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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Matthew9969 in The Good News of God's Kingdom... News Alert!   
    You can have my lunch, looks like I won't be needing it.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Matthew9969 in The Good News of God's Kingdom... News Alert!   
    How thoughtful of you, your trying to save me money on my car insurance:p
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to BroRando in The Good News of God's Kingdom... News Alert!   
    Maybe you should apply those things to yourself? 

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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Witness in The Good News of God's Kingdom... News Alert!   
    Indeed, and that just shows you where the Governing Body of the Watchtower/JW org are. 
    The GB and many JWs, especially Elders are Sexually Immoral, they 'murder' people spiritually, they idolize the JW Org, and they love and practice lying.  
    You seem to fit in there very nicely Rambo. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to kmanning in The JW.Org Forum   
    Hi, That's okay. I did noticed that it said "Closed Club" and I wondered if it was still possible to join. Thanks for your help.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to BroRando in The Good News of God's Kingdom... News Alert!   
    It proves that less and less deserving ones are refusing to come into our inner rooms from the outside. 
    “Into whatever city or village you enter, search out who in it is deserving, and stay there until you leave." Matthew 10:11 Outside are the dogs and those who practice spiritism and those who are sexually immoral and the murderers and the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices lying.’ Revelation 22:15 These very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting destruction from before the Lord and from the glory of his strength, 2 Thessalonians 1:9 Go, my people, enter your inner rooms, And shut your doors behind you. Hide yourself for a brief moment Until the wrath has passed by. Isaiah 26:20
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Pudgy in How did WTJWorg continue to stir up feelings about Armageddon in 1941?   
    The CCJW Organisation has cried Wolf so many times that they have made themselves look stupid. They have also lost the real meaning of ungency because they keep making false predictions. Of course if you cry Wolf enough times then eventually you will be right, but that is not what God or Christ wants. It seems to show selfishness on their part to want Armageddon to happen just because THEY feel safe. But they make a mockery of God and Christ and also of God's Holy Scriptures.  Now, if they think they are the F&DS, they should show humility and say "We do not know when the Judgement will be".  But instead they preach fear and division. Pushing more and more JWs out. 
    I do know how people survive inside the CCJW. It's by not believing the GB's words and not doing the will of the GB or the Elders. Physically in, mentally out, they say. But in truth it's Spiritually out that helps them survive.  For instance those people that didn't obey the Leaders in the late 1960's / early 70's were the ones that survived. 
    Thank you @Srecko Sostar for this information. It's very interesting to read and shows how the 'Org' has not been guided by God's Holy Spirit. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in The Big Villain   
    I am truly impressed by the time it must take to compose these bible book length epistles.
    I wish I had the time to reply, point by point .... but I do not.
    .... and like Witness, his/her long tomes, and my long replies would not be any influence whatsoever on anyone .... and we have a decade of Archive commentary ... tens of thousands of comments ....  to abundantly confirm that point.
    I suspect that each and every one here, addicted to such things, on our death beds ... perhaps surrounded by people we are about to forever leave behind, will look up, and with tears in their eyes, and tears in our eyes, with our last breath before the blackness closes in forever, and we can move no more, will raise our feeble fingers and attempt to check our e-mail.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in The Big Villain   
    From the book, “Judgment Day Must Wait”, by Poul Bregninge, comes this comment from an active elder at the time of his interview:      
    “For me it is the organization itself that is the big villain.  It has quietly, through 125 years, had its own independent life.  In its pure youth, we could perhaps connect the activities with a degree of sincerity, but it has since grown too big and strong, and all humility is gone.  It has been immensely self-satisfied and even forgotten to serve its supporters.  Instead, it sits on a throne, from which it requires unconditional obedience of its often fanatically loyal subjects.  Most Jehovah’s Witnesses have quietly become accustomed to it, and they do not even see it.  I still have a strong belief in God and I am indignant at the fact that an organization has put itself in God’s place and can get away with it.  It is tragic!  You can secretly hope that God will open people’s eyes, but he seems sadly silent.  Yet the organization is alive and well.  There are plenty of members who willingly support it and bring it nourishment; it’s really an excellent system in that respect.  The Witnesses slave away for it their entire lives, without getting especially much in return, and the organization just shows more and more greed.  But as long as its leaders can maintain the illusion that they are installed by God, as Jehovah’s “channel”, it works, apparently”. 
