Patiently waiting for Truth

Jehovahs people are very organized in what they do and how they preach…we do not pray for the spirit to lead us to a certain door as some do. We cannot read hearts and must give everyone an opportunity…or a fair go at least of some spiritual food.
When there is a hurricane we do not go out but instead bunker down as the rest of the world does…when their are floods we make preparations to combat those devastating waters..we do not go swimming or surf boarding amongst it…..when there are raging uncontrollable fires we take cover for the duration……when there is a unknown virus circulating the world that nobody seems to know anything about and all reports from so called health experts paint as the plague ….we bunker down and try to not infect or spread this unknown virus and take precautions just as all our neighbors and In fact the world does and did…and take care with our own loved ones just as the rest of the world does.
As you well know we are a organized people and don’t do things like the preaching work in a helter  Skelton  manner..we are 8 1/2 million strong ..a huge people from many cultures and world wide…so hence we need to have a earthly captain at the head of the ship so as not to act in a irresponsible manner in these sorts of conditions …As you well know The GB made that decision and the sake of peace and safety all witnesses followed thru…..why do you ask sereko…have you started going door to door…may I ask who told  YOU to stop..or did you listen to mere men and not follow what in your dear heart was right…..and follow Christ lead in the preaching work..at that and this time …..are you now doing the door to door work.????…and if you are not..may I ask…again….WHO TOLD YOU TO STOP..?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Why would Gog of Magog come against "Jehovah" when in the Bible he SENDS the army onto his people?  
“King of the North” of Daniel 11:31
Gog comes with his army from the “North”. Ezek 38:14,15
The locust swarm that attacks God’s people, come from the “North”  Joel 2:20
They are the same entity, described in different ways, that attack God’s people because they have sinned against Him. Undoubtedly the leadership would rather hide that fact from JWs.  There are so good at cherry-picking scriptures and because of full trust that they expect from JWs, they get away with it.
Therefore prophesy, son of man, and you must say to Gog, ‘Thus says the Lord Yahweh: “Will you not realize (“rouse yourself”) on that day when my people Israel are dwelling in safety, “confidence/trust”,  15 and so you will come from your place, from the remote areas of the north, you and many people with you, horsemen all of them, a great crowd and a vast army, 16 and you will advance against my people Israel like a cloud to cover the land; it will be in the last days, and I will bring you against my land, so that the nations know me, when I show myself holy through you before their eyes, O Gog!”’
God, sends “Gog of/and Magog” against Israel for a reason:
 “And the house of Israel will know that I am Yahweh their God from that day and beyond, 23 and the nations will know that because of their guilt the house of Israel went into exile, because they acted unfaithfully against me, and I hid my face from them, and I gave them into the hand of their foes, and they fell by the sword, all of them. 24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgression I dealt with them, and I hid my face from them.  Ezek 39:22-24
Why apply this account of Gog, if you believe God’s people are innocent? 
So far, Russia has not come against the anointed in full force found all over the world.  Putin is not using any discretion to find and single out the anointed “Israel”. He’s targeting nuclear power plants and Ukrainians.   So, what good is calling Russia the “king of the north” when so far, it is impotent against “Israel”?  What’s the big to do for JWs who are escaping with thousands of others?  It is a serious state of affairs for the Ukrainian and the Russian people.  They suffer today, now; not all of God’s holy people/saints/priesthood, who are the chosen ones!  (1 Pet 2:5,9; Eph 2:20-22)
Gog and Magog, supposedly a coalition of nations, yet still an army also from the north, “surrounds the saints”, and God’s priests today, according to scripture.  (Ezek 38:10,11; Rev 16:13-16; 13:5-7; 20:7-9)  His target is “Israel”.  How will the leaders of a coalition of worldly nations know who the anointed are?  NONE OF YOU JWS HAVE ANSWERED THIS QUESTION YET.
To remind you, this entity – Gog, Magog, King of the North, the locusts of Joel AND Revelation 9, come against God people because of their sins against Him. 
Because a nation has invaded My land,
    strong and beyond counting.
Its teeth are the teeth of a lion,
    and its fangs are those of a lioness. Joel 1:6  (Rev 13:1,2; 9:7,8)
The offering and libation are withheld
    from the Temple of Yahweh.
The priests mourn,
    the ministers of Yahweh.
Gird yourselves and lament, O priests!
    Wail, O ministers of the altar!
Come spend the night in sackcloth,
    O ministers of my God,
because offering and libation
    are withheld from the house of your God.    Joel 1:9,13
They are mourning because they have sinned and are suffering the consequences.  Joel 2:12,13
Dan 9: 27 He will make a firm covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and offering. And the abomination of desolation will be on a wing of the temple until the decreed destruction is poured out on the desolator."
