Patiently waiting for Truth

I was also thinking, How many overlapping generations will it need to get to 2055 ?  

It is so obvious. Rambo is attention seeking. so he starts his 'doom and gloom' again but with a different year now. 
Reminds me of a song. "In the year 2525"
Um, actually half of them are still in the JW org.  And the Elders 'spiritually murder' people. 
All JWs worship the idol JW Org and the 8 men that lead it. 
Sexually immoral. Yes pedophile Elders and MS and some congregants too.  Adultery is common in English congregations. 
As for lying, the GB and their Lawyers are good at that.
So, get rid of all of them and how many people will be left  
 

Of course. But because of our mutual disagreement, I will not stop greeting you if we meet on the street.
 If my participation with just one article can refute your claim I will be glad. :)) 
Vatican issues Vademecum: procedures regarding cases of sexual abuse of minors
Srecko Sostar posted a topic in Catholicism's Topics
Normally. So who would be smart to believe, to put faith in any nonsense from WTJWorg?
An emoticon tagging system is something you use in abundance because you most often use a down vote emoticon. Projecting of your sentiments?  
 

On the Wt's website, the words "governing body" and "apostles" are mentioned in the same article, 523 times.  192 times in the same paragraph; 119 times in the same sentence.  The seed was planted early on, that the present Governing Body, are today's apostles. 
"The Governing Body follows the pattern set by “the apostles and elders in Jerusalem” in the first century, who made important decisions on behalf of the entire Christian congregation. (Acts 15:2) Like those faithful men, the members of the Governing Body are not the leaders of our organization. They look to the Bible for guidance, acknowledging that Jehovah God has appointed Jesus Christ as the Head of the congregation. Frequently Asked Questions About Jehovah’s Witnesses p. 41
Like the first-century apostles and elders in Jerusalem, the Governing Body gives direction to the global congregation. Enjoy Life Forever!—An Interactive Bible Course p. 83
"But I am afraid that somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve in his craftiness, so your minds might be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he who comes preaches another Jesus, whom we didn’t preach, or if you receive a different spirit, which you didn’t receive, or a different “good news”, which you didn’t accept, you put up with that well enough. 5 For I reckon that I am not at all behind the very best apostles. 
But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from those who desire an occasion, that in which they boast, they may be found even as we. 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as Christ’s apostles. 14 And no wonder, for even Satan masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is no great thing therefore if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works."  2 Cor 11
I'd hate to be in the shoes of the GB when they face not only Jesus Christ, but his genuine apostles.  Jesus said to them, "Most certainly I tell you that you who have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of Man will sit on the throne of his glory, you also will sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."  Matt  19:28
 

@Srecko Sostar I noticed you agree with witness. If you're ready to act on your own behalf and reenter the conversation, please do so. Don't project your sentiment on the words of others.
@Patiently waiting for Truth I am ignoring you, since you cannot be civil, and this site appears it doesn't ban such behavior. When you're ready to be civil and not rude and obnoxious like so many Jehovah Witnesses are here, I will listen to what you have to say, not before. Thank you.

So tell me, did Jesus speak evil of the Pharisies ? OR, did Jesus only speak TRUTH ? 
If the sins of a man are made known as a warning to others, is that speaking evil of that man, or is it speaking truth ? 
Truth is not evil.  When crimes and sin have been commited by someone, it should be made known. 
 

So tell me, did Jesus speak evil of the Pharisies ? OR, did Jesus only speak TRUTH ? 
If the sins of a man are made known as a warning to others, is that speaking evil of that man, or is it speaking truth ? 
Truth is not evil.  When crimes and sin have been commited by someone, it should be made known. 
 

Speak evil of no man. Titus 3:2
IF once the soldiers of the cross would get the proper thought, that slander and evil speaking are assassinations of the character of another, and that defamation is robbery of another's good name, the sooner they will see this matter in its truly awful light as it must appear in the Lord's sight; and once seeing the matter from this true, divine standpoint must awaken the new creature to the greatest activity possible in the overcoming of such works of the flesh and of the devil. Each will seek to purge out the old leaven of malice and envy and strife and crookedness and evil speaking, that he may be pure in heart, a copy of the Lord.

When someone projects a doctrine to thousands of people, convincing them that what they claim is proven truth, but later is revealed as a lie...that act against truth is an assassination of character of the millions of people who believed the lie.  There is no righteousness in a lie.  None.  The governing leaders have no deep heart-felt concern, no compassion for the sake of the hearer. They display absolute slander against the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit by promoting their organization as "the truth".  
 
