Patiently waiting for Truth

If I had two heads .... would I be wearing THIS one?

Without further independent check-able proof, I do not believe ANY of this.
Nothing, whatsoever.
Any way to independently check this?
The burden of proof lies with those making the assertions.

It appears that they made the top choice, and one they were already familiar with, or had developed "ties" with, as we see from the jw org link.  
 
Wikipedia on Cesnur, the organization that Introvigne directs:
CESNUR has been described as "the highest profile lobbying and information group for controversial religions".
But, we know "the love of money is the root of all evil"
CESNUR describes itself as an independent scholarly organization, but the organization has met with criticism for alleged personal and financial ties to the groups it studies; anthropologist Richard Singelenberg questioned in 1997 whether CESNUR is "too friendly and does not make enough critical comments about new religious movements and sects".[12] Many scholars, however, see it in a favourable light and share its criticism of the "sect-monitors".[2]
 
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.  1 Tim 6:10
 

Perhaps they use sort of "strategy". To find "neutral" party/side who will find nice few words for them. 

Understandable given what they have caught with, but to use a known person who has advocated for the likes of Scientology? They really couldn't find anyone else? Or do you think they are doing this on purpose, actually wanting the guy who wrote for Scientology, so that maybe....just maybe, they won't look as bad as Scientology? 

I see that from your post. What I don't get is do they really think that an outside person is going to be able to explain the wt position better then they can? They have lawyers on speed dial, no? Or do you think they have to outsource because the wt's lawyers can only handle personal cases ( witness against another person or the like) and not really so when it comes to another organization?

They are desperate.  "Outsourcing" when Holy Spirit is not aiding them "in house", is the only way.  

The Jews, Jehovah's Witnesses, and many others  during World War II prayed to God for salvation, not understanding that FREEDOM means many hardships, and death as the price that often or always must be paid .... and there are no exceptions .... EVER.
The last time Jehovah God tweaked the global experiment that is the human race was about 2,000 years ago.
Similarly, when we are being chastised into prison, and later into death, we have two choices:
1.) Rely on the prayers of eight million and more Brothers and Sisters for your salvation, to Jehovah God who according to all non-fantasy hard data has not interfered with ANY person, nation or organization in any way whatsoever, in modern times, or
2.) Sell everything you own at ten kopeks on the ruble (ten cents on the dollar), and get out of town, fast.
Otherwise ... FREEDOM is just a null-word, with no meaning.
......... that is how the Universe REALLY works.
The Jews tried to hold onto their property, and real estate, but "left town fast" ....  up the chimney of a crematorium.
That is the preamble of what is going on in the Russian Federation, now !
 

I have a reputation for diplomatic subtlety ....

Sadly, the majority won’t say, “well that was short-lived! These men lied to us when they said, “the GB is convinced that Jehovah is directing that the world headquarters be moved to Warwick”.  The majority won’t say, “God didn’t bless the purchase of that land or their endeavor to build His house like they told us.”
I doubt that the majority of JWs will call the tornado, "an act of God".  They WILL somehow rationalize Lett’s words by saying, “Satan is the ultimate cause”, even though Lett also said,
 WELL, BY ALIENATING HUMANS FROM JEHOVAH, SATAN DEPRIVES THEM OF THE CREATOR LOVINGLY CONTROLLING THE WEATHER FOR THEIR BENEFIT. 
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/construction/video-world-headquarters-jehovahs-witnesses-history-warwick/
Confusion, confusion.   
A JW who was in a congregation that I attended, told another concerning my leaving, that I had "left the protective arms of Jehovah, found only through his organization".  I do believe many do expect divine protection.  
 
 
  http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/search?q=Fire+from+heaven

quote: The take-home message? Don't make far-reaching claims about what principle can or cannot explain a phenomenon until you have considered all theoretical formulations of the principle. - https://www.sciencealert.com/new-research-says-the-uncertainty-principle-might-be-slightly-more-certain

I expect all the JWs on here will run and hide in the Closed / Private Group, all in shame of their leaders the GB and the Lawyers that lie on their behalf. I wish there were more JWs on here, to give their honest opinion of the mess the JW Org is in. Surely this is not how God wants to be served ? 

