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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Dmitar in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    I'm sad to see you did not keep your word, and you are now just an obnoxious fool, like @Pudgy Satan has really gotten a hold of you. The same kind of tasteless and foolishness you just posted. I guess you can't be civil.
    What physical world can Satan not influence. Is there another physical world your mindless rant suggest?
    How did I twist his post to mean something else? The one that twisted it, is yourself. Answer the question, what other PHYSICAL WORLD are you both now referring to, that Satan cannot influence. 
    Do both of you understand the definition of the word, ACT?
    1. Take action; do something: 2. Behave in the way specified:

     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    Revisions are a kind of contradiction. Take, for example, interpretations of "generation." Each new "revision" is contrary to the previous interpretation. So they are all contradictory to each other.
    I am not interested in other religions, because all religions are the same. They want to have power over people. The conversation about this religion stems from only one fact. I used to be a member of this religion. I'm not anymore. This is just a part of mental / spiritual gymnastics, then certain types of loneliness and lack of interest in socializing with people who have a different history. There are probably some other reasons, but who will understand all this :).
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Witness in After Forty Years at Bethel...   
    As a sinner, in God's eyes, through Christ, I am no better than anyone. But the thing is that I KNOW THAT I'M NO BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE. 
    The problem starts with the GB of JW Org, who think they ARE better than others. How do we know that the GB think they are better? 
    1. The GB call themselves the Faithful and Discreet Slave.
    2. The GB get their helpers to call them the F&DS.
    3. The GB say that ONLY they, those 8 Men, are the F&DS.
    4. The GB start to beat 'their fellow slaves'.
    5. The GB tell the Anointed NOT TO MEET TOGETHER.
    6. The GB state as 'fact' that God and Christ trust them. 
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    And it is the GB that 'can't control their anger', that's why they are so wicked. 
    That is why the GB deliberately hide Pedophiles in their JW org.
    That is why the GB deliberately allow children to suffer SEXUAL ABUSE. 
    That is why the GB are so immoral. Because they have alowed themselves to be used by the Devil. 
    That is why the GB are so greedy and selfish.
    That is why the GB have to keep building massive buildings as showpieces. 
    Because the GB are not 'spirtual men' they are 'physical men'. They can only understand physical things.
    And that is why God and Christ do not, and never will, use that GB to teach truth. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in After Forty Years at Bethel...   
    But we never ignored you when you were telling us that War is right in God's eyes.
    And we never ignored you when you went on about how many Guns you own and how you would deal with anyone attacking you or your family. 
    We had discussion. Good or bad it was discussion. 
    As for me I don't mind if anyone blocks me. It just proves their narrow mindedness. 
    All discussion is good as long as a person has a strong faith in God, through Christ. I can even handle TTH when he calls me names . And Anna, who once offered me proof of the things I wrote, but now choses to be 'on the other side' of truth. Even JWI would offer proof on the immorality and wickedness in the JW org, but now seems to have become a lap dog to the Org. 
    Discussion has waned but insults have grown bigger. However it's still better to know how other peole feel or think. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in After Forty Years at Bethel...   
    As a sinner, in God's eyes, through Christ, I am no better than anyone. But the thing is that I KNOW THAT I'M NO BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE. 
    The problem starts with the GB of JW Org, who think they ARE better than others. How do we know that the GB think they are better? 
    1. The GB call themselves the Faithful and Discreet Slave.
    2. The GB get their helpers to call them the F&DS.
    3. The GB say that ONLY they, those 8 Men, are the F&DS.
    4. The GB start to beat 'their fellow slaves'.
    5. The GB tell the Anointed NOT TO MEET TOGETHER.
    6. The GB state as 'fact' that God and Christ trust them. 
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    And it is the GB that 'can't control their anger', that's why they are so wicked. 
    That is why the GB deliberately hide Pedophiles in their JW org.
    That is why the GB deliberately allow children to suffer SEXUAL ABUSE. 
    That is why the GB are so immoral. Because they have alowed themselves to be used by the Devil. 
    That is why the GB are so greedy and selfish.
    That is why the GB have to keep building massive buildings as showpieces. 
    Because the GB are not 'spirtual men' they are 'physical men'. They can only understand physical things.
    And that is why God and Christ do not, and never will, use that GB to teach truth. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in After Forty Years at Bethel...   
    Um, so when did God make you the judge then ?  Did God make you an angel to give judgement ? 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from JW Insider in Did you know that Mars is the only planet in our Solar System inhabited ENTIRELY by Robots?   
    Oh so my discussions are not good enough lately . 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    Oh Dimmy, Billy, Allen, you make yourself look so stupid. You twist people's words and you think no one will notice it.
    Note Screko says 'cannot act on the physical world'   BUT Dimmy says 
    "and in what sense can Satan not influence man or his earthly agencies? "
    We can all see the twisting of words and meanings here. 
    Srecko is talking about Satan not taking physical action, BUT Dimmy twists it to mean not having 'spritual or mental influence'. 
