Patiently waiting for Truth

1. The church = temple, was the Anointed ones, and still is. 
2. What does the Temple in Jerusalem have to do with the Kingdom Halls of JW's ? 
3. Religion is just a word. Most 'religions' are used as excuses to do wrong things. Even JWs have used religion as an excuse to do bad things, including Child Sexual Abuse. Some Elders have used their 'religious authority' to do some wicked deeds. 
Next .................

Hence I left that JW Org. To be away from those immoral persons before my Christian conscience was ruined by the immorality of that organisation. 
We can clearly see how the consciences of JWs have been ruined or dulled, because they put up with the immorality, or actually support the immorality by supporting the GB and it's man made rules.  

I can go either way with this comment. However, let God be the judge. Christ was persecuted for many reasons. Loyalty to God was a major factor. You have the will, now understand his sacrifice. Imagine it in your heart. Feel the value of those receiving God's Holy Spirit and Fight for the just, not the injustice you claim in your mind. Release your innermost ambitions and Serve God to the fullest, our lord's way.
As a Christian, I wish no ill will toward anyone. I harbor hope. I to fight for justice through bible standards. A standard I would love people here would really claim by its understanding as Christians. The light deems, every time scripture is butchered for self-worth. People here really need to get past the negativity for the visitors. 
It's not a personal indictment, but a personal appeal. 

Truthers are not of the paradigm, we don't dwell on conspiracy, however, evidence of you dwelling on such does exist on this forum. Many, many examples, too many to count outside of the usual mixing of verses and butchering of Strong's. If you had to be compared to someone, you are similar to Lisa Haven, a Mainstream Christian who has wild conspiracies in mind. 
You can't even be consistent with your own truth...
That being said, bold claim, but sadly, you do not have evidence of such, as what is stated in regards to someone such as myself who is against the paradigm and agendas, ironically, if we Truthers were conspiracy theorists, what I said about Russia would not be a true real world case today - funny how that works.
The problem is not about knowing everything, it is about the facts. Illusions are dishonorable and last time you were corrected on culture, for the culture has very damning things to say about illusions, even in wording.
That being said, you do not understand your own folly. You even ignored it after claiming the subject matter is serious.
Your video sells a different story to the facts, and the facts of which can be seen in the Kings County Reports.
The reports of which you linked are no illusion, for the facts are there. Likewise with the information on Zalkin and Kaplan concerning child abuse.
The issue with you is you expect us to 100% believe what is seen in the video vs the reports of which you didn't read, which now calls you into question for your San Diego remarks in regards to Zalkin.
For, if you did take this seriously, the reports holding the facts concerning abuse among JWs should be your focus. Stop relying on videos and start reading, if I can take this seriously, as is the an abuse survivor whom I will quote below, you can do the same.
 
 
 

Someday, all of your conspiracy theories are going to get the best of you.  
We're done.  I don't think I've ever met a man who creates illusions so well, and believes he knows everything about everyone.  
 

"An honest witness tells the truth
but a false witness tells lies."  Prov 12:17
 
 

Good, Now let others believe the way they want to believe, and stop degrading an institution that you are no longer part of. You claim to be a Christian, then act like one. Right now, you disparage members that your behavior is committed to by your own actions. That means, by your right of believing, you are no matter than the people you disparage.
Then you misapply scripture to meet your argument. Yet, you descend on the elite of faithful members for doing the same thing you are doing, by your right to believe. 
Play the devil's advocate, and figure out what side you're in.

