Jump to content
The World News Media

Patiently waiting for Truth

Member
  • Posts

    3,150
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    36

Reputation Activity

  1. Like
    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Mr. Lifeson in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    How do you define "acceptance" of this? I acknowledge it as reality, but I don't like it.
  2. Haha
    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    Mr. Lifeson;
    Dmitar, although being able to read, does not correctly comprehend anything about anything, because his thinking processes are completely pre-programmed by a carefully crafted agenda which he is apparently duty bound to promote.
    It’s a very common phenomenon for soft hearted people, and the evil people whose livelihood depends on that good hearted naïveté.
    Life can only exist because it has something to eat … and for more than at least 200 million years there is inescapable HARD EVIDENCE that the God created Natural Order of all life is that there are two classes of animal life …. Predators …. And Prey. 
    This is the case now, and has ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE.
    When you accept this, only then will you understand Genesis, and a thousand other things, correctly.
    Agenda driven thinking always subverts and corrupts logical thinking, and ALWAYS results in the wrong conclusions.
    …. And a comprehensive totally screwed up world viewpoint filled with “inconsistencies”
    .Regrettably, and with great embarrassment, I know this from experience.
     
     
  3. Upvote
    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    It is true that i have problematic grammar, but your confused conclusion is funny.  
  4. Haha
    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to xero in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    Agreed. Often people who are full of themselves (confusing this w/holy spirit) go on and on playing bible-ping pong or "I'll parse each sentence you make and see if I kind find a spelling error and congratulate myself when I do" are colossal bores. You see the same kind of pin-head analysis in a lot of forums. These are the Mensa members who've never accomplished anything in their lives except score high-enough on the sub-genius category (which is Mensa) so they can content themselves on their superiority despite their tangible real-world mediocre lives. 
  5. Upvote
  6. Downvote
    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Chioke Lin in Paradise… Will it come?   
    BUT,
    True Christians would NOT tell lies pretending to know when Armageddon is going to happen.
    True Christians would NOT insult and degrade the True Anointed ones.
    True Christians would NOT hide Pedophiles in their organization.
    True Christians would NOT cast out Victims of Child Sexual Abuse, nor call those children liars.
    True Christians would NOT allow people to become collateral damage within their Organization, just to keep the outside of that Org looking 'nice' and 'clean'.
    In fact, True Christians wound NOT be Jehovah's Witnesses. 
     
     
  7. Downvote
    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Peter Carroll in Paradise… Will it come?   
    BUT,
    True Christians would NOT tell lies pretending to know when Armageddon is going to happen.
    True Christians would NOT insult and degrade the True Anointed ones.
    True Christians would NOT hide Pedophiles in their organization.
    True Christians would NOT cast out Victims of Child Sexual Abuse, nor call those children liars.
    True Christians would NOT allow people to become collateral damage within their Organization, just to keep the outside of that Org looking 'nice' and 'clean'.
    In fact, True Christians wound NOT be Jehovah's Witnesses. 
     
     
  8. Like
    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Paradise… Will it come?   
    BUT,
    True Christians would NOT tell lies pretending to know when Armageddon is going to happen.
    True Christians would NOT insult and degrade the True Anointed ones.
    True Christians would NOT hide Pedophiles in their organization.
    True Christians would NOT cast out Victims of Child Sexual Abuse, nor call those children liars.
    True Christians would NOT allow people to become collateral damage within their Organization, just to keep the outside of that Org looking 'nice' and 'clean'.
    In fact, True Christians wound NOT be Jehovah's Witnesses. 
     
     
  9. Downvote
    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    I am speaking for myself only, but I enjoy spiritual discussions if in fact they really ARE spiritual discussions, and not the agenda driven mantras not far removed from how Catholics count beads on a rosary, and mumble "Hail Mary, full of grace....", etc., but I can tell you for a fact that almost nothing upsets me.
    What you consider what I dislike would get you fired as a 7 year old Dick Tracy detective, and I get upset rattling peoples' chains to see if they are awake.?
    HahahahaHAHahaha
    If you had a sense of humor you would know how easy and what fun that is.
     
