belong to hierarchy as any Clergy does. In that aspect, even minor member belong to particular level of clergy hierarchy. 
With Bible explanation how ALL of YOU are BROTHERS we can say how every case of CSA in JW Church is more serious than those cases in Catholic church. Because in JW congregation, in theory, elders are just members of congregation and non elders people are also just members of the congregation. That makes CSA to be plague in all Body of JW congregation, and not just separate, lonely exemption of few people who made sin/crime as Catholic Priest in Roman Church. Catholic Laity are just laity, people who have weak spiritual education. In JW congregation rank and file members have best "spiritual education", according to WT publication claims, so they carry more responsibility and are more "guilty" than Catholic laity. :)) But, as we see more Catholic pedophile clergy/laity members ended in Court than JW pedophile members. And you know why.   

I noticed about some Bible verses and reports about some events where taking other people life is issue this:
In some events, according to Bible,  God making fire from heaven, earthquake, flood, angels warriors or similar and killed few or many people.
In some other events, perhaps there is more such reports, God told, command particular people to kill other people, under various and different circumstances.
From this we can conclude, how people who belong or think they belong to only true religion or organization can't know for sure: will their God told them to stay still and watch, or will He command them to take action. God showed two side of his will.
In old Israel they had professional soldiers, but before they came to have professional army, many were simple ordinary workers. And they learned skills. JW people today not learning such skills, but for sure learning how to use "theocratic warfare" methods .... and that can be lethal too. (Not reporting CSA to secular government and shunning policy can have for sure very bad results). 
 

When you make up stuff out of thin air ... there is no limit to the error that seems natural to you.
You failed the simple "two question test".
The Universe will give you your grades ... without compassion or mercy.

James, what your above comment shows is that you are a physical man not a spiritual man.
I note that you have a need to keep referring to earthly things, not spiritual ones
Therefore, as on the door to door ministry, I will just walk away and let you believe what you need to believe at this point. In six months time your attitude may be different, but right now you have that need. 
 
 

To quote tom harley once more "Constantly we read of individuals arrested over CSA allegations. The one detail that never accompanies such reports is that of the individual’s religious affiliation or lack thereof. Yet with Jehovah’s Witnesses, that detail is never lacking. Why? " 
Just to prove what rubbish tom writes here are three examples i've found to disprove his lies. 
https://abc7news.com/tag/priest-sex-abuse/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/church-england-child-sex-abuse-charles-gordon-dickenson-cheshire-vicar-paedophile-a8812131.html
https://fox13now.com/2017/06/23/lds-bishop-arrested-for-sexual-abuse/
 
 

A report on the torture of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia and 4Jah attaches an laughing emoji to it. What a nasty piece of work he is.

Yes there is a crazy imbalance of law and treatment of those breaking the law
Whilst I think it is horrendous that any person should be tortured for any reason, i have more sympathy / empathy with victims of CSA than i do for those who suffer for the sake of an Organisation. 
However I presume in Russia etc it is actual religious persecution, whereas in the other instances it is not.  But many religions in may places have suffered persecution so the activities in Russia etc does not prove the JW Org is 'serving God properly'. 
 

I note how tom has twisted the facts here. My laughing face emoji was towards tom's long and boring comment, making excuses for JW Org. You may note that tom was quoting from one of his books again, which in NO WAY related to the tortured JWs in Russia. 
Then tom goes on about CSA etc, which again is not about the Russian torture.