The “man of lawlessness”/northern army puts a stop to the sacrifice and offering of the priesthood.  How? By replacing it, by allowing "Gentiles to “stand” over the priests, ruling over them.
2 Thess 2:3,4 - Do not let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and who exalts himself over every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits down in the temple of God, proclaiming that he himself is God.
To say that the man of lawlessness/northern army does not invade the TEMPLE BELONGING TO GOD, but some other temple that people say is God’s, is an outright lie!  But apparently, that’s what you all believe!  The spiritual temple is defined in the Insight Book, as the anointed priesthood.
Mark 13:14 - "When you see the abomination of desolation standing where it should not be" (let the reader understand), "then those in Judea must flee to the mountains”
Jer 50:8 - “Flee from the midst of Babylon, and go out of the land of the Chaldeans, and be as male goats before the flock.”
So, if in the presence of the locust army from the north, the king of the north, Gog and Magog from the north, man of lawlessness, Wild Beast of the Sea, (all describing the same thing), what are God’s people suppose to do?
And I heard another voice from heaven saying,
“Come out from her, my people,
so that you will not participate in her sins,
and so that you will not receive her plagues,
5 because her sins have reached up to heaven,
and God has remembered her crimes.”  Rev 18:4,5
The Lord is not too weak to save
or his ear too deaf to hear.
2 But your wrongs have separated you from your God,
and your sins have made him hide his face
so that he doesn’t hear you.
3 Your hands are stained with blood,
and your fingers are stained with sin.
You speak lies,
and you mutter wicked things.
4 No one calls for justice,
and no one pleads his case truthfully.
People trust pointless arguments and speak lies.
They conceive trouble and give birth to evil. Isa 59:1-4
Your leaders have developed an internal army “from the north” to come against “Israel”.  They’ve created the elder body over the years –a great “locust army” that can push people around by their given power to judge and disfellowship, sentencing them to a spiritual “death”; (Rev 9:3-6; 13:1,2,11,12) especially the anointed authentic priests of God. (John 16:2; Rev 13:5-7,15; 11:1-3,7)  The organization has led God’s holy priesthood to trust – take confidence in - its lies, and dedicate/identify with it; thus, they have become idolaters. (Rom 1:25; Rev 13:4,10; Col 2:8) Do you not bear the mark of “Jehovah’s organization?” Are you not willing to die on behalf of “Jehovah’s organization”?  This is idolatry.  We are to bear one mark, that of God and His laws, not the laws of an organization and its leaders.  (Deut 6:4-9)  It is interesting that God’s instructions were to be posted on the doorposts of the houses of Israel in Deut 6:9  What is posted on the houses of “Jehovah’s organization”, but men’s doctrine, its changes, its prophetic failures, and its defiance to God’s laws – all symbolized physically by a blue and white sign.
Your leaders have locked the anointed away from Jesus Christ, silencing them, by telling them to OBEY the “uncircumcised” “Gentile” elder body, and not BOND with their Master; but instead, listen and obey a wicked slave – listen and obey the “representatives” of God’s holy priesthood and Temple of God.  (Ezek 44:6-9; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17)  Matt 24:48-51
(Oh my, that must be the underlying basis for the song)
This wicked slave comprises the false prophets of “Babylon”. (Jer 23:21,22; 27:9)  What happened to Babylon in Jeremiah’s day?  Just as the scriptures tell us,
For look, I am going to stir up,
    and I am going to bring against Babylon
a contingent of great nations
    from the land of the north.
And they will draw up a battle formation against her,
    from there she will be captured.
Their arrows are like a warrior who has achieved success,
    he does not return without success. Jer 50:9
What “Gentile” army will turn on “Babylon”, the GB/Heads/harlots of the organization? (Hos 9:1; Ps 106:39; Isa 1:21; Rev 17: 1-6) The elder body/locust army/king of the north, Beast from the Sea along with a symbolic “ten kings”, anointed but not yet sealed by God. Yes, the elder body and anointed joining them, will disfellowship, toss out, depose, strip the harlots of all authoritative identity - the wicked leaders of “Israel” who have left their covenant with God and Jesus Christ.  (Isa 22:15-19; Jer 4:30; Rev 17:15-18) 
The war is internal, not external. There is no deceit to be discovered with Russia and the Ukraine, in relationship to “Israel”, except that the anointed and JWs have their eyes focused on the world, anxiously waiting for it to bring about the Kingdom of God.  They  are IGNORING Jesus’ words:
Asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He replied to them by saying, The kingdom of God does not come with signs to be observed or with visible display, Nor will people say, Look! Here [it is]! or, See, [it is] there! For behold, the kingdom of God is within you [in your hearts] and among you [surrounding you]. Luke 17:20,21
  Everyone who believes in the Bible, is looking for the fulfilment of scripture, by turning to the world of war and politics.  Where is the deceit to be found there, that Satan uses against “Israel”? Someone said, the most deceitful thing that Satan can do, is to convince God’s holy people that they are worshipping God “in truth”, when instead they are flooded by his lies and worship an idol.  (Isa 28:14-19)
 2 Thess 2:9-12
Daniel 11:31-45
 