  10. Haha
    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    Russel wrote some of his books 140 years ago -  What is your excuse for your deviations and inadequate knowledge of the bible!  You want to be a teacher and lord it over the JWs but you do not understand half of what you say!
    I think I have now said enough.  I hope you realize you are too prideful..... YOU rather have hate-OCD- revile the GB. ... 
  11. Upvote
    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    Who are "they"?  Your leaders? Or, people in the world?  You've actually shown that the UN cannot be the Beast (Rev 13:5-7) that "makes war with the saints", because they don't even know who the anointed are.  
  12. Downvote
    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    Because Jesus portrays them that way. (Luke 5)
    Come come, tell the truth and shame the Devil.
    The WT explanation of the wild beast is instantly recognizable. You don’t have to agree with that interpretation to see how the International agency for peace and security is “an image” of the various governments and how it derives its power from them, and that through it ALL the nations  (ten horns) briefly combine to rule.
    Your interpretation? It is that of the leadership of a religion that represents 1/1000th of the world population that even now, most are only vaguely familiar with and many have never heard of it at all. Seriously? Whereas the WT interpretation is recognizable worldwide, very few people have any idea of what “anointed” Christians are. They don’t even know what it is, and yet your grudge against them comprises the cornerstone of your belief system.
    It’s just you playing Marvel Avenger evil superanointed heroes battling Marvel Avenger good superanointed heroes for who gets preaching dominion over the little people of the world.
    It’s just pure loony—you playing out your grudge at tireless and tiresome length—making as though it was the very central theme of the Bible’s climax.
  13. Upvote
    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    Perhaps Russell was deranged, and Rutherford for building Beth Sarim...and Franz for promoting 1975, and then blaming JWs for its failure. 
    "In 1976, Fred Franz, Society vice president, spoke to a large audience in Toronto, Canada, and asked a rhetorical question:
    "'Do you know why nothing happened in 1975?  Then, pointing at his audience, he shouted:  'It was because you expected something to happen'" (Apocalypse Delayed, Penton, 1986, p. 100)
    The present GB, are absolutely deranged as well.  Their consciences are corrupted.
    "Everything is clean to those who are clean. But nothing is clean to corrupt unbelievers. Indeed, their minds and their consciences are corrupted. 16 They claim to know God, but they deny him by what they do. They are detestable, disobedient, and unfit to do anything good."  Titus 1:15,16
  14. Upvote
    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    That  explains the rise of the Wt organization that you love, perfectly!  The Divine Plan of the Ages!  Perhaps not so divine, but more of a plan to "capture".  (Col 2:8; Rev 13:10)  Powerful use?  Yes against the anointed Temple of God, those under the New Covenant promise/"woman".  (Gal 4:23-26; Rev 12:1-4; 13:1,2)
    Why do You make men like fish of the sea, (Isa 57:20; Rev 13:1)
    Like creeping things that have no ruler over them?
    15 They take up all of them with a hook,
    They catch them in their net,
    And gather them in their dragnet.
    Therefore they rejoice and are glad.
    16 Therefore they sacrifice to their net,
    And burn incense to their dragnet; (“Jehovah’s organization”)
    Because by them their share is sumptuous
    And their food plentiful.
    17 Shall they therefore empty their net,
    And continue to slay nations without pity?  Hab 1:15-17
    “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet that was cast into the sea and gathered some of every kind,  which, when it was full, they drew to shore; and they sat down and gathered the good into vessels, but threw the bad away.  So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just,  and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”  Matt 13:47-50
    Ever consider your "preaching work" as a form of capturing people into Satan's dragnet?   Can you honestly say that you have always preached "truth" - the authentic truth in Jesus Christ?  Or, "empty philosophy" of failed doctrine?  Why would anyone be proud and arrogant of such a preaching work?  
    These scriptures identify your leaders and what traits have been instilled in JWs:
    "You must understand this: In the last days there will be violent periods of time. 2 People will be selfish and love money. They will brag, be arrogant, and use abusive language. They will curse their parents, show no gratitude, have no respect for what is holy, 3 and lack normal affection for their families. They will refuse to make peace with anyone. They will be slanderous, lack self-control, be brutal, and have no love for what is good. 4 They will be traitors. They will be reckless and conceited. They will love pleasure rather than God. 5 They will appear to have a godly life, but they will not let its power change them. Stay away from such people.
    6 Some of these men go into homes and mislead weak-minded women who are burdened with sins and led by all kinds of desires. 7 These women are always studying but are never able to recognize the truth.
    8 As Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men oppose the truth. Their minds are corrupt, and the faith they teach is counterfeit. 9 Certainly, they won’t get very far. Like the stupidity of Jannes and Jambres, their stupidity will be plain to everyone."  2 Tim 3:1-9
     
     
     
     
     

