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They went through the tests after 1914 to 1919 in fulfillment of bible prophecy - also in 2nd world war - and they have done the work Jehovah gave them - they themselves, as well as WE know they are the slave.  As I asked you before - please tell me any other group that is doing the job Jehovah said would be done earth wide... and feeding a united people the same food ..... world-wide .....and if you can show me this group, I may join you.  But you yourself KNOW there is NO other group doing this work as prophesied in  Matthew 24 :14
It depends what these other anointed are doing.  If they do not want to work together due to imperfection.......and want glory for themselves - then they are not the true wheat.  If this other group of wheat are jealous and are working on their own - then they are NOT true wheat and do not know how to cooperate BUT are wheat who became weeds. The true wheat will form one group and stay united.  These other wheat THEMSELVES decided they are anointed and maybe they were NOT - that is why Jehovah rejected them, like Saul. 
So what about Matthew 24:45.......   when was there a slave that could do this work and preach world wide?  Mathew 24:14.... a sign of the last days.  What about the prophecy in Ezekiel which indicates that there will be an administration?
A lot of new brothers and sisters do not know how to preach - so the method they teach us is pretty sound and very good.  I was in publicity most of my life and I think it is pretty good... so that all publishers can have a share.  I DO NOT follow the instructions word by word ...... and I have never been in trouble because of it.  BUT I am sure if you arrogantly preach something that is not in the bible, Jehovah will make sure that it becomes known and you will be corrected.  And if you opt out after being corrected - then I am sure you are too hardnosed to take correction and it is better you do not spread false teachings.  We cannot have a bunch of loose cannons preaching anything they please. There are many who believe they have more spirit than others but this does not mean they do! 
 
My dear you obviously do not know what propaganda is.  They are NOT preaching any misleading political message.  The message that only the kingdom of Jehovah is worthy of our loyalty is accurate according to the bible as is our stance of neutrality. I think you must also not just accuse wildly.....your accusations are all over the place.   

Seeing Witness carry on right here with her flamethrower.

Some news has just come to me about a JW man (whom I would have once called a brother) that I spent a lot of time with, until he was told not to spend time with me. He was in his mid 80's and on lots of meds' for heart problems etc. He has died in hospital. But if the information is correct, he fell down at his home, was unable to get up, and was not discovered for some time. He was 'old', he was ill, and death happens. But if he had still been in contact with me I may have found him much sooner and he may have lived longer. 
I'm not angry, I'm not sad, even with all his health problems, he had a good long life and kept himself happy even after his wife had died a few years before..
What this topic is for is to ask ALL of you. If you know of someone that may be 'fragile' in any way, or may just need comfort, Please visit them. Please help them to feel safe and wanted.
 

I am fragile but not so old.   I will only need attention when I am unable to walk.  Many elderly people go through the same with their children popping in every other day or so.  My children are in other countries due to circumstances - me being a refugee from my own country. 
MY mum's best friend died after she was lying on the floor a whole day with a stroke injury.  This pandemic has made matters worse as people who are not family are supposed to distance themselves.  I would feel mad if it was my friend.... but I would calm down afterward and realize that the person is no longer suffering and is in the long arms of Jehovah. Jehovah's hand will not be short during the resurrection.

Yes - I see that the slave has identified the UN as the image of the beast right after it was created.  It identified the harlot as the world empire of false religion.  It identified 1914 as the beginning of the invisible rule of Jesus Christ.  It identified so many things.
Are you still waiting for a visible christ to come on the clouds down to earth to rule?  Do you know what is the seven heads of the beast?   Who told you that? 
A generation is overlapping and I have demonstrated it here on these pages many times. So do not show old magazines to bring on old discussions.........  I reply with a question back to you...... do you see these things?   And if you see them....... who taught them to you?   
 

What is the problem with fitting something new into an existing entirety / complex that has worked almost "smoothly" until then? 
Instead of analyzing through my own "intellectual exertion" (perhaps on another occasion) I used a biblical quote from the Gospel of Mark.
21 No one sews a piece of unshrunk cloth on an old garment. If he does, the patch  tears away  from  it, the new from the old, and a worse tear is made. 22 And no one puts new wine into old qwineskins. If he does, the wine will burst the skins—and the  wine is destroyed, and so are the skins.  But  new wine  is  for fresh wineskins.”