 
 

And so the politics goes on. Have fun with it you lot 

...all I have to say is that being able to block some posters is like having someone run ahead of you on a walk or a run and bag up all the garbage before you get there.

Yes indeed. It's always interesting when Jehovah's Witnesses and former Jehovah's Witnesses find it a need to hate one person. Never mind the foolishness. Not the kind of unity Jesus spoke of, but nevertheless, in unison. 😁

When people here begin to get the prophecy of the king of the north and the king of the south correct without speculation, and fully understand the mechanisms set in place within, then it will be an interest for prophecy, not before. Right now, you people are behaving no different from those foolish witnesses back in the 70s. Yes, the stakes have been moved up, but only those given the privilege to read the signs will give the warning, NOT simpletons like you here.
NIV Rom 12:6-8
6 We have different gifts, according to the grace given us. If a man's gift is prophesying, let him use it in proportion to his faith. 7 If it is serving, let him serve; if it is teaching, let him teach; 8 if it is encouraging, let him encourage; if it is contributing to the needs of others, let him give generously; if it is leadership, let him govern diligently; if it is showing mercy, let him do it cheerfully.
For now, that's all you people are, a bunch of SPECULATORS!!
NIV 2 Cor 10:3-6
3 For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. 4 The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. 5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. 6 And we will be ready to punish every act of disobedience, once your obedience is complete.
It wouldn't hurt either if you people learned scripture. That would go a long way.
NIV Acts 26:1-3
26 Then Agrippa said to Paul, "You have permission to speak for yourself." So Paul motioned with his hand and began his defense: 2 "King Agrippa, I consider myself fortunate to stand before you today as I make my defense against all the accusations of the Jews, 3 and especially so because you are well acquainted with all the Jewish customs and controversies. Therefore, I beg you to listen to me patiently.