Me?  You've got to be kidding me.  I don't even vote.  But, I do believe the Wt. has political connections, which is my right to believe.
After reading over your initial post about this, it appears that you pulled up a red herring to detract from the grave seriousness of the post; is it because the GB is involved?  For a “truther” you made presumptuous accusations that were all false, groundless. Do you see how you took the actions of two individuals claiming to be JWs that quoted (?) from both the Wt. and my posts on reddit, (?) and accused me of supporting them?  Since when would a JW, unless they are waking up, support both Wt doctrine and my posts, that expose their lies?  
I think you’ve got the picture now, and I don’t expect an apology, but what you’ve basically created is nonsense, and accused me of being connected to an abuser, condoning that person’s actions, as well as being active in politics. 
You had said, "You should be blaming Pearl's followers because they are not mentally sound when they debated me."
Too bad you didn’t get their names!  Perhaps among all the thousands of individuals who anonymously read her posts, we may have recognized one!  What nonsense.  She doesn't keep a record of the names of individuals as the Watchtower does.  
You have done exactly what you always accuse others of doing, not getting the facts straight. I am sorry you had the run-in with those individuals, but there are bigger to fish to fry, which the summons I posted, reveals.
 

Whether there is one or eight of them, they are all false prophets.  Each of them has told lies.
(a lie is a doctrine that didn't come true, a prediction that failed, a teaching that never comes to fruition, a teaching that has twisted Christ's words to fit the doctrine of men... for those who struggle with distinguising a lie from truth)
They have even contradicted each other with their teachings just lately.  Each one of their predecessors has told lies. That is the side you’ve chosen, the side of lies.  (Joel 3:14; Rev 16:13-16) They refuse to recognize the “Elijah” to come, avoiding Matt 17:11 like the plague. And since they no longer designate JWs as a “class” (Jonadab,Ezekiel…), they cannot claim to be the messenger of Mal 3:1. They teach that the meaning of the scrolls in Revelation are not to be revealed until Armageddon is finished; in other words, these demonically inspired men, would never be gifted with reading the scrolls.  (Isa 29:9-16)  This is why Elijah comes, given the understanding of Revelation, which is imperative for God’s holy priesthood to listen to. (Rev 10:11; 18:4-8 )This messenger reveals the identity of the man of lawlessness who tramples the Temple of God, and why it needs to be restored.  (Mal 4:5,6; Rev 11:1-3; 13:5-7,18;2 Thess 2:3,4)
It is not unlike the Father to choose one person to deliver His message to His people, is it, and usually that prophet chosen and his message is rejected by the majority.   Do you believe that Wt’s sins are out of reach of even God?  Has He changed to the point where He will let your unrepentant leaders slide by and be with His Son in the Kingdom, while His own “house” made of “living stones” lies in ruins?  (Dan 8:10,13; 9:27; 11:31,36; Matt 24:15,16; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22) What is the latest about God’s Temple priesthood?  Are they now ALLOWED to meet together and study the Bible?  Is there new light on that?  No. That “coalition” of anointed ones would be a threat to the eight men who rule over you, since their Head would certainly be Jesus Christ, and not the eight liars.  Recently, did you notice how S. Herd said that Christ is the head of your organization, in a tone that dropped several octaves, to the point where it was barely audible?  It seems pretty obvious that he doesn’t believe it himself. 
I read this quote earlier today that applies to the eight:
“We know they are lying, they also know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we also know they know we know, and yet they continue to lie”.  (Solzhenitsyn)
False prophets don’t wear a label that says, “I am a false prophet”.  This is why Jesus said to test their teachings. He gave us instructions to do so, it’s up to each JW to put it into practice.  (Matt 7:15-20; John 15:1-8,16) And he specifically said that the "elect" would be deceived by them in the last days.  (Matt 24:24,25)   The eight know who Pearl is and what she teaches…about them. Interestingly, they have used phrases from her articles and teach them to you.  How dare they, right?  Why would they use the teachings of not only a woman, but of a "despicable apostate"?
The question to ask is what God do you worship anyway? The exacting God who demands exclusive devotion? Sadly, I don’t think so, Tom.  (Mark 12:30) It appears to be the Watchtower organization which allows its leaders to do exactly what they want.  (Dan 11:38; Rom 1:25; Rev 13:4)
 
 
 
 
 
 

I too have a role, and it is an important one given me by God:
to update Paul’s words from Romans 3:4: “every man is a liar” to “every man online is a liar.”
 

