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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in Bearing Witness to Almighty God, Jesus Christ, and God's Kingdom.   
    Well, God wouldn't be interested in say, a Buddhist Temple, since His people are not involved with one.  But, I do admit that He is very interested in a counterfeit temple found in the same realm where His people are.  And this one, will face destruction because His people are idolizing it - "Jehovah's earthly organization", "Zion".  
    Rev 13:1-4
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in Bearing Witness to Almighty God, Jesus Christ, and God's Kingdom.   
    Isn't it amazing that they have to say that the man of lawlessness "sits" in a counterfeit temple, and is Christendom.  Do JWs check God's word to verify this?  NO! They keep gulping down the lie. THEY DON'T CARE.  How can "God's Temple", or "the temple of God" as 2 Thess 2:4 calls it, be defined as a counterfeit temple?  What does God think about that?   And what about Rev. 11:1,2?
    "Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. [a]And the angel stood, saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months".
    These scripture reiterate that...
    #1 - the "man of lawlessness