    Unless this elder has come to realize it since his comment was written on paper, he has described the “man of lawlessness” that has risen over the years, and taken its “throne”, its “seat”, in the Temple of God.  It has replaced His anointed priesthood, with the elder body. (2 Chron 23:6,7) This “big villain” was prophesied to trample down God’s priests, the “living stones” and dwelling of His spirit. (Num 18:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22) (Dan 7:7,8,21; Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:4; Rev 11:1,2)
    It has cast God’s laws in Christ aside, disregarding the reverence of the Body of Christ  - His spiritual Temple.   (Neh 1:7; 9:26; Lev 19:30; 1 Cor 3:16,17; 1 Cor 12:12,27; Eph 4:11-13)
    It is one of three villains or “Beasts” to “make war with the saints”, God’s holy people under covenant, through the practice of deceit.  (Luke 22:31; Matt 24:24,25; 1 Tim 4:1; Col 2:8; Rev 13:1,2,7,10-15; 16:13-16; 20:7,8; 12:3,4,15,17)
    2 Thess 2:1-4 – “Now we ask you, brothers and sisters, regarding the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, 2 that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit, or a message, or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. 3 No one is to deceive you in any way! For it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.”
    In the shadow of 1914, known as the “day of the Lord”, the “man of lawlessness” thrives in the praise it receives from those “marked” as its slaves.  (Rom 6:16; 1 Cor 7:23; Gal 1:10; 2 Pet 2:19; Rev 13:16,17)
    It is the machinery, the inner workings of the organization depicted in the “Gentile” elder body. Its image as spirit-directed, requires “worship” and full obedience, in exchange for protection and salvation.  (Exod 20:3,4; Rom 1:25; Rev 13:15,16,4; Judges 10:14; 1 Thess 5:3)
    He is a rare elder indeed, to recognize that the organization has “put itself in God’s place”. (Exod 23:13; Hos 4:12; Isa 46:5)
    However, it has been guided to accomplish this, through its governing leaders.  (Eccl 5:8; Dan 11:31,36-38; 8:11,24;Luke 22:25-27; Matt 24:48,49; Rev 8:10,11; 13:12; 9:1-4,7,8; 12:17; 9:9; Joel 1:4-6; Rev 17:3)
     
    Pearl Doxsey -
    Clearly, it is the chosen priests who are to "re-adjust" sinners in a spirit of gentleness. This is their job as symbolic incense burners within God's Temple of anointed (1 Cor 3:16).
    So we see that the symbolic prophecies in Ezekiel regarding the "elders of Israel" burning incense within the temple, is certainly considered by God as an abomination, as well as the rebellion of the governing priests who dare to place them there (Ezek 43:6-9; 2 Chron 13:9).