This says it all. 
At least the ones taking the lead among JWs are not a single person.
Nor can I imagine it being said of any individual among them, ‘Tony has an important role—one given to him by God.’

Which of you whose servant comes in from plowing or shepherding in the field will say to him, ‘Come at once and sit down to eat’?  Instead, won’t he tell him, ‘Prepare my meal and dress yourself to serve me while I eat and drink; and afterward you may eat and drink’?  Does he thank the servant because he did what he was told?  So you also, when you have done everything commanded of you, should say, ‘We are unworthy servants; we have only done our duty.’ ”  Luke 17:7-10
Does the GB believe they are “unworthy servants” of Christ?  No. Not at all!  Before Christ has made the call, they have announced that they will be reigning with him in the Kingdom. (Matt 25:21)  Eight arrogant men have decided that they are worthy to receive eternal life.  Are they “following” in the footsteps of Christ, or are they creating their own “way” to heaven?
Then Jesus called the crowd and his disciples to him. “If any of you want to come with me,” he told them, “you must forget yourself, carry your cross, and follow me.”  Mark 8:34  GNT
The uninspired GB members who decided to name themselves the "faithful and discreet slave",  do not allow anyone to forget them, especially themselves.  
But we are acting against Jehovah’s purpose if we do not obey the faithful and discreet slave or if we choose to obey only what we think is important.  w 11 7/15
Do you ever contradict what the GB tells you?  Do you ever question their direction?  And if so, do you consider it as "acting against Jehovah's purpose"?  I think every here has questioned their direction, which means that every JW here, is "acting against Jehovah's purpose".
Does anyone here, believe that?  Yes, they are self-assuming, arrogant men who have laid out their salvation before being judged by Jesus Christ.
 
 
 

I am not Christ Disciple, nor am I Christdisciple on reddit.  I am "christsdisciple".  You don't seem to get it.  And I post links to Pearl's website there, just as I do here.  And I'm not the only one.
I was coined even though they could not say my name correctly?  
You are man who expects details, evidence, on everything.  So give me the details.  Find out the name of the woman and find out the real name of DoC - Christ Disciple.  If they addressed Pearl's information, tell me why the interest.  Who are the false JWs?  If you believe that I have labeled myself as DoC, show me proof.  
Verify your accusations.  That's what you would expect from anyone else.  
You can find my real name here:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/restorationofjacob
Ok, this throws a totally different light on what you've been saying.  It's as if you are backtracking now, which is fine, and I realize as well as Pearl does, that there are many individuals who are not authentic.  They come and go, they cause trouble, they slander, and then leave.  They seem sincere at first, but turn out to be the "insincere" ones.  I can't tell from what you are saying whether the individuals that you ran into were giving false information about Pearl or not.  But, it wouldn't be the first time.
Allen, for the second, possibly the third time, there are no donations collected at https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/
Yes, if you go back to early blogs, around 2010-12, she was still considered a JW.  This is just a guess, but I think she was disfellowshipped in 2012, around the time of the Memorial.  
The people are a group who may post another's blog or website, but my website does not have members.  
 

When you denounced that your 4Woman group does get funding by donations. If you want to take it back, I have no quarrels,
When bloggers come together and support each other by their blogs and anything else, YOUR A GROUP!! Don't change the definition just because you want to keep that oneness.

I am "christsdisciple" not DoC whoever that is.  WE ARE NOT THE SAME.  As "christsdisciple" on reddit, I have nothing to hide.  I am not involved in any accusations that you have made.  I am 66 years old, a housewife who took care of her terminally ill husband 24 hours a day, who eventually passed away.  Whatever you think I have been involved in with the government or other accusations you have up your sleeve, are false.
Who did, and who are YOU on reddit?
What's wrong with being a reddit user?  No one asked me here before if I am a reddit user.  I would have gladly told them that I am.
You ask a lot of questions.  I don't have answer if I don't care to. You are not someone that I need to obey.  I presented the information in two formats for anyone to choose.  This is a sensitive topic for those who have suffered abuse, and I am one of them.
No.  Access to the court case has been available.  Read it if you care to. 
 