That us brilliant that you brought it up!  The question is directed at those living in the last days and asks each individual if they  recognize the  slave.  It is a question directed at me and you. I recognize them to give me food at the proper time and I am happy in doing so! . 
If you do not understand - read it again. 
“Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?  46 Happy is that slave if his master on coming finds him doing so!  47 T

This conclusion seems fine to me.
But as often happens, that word appears - but.
At the time of the doctrine popularly called "the 1914 generation", we do not know today which people took part in it and how they led the debates, which of them were for, which were against, and which abstained. We today do not know what motivated these people and whether they were simply mistaken in believing in the wrong idea.
Or were they actually right so that the second / third coming of the Kingdom actually took place within the "generation of 1914", but in a different way than expected and which remained invisible to WTJWorg and JW members?
But let’s get back to a simpler reality. When WTJWorg concluded that “Jesus thought differently” and that "he actually meant" the “overlapping generation,” then it could be said and written in official documents (WT literature):
That the former WTJWorg leadership taught the wrong doctrine because they believed in delusion and misconception. Why they believed in delusion and thought wrongly? Because they didn't know the real truth. We believe in another idea today. If this idea turns out to be wrong in the future, you need to know that we didn’t want to lie to you but that we just sincerely believed we were right this time.
 

Can you see it yet?  Do you realize how responsible the leadership of your organization is, for placing stumbling blocks before God's holy people - Jesus Christ's "kings of the earth"?  Mal 2:8; Rev 1:5; 5:9,10
Prophets who lie are spiritual harlots, because they have broken their covenant with God.  Ps 78:10;  Rev 13:11,12; 17:1-5
 

Here in the United States we have a One Day Circuit Assembly starting on Saturday April 2, and it is also being streamed … starts in about 25 minutes!
…. still have to wear cloth masks, or if viewing on-line, clothing is optional.
I will be wearing my Sunday Best dress collar.

It seems the Kingdom Halls are reopening here this Sunday in the UK ( 3 April 2022)  in time for the Special Talk and the Memorial. 

Correct, Child Maltreatment was a problem even back then. You had NUNS in the 1860s being accused of CSA. It took activists to finally bring the problem of CSA to the world by the media because of "child trafficking."
The Characterization of an institution is influenced by assumptions. The problem of CSA within the Watchtower was limited. However, child maltreatment was a small problem. I think the first recorded was in 1971, and an advisory was given to the Elders on how to investigate those allegations, without stepping in the legal system's toes.
When the Watchtower and Awake are printed, it's meant for everyone, especially it's members. However, as far as I can remember, It was a situation that presented itself, however rare, and it was handled by judicial committees and back then most of the time, by local police.
Now, are you talking about advertising it on a local newspaper? That was left for the District Attorney, and the victim, if they wished to have their story on the front page. You seem to forget, a traumatizing event is not something a victim would like other people to be aware of. But it was left for the Victim to make it public. Back then, the congregations would give out the reason for being disfellowshipped. Now, due to privacy laws, they just mention a person is reproved or disfellowshipped with possibly limited info or none at all. 
This depends on how you view the transgressions. You seem to imply this was something that regularly happened. CSA was uncommon. Child Abuse, maltreatment was. Let's get that finally straight. Therefore, it was categorized as maltreatment of a child. 
However, some governments have had some type of privacy law that limited the amount of information that could be retained, even back then. Now, it's an obligation. However, many governments still deprive the victim by having certain laws remain in place.
However, back then, the victim spoke to the local police, and then they would notify the Elders of the outcome. After, the Elders would continue with their judicial obligation to disfellowship a wrong doer.
The hype comes from ExJWs that insist, people got away with thing within the Watchtower. I would like an honest ExJW come here and tell you people why that person was disfellowshipped. That nonsense about speaking against the Watchtower, is an ExJW excuse. Someone like @Pudgy
 
 
 

This obtuse statement doesn't reflect the warnings the Watchtower has made to the public and the Christian Congregations before governments began to notice the harm that Individuals needed to be aware of and take personal action.
 