Incredibly, the eight compare themselves to the apostles. (2 Cor 11:13)  The word “apostle” describes one set forth as a special “commissioner of Christ”. Paul, “called to be an apostle”, (Rom 1:1) fulfilled this role as a teacher and a prophet given miraculous powers. If a JW would just compare Paul’s works to those of the governing leaders - their “fruits” (Matt 7:15,20), the absence of love for Christ’s anointed members, thus for Jesus Christ and Truth - the distinction between who is an ambassador of Christ and who is not, would be crystal clear. The distinction between truth and lies would be glaringly apparent to them. 
 Paul said the following words to Timothy, about his fellow workers, “the elect”: 
 “Remember that Jesus Christ, of the seed of David, was raised from the dead according to my gospel, 9 for which I suffer trouble as an evildoer, even to the point of chains; but the word of God is not chained. 10 Therefore I endure all things for the sake of the elect, that they also may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
11 This is a faithful saying:
For if we died with Him,
We shall also live with Him.
12 If we endure,
We shall also reign with Him.
If we deny Him,
He also will deny us.
13 If we are faithless,
He remains faithful;
He cannot deny Himself.
14 Remind them of these things, charging them before the Lord not to strive about words to no profit, to the ruin of the hearers. 15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and  idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. 17 And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, 18 who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some. 19 Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: “The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.” 2 Tim chapter 2
I said, "Will any teaching by the Watchtower be proven as clear and truthful?  Think about it, JWs.  If this organization was blessed by God's Holy Spirit, would that Spirit mislead its leaders into telling a falsehood for over seventy years?  It was once proven that Gog was Satan; will it be proven in ten year's time that what was once CLEAR TRUTH about "Gog" now being a coalition of nation, will be found to be a falsehood? "
 The apostle Paul said, "But shun profane and  idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. 17 And their message will spread like cancer.
The organization and its leadership who promote lies, is a cancerous growth.  A person with cancer can either ignore it and die, or do his best to fight against it's deathly hold, by seeking help.  Don't settle, JWs, for men who continue to fill your minds with doctrine that are of "no profit, to the ruin of the hearers".  Jesus is the "Way, the Truth and the Life".  Seek his words, not the words of liars.  John 14:6
 
 
 
 

Is This The Church That Jesus Had In Mind.mp4    

I don't need to reread a foolish comment that defiles God's personal name. It's bad enough Jehovah Witnesses use it here by being representatives of God by their namesake, and then defile it by their own politics and behavior here. You are in league with @Patiently waiting for Truth, and @Pudgy to, only want to fight by being rude and obnoxious to sway the conversation to your kind of prevailing dark side. This is a sad pattern set by foolish people.

This is sooooo funny.  Dimmy you have given us all the big clue here.  False religion = JW Org.
So no, of course the JW Org or their GB cannot set anyone in the path of salvation.
BUT they teach that they can.  One lie after another  They teach falsehoods and false predictions.
Then they throw out people that question them. 
Have a nice day................... 
 

This is sooooo funny.  Dimmy you have given us all the big clue here.  False religion = JW Org.
So no, of course the JW Org or their GB cannot set anyone in the path of salvation.
BUT they teach that they can.  One lie after another  They teach falsehoods and false predictions.
Then they throw out people that question them. 
Have a nice day................... 
 

Read my post again simpleton.

Thanks for the explanation. So the logic would be this: Jesus chose a certain structure in people who call themselves Christians, e.g. WTJWorg, because at the time of their appointment they were the best candidates. After a while, these people and their associates after them chose to interpret the Bible as they wished. Are they still appointed or dismissed?
Result is the same, whatever words you choose to use.
True.
The spirituality you associate with devotion to the Organization is a recipe for disaster, or at least disappointments. Because the Organization is made up, in the context of WTJWorg, of the people who govern, rule the spirituality of the members. Such a thing is not a request of God but of those who claim to “represent” God.
Yes, when they give you a warning of an impending tsunami or hurricane etc.

From what has been written, I conclude that everyone in that "group of believers" was full of the Holy Spirit, not just those with some or specific titles (elder, priest, missioner, CO, GB and similar). If all and every members of the congregation were full of spirit, so they chose some for a some task, why should I or anyone else conclude that a few elected have become a body that has the power to decide what is true and what is false?

My point exactly. How can a person such as yourself, be blameless in the eyes of God, when you treat his words with contradiction? How can Pearl Doxsey claim to be anointed, and yet is insubordinate to Christ teachings? It is not just a matter of quoting scripture, but applying it in its proper context and understanding. It does God no good to be complacent in your quest to be a proper Christian. You need to behave like one at all times, even here.
How do those text you quoted not apply to spiritual leaders, and the reputable men.
Acts 6:3 Amplified Bible (AMP) Therefore, brothers, choose from among you seven men with good reputations [men of godly character and moral integrity], full of the Spirit and of wisdom, whom we may put in charge of this task. Acts 6:3 The Passion Translation (TPT) We want you to carefully select from among yourselves seven godly men.
Are you judging that institution's governing body? By whose authority do you judge, and why haven't you used that same authority to judge other institutions, such as the Catholic governing body, the Holy See?