How am I wrong if you admit this is you when you stated I was lying in the first place? DoC is you, thanks for confirming.
Also...
I never mentioned this, only the reddit profile. You jumped when you should have dived.
They mentioned you as a source on reddit in a challenged towards me. I didn't ask about your life history. These followers of Pearl were being nefarious in a crisis and coined used reddit as a source.
How did I lie if you just confirmed it yourself?

Anyways, address the question concerning the court case. You already exposed yourself as DoC on reddit so that case is closed.
 
EDIT:
2022 is not going to be a good year at all, mainly with what I stated from 2018 to now being true. In regards to CSA, I am reminding you this that the system is being loose with child abusers and or pedophiles as a whole, some of my own rivals even question those who view pedophilia as a normal thing when it is done. Some of these abusers are also being let out back into the streets with a high potential of them going after children, one of which I aided in stopping, for I mentioned him, and suddenly he was back briefly on media prior to him changing his name. Therefore, with such a situation I see it with total seriousness, at least respect such by doing the same. I know you won't answer the question even though you are the one to address the link in the thread, so going forward, any inconstancies on your part, can be used against you once the article is read to conclusion, you've been forewarned.
That being said, there is no need to response to my response because
[A] you exposed yourself as the reddit user and [B] usually when you are asked something you never answer.
I'll do what you cannot burden yourself to do yourself.

It makes sense to claim so. But every form of worship of God is subject to change due to time and circumstances. Reading the Bible, we notice such changes and are ready to accept them as if they came from God. So we could agree that today’s form of Christianity should not be a copy of that of the first century. Because, I think, that is not even possible. 
 

Short answer: a lie? Not quite - https://www.reddit.com/user/christsdisciple/
Long answer: I made the connection after coming back from Washington via pondering. The 2 alleged JWs I ran into prior to the school shooting situation in Michigan and the devastation in Kentucky. They were not really JWs although they had publications of JWs. Their information be it the Bible, marriage and politics kept stemming back to reddit, DoC (Disciple of Christ or Christsdisciple) is among several sources they used in order to counter questions in the 10-15 min encounter.
Christsdiscple have nearly the same, be it, identical posting mannerism as you do and often goes back and forth between two camps (JW and ExJW reddit) to speak about the Watchtower and the GB, even when corrected, what was done there is the same here.
Therefore it isn't a lie when several things said mirrors that of some of the posts you made here, mainly with mentions and links to Pearl, etc.
So in reality, it isn't a lie as you claim (there is a reason as to WHY I brought it up), as is the 2 so called JWs causing trouble that the worse of time to stir trouble; hence the Conservatives in that county went after them in regards to their views after I left.
Didn't think friends of Pearl would be up to some nefarious things when an area is in suffering, and the neighboring area suffering from a school shooting. Not cool.
 
You have been the only one linking to and using reddit and biblegateway. You solely pick up anything from the /exjw reddit and bring it here at times. Therefore, you are savvy in a sense on where to get your sources, this isn't the first time.
A good chuck of your comments sourced reddit, so you are savvy in this sense on where to draw up your information outside of Pearl.
Actually there are, that is why I mentioned Smurf Girl last year and how some EXJWs even challenged their own on the matter, the source in question which you professed as a truth. Some are also fed up with Pearl in which you gave a response which mirrors some of your posts and threads here.
For not agreeing with Smurf Girl or Fearon? Last I checked the JW churches down have weapons bunkers, you were asked over a dozen times and each time you remain silent or divert.
Enough of the diversions, DoC. I asked you a legitimate question concerning Child Abuse pertaining to the Reports of which you linked/started the thread about.
So I address is again in red, so you can see.
 
Again, I ask in seriousness, respect that. I didn't come back for bread and circus deviations after what I experienced. Your friends didn't do much of anything to help better the situation.
Again - 1 question, answer it since it is related to the OP.
 

