Patiently waiting for Truth

What should that message be? To behave as the world does? What kind of message are we giving here? The message of Christ or the message of the AntiChrist?
It is simple to recite scripture. Does, that really serve a purpose when the heart is not set in righteousness? 

What lesson should we gather from that. Once again, what fellowship is worthy here?
Then why be quarrelsome about spiritual leaders if you indeed accept all men but one are imperfect, yet, God saw fit to use those imperfect men. God is not a God of confusion, neither should Christ followers.

What I'm trying to say is, this forum is not an ice-cream social.  Perhaps there are a few who are seeking fellowship; but surely you notice that it is battle of beliefs - of truth against lies.  Jesus, the apostles, the prophets -  all "associated" with people of bad character in the sense of bringing them their message.  

Did it happen to ANY of the prophets sent by God? 

Did that happen to Jesus Christ?  Did it happen to the apostles?

@Witness 
What fellowship should I have here?
1 Corinthians 15:33 Paul is talking about those people with whom we associate or fellowship. We tend to take on the character of the group with which we associate. If we associate with people of bad character, they will succeed in pulling us down to their level.

I fail to see the difference given the definition.
God and Christ demand that of us, not men, even though that was the purpose to descend, Jesus a spirit as a man. Therefore, we are obligated as Christians to listen to that man if we wish to remain in his fellowship.
I fail to see how projecting your personal feelings amounts to following in Jesus footsteps.
You would think, any Christian leader would exercise being humble and responsible. Where can you find a perfect man to commission leaders today? Isn't that the truth spoken in scripture?
Spiritual leaders should have access where a concern is deemed necessary. How many personal conversations do you think the Pope has in a day, if it isn't indirectly mentioned to him by his Cardinals or Bishops?
I see no difference with a structured organization. Why should any Christian have a problem with that. It was conducted in the first century church.

... on this forum.  

And more to the point, does he still claim to own a 50 ca. BMG sniper rifle?

Allen, are you saying that you are not a JW...after all these years of defending the organization, vehemently?  

How would this not apply to anyone here?
When the Bible Students began to apply scripture correctly, and Russell was inspired to follow the lead of the first Christian as ascribed by our lord and savior, are you saying, Christ application of the ancient scrolls were false teachings? How can this ideology presented here by you not be seen as a false prophet as you apply it to this organization?
By your own words, I'm afraid you are.
In studying their organization, I have not seen where a student glorifies their leaders. They venerate their leaders, which is not the same, as the apostles graciously placed themselves as an example. In the eyes of God, we are all equal. That however doesn't mean the apostles didn't have a responsibility to be spiritual leaders. Any religious institution needs leaders that understand the foundation of scripture correctly.
Take example with the poster Witness. This individual venerates a blogger. By that determination, that person is a spiritual leader to Witness. Another thing you have not considered; a "gathering" The implication of a gathering is two or three individuals. If that is established as it is done here by @Srecko Sostar, @Witness, @Patiently waiting for Truth, you have formed an unintentional church. If you consider the Book of Matthew, follow along and understand the entire Book. Once you have established that, you will concede "witness" to be your spiritual leader since you agree with that individual. 
Once again, The usage of scripture is meant to be used as a spiritual calling to excellence.

Simple answer, It is in Scripture.  Matthew 7 : 15 - 17
Berean Study Bible
Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
Deuteronomy 18:22 
Berean Study Bible
When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD and the message does not come to pass or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.
From the time of Russell the Leaders have thought they are the 'Faithful and Discreet Salve'. They have thought they were giving the 'proper food at the proper time'.  But the food they were giving was LIES. The scripture above proves it. 
The Scriptures judge the Governing Body of Jehovah's witnesses. 
Therefore I am not placing myself above Christ. 
But, as I've been told before on here, there is no one in the JW Org above the GB. No one in the JW Org can get the GB to confess or repent. No JWs can remove the whole GB from that Org.
So the Org contiues to dominated by a Wicked Slave thet beats their fellow slaves. 

Being an ex-JW is not a bad thing. It is not a sin. Because it is plain to see that God and Christ do not work through the JW Org, and do not work through the GB. 