  15. Haha
    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    Exactly. The woman’s deranged.
    The way to look at wild beast prophesies is as you have often said—the agency that comes into it’s own as humanistic ideologues put it to powerful use. 
    “Now, the fly in the ointment of saying that international organization for bringing peace and security to the world, presuming to do what only God’s kingdom can do and thus betraying its ‘blasphemous’ nature—the fly in the ointment of saying that international organization is the mighty eighth king that draws its power from the seven is that it sure doesn’t act mighty. The sky-blue helmeted troops that nobody pays any attention to trying to enforce peace, whereas everybody knows you don’t put troops in sky-blue helmets. I mean, they’re sort of like Boy Scouts—they mean well but are not to be taken seriously. 
    Maybe what must be done is reappraise the beast giving breath (Revelation 13:15) to the image of the beast, and figure just when does it do that? At its creation, yes, first as its 1919 forerunner League of Nations, then, after it goes into the abyss and re-emerges, as the United Nations, yes, then it “tells those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the wild beast that had the sword-stroke and yet revived.” (Vs 14) 
    But there’s not a lot more breath breathed into it. You don’t breathe life into it while the harlot is riding high, hailing it as the “political expression of God’s kingdom on earth” at exactly the same time as Jehovah’s Witnesses are galvanized to “advertise, advertise, advertise the [real] king and his kingdom. You breathe life into it once is has grown weary of the harlot and is showing signs of bucking it—once the dominant culture has turned atheistic.
    You don’t breathe life into it until the times immediately ahead? That humanistic framework is put in place as of the image’s founding, and then not much is done with it—until what is just ahead of us? Is it with the UN Agenda 2030 that life is breathed into it, and with that human scheme “the wild beast should both speak and cause to be killed all those who refuse to worship the image of the wild beast [as] It puts under compulsion all people—the small and the great, the rich and the poor, the free and the slaves—that these should be marked on their right hand or on their forehead, and that nobody can buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.”  (Vs 15-18)
    The humanistic way of saving the earth—tamp down that population growth. What can be better than pushing sexual conduct that won’t result in babies? Cool down that planet. How better to do it than squeezing out fossil fuels so that sun and wind will pick up the slack and if it doesn’t—well then, adjust. Redistribute that money. How better to do it that destroying the economy and re-emerging it in a great reset? Tamp down those freedoms people fixate on—they can’t handle them. Remake religion so that it’s ‘my way or the highway’—if it comes on board for backing human schemes, it can stay for now.
    None of this can be done openly, for people love their own comfort and they love their own nations. They won’t stand by to see them eviscerated. It must be done clandestinely and it must be done by trillionaires—nobody else would have the wherewithal to pull it off. Oh, yeah—plenty of conspiracies can be spun from this. The problem with conspiracy theories is that, once a few of them turn out to be true, you tend to believe anything that comes down the pipe.
    Some of the current conspiracy theories involve COVID 19, its origin, its trajectory, and regimens to deal with it. I’ve read the Breggin and the Mercola books and they do make for good reads—both of them heavily endnoted. The trouble is their solution to thwarting a conspiracy always lies in reverting to the status quo—as if all was hunky dory before COVID-19 revealed itself. Breggin keeps referring to those who benefit—and there are those who benefit enormously—as “global predators”fixated on their own “power, wealth, and self-aggrandizement.” If he says it once, he says it a dozen times. Why does he do that? They are humans fixing the planet—the humanistic way. 
    On the other hand, the nations of this earth always paint themselves with laudable goals. They never paint themselves as beasts. Yet that is how the Bible paints them, for that is how they behave—ripping, tearing, and devouring each other and whoever is caught in the crossfire. Sometimes they even turn on their own citizens in the guise of helping them. So maybe Breggin is on to something after all.”
    (from https://www.tomsheepandgoats.com/2021/12/doesnt-that-new-wild-beast-look-an-awful-lot-like-the-bible-wild-beasts.html )
     
  16. Upvote
    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    What's the problem?  What am I making up?  
    Rev 17:12 - “The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast."
    Rev 17:13 - The beast and the ten horns/"kings"  you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire."
    Rev 13:1 - The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. 
    Horns represent kings.  The kings Jesus is referring to are his kings - "and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen."  Rev 1:5,6
    We know they are the anointed, also because of this scripture: 
    And they sang a new song, saying:
    “You are worthy to take the scroll
        and to open its seals,
    because you were slain,
        and with your blood you purchased for God
        persons from every tribe and language and people and nation.
    10 You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God,
        and they will reign on the earth.”
    The "beast" is the "man of lawlessness".  Rev 13:18.  It has "set itself up" in the Temple of God.  2 Thess 2:3,4.  It is comprised of "Gentiles".  Rev 11:1,2  
    The Temple of God are the kings of the earth - the anointed priesthood.  (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17)  
    Who rules over, and "represents the royal priesthood"?  Who can disfellowship them?  What entity in the organization  "stands where it does not belong" - above the Temple "living stones"?  Mark 13:14
    WHO have rebelled against God's chosen priestly arrangement, just as Korah did?  
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
  17. Upvote
    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    And how does that Spirit reach uninspired men?  Did Jesus' spirit create the generation doctrine that has repeatedly failed?  Did Jesus send his Holy Spirit to tell men to set aside a date for Armageddon?  Did Jesus' spirit tell the GB they MUST build Ramapo?  Did Jesus' spirit tell the GB to fight for their money and "rights" in a court of law?  Did he tell them to refuse helping victims of child abuse, to disfellowship them instead of hearing them out?  Did Jesus encourage the hiding of child abuse in the organization....for years?  Would he tell the GB that his priests, the members of his body, MUST NOT BOND TOGETHER?  
    No.  Jesus was not interested in developing land, or hoarding money, or devising a doctrine contrary to the word set down in the Bible, so his ministers would not focus on such a thing either.  (Matt 6:19,20)
     