    Dimmy, you are nothing but a trouble maker, BUT you do it in a funy way
     Keep trying Dimmy, you may become a comedienne one day. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    Oh Dimmy, Billy, Allen, you make yourself look so stupid. You twist people's words and you think no one will notice it.
    Note Screko says 'cannot act on the physical world'   BUT Dimmy says 
    "and in what sense can Satan not influence man or his earthly agencies? "
    We can all see the twisting of words and meanings here. 
    Srecko is talking about Satan not taking physical action, BUT Dimmy twists it to mean not having 'spritual or mental influence'. 
    Dimmy, you are nothing but a trouble maker, BUT you do it in a funy way
     Keep trying Dimmy, you may become a comedienne one day. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Dmitar in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    Then, this must include the 4 women bloggers that have become your spiritual leaders about preaching falsehoods.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    "Therefore Gog still represents, not a visible human ruler or nation, such as Russia, but a spirit ruler. Whom, then, does Gog symbolize?   It is evident now that Gog is a figure prophetic of the ruler of all seven demon princes, namely, Satan the Devil." w53 10/1 p. 583
    "However, recent Bible investigation has proved that Gog of Magog is a prophetic symbol of the false god of this world, Satan the Devil, when making his final attack upon the Christian witnesses of God’s kingdom of heaven."  w60 4/15 p. 243
    "Gog is “the ruler of this world,” Satan the Devil. He received the name Gog after his ouster from heaven, following the Kingdom’s birth in 1914. (John 12:31) “The land of Magog” is the location to which Gog and his demons are confined in the vicinity of the earth. w88 9/15 p. 24-25"
    "Gog of Magog is identified as Satan the Devil in his debased position since 1914. As a spirit creature, he cannot carry out his attack directly, but he will use human agencies to do his deeds. Who will these human agencies be? The Bible does not give us details, yet it does give us certain indications that can help us to identify who they will be."  w03 6/1 p. 20-21
    "When we compare all these Bible references about the final attack on God’s people, it is clear that the name Gog of Magog does not refer to Satan. Instead, Gog of Magog refers to a group of nations. ws15 5/15 p. 27-28
    Although it was proven by "Bible investigation" that Gog is Satan and Magog IS the location where Gog and his demons are confined on the earth (!), the leadership of the organization was preaching a falsehood, for over 70 years.  NOW, it is evidently  CLEAR  that Gog of Magog DOES NOT REFER TO SATAN.
    Will any teaching by the Watchtower be proven as clear and truthful?  Think about it, JWs.  If this organization was blessed by God's Holy Spirit, would that Spirit mislead its leaders into telling a falsehood for over seventy years?  It was once proven that Gog was Satan; will it be proven in ten year's time that what was once CLEAR TRUTH about "Gog" now being a coalition of nation, will be found to be a falsehood?  
    "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come."  John 16:13
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in After Forty Years at Bethel...   
    Um, so when did God make you the judge then ?  Did God make you an angel to give judgement ? 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Dmitar in After Forty Years at Bethel...   
    It's okay. You weren't in a court of man, but God's court of credibility. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in After Forty Years at Bethel...   
    You know, I am a great admirer of William Jefferson Clinton, former President of the United States to the extent of his skill at lying better than anybody else I’ve ever seen, with a smile, and with an intelligence that is far beyond my own.
    I have listened to him at great length during lengthy speeches and dissertations and known from facts that he was lying …… but with a sense of awe and wonder of how well he was doing it.
    If you didn’t know better, the hypnotic affect was captivating and pervasive.
    …. not since ex-president Bill Clinton have I seen such a skilled “lawyer” as the screen persona DMITAR, who drags you into his slanderous fantasies and misrepresentation of everything you can imagine with such skill that you are inclined to defend yourself, where no defense is necessary…… Just to exercise common courtesy in a debate.
    He can take a narrative that is totally false and spin it so it seems to have some legitimate value … a truly amazing thing to watch, like a trout’s admiration of a fishing lure with bright colors.
    …… but besides being slanderous and libelous, and borderline dangerous the most chilling thing about having a conversation with Dimitar is the fact that he is almost always, if not actually always wrong about the positions he takes.
    ….. as a cartoon dog I am completely immune to his slander, and his libel, but even so I don’t have to like it, and I don’t.
    On various discussion forums I understand you can block certain people, but I do not believe in doing that, as dangerous people are able to hide in darkness if that’s done. 

    Therefore I have decided to completely ignore Dimitar, and his various quasi-evil manifestations with other screen names, even as I mentioned earlier that’s probably a safe bet that he can be completely ignored …… And should be.
    …… And should be.
    It should be interesting to observe the sound of one hand clapping.
     
     
     
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in After Forty Years at Bethel...   
    Sorry, I'm done playing court with you.  You can call the next witness to take the stand.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Dmitar in After Forty Years at Bethel...   
    Can you explain how the churches Paul visited don't amount to a structured organization of churches? No different from your bloggers 4 Women. 
    How does building churches and supporting those churches, like in ancient times; does that amount to a poor structure with donations? Are you suggesting the apostles defrauded the church?
    Is it really the way you framed your answer?