Simple answer, It is in Scripture.  Matthew 7 : 15 - 17
Berean Study Bible
Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
Deuteronomy 18:22 
Berean Study Bible
When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD and the message does not come to pass or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.
From the time of Russell the Leaders have thought they are the 'Faithful and Discreet Salve'. They have thought they were giving the 'proper food at the proper time'.  But the food they were giving was LIES. The scripture above proves it. 
The Scriptures judge the Governing Body of Jehovah's witnesses. 
Therefore I am not placing myself above Christ. 
But, as I've been told before on here, there is no one in the JW Org above the GB. No one in the JW Org can get the GB to confess or repent. No JWs can remove the whole GB from that Org.
So the Org contiues to dominated by a Wicked Slave thet beats their fellow slaves. 

I just realized how i comment about this topic on another topic about same issue. Let me copy/paste the same comment.
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Suicide in the ancient world did not carry the same negative connotations as it does today. Even bible text nowhere said how suicide is a sin or forbidden by Law. The biblical attitude toward suicide ranges from ambivalence to praise. Never made Judgmental statement against those who done that act of self-destruction. 
-Abimelech came to the tower, and fought against it, and came near to the entrance of the tower to burn it with fire. But a certain woman threw an upper millstone on Abimelech's head, and crushed his skull. Immediately he called to the young man who carried his armor and said to him, “Draw your sword and kill me, so people will not say about me, ‘A woman killed him.’ ” So the young man thrust him through, and he died.
-the counselor Ahithophel hanged himself                                                                                                                                                                                            When Ahithophel saw that his counsel was not followed, he saddled his donkey and went off home to his own city. He set his house in order, and hanged himself; he died and was buried in the tomb of his father.
-Zimri, King of Israel, burned down his house around himself after military defeat.                                                                                                            When Zimri saw that the city was taken, he went into the citadel of the royal palace and set the palace on fire around him. So he died,
-Saul and his armor-bearer                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Then Saul said to his armor-bearer, “Draw your sword, and thrust me through with it, so that these uncircumcised may not come and make sport of me. But his armor-bearer was unwilling, for he was terrified. So Saul took his own sword and fell on it. When his armor-bearer saw that Saul was dead, he also fell on his sword and died. Thus Saul died; he and his three sons and all his house died together
-Samson                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Then Samson prayed to the Lord,“Sovereign Lord, remember me. Please, God, strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes.... Samson said, “Let me die with the Philistines!” Then he pushed with all his might, and down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he killed many more when he died than while he lived.
-even Judas suicide is an act of remorse, deep regret. According to JW elders instruction, he gave visible, strong signs of repentance :))      When Judas, who had betrayed him, saw that Jesus was condemned, he was seized with remorse and returned the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and the elders. I have sinned,” he said, “for I have betrayed innocent blood
 

Sorry Srecko. I can see what happened. You had quoted Thinking's comment complete, and I took the quotes from your quote, hence they came up with your name. I'm sorry, it's my fault, I got lazy. I should have gone to Thinking's original post for all of his comments. I cannot amend it now as it won't let me make changes. sorry.  I will learn a lesson from this and be more careful in the future. 
 

No

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What individual?  The man who made the video, the man who wrote the book, the man who died on the park bench, Nathan Knorr, or Patiently waiting for Truth?

The most unique way I know of to help someone inclined and determined to commit suicide is to treat them like a dog.
Take them home, feed them, and let them sleep all day.

I am sure many of us do help them. But probably not using the kinds of methods you imagine...

I wasn't commenting on suicide, but on Srecko's comment - 
Some of you are already resisting the "nonsense" that comes from GB, while at the same time you are watching some of your spiritual brothers and sisters stumble under the burden of theology that you are aware has failed. ............. Don't you feel sad? Don't you want to help them not be afraid of man?

@Patiently waiting for Truth
Greeting.  
In your last comment, by mistake two Thinking's comments are presented under my name.

Being an ex-JW is not a bad thing. It is not a sin. Because it is plain to see that God and Christ do not work through the JW Org, and do not work through the GB. 

Being an ex-JW is not a bad thing. It is not a sin. Because it is plain to see that God and Christ do not work through the JW Org, and do not work through the GB.