     
     
     
  18. Haha
    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    He is up in heaven - so he sends his Holy Spirit.  Surely you understand this?
  19. Like
    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    I note that @xero and @Pudgy  dislike spiritual conversation. In fact it seems to to upset them. 
    I think that @xero says he is an Elder of a JW congregation. Well it seems strange that he should dislike spiritual conversation then, but no wait, actually it seems quite fitting that he does not like the truth about God and Christ. 
    As for James aka @Pudgy well I think he is sitting on that fence right now, not knowing which way to turn. 
    Remember both of you, there are only two choices. You can serve Almighty God through Jesus Christ, or, you will be serving the Devil. Serving the GB of the JW org is just part of serving the Devil.  Your life, your choice.
  20. Downvote
    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    This is a bit off-topic, but I have discovered a way to silence the sound.
    For reasons I will not mention I heard my Guardian making "motorboat" sounds with his lips and realized that the lips fluttering is what made the motorboat sound.
    The following suggestion however, only works for humans.
    Get a washcloth and cut it in half with scissors.
    Take each half and cut it into four strips (8 strips total).
    Take one strip, and separating the two posterior orbs, place the washcloth strip centered on the gas expulsion orifice.  When you release the orbs the friction will hold the washcloth strip in place, all day, without any thought or maintenance whatsoever.
    Now, the orbs will not vibrate and not make the familiar sound so disconcerting and telling in an office or elevator.
    You may even credibly be able to blame someone else!

  21. Downvote
    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to xero in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    I'm going to have to block this guy. He loves the sound of his own voice and quite frankly it's like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. That makes seven now.
  22. Downvote
    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to xero in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    Dmitar, you are bloviating right now. Why? What are you getting out of it?
  23. Haha
    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    blo·vi·ate /ˈblōvēˌāt/   verb  informal•US gerund or present participle: bloviating talk at length, especially in an inflated or empty way.   When I tell jokes, most of the time I am just entertaining myself. I try to keep them pithy, and SHORT.
    Dimitar asks dozens of questions that no one EVER answers, as it is apparent he also asks them to entertain himself, as they are based on insulting false premises, and irrelevant assumptions.
    I apologise, for answering for him ... perhaps I should have waited for his own  answer. of why he bloviates, which I had to look up, because I thought it had something to do with chronic intestinal gas being expelled at easily discernible volume..
    ....very similar.
     
  24. Haha
    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in The Judgement, our judgement. When and how ?   
    ….. soon enough ….. we will all know.
  25. Confused
    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    The 144,000 are the Body of Christ. They are also the Bride of Christ, also Heavenly Jerusalem. 
    The 144,000 inherit a spirit life with God and Christ in heaven. Christ and the 144,000 will rule over the Earth. BUT I do not know if they will always be in heaven, or if they, like the Angels, will visit Earth at  times. 
    The Greek scriptures are written to the Anointed Ones, so that the Anointed ones can guide the Earthly class.  The deeper things of the scriptures are meant to be understood by the Anointed because Almighty God will send His Holy Spirit to those True Anointed ones. 
    Jesus did speak to ALL the people BUT, read this scripture below. 
    Mark 4 : 34 Berean Study Bible
    "He did not tell them anything without using a parable. But privately He explained everything to His own disciples."
    And privately Jesus will explain everything to the True Anointed ones, so that those True Anointed ones will guide the Earthly ones that are willing to listen. 
    Zechariah 8:23 
    Berean Study Bible
    This is what the LORD of Hosts says: “In those days ten men from the nations of every tongue will tightly grasp the robe of a Jew, saying, ‘Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.’ 
    The 'ten men' are the Earthly class, and the 'Jew' is the True Anointed Ones. 
    The Governing Body of JW Org pretend to be anointed, but by their actions and words they prove themselves false.
    I have explained above that Jesus did speak to 'regular sinners' / Israelites, but he explained 'everything' to His chosen disciples. 
    Add to this that, Luke 12 : 48 
    Berean Study Bible
    But the one who unknowingly does things worthy of punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and from him who has been entrusted with much, even more will be demanded.
    The True Anointed are 'given much' and have been 'entrusted with much', so from this True Anointed much more will be demanded back.
    I hope these scriptures help you to understand my thoughts and I hope you can see why I believe the True Anointed will soon be seen. The True Anointed will not domineer the Earthly class, but they will guide people to serve God through Jesus Christ. 
     
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Service Confirmation Terms of Use Privacy Policy Guidelines We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.