I see we have a new Cowboy in the room. @Leander H. McNelly   Must be a friend of @BillyTheKid47 

Quote @Anna " If a tornado came tomorrow, and destroyed the new HQ in Warwick, what do you think most JWs would be saying? "
I'd be more interested in what Ex JWs would be saying . But John Butler got D/fed from here for writing his thoughts. 

Quote @Anna " If a tornado came tomorrow, and destroyed the new HQ in Warwick, what do you think most JWs would be saying? "
I'd be more interested in what Ex JWs would be saying . But John Butler got D/fed from here for writing his thoughts. 

In replying to Srecko Sostar's and Anna's observations I would like to add my own direct observations, using everything I know from the modern history I have studied, and things I have carefully watched over my 73 years of travel around the Sun.
I could give hundreds of examples from REAL history and REAL life experiences, but I have done that over a period of time, and have never changed anyone's mind by hard verifiable facts, so I will call upon you to think deeply about your real life knowledge, and real life experiences, and see if you can come up with a different conclusion than the one I have.
1) Jehovah does not interfere in the affairs of mankind in any ways whatsoever, in modern times.  The whole point of our existence is to be an experiment for the entertainment of Jehovah God .... and if you interfere with an experiment ... the results are skewed.
Think of it as the theocratic equivalent of the Heisenberg Principle, that governs quantum mechanics.  As counter-intuitive as it sounds, in the quantum world, if you watch an experiment ... it changes the results.
Same thing.
I have seen Brothers, much better men than I in every way, killed, yet somehow I survive. I have seen 8 million and more Brothers and Sisters pray for the Russian Federation to release our Brothers and return our property in Russia, with ZERO results.
I have seen four Sisters in one car, out in Field Service killed , being t-boned in an intersection.
I thank Jehovah several times a day for my, and my wife's lives, and the circumstances, times, and place that I live.
But without excellent doctors, money, insurance, and a dozen other things, I would have died many years ago.  I see 20/20 now, but I have been blind, twice, and it is ONLY because of money and circumstances, and reasonably competent doctors that I can see.
The list of things I am thankful for is quite large, and I thank Jehovah God for my life, and the opportunity to know how to live a good and wholesome life, with my wife and dogs, and chickens, and an internet connection that I can sit in my computer room, and explore the Universe in detail.
Whether or not I can afford to get my roof fixed ....is entirely up to me.
The fact of the matter is that Jehovah does NOT interfere with the experiment, today.
Not in big things ... not in small things.
There is the old parable of the country Church, where the congregation prayed earnestly and long for God to heal little Johnny's crippled legs ... and God answered those prayers.
NO.
The last time he tweaked the Petri Dish was about 2,000 years ago.
Since the chances of winning the Lottery are about one in 295 million, should I win, I may change my opinions slightly .... but it is still my responsibility to buy a ticket.
 
 

That's what my dog gets when I give him some of my chili..
 
Really the question should be why does Jehovah allow a Kingdom hall in the Philippines to be destroyed including several brothers and sisters with it, and then why does he seemingly provide sand for another kingdom hall to be built?

Most witnesses will tell you that they do not expect divine protection at this time. But when they do experience a life saving situation, they thank Jehovah for it. They will also tell you that they can see Jehovah's blessing in their life and in the life of the organization as a whole, regardless of negative events that are beyond their control. If a tornado came tomorrow, and destroyed the new HQ in Warwick, what do you think most JWs would be saying?

That will give you your answer.

 

I expect all the JWs on here will run and hide in the Closed / Private Group, all in shame of their leaders the GB and the Lawyers that lie on their behalf. I wish there were more JWs on here, to give their honest opinion of the mess the JW Org is in. Surely this is not how God wants to be served ? 