    Then, you disagree with God, since that spiritual temple needs an earthly installment as it was in ancient time.
    But God said unto me, Thou shalt not build a house for my name, because thou art a man of war, and hast shed blood. Aramaic Bible in Plain English And LORD JEHOVAH said to me: “You shall not build a house for my name, because you are a Warrior and because you are a man who has shed much blood.
    Who built that Spiritual Temple that stood even after Christ, and a small part remains today?
    Then, you are saying that Google, Facebook, and Twitter are giving those services for free just like their affiliation of the 4 women? And their support of each other is not considered a contribution for each other, and all those others affiliated with Pearl Doxsey blogs are interlopers. Do I that correct? 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Dmitar in After Forty Years at Bethel...   
    Okay rest. Perhaps tomorrow or when you decide to think, you won't be just a commoner in search of vengeance through irrational thoughts by being rude and obnoxious. It appears you're no better than Jehovah Witnesses here that can't control their anger because they just can't answer simple questions. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Chioke Lin in Paradise… Will it come?   
    BUT,
    True Christians would NOT tell lies pretending to know when Armageddon is going to happen.
    True Christians would NOT insult and degrade the True Anointed ones.
    True Christians would NOT hide Pedophiles in their organization.
    True Christians would NOT cast out Victims of Child Sexual Abuse, nor call those children liars.
    True Christians would NOT allow people to become collateral damage within their Organization, just to keep the outside of that Org looking 'nice' and 'clean'.
    In fact, True Christians wound NOT be Jehovah's Witnesses. 
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Dmitar in After Forty Years at Bethel...   
    Can you explain your position here, since you don't abide by scripture? What faith in God through Jesus can a none conformist have? 
    Can you give me an example how this thought would make sense to a thinking Christian?
    NAS  2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; (2 Tim. 3:16 NAS)
    Apparently, that was something you insinuated with your poor application of Greek Scripture.
    Can you explain how you have no faith in yourself, yet find a need to answer questions for your personal faith in someone you have no faith on? Can you clarify? 
    Also, all ancient scrolls were written by men, under God's inspiration that you don't believe in. How does any bible version sway your argument?
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to JW Insider in Did you know that Mars is the only planet in our Solar System inhabited ENTIRELY by Robots?   
    (Proverbs 26:17) . . .Like someone grabbing hold of a dog’s ears Is the one passing by who becomes furious about a quarrel that is not his.
    When I was a kid back in the 1960's, this verse never made me think of Internet discussion forums. Yet, the style of a certain participant here, who will not be named (though he has had dozens), is always the first thing that comes to mind.
    [edited to add: But, of course, I also know that it isn't fair to focus on only one example, when there are many others, including myself who just can't pass up a good discussion, even if not the least bit furious about it.]
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in After Forty Years at Bethel...   
    Ha Ha. Thank you for confirming what i have said about you. You have to lump people together. It's your only arguament.
    You are frightened of INDIVIDUALS. Just like your GB and the Elders, you are all frightened of INDIVIDUALS. 
    Even other JWs here are frightened of INDIVIDUALS. 
    And it would be impossible to use any Bible that wasn't linked to something. After all, someone has to do the translating, some one has to do the printing. Someone has to do the selling. 
    I don't need to research any bible translaters, printers, sellers. I just buy a Bible and read it. It does not make me part of any 'sect' or religion. 
    Or perhaps i should only use my large Bibles from the 1800's.  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    I asked you for proof that the person to whom you accuse, is actually a pedophile. I don't see proof yet just more waffle.
    I have said I am not worthy of life in the 'new world', which is true. That seems to bother you.
    The GB of the JW Org have been presumptuous enough to say that they WILL go to heaven.  
    I only stated fact, that the writings from Matthew onward were written in Greek. Though I have heard that Matthew may have actually written in Hebrew, but I have no proof of it.  But if you wish to call it the New Testament, so be it. 
    And what, in your opinion, am I willing to accept ?  My hatred of Pedophilia is well known here. 
    But if you are part of the JW Org then you support Pedophilia because the GB of the W/t - JW Org make it possible for Pedophiles to hide within the JW Org. And I still don't read any news about  that GB handing over the 25 year + Database containing names and addresses of accusations about American Pedophiles within the JW Org.  So if you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    @Dmitar  I'm still waiting for your proof of this. 
    I like you words here. it shows your stupidity. People here know who I am, and I know it was you that got me removed Billy + all the other AKAs you use. 
    I think you must have around ten AKAs here and for what ?  
    I am on a sort of mission, as all Christians should be. To make known the Good News of God's Kingdom. 
    You mistake warnings and interpret them as vengeance ??? Your choice. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Arauna in Did you know that Mars is the only planet in our Solar System inhabited ENTIRELY by Robots?   
    I'd be more concerned about the robots that China is now using. The unmanned ones that are carrying machine guns.
    Robot warfare is here. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Amidstheroses in Did you know that Mars is the only planet in our Solar System inhabited ENTIRELY by Robots?   
    I'd be more concerned about the robots that China is now using. The unmanned ones that are carrying machine guns.
    Robot warfare is here. 
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