    This offense is alive and well today, as the governing body of the Watchtower has arranged for not - anointed elders to usurp God's chosen priests, perform their exclusive duties, and throw out any of them that protest this abominable disrespect toward God and His Holy Temple. (Heb 12:22-25,21,28,29; 1 Cor 3:17)
    The Disgusting Thing
     
    If the elder only understood that his ability to “see” the organization for what it is, an idol and an enemy particularly against the anointed, (Rev 13:7; 20:9) he may perceive that it is by the grace of God that our eyes are opened to both the deceit and the idolatry practiced in the organization. (Isa 42:5-9) Perhaps he may then discern that God is listening to the prayers of those who question the false authority, of not only the Wild Beast from the Sea, but that of the Beast/false prophet that directs it. (Rev 13: 11-14) When God’s ancient nation of Israel sinned against His commandments, He removed His protection, allowing them to suffer the consequences of their choices, but not without warning them beforehand, of these consequences. (Neh 1:5-9; 2 Thess 2:9,10; Rev 13:8)
    Upon their frequent fall into sin, including abominations against His sanctuary, God’s prophets declared the need for Israel’s repentance. (Ps 74:1-3) Always, only a remnant submitted to repentance, turned away from their idols, and returned to God.  (Neh 9:13,26, 16-18,27; Lev 26:38,44; Isa 10:22; Zech 13:9; Rev 9:18; 11:3,7;13:15; Rev 12:11; 9:20,21)
    God has been patient with us. (Neh 9:30,31,33)  He hears the outcries of those oppressed, who are held spiritually captive to lies. (Ps 74:21)  (Col 2:8; Rev 13:10; Ps 10:12; 72:4; 146:7-9; Matt 17:11; Mal 4:5,6; 3:1-3)
    The Father and Jesus are responding to the repentant hearts who desire to know truth, by healing their spiritual blindness. (Deut 32:36; Isa 49:24,25; Luke 4:18; Rev 2:20; 3:18; John 9:6)
    Jesus is right here to lead us to the bountiful Marriage Feast – of feast of truth. (Isa 55:1,2; John 6:35; 14:6; Matt 22:8-10; Rev 22:17)
     The earth already shakes with the voice of God in judgment against these villains, through His servants Jesus sends. (Neh 9:29; Matt 13:41-43; Heb 12:25-27; Rev 11:1-3;6:7;22:12-16) 
    Soon, this judgment through God’s word, will culminate with their end.  (Eccl 3:17; Neh 9:34,35; Isa 42:1-4; Dan 7:21,22,11; 2 Thess 2:8,9; Rev 19:20; 20:10,15; Jer 23:29) (Rev 18:4-8; 10:5-7) 
    Christ's Return - When?
     

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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in Questions From Readers ● Second Peter 3:10 says: “Jehovah’s day will come as a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a hissing noise, but the elements being intensely hot will be dissolved, and earth and the works in it will be discovered.”   
    If Jehovah can protect three faithful Hebrew men in a raging blast furnace at perhaps 1800 degrees, it serves as a good example of angelic protection FOR INDIVIDUALS, as hydrogen bombs abound.
    In the parlance of Star Trek "Shields are holding at 100%".
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to BroRando in The Good News of God's Kingdom... News Alert!   
    It will be in the near future as our preaching work comes to its end.  Jehovah's Witnesses will not always be witnessing to those in (2 Timothy 3:1-5).  We will soon turn away from those...who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus as they die the second death. (2 Thess 1:8)
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to JW Insider in The Good News of God's Kingdom... News Alert!   
    Not babies, per se. Only when they are becoming "publishers." But it is true that this is where most of the newly baptized ones come from.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in The Good News of God's Kingdom... News Alert!   
    Used cardboard boxes are bought and sold by weight ... we buy em dry, hose em down, and sell em.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in The Good News of God's Kingdom... News Alert!   
    As a two-dimensional cartoon dog, I am not saved, but thanks to "Pudgycoin", which has massive global investments in wet cardboard boxes, I am well invested.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to BroRando in The Good News of God's Kingdom... News Alert!   
    You're not saved.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to BroRando in The Good News of God's Kingdom... News Alert!   
    Think about it. Everything I stated got what type of reaction from those who don't want to hear the Good News about God's Kingdom.  The earth is being pummeled by pestilences and plagues, yet people are more blind and deaf to the Good News, now more then ever. 

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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to JW Insider in The Good News of God's Kingdom... News Alert!   
    This might often be true. But more often it brings a polite "no thank you" from those who don't want to listen. The proportion of countries where there is outright persecution and banning of our work has actually improved. In most countries of the world the reaction to our message is non-violent, even peaceful. And sometimes, it is obviously still quite enthusiastically positive. The 8.6 million plus publishers in 2019 conducted 9.6 million Bible Studies, and 300,000 new ones were baptized. That's nearly a third of a million new persons. And shows that on average there was more than one Bible Study conducted per publisher.
    Of course, you picked the numbers from 2020 which dropped from 2019. @Witness already pointed out that they actually dropped .6% (which is based on the average monthly publishers, not just the "peak" which you quoted above). But the bigger drop from 2019 to 2020 was the number of Bible Studies which dropped 20%.