There is no American Thinking. If a bomb lands on your doorstep, you associate that with American thinking? Clearly not. As is with Dmitar, you yourself buy Bread, and eat it too.
Eating and or buying Bread does not make you part of the Globalist Monopoly, which is interconnected with various branches of the government.
Yes, but there are the ones who will stand with the Christ at Zion. The sheep, are the Christians who will take up the earth God has made, hence new creation. If everyone is chosen, the earth will not be associated with God's promise concerning what is to come.
The Chosen and the Christians are of the same house though, the spiritual house.
Hence the remark, now you spin a contradiction. As is prior to JWs even existing, there were chosen ones. Acts 2 is as clear as day (33 A.D.).
Perhaps Digitally, but not Physically. This is liken to your choice of Realism also.
News is propaganda. However a legitimate threat calls to question some verses in Proverbs of which one must apply. I am 100% sure if UK sounds the AIR-RAID, you would move before the panic, or perhaps get stuck in the panic, since Bojo was among the many who pushed SWIFT sanctions and is among the leaders who angers the second group under the UN banner.
As stated before if a Lion or a Serial Killer is in your neighborhood, there is no doubt you will examine the situation and plan an exit.
Likewise, Romans surrounding Jerusalem, a similar case, so to speak.
1. The situation of Ukraine has nothing to do with GB or JWs.
2. No one is taking a political side. If you want to speak about taking sides, one can recall you quickly being fooled by media in some instances where you drew question, i.e. the time you asked who Qanon was, clearly you have no political backing, but was concerned.
As far as I can see, no one, not even you, shown to favor the paradigm, however, some of you, have been tricked by MSM.
That being said, God's people do not dwell on politics, however, when those of politics do take action, it can cause an indirect action, therefore, God's people act.
Hence the Proverb - The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty.
By their works, but a Christian to be devoid of concern will end up like those in 2016.
Babylon has made several moves, so did the Wild Beast, if you are unaware, you are just as much of a victim here, and you would not know your works will be associated with them, hence the Alt-Right article which, if I remember, fooled some, even you, for if that can get you, you would most likely be swayed by the Beast or the Harlot.
That being said, Ukraine and Russia is corrupt, as is their puppet gov't, and their actions will effect people who are not involved - even you, that is, if Bojo continues to run his remarks to anger those who could easily take action on the UK. Ukrainian politicians are putting Boris to task, which will effect you, since your country is not only part of NATO, but also in the EU, as is the proponent to the events surrounding SWIFT.
That said, misleading information is a problem also, ironic how Witness reacts to you since she attest to misinformation. But unfortunately such false info is boosting corrupt morale for the paradigm which will harm people who do not want to get involved.

That's a separate issue. My question to you was, do you believe the Watchtower GB, are the ONLY anointed?
 
How so. Doesn't every anointed meet together in Kingdom halls in spiritual unity?
Shouldn't that be a decision God should make? 
This would be the task of the 7 faith men (FDS). God is guiding his faithful church of Christ, not men, as you and all former Jehovah's Witnesses imply. Reference, Ecclesiastes 3:1
Wrong assumption. That's your opinion on who Jehovah's Witnesses serve. The other don't insult me by putting me in the same class as these Jehovah's Witnesses here. These witnesses here as self-serving, no different from former Jehovah’s Witnesses.

JW snobbery at it's best. But this 'club' is supposed to be about God / religion / spiritual matters. 
Though of course JWs are sooooooooooo brainwashed as to believe that only JWs know anything about YHWH and Yeshua.  
But hey, stay in your closset with your JW secrets, it's the best place for you. 

The GB are the ones that say only they are the Faithful and Discreet slave.
And the GB say that YHWH and Yeshua trust the GB.  
The GB also strictly advise all other Anointed ones NOT TO MEET TOGETHER. 

This 'thread' and in fact this forum in dominated by Amercian thinking. 
Revelation states that Yeshua made it possible for people of ALL nations to be Chosen. 
The GB don't want that, and the GB have told those other Anointed not to meet together. 
Surely as world events unfold then ALL of the Anointed Remnant should be in contact with each other.
Rather than rely on 'worldly' news, surely the Anointed remnant shoud be guiding God's people. 
But you people are more interested in two things. 1. Serving the GB and it's Org. 2. Being involved with this political world. 
Indeed, By their works one will know them. 

The GB are the ones that say only they are the Faithful and Discreet slave.
And the GB say that YHWH and Yeshua trust the GB.  
The GB also strictly advise all other Anointed ones NOT TO MEET TOGETHER. 

It's just my personal opinion, but discussion can help a Christian be informed. A person might think that in order to be neutral, it would mean that we should state that the policies of India in 1948, or Peru in 1943, were just as good or bad as the policies of Hitler's Germany in 1941. Neutrality does not mean we remain so uninformed that we can't tell the difference, or that we can't distinguish good from bad, or bad from worse, or mediocre from less mediocre.
Jesus called Herod "that fox." Is it really wrong for a Christian to discuss why Jesus might have called him that?
In Acts, Luke discusses political corruption, a possible bribe that Felix was looking for, and a political motive for some of his actions:
(Acts 24:24-27) . . .Some days later Felix came with Dru·silʹla his wife, who was Jewish, and he sent for Paul and listened to him speak about the belief in Christ Jesus. 25 But as Paul talked about righteousness and self-control and the judgment to come, Felix became frightened and answered: “Go away for now, but when I have an opportunity I will send for you again.” 26 At the same time he was hoping that Paul would give him money. For that reason, he sent for him even more frequently and conversed with him. 27 But when two years had elapsed, Felix was succeeded by Porcius Festus; and because Felix desired to gain favor with the Jews, he left Paul in custody.
Was Luke being non-neutral in exposing some political motives and corruption?
Someone could argue, that all of those examples are history, or that the examples had a direct effect on God's people. But then again, what happened last week, even yesterday, is also history. And Jehovah's people are still being effected by world events.