I think buying the high ground is just common sense not guidance from God. After all they would have guidance from people that work in that trade, surveyors, land management workers, drainage workers, etc. Expert advice is needed even for laying foundations as the builder needs to know the types of soil they are digging in etc. We live on high ground and i would never live in a low area liable to flooding, it's just common sense. 
If God was going to guide anything it would be spiritual guidance to have a clean organisation, but no guidance there as can be clearly seen. 

I expect all the JWs on here will run and hide in the Closed / Private Group, all in shame of their leaders the GB and the Lawyers that lie on their behalf. I wish there were more JWs on here, to give their honest opinion of the mess the JW Org is in. Surely this is not how God wants to be served ? 

@Witness  the video is (for me anyway) over the top Americanism unfortunately. BUT what he is saying is true. 
We can see how the first sentence of this report starts off.  1. 
Expert Opinion, Holly Folk, Massimo Introvigne, J. Gordon Melton.
1. We have been requested by the law firm of Mr. Shane Brady, representing the “Christian Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses in the Netherlands”, 
Shane Brady, it seems, is/ was in 2007, an "in house Witnesses lawyer and respected 'Bethelite'. and a senior religious leader.... that defended the blood issue in 2007. 
I can't quite understand how this Mr Brady can be be a full time JW living in Bethel / HQ in USA, and at  the same time be part of this Law Firm below. 
https://wghow.ca/partners-associates.htm 

 
Shane H. Brady, J.D.
Partner

Shane received his law degree from Osgoode Law School (Toronto, Ontario) (later converted to J.D.) and was admitted to the Ontario Bar in 2001. He articled under the tutelage of our eminent founding lawyer, W. Glen How, O.C., Q.C., L.S.M. Few other mentors could have provided the breadth and depth of legal education. Shane has done trial and appellate work in civil, family, constitutional, and criminal law.
Shane has advocated for mature minors' rights to make their own medical treatment decisions. He was the primary lawyer in a case from the provincial trial court to the Supreme Court of Canada, resulting in the seminal decision of the Supreme Court of Canada in AC v Manitoba (Director of Child and Family Services), 2009 SCC 30, [2009] 2 SCR 181.
Currently Shane specializes in international human rights work in the European Court of Human Rights, the Court of Justice of the European Union, and the United Nations Human Rights Committee, representing clients in both European and post-Soviet countries. 
So is he only representing JWs ? 
 So it was this Mr Brady, JW leader, Lawyer, currently specialising in human rights, that hired the EXPERT OPINION report, using a man, Massimo Introvigne  that writes about satanism and From 2008 to 2016 he has served as vice-president of the Catholic movement Alleanza Cattolica
 Massimo Introvigne is also known to :-  
 he advocates doctrinaire positions that favour groups like Scientology.   Sorry the writing is a mess, it's grabbing quote that don't want to fit together.   But, oh dear, the GB and their lawyers seem to have a lot to answer for. I honestly wonder how God and Christ feel about it all. What is Jesus feeling right now, that he actually died for this mess ?             

The JW Org / Watchtower Soc' / GB  are No part of the world ? 
They seem to be digging themselves deeper into the world every day. Obviously NOT guided by God's holy spirit. 
The plot thickens, but they cannot have God's approval at all, on this and many other matters. 
Is Almighty God bringing it all to a head ?
Is Jesus Christ showing the world how wicked the GB and it's Org are ?
Come on JWs lets hear your defence of this one 

Unfortunately we have seen time after time the watchtower can twist, lied and change things as it suits them, so im sure they can make something up..
And remember the watchtower doesn't need to defend themselves if JWs doesn't know about it.... 😆😆😆

@Witness  the video is (for me anyway) over the top Americanism unfortunately. BUT what he is saying is true. 
We can see how the first sentence of this report starts off.  1. 
Expert Opinion, Holly Folk, Massimo Introvigne, J. Gordon Melton.
1. We have been requested by the law firm of Mr. Shane Brady, representing the “Christian Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses in the Netherlands”, 
Shane Brady, it seems, is/ was in 2007, an "in house Witnesses lawyer and respected 'Bethelite'. and a senior religious leader.... that defended the blood issue in 2007. 
I can't quite understand how this Mr Brady can be be a full time JW living in Bethel / HQ in USA, and at  the same time be part of this Law Firm below. 
https://wghow.ca/partners-associates.htm 