    2019: Average Bible Studies * Each Month: 9,618,182 2020: Average Bible Studies * Each Month: 7,705,765 They dropped by nearly TWO MILLION in one year! (Partly because we were asked not to keep studying with persons if there was no apparent progress.) But notice that they weren't replaced by new studies, so that the average is now much less than one Bible Study per publisher.
    Also note the number of new ones baptized also dropped by 20%:
    2019: Total Number Baptized *: 303,866 2020: Total Number Baptized *: 241,994 And unfortunately, this also means that over 300,000 persons left the Witnesses between 2019 and 2020 for there to still be a decrease even though so many were baptized. Some leave by death or disfellowshipping, but the vast majority of these 300,000 must have decided to leave.
    And the 2021 numbers are already in, and the Society was not able to report an increase in publishers this year, except in a few individual branches.
    This also means that there is no need for additional congregations, so I'm guessing that the number will continue to remain about the same, or more likely decrease. I wouldn't look for a 20% increase in congregations to 144,000 even though you think that number of congregations is somehow significant. Anecdotally, I already heard about a couple special language congregations (New York and Los Angeles) that are being dropped and reverting to their original congregations.
    You are telling people that this system will go on for another 20 years, which is very unfaithful and indiscreet in light of Jesus' warning that the end could come at any time, as if without warning, like a thief in the night.
    The response appears to be diminishing, but wasn't your original point about how violent and hostile we can expect the response to be?
    There is nothing about this in the Bible. Paul wasn't speaking of an outbreak resulting in a proclamation, he was just agreeing with 2 Peter 3:3 that there have been ridiculers since the first century saying they don't believe this parousia is coming because they can still talk about the relative peace and security that allows them to eat, drink, get married, etc. Adding to the Bible that we should wait for a proclamation by political kings shows a lack of discretion and a lack of discernment. Remember that Jesus, too, spoke of the time coming as a time of relative peace and security when he compared it to a time when you might be asleep in your house, or working in a field, or grinding at a mill, or doing any of the things that people were doing in Noah's day or in Sodom when the end came, essentially without warning.
    Just like Jesus, both Paul and Peter added that it would come "as a thief in the night." This way, no one would get the impression that we should look for some "proclamation by political kings" of peace and security. (Nor wait for some specific proclamation by ridiculers that "things are going on [peacefully and securely] just as from creation's beginning.")
    For the same reason, there can be no specific time when any of us (GB included) can declare in advance that it is now time for a "final message of divine destruction." That would only show a level of presumptuousness and indiscretion. It would make us wise in our own eyes, and completely unfaithful to Jesus' words that "no one knows the day or the hour" because "it will come as a thief in the night."
    Ah! Something we can agree on! 😊
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in The Good News of God's Kingdom... News Alert!   
    Percentage of Increase Over 2019: -0.6    
          2020 Service Year Report of Jehovah’s Witnesses Worldwide
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to xero in The Good News of God's Kingdom... News Alert!   
    So where can I get a T-Shirt or bumper-sticker, plus do you have any coupon codes I can use for some sick merch?
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Can a Person Resign From Being One of Jehovah’s Witnesses?   
    Cheapest on ebay UK is 46 GBP and that might be an old one.  To read the words of an Ex JW.    I think there is enough info' on here and in the news.
    If it were 10 GBP I might be interested but I haven't even read Josephus or 'The Early Church' yet. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Can a Person Resign From Being One of Jehovah’s Witnesses?   
    Billy Rambo you are such a fake .  But Jesus will judge you and Jesus will judge me. I would think that He is not happy with either of us. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in God's Sacred and Holy Name...   
    Well I can see I haven't missed much here  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    So it seems that SM is against even watching world events on MSM. He is against being able to quickly see countries that have floods, volcanos, eathquakes, wars, et al. 
    Perhaps SM wants to control people's minds. Perhaps he think he is the only one that has true information. 
    For everyone that mentions any world news, it seesm SM know more or better. SM is a Truther. Is it only them that know truth ?  I don't think so SM. 
    I'm not interested in 'left' or 'right' wing. I'm not interested in what people want to call other people or compare other people to. It just seems so childish that you have to A, group people together, B, compare people to villians. 