*** g75 4/22 p. 17 Does the Solution Lie with Psychiatrists? ***
The general failure of psychiatrists to appreciate God and his teachings on morality has resulted in great harm’s being done. As an example, the Long Island Press carried the front page heading: “Sodomy Ring Smashed. Group charged with sexually abusing youths.” The article said: “Four men—including an internationally known child psychiatrist . . . were arraigned yesterday on sodomy, sexual abuse and conspiracy charges involving adolescents.”

*** w79 2/1 p. 3 Is Faith Old-Fashioned? ***
LOOK AT THE FAMILY
“Only a battlefield or a riot are more violent than the American home.” So said a United Press International dispatch from Washington, D.C., as published in the Rocky Mountain News of Denver, Colorado. The statement was based on a nationwide survey of household violence as presented to a subcommittee of the House of Representatives. “Child abuse, wife and husband beating, sexual assault and sibling violence,” all were described by witnesses at hearings on family violence.
 
*** w83 10/1 p. 27 Help for the Victims of Incest ***
Help for the Victims of Incest
Incestuous child abuse is sexual abuse of children by an older relative. Usually, it is by a male relative—such as a father, stepfather, uncle or older brother. Sometimes, but much more rarely, it is by a female relative. According to the book The Silent Children, incestuous abuse can range from improper fondling to oral-genital contact to intercourse. Of course, affectionate physical contact between children and older people is proper. But when the older person finds these contacts arousing, or when he does things alone with the child that he would not do if the child’s mother were present, this will likely lead to sexual abuse of the child.
 
Therefore, the only ones that are sicked minded are fools that refuse to accept, they have nothing on the Watchtowers, moral compass.
 

All sin = sin.  Lying is the same as reviling and adultery the same as child abuse.....  To Jehovah they are all worthy of death.  In this sense yes, all sin is the same. ... When we add the emotional trauma attached to it - some more egregious than others. 

No, they are opening to read your announcement of why you left, after which they will close again.

DOG, Why do you need to add rubish to a serious topic ? Is it because you feel out of your depth ?  Are you insecure ? 
And then SM chirps in with politics. Oh dear @JW Insider I was beginning to enjoy reading your thoughts here, not that I fully understand it all.  I have no thought of my own on these things, i admit to it all being beyond me. 

Are you then suggesting that Child Sexual Abuse is on the same level as adultery ? 
Are you suggesting a Pedophile should be treated the same as an adulterer ? 
If so then you are 'sick', and I am more than concerned for you. 
Two consenting adults having immoral sex is of course sin, but it is not hurting children. It is also not illegal.
Child Sexual Abuse is far worse, but it seems that you do not think so, neither does your GB or Elders or others in the JW Org.  The GB are only concerned when the 'outside of the dish looks as dirty as the inside of the dish'.  It's all about the false impression, and it seems you agree with them. . 
They were too frightened to tell the truth about my 'departure'. To the point that one Elder told my wife on the phone, that I had been disfellowshipped. Now if he told my wife that, knowing that my wife knew all the facts, then what is that Elder telling everyone else. More lies from a wicked org.
One point here though. The GB are obviously frightened to admit that people DO leave the org of their own choice.  After all it would not be tooooooo hard for them to say that 'John Butler has left the organisation'. 
Lets think about this for a moment. The GB and previous Leaders of the Watchtower / JW Org pretend that they are the Faithful and Discreet Slave, supplying true spiritual food at the PROPER TIME. But you criticise me for pointig out the FACTS that those Leaders have told many lies and given false predictions. 
Here is a little of my basis for The True Anointed. 
Zechariah 8:23 
Berean Study Bible
This is what the LORD of Hosts says: “In those days ten men from the nations of every tongue will tightly grasp the robe of a Jew, saying, ‘Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.’ ”
 Acts 2:17 & 18 
Berean Study Bible
‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out My Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.Even on My menservants and maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.
Now I find that to be quite a good 'hint' from scripture. I'm sorry if you do not have such faith. 
 