The explanation is simple. The people who led the people (spiritual leaders) set the standards of worship and declared it true. The same thing happens in today’s religions. WTJWorg is a close example to us. 
So all religious followers will explain to you better than I do why their worship is the only right one.  
The answer is given. 

If the claim of biblical scholars, both those inside the WTJWorg and those outside, is correct, Judaism and Christianity are unique in the kind of worship that is monotheistic. Both acknowledge YHVH as the Father, and consequently the Messiah as the Savior who comes from that Father. Both institutions are considered to be the bearers of the one true worship of the one true God. in the eyes of WTJWorg it is the same Organization of God because one came from the other. I think JW members will confirm that to you, and you are among them, right?
In some of Jesus' statements, he affirmed that one should do as the religious leaders of Israel say, but not imitate them in their deeds. If we take Jesus' words literally, then we could conclude that the Pharisees and other religious factions in the 1st century knew what "true worship" was and that they possessed it institutionally.
"Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2 “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach." -Matt 23
Here, Jesus teaches the people to follow the theological teachings of the Pharisees. So the Pharisees knew what true worship was?

WHAT IS DoC?  Is that an individual you are saying is me?  I'm sorry, but again you are telling a self-assuming lie.  
Savvy? I just looked up the updated membership of exjw reddit - 71,000.  If you don’t believe that among that many individuals, that there are no valid concerns regarding the organization for me to share, then you are truly a pompous, self-righteous man.

So, to you, Judaism is the same as Christianity. Therefore, you believe the Pharisees had true worship. Then what was the purpose of Christ sacrifice to you? Why did true worshipers of God find it a need to kill Jesus?

I do not understand. Was Judaism from the time of the ancient patriarchs and the nation of Israel in the time of Moses a true worship? ...... or is it just an exclusive right of Jesus-type Christianity?
"True worship" should not be divided or attributed by the name of the religion (individual/s, organization) and the historical time of the event and existence of a particular religion, or perhaps it should?  
 
And this sounds a bit like the "world started" with the USA and with JW's in this country. I hope it doesn’t end with the USA (Apologies to the citizens of this country if they think this offends them). The example of Cyrus the Great has just been cited that it would not be considered that religious freedom could only have arisen in a country that emerged from 1776 CE. For it could then be argued that not a single true worshiper of God inside one organized religion could have appeared anywhere else in the world but only in an American-type democracy.  
The historical moment when this happened shows that WTJWorg lawyers were dealing with that kind of issue at the time. Today, WTJWorg lawyers have to deal with CSA scandals (tragedies) that happen in the organization. Unfortunately, JW lawyers and JW representatives who come to court are increasingly bringing up untruths and deceptions to defend WTJWorg. Those former JW attorneys had different concerns. The role of WTJWorg's  Legal Department is changing in the USA and other Western countries. What are they defending in the courts? Religious freedom? Truth? Or Company?
 

Yeah, we don’t live in those centuries, do we? We live in the century where authoritarian governments would severely restrict faith and religion. And were it not largely for the coordinated actions of Jehovah’s Witnesses, dominant mainline churches would have snuffed out diverse religious belief in America during the first half of the 20th century.. Dmitar makes a good point.

I can't believe my eyes that a man of your caliber wrote this absurdity.  
quote: Cyrus II of Persia, commonly known as Cyrus the Great, is mentioned as one of those historical figures who allowed different religions to exist in his empire. The Edict of Cyrus is a 539 BCE proclamation by Achaemenid Empire founder Cyrus the Great attested by a cylinder seal of the time. Although the Cyrus Cylinder does not refer directly to the Israelites exiled by Nebuchadnezzar, the edict is mentioned in the Hebrew Bible as authorizing and encouraging their return to the land of Israel and the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem.
Freedom of faith and religion is an achievement which existed in some ancient civilizations and is not a novelty of the 20th century. And it is certainly not a merit of WTJWorg.