    Can you not just see each person as an individual ?  Each of us here. Do you need to compare us to others ? 
    I am an individual. I have no interest in politics. I am not right or left wing. I do not support any type of wordly government.
    But i know you will continue to compare me to others, because it seems that is all you can do. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in Pestilences... part of the Composite Sign of Jesus Christ Presence in Kingdom Glory.   
    Now when he was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, he answered them and said, “The kingdom of God does not come with things that can be observed"     Luke 17:20
    "with observation".  You are observing the physical easy to SEE, signs.  
     
     Rev. 6:8 - "And I looked, and behold, a pale green horse, and the one seated on it was named Death, and Hades followed after him. And authority was granted to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill by the sword and by famine and by pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth."
    Sword - God's inspired word.  Eph 6:7; Heb 4:12  
    Famine - the absence of spiritual food.   Amos 8:11 - Look, the days are coming,” declares my Lord Yahweh, “when I will send a famine in the land, not a famine for bread and not a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of Yahweh!"
    Pestilence - that word represents "death".  Without the food that Christ provides, we die.  John 6:51
    None of the signs of the end will be literally "observed" as declaring the coming of the Kingdom of God.  They must be spiritually discerned as Jesus said.  Satan's world provides the literal. 1 John 5:19  And the Kingdom will not be born from whatever happens in his unclean world, whatever show Satan will distract us with.  Job 14:4
     nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”  Luke 17:21
    "So he answered and said to them, “When evening comes you say, ‘It will be fair weather because the sky is red,’ 3 and early in the morning, ‘Today it will be stormy weather, because the sky is red and darkening.’ You know how to evaluate correctly the appearance of the sky, but you are not able to evaluate the signs of the times. 4 An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, and a sign will not be given to it except the sign of Jonah!” And he left them and went away."  Matt 16:2-4
    Any of us can "evaluate" what's happening in the world as  earthquakes, wars, famines and pestilences, take place; but only those who are the "spiritual man", have the ability to evaluate the signs of the times.  (1 Cor 2:14)
    A Hidden Famine, A Hidden Feast
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to BroRando in Pestilences... part of the Composite Sign of Jesus Christ Presence in Kingdom Glory.   
    After Jesus Christ summoned his 12 disciples and giving them authority to cure every sort of disease and every sort of infirmity, he revealed to them, "Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword." (Matthew 10:34)
    As distressing as pestilences are, they are part of the Composite Sign of Jesus Christ Presence in Kingdom Glory. (Luke 21:10-11) So the pummeling of pestilences we SEE today, affect everyone living on the earth "Look! He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, and those who pierced him; and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief because of him. Yes, Amen." (Rev 1:7)
    Pestilences were often used in the past to execute divine judgment. However, as the Last Days conclude to their end, the Pestilences and Plagues will no longer be directed against all the tribes of the earth. Soon, the pestilences will only affect those who refuse to know Jehovah God and are disobedient to the good news of Jesus Christ. "This takes into account that it is righteous on God’s part to repay tribulation to those who make tribulation for you." (2 Thessalonians 1:6)
    This is Really Good News for the obedient and the faithful in rejoicing, for Jesus adds the words: “But as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift your heads up, because your deliverance is getting near.” (Luke 21:28)
    As new pestilence and plagues become a common place in this last hour of this system of things, Jehovah Witnesses look forward to the end of Satan's System of things. These viruses are severely contagious which affect how we conduct our Bible Studies, the preaching work, and even Baptizing New Christian Believers. Such adjustments are welcomed and we look forward to a Bright Future as this gloomy system of things come to its end. For those on the outside of our inner rooms, the wicked will soon be swallwwed up by the second death as they start dying off. (Rev 22:15)
    The removal of the wicked will be a day of relief for those who have the work of bearing witness of Jehovah and his Anointed One Jesus Christ. Therefore, as the last Days come to their end, there will be no need to witness to those dying off. Those who have God's Name on them will keep on living into Christ's Millinieal Reign where they will find exquisite delight. (Pslams 37:10-11)
     
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