Are you then suggesting that Child Sexual Abuse is on the same level as adultery ? 
Are you suggesting a Pedophile should be treated the same as an adulterer ? 
If so then you are 'sick', and I am more than concerned for you. 
Two consenting adults having immoral sex is of course sin, but it is not hurting children. It is also not illegal.
Child Sexual Abuse is far worse, but it seems that you do not think so, neither does your GB or Elders or others in the JW Org.  The GB are only concerned when the 'outside of the dish looks as dirty as the inside of the dish'.  It's all about the false impression, and it seems you agree with them. . 
They were too frightened to tell the truth about my 'departure'. To the point that one Elder told my wife on the phone, that I had been disfellowshipped. Now if he told my wife that, knowing that my wife knew all the facts, then what is that Elder telling everyone else. More lies from a wicked org.
One point here though. The GB are obviously frightened to admit that people DO leave the org of their own choice.  After all it would not be tooooooo hard for them to say that 'John Butler has left the organisation'. 
Lets think about this for a moment. The GB and previous Leaders of the Watchtower / JW Org pretend that they are the Faithful and Discreet Slave, supplying true spiritual food at the PROPER TIME. But you criticise me for pointig out the FACTS that those Leaders have told many lies and given false predictions. 
Here is a little of my basis for The True Anointed. 
Zechariah 8:23 
Berean Study Bible
This is what the LORD of Hosts says: “In those days ten men from the nations of every tongue will tightly grasp the robe of a Jew, saying, ‘Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.’ ”
 Acts 2:17 & 18 
Berean Study Bible
‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out My Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.Even on My menservants and maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.
Now I find that to be quite a good 'hint' from scripture. I'm sorry if you do not have such faith. 
 

Have you met Bill Ding, a major player in the LDC?
I should not have said harshest, for you are one among many. “Shrillist” is the word I was looking for, the one most given to hysteria, overstatement, and over-generalization. I wonder what you would have said about Paul, who told the Corinthians to “forgive” that fellow who had been sleeping with his father’s wife. (2 Corinthians 2:7-9)
“This rebuke given by the majority is sufficient for such a man;  now you should instead kindly forgive and comfort him, so that he may not be overwhelmed by excessive sadness. I therefore exhort you to confirm your love for him.” (2 Corinthians 2:7-9)
After just a brief period of expulsion, he was to be “comforted,” “forgiven,” with “love” for him “confirmed,” having shown himself repentant and  “saddened.” You would have not accepted that, I don’t think, and likely would have had shrill words about Paul covering up sin.
If you were then as you are now, you would have withdrawn in disgust from that first-century congregation. Then, like a Kamikazi pilot upset that the target ship doesn’t erect a memorial to him, you would have cried on and on about how the real reasons for your departure were not publicized to your former spiritual family. Instead, they just accepted your resignation and moved on.
Please believe me. I do not “dislike” you because you are “truthful.”
It also doesn’t help that you condemn the Christian organization for any expectation that did not come on time, yet put complete trust in something not even hinted at in scripture—that a True Anointed will come along at the 11th hour to save the day.

An IP address is a physical address assigned to a specific user. How do you think, governments can trace an address to a specific user, unless you're suggesting you guys are excellent hackers, which would be difficult to accept. 😉
If you are talking about people trying to disrupt their online usage with garbage by spamming or hacking, then, yes! I can see there would be an effort made. That also depends on if the hacks are willful for prosecution. Then, it's a matter of time, when those losers will be caught. Thanks for the tip.
This is incorrect, since a gathering is formed after 2 or 3, which now becomes organized, and the homes of the users now become a building of worship. You need to stop lying to yourself. With me, you will never win, nor convince.

I've also mentioned Rachel Roman, who's letters and cards are being mailed earth-wide to branches, khs and JWs, and also have linked to my name on fb.  Pearl has no brother name "Ortho" that I know of.  She only, was a JW in her family; if you are thinking of a JW named "Ortho Doxsey".    
 
Spiritual food at the proper time.  The scroll of Revelation is opening, Christ has already received and opened the scrolls,, and he shares that information with his "servant"/messenger (Rev 5:5; 1:1); "perfect" has not yet arrived until all written in the scroll, is fulfilled.  1 Cor 13:8-10    Jesus promised "truth" to those "branches" who remain in him. (John 15:5 Unlike the Wt's "new light", which is a backtracking, rejection and complete overhaul of a doctrine - sometimes returning to an old teaching and labeling it "new light"; "truth" is consistent light which only grows brighter with understanding.  It never leaves one in the dark.  