"An elder must be blameless, the husband of one wife, with faithful children who are not accused of wildness or rebellion. 7 As an overseer of God’s household, he must be blameless, not arrogant, not hot-tempered, not an excessive drinker, not a bully, not greedy for money, 8 but hospitable, loving what is good, sensible, righteous, holy, self-controlled, 9 holding to the faithful message as taught, so that he will be able both to encourage with sound teaching and to refute those who contradict it."  Titus 1:6-9
God's household: 
"you yourselves, as living stones, a spiritual house, are being built to be a holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ."  1 Pet 2:5
"For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put my laws into their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people."  Heb 8:10
Spiritual house: 
"So, then, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with the saints, and members of God’s household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building, being put together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22 In him you are also being built together for God’s dwelling in the Spirit."  Eph 2:20-22
Holy Temple: 
"And what agreement does the temple of God have with idols? For we are the temple of the living God, as God said: I will dwell and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people." 2 Cor 6:16
"Don’t you yourselves know that you are God’s temple and that the Spirit of God lives in you?"  1 Cor 3:16
God's temple is God's spiritual house of "Israel"  - God's household of "saints"/living stones.  God's household is made up of the anointed priesthood under their High Priest, Jesus Christ. 
"Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have boldness to enter the sanctuary through the blood of Jesus— 20 he has inaugurated for us a new and living way through the curtain (that is, through his flesh)— 21 and since we have a great high priest over the house of God"  Heb 10:19-21
Were uncircumcised Gentiles or foreigners allowed in God's Temple?  Never. (Ezek 44:6-9)   The elder body of the Watchtower is by far not comprised of anointed priests who have received "circumcision of the heart". (Rom 2:29)  The scriptures about elders are referring to those who oversee "God's household" as anointed "saints".  
 
 
 
 
 

Gog just emailed me, he said he's gonna have to put things on hold, this D-matar was causing a back log in research and development. These new developments caused Jehovah to double check his math and chronology. In the meantime Gog is clutching his groin cause he has to pee really really bad. Can you guys just figure things out for jehovah so the magogites can set up some portapoties please.

I'm sure you woke up bitter with the intention to do battle. Find another one of your kind to fight with, and you're correct, you are not an entertaining person, just an angry and sad one like @Pudgy

Foolish people do laugh at themselves. Glad you believe your poor behavior is hilarious to you. This must mean, you entertain yourself daily. I'm sure God doesn't find you amusing or funny. How would I know that, read and understand the bible.

Thank you for the compliments. 
Let me tell you about my day... This morning at 7 am I went for a lovely walk along our local seafront and onto the pebble beach. The sun shone and i was listening to some great music through my cans (headphones). Then suddenly i spotted a dead dolphin on the beach. Quite sad to see, but life and death happen. 
Earlier this evening I spent sometime on my computer looking at MSN. Some very sad stories and horrible pictures. It's show what a mess the world is in.
So, Dimmy, Bily, Allen, i have visited this forum now for some light entertainment, which you always provide for me .
Thank you for the light entertainemnt and for giving me something, or someone to laugh at. You brighten up my day.
 

Is this what you understand? You talk about me twisting words, while you twist words yourself. 
We can agree, you are no better than those 8 men you disparage. However, what do they hold in their hearts that you don't? What do Christians demonstrate better than you? 
Can you explain, how those 8 men are angry and are displaying it? Aren't you an acquaintance here with such a person, and is hiding their true identity from the public? How is your support of one any different?
 

You forget the fact that religious leaders like to see themselves as God's representatives and as the only ones who know how to understand God's words.
In light of this fact, which you forgot for some inexplicable reason, WTJWorg and their Main Ecclesiastical Body constantly claim to be “guided by HS”, or in other words, that the all and every interpretations presented by them, came from God.
With this clarity of the real situation, the term “revision” or "increased knowledge" takes on a real meaning. For it is hard to believe that God would have been the one to revise his own “dogma”. It, "revisions", is the product of manipulators who are at the forefront of religion.
Thanks but No. I don't belong to your "flock"  

Thank you for being civil with your answers. Can we agree this would be left up to the interpreter? As you stated, "it's kind of" which would mean, a revision can also be interpreted as "increased knowledge" on a subject.
If this is your only endeavor, wouldn't it be profitable for you to at least educate yourself while still wondering what to do with your life?
I am always willing to listen. Private chat, email, etc. Don't be influenced by the negativity this place has to offer.