*** w21 May p. 7 par. 19 Will You Stumble Because of Jesus? ***
19 Do we see the same problem today? Yes. Many today are stumbled because of our neutral stand with regard to politics. They expect us to vote in elections. However, we realize that from Jehovah’s standpoint, if we choose a human leader to rule over us, we are rejecting Him. (1 Sam. 8:4-7) People may also feel that we should build schools and hospitals as well as perform other charitable works. They are stumbled because we focus our efforts on the preaching work, not on solving the world’s immediate problems.
 
As you can see, those calling themselves Jehovah's Witnesses here run their own agenda. It has nothing to do with the Watchtower and the word of God. Even if they debated such things in the JW closed club, it amounts to the same thing. So, it doesn't matter if the club is open or closed, real Jehovah’s Witnesses listen to the inspired word of God. Every Christian should, regardless of denomination.
Christians of every age had better be careful, because it's an easy slip from authentic Christian zeal to the Inquisition. When the word Christian is used to promote a politics of polarization, that should alarm us. When the word Christian is used to emphasize a political ideology rather than authentic spirituality, that should alarm us. When the word Christian is used to advance a particular brand of politics, that should alarm us. When the word Christian is used to champion dogmatism and intolerance, that should alarm us. by Craig A. Localzo 2000

JW snobbery at it's best. But this 'club' is supposed to be about God / religion / spiritual matters. 
Though of course JWs are sooooooooooo brainwashed as to believe that only JWs know anything about YHWH and Yeshua.  
But hey, stay in your closset with your JW secrets, it's the best place for you. 

JW snobbery at it's best. But this 'club' is supposed to be about God / religion / spiritual matters. 
Though of course JWs are sooooooooooo brainwashed as to believe that only JWs know anything about YHWH and Yeshua.  
But hey, stay in your closset with your JW secrets, it's the best place for you. 

The open JW club is not really a JW page. The JW page is in the closed club. 

1, Secular crimes ? Well American law is different to UK law of course.  I would say in UK law the GB are guilty of Aiding and Abeting Pedophilia in the JW Org, and Aiding and Abeting the victimization of CSA victims. Withholding information from the Legal Authorities... et al. It might be possible to add things such as deliberately making 'rules' through the Watchtower and JW Org which deliberately caused the bullying of congregants to the point of causing distress, and causing immorality to be easy to commit within theJW org.  I would think there could be a lot of criminal offences that have been commited by the GB. 
2. I didn't say Yeshua WAS NOT HUMAN. I said YHWH and Yeshua ARE not men because they ARE not human . 
Can you understand past tense from present tense ? 
3,  The GB hold power by pretending that only they, those 8 men, are the Faithful and Discreet slave.
Then the GB push this at the congregation by pretending that YHWH and Yeshua 'trust them' so then demanding that all the congregants trust the GB. 
Then the GB issue rules to the Elders to disfellowship anyone that questions the GB's rules or teachings, using the poor excuse of 'causing a division in the congregation'. Because the congregants are frightened of being d/fed the congregants are then fully under the power of the wicked GB. 
BUT YOU KNOW ALL THIS ALREADY DIMMY. 
 
 

I see patiently sitting on his hands has gone Jewish

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AMP James 1:22
22 But be doers of the Word [obey the message], and not merely listeners to it, betraying yourselves [into deception by reasoning contrary to the Truth].
 

He is very orderly that way. He’d make a good librarian. (that old hen)

I would like to thank @JW Insider for trying to keep it on topic, but the rest of you, well just no hope at all.
 
 

I wasn’t thinking about you at all when I made that remark. I meant only that I try not to argue or insult others.
Okay, okay, so you’ve got me there. Nobody has infinite patience. But even then it is only with the “dodo” word.

dodo was probably the word you finally settled for but I'm sure there were others prior to that.