IP ADDRESS! It's laughable if you think they can't be seen. 😁
Then, they think too much of themselves if they believe the WT would waste their time on false prophets, that don't TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT THE TRUTH!!
However, glad you finally admit how they gather. A spiritual gathering is bound by a spiritual congregation, therefore, you form a place of worship which you have criticized the witnesses for many years. Now visitors can finally see the hypocrisy you bring here instead of what @TrueTomHarley describes as truth, which is a bunch of nonsense.
They don't waste their time here either with people misinterpreting scripture for their benefit, while they condemn others for having strong ties with God by remaining faithful and loyal.

Apparently the “True Annointed” do not have a congregation, or names, or addresses.
I asked.
I got nuthin’

Um, maybe you should know that there was a blip in the timing of comments being displayed, hence what i wrote was written before Pudgy's comment appeared. 
This is probably British humour that you Yanks do not understand. If someone does something or says something negative to a British person, we tend to say 'yeh thanks'. 
 
Harshest ????????? That is so funny.  I think it's just that I'm the one you dislike most ............... because I'm truthful. 
As for being dumb. Remember though Columbo always pretended to be dumb  ........

I largely agree. But I think that there is another way to look at the original historical events for MOST historical events found in the scriptures. I look at them like this:
(Romans 15:4, 5) . . .For all the things that were written beforehand were written for our instruction, so that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope. 5 Now may the God who supplies endurance and comfort grant you to have among yourselves the same mental attitude that Christ Jesus had,
(1 Corinthians 10:1-11) . . .Now I want you to know, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud and all passed through the sea 2 and all got baptized into Moses by means of the cloud and of the sea, 3 and all ate the same spiritual food 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they used to drink from the spiritual rock that followed them, and that rock meant the Christ. 5 Nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them, for they were struck down in the wilderness. 6 Now these things became examples for us, in order for us not to desire injurious things, as they desired them. 7 Neither become idolaters, as some of them did; just as it is written: “The people sat down to eat and drink. Then they got up to have a good time.” 8 Neither let us practice sexual immorality, as some of them committed sexual immorality, only to fall, 23,000 of them in one day. 9 Neither let us put Jehovah to the test, as some of them put him to the test, only to perish by the serpents. 10 Neither be murmurers, as some of them murmured, only to perish by the destroyer. 11 Now these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for a warning to us upon whom the ends of the systems of things have come.
In other words, the specifics are not applied to certain classes of Christians any more than they are applied to certain specific rulers or kingdoms. We don't have a Korah, Dathan and Abiram murmuring class who put Moses to the test in a specific way, for example. But we do learn a lesson for our instruction that no one, or no group of people, should put the words of Jesus to the test, or try to usurp, or take away from the authority of Jehovah's arrangement, who put Jesus as head over the congregation. So when Pharoah tried to attack the Israelites going through the sea, we don't need a new fulfillment of "Pharoah" every few decades. We don't need to identify the specific "Pharoah" of the 1st, 2nd . . . 19th, 20th and 21st centuries.
I think this is also true of the King of the North, for example. We have a specific person who Daniel had in mind for the great king whose kingdom was broken up to the four winds. We know that this great king was Alexander the Great. We don't need a new Alexander for each generation of history, or each generation of Jehovah's Witnesses. That's where I can personally see the LESSON of the "King of the North." We can always look at an event of history and say well that was the Pharaoh of this-or-that time period. Or that was the "abomination of desolation" of this-or-that time period.
I'm thinking, therefore, that Jesus wasn't identifying a "new" [Seleucid] king of the north when speaking of the Romans who would surround Jerusalem.
Jews of that generation would already have identified Caligula with Antiochus Epiphanes, for example, when Caligula had ordered the erection of his statue in the Temple at Jerusalem -- something that directly led to the revolution in Judea that resulted in the fulfillment of Jesus prophecy about the surrounding armies. This was all too similar to what Antiochus had done a couple centuries earlier. But this didn't mean that Antiochus was Caligula, only that the lesson was appropriate. There would be nothing wrong with saying that Caligula was being "an Antiochus," but not in the sense that he was the specific fulfillment of a prophecy.
All this makes sense to me up to a point, and I explained it OK. But it doesn't make sense completely, and I think this is where you are already coming from. For example, Paul in Thessalonians was very specific about identifying an end-times "antichrist" using the same terms as found in Daniel. This is part of the argument found here, too:
https://enduringword.com/bible-commentary/daniel-11/