I think it is value to have personal opinion and thoughts about this subject. But i think you failed. 
I would like to ask, did or does Russian secret service follows ex-JW channels , blogs, commentaries on internet or else, at all, or in such measure of interest that be possible to said how such information "inspired" Russian Government in a level to ban WTJWorg in their country? 
Secular sources and even JWorg web site giving idea how ROC is reason why JW and other religions are under political attack. 
Jehovah's Witnesses are one of the main targets of the attack led by the Russian Orthodox Church.  - https://wol.jw.org/hr/wol/d/r19/lp-c/102001284
I think the real reason for this persecution is that they approach people directly, preach face-to-face, and thus compete with the Russian Orthodox Church in some regions. Obviously, the Moscow Patriarchate and top security officials are behind the whole story. " - https://hr.rbth.com/politics/2017/05/03/borba-s-jehovinim-svjedocima-rusija-zabranila-americku-crkvu_755251 
Also, you have funny article on JW web site, about Who is Gog from Magog with "new clarification". Your's leaders gave explanation in which nothing had been said about ex-JW who, supposedly, leading any attack against WTJWorg in Russia or elsewhere. - https://www.jw.org/hr/biblioteka/casopisi/w20150515/gog-iz-magoga/
I am suggesting  you to publish new article with demanti, own rebuttal. :)))

See how the report is about Jehovah’s Witnesses being tortured in Russia and @4Jah2me attaches a laughing emoji.
What a nasty piece of work he is.

As I can no longer be bothered to be drawn into the problem you have with yourself, I'll just let it go.
You seem to have the same problem as many on here.
You are a 'physical man' not a 'spiritual man'. You lack faith in the things you cannot see.
And you are still part of this world, just like Tom and Aurana. Still talking politics. 
11 pm in England. Goodnight
 

Whazzamatter 4J ?
Downvoting because you know there ISN'T any such scripture?
Downvoting because you know I'm right?
Perhaps some other reason you might want to share with us?
Had a bad hair day?
 

4Jah2me:
What I have said is crystal clear and unambiguous.
You just cannot wrap your mind around what I am actually saying, from the noise of what you THINK I might be saying.
Because your thought processes are agenda driven, you assume mine are also.
If they are, I am totally unaware of what that agenda might be.
However, this is a common problem.
it is crystal clear to me, that a million words and "buzz scriptures" to the contrary (scriptures that sound good as long as you do not try to make direct application, to a SPECIFIC circumstance ...), that Jehovah God DOES NOT consider legitimate warfare between any organized group of people to be murder.
It's like when the Democrats tried to impeach President Trump by charging him with "Abuse of Power", and "Obstruction of Congress".
This is something that the Voters should decide, because the STANDARD for impeaching a President ... overturning the expressed will of the majority of States in the Republic ... was if he was guilty of "High Crimes and Misdemeanors", of which he was CLEARLY NOT GUILTY ... as no one EVER charged him with violating ANY specific law.  Basically, he was impeached, but acquitted of all charges against him.
Had it not been a weaponized indictment to keep him from competing in the 2020 Presidential Elections, which it was ( I watched full weeks of it, in its entirety), and been a legitimate impeachment, he STILL would have been acquitted, as he did not commit a crime that ACTUALLY EXISTED.
Since Jehovah God DOES NOT consider legitimate warfare between any organized group of people to be murder, my ONLY concern is trying to understand the legal principle of ...... WHY?
After the American Civil War, between the States, Abraham Lincoln granted Amnesty to all those who committed treason against the Union, by warring against the Union, and peace was restored.
Murders on BOTH sides were NOT forgiven
To the best of my knowledge and belief, this is exactly how Jehovah God considers the making of war, and the making of peace.
And exactly how he considers murder.
all other discussions, that are not involved in getting the answer to WHY? ... are beside the point.
If you can show me a clear, unambiguous scripture that says Jehovah in any way considers warfare to be viewed as, and reacted to, as first degree, premeditated murder, I will accept that, and of course HAVE to change my viewpoint.
Until then ... everything else is ONLY opinion.

I went now on JWorg web and find this about my question:
 
Since 2007, the Swedish government has repeatedly refused to grant Jehovah's Witnesses state subsidies, despite the fact that most other religions have received them. Our beliefs concerning political neutrality were criticized.
Our brothers had to turn to court on three separate occasions to try to get a fair treatment by the Swedish government. And each time, the Supreme Administrative Court considered that the government's decision to refuse our organization state grants was contrary to the law and would be reassessed.
On October 24, 2019, the government finally amended its decision, noting that Jehovah's Witnesses fulfill all the requirements for state subsidies.
Yeah, WTJWorg go on Courts "fighting" for money. :)) Greed, love for money ??