 
Shane H. Brady, J.D.
Partner

Shane received his law degree from Osgoode Law School (Toronto, Ontario) (later converted to J.D.) and was admitted to the Ontario Bar in 2001. He articled under the tutelage of our eminent founding lawyer, W. Glen How, O.C., Q.C., L.S.M. Few other mentors could have provided the breadth and depth of legal education. Shane has done trial and appellate work in civil, family, constitutional, and criminal law.
Shane has advocated for mature minors' rights to make their own medical treatment decisions. He was the primary lawyer in a case from the provincial trial court to the Supreme Court of Canada, resulting in the seminal decision of the Supreme Court of Canada in AC v Manitoba (Director of Child and Family Services), 2009 SCC 30, [2009] 2 SCR 181.
Currently Shane specializes in international human rights work in the European Court of Human Rights, the Court of Justice of the European Union, and the United Nations Human Rights Committee, representing clients in both European and post-Soviet countries. 
So is he only representing JWs ? 
 So it was this Mr Brady, JW leader, Lawyer, currently specialising in human rights, that hired the EXPERT OPINION report, using a man, Massimo Introvigne  that writes about satanism and From 2008 to 2016 he has served as vice-president of the Catholic movement Alleanza Cattolica
 Massimo Introvigne is also known to :-  
 he advocates doctrinaire positions that favour groups like Scientology.   Sorry the writing is a mess, it's grabbing quote that don't want to fit together.   But, oh dear, the GB and their lawyers seem to have a lot to answer for. I honestly wonder how God and Christ feel about it all. What is Jesus feeling right now, that he actually died for this mess ?             

@Witness  the video is (for me anyway) over the top Americanism unfortunately. BUT what he is saying is true. 
We can see how the first sentence of this report starts off.  1. 
Expert Opinion, Holly Folk, Massimo Introvigne, J. Gordon Melton.
1. We have been requested by the law firm of Mr. Shane Brady, representing the “Christian Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses in the Netherlands”, 
Shane Brady, it seems, is/ was in 2007, an "in house Witnesses lawyer and respected 'Bethelite'. and a senior religious leader.... that defended the blood issue in 2007. 
I can't quite understand how this Mr Brady can be be a full time JW living in Bethel / HQ in USA, and at  the same time be part of this Law Firm below. 
https://wghow.ca/partners-associates.htm 

 
Shane H. Brady, J.D.
Partner

Shane received his law degree from Osgoode Law School (Toronto, Ontario) (later converted to J.D.) and was admitted to the Ontario Bar in 2001. He articled under the tutelage of our eminent founding lawyer, W. Glen How, O.C., Q.C., L.S.M. Few other mentors could have provided the breadth and depth of legal education. Shane has done trial and appellate work in civil, family, constitutional, and criminal law.
Shane has advocated for mature minors' rights to make their own medical treatment decisions. He was the primary lawyer in a case from the provincial trial court to the Supreme Court of Canada, resulting in the seminal decision of the Supreme Court of Canada in AC v Manitoba (Director of Child and Family Services), 2009 SCC 30, [2009] 2 SCR 181.
Currently Shane specializes in international human rights work in the European Court of Human Rights, the Court of Justice of the European Union, and the United Nations Human Rights Committee, representing clients in both European and post-Soviet countries. 
So is he only representing JWs ? 
 So it was this Mr Brady, JW leader, Lawyer, currently specialising in human rights, that hired the EXPERT OPINION report, using a man, Massimo Introvigne  that writes about satanism and From 2008 to 2016 he has served as vice-president of the Catholic movement Alleanza Cattolica
 Massimo Introvigne is also known to :-  
 he advocates doctrinaire positions that favour groups like Scientology.   Sorry the writing is a mess, it's grabbing quote that don't want to fit together.   But, oh dear, the GB and their lawyers seem to have a lot to answer for. I honestly wonder how God and Christ feel about it all. What is Jesus feeling right now, that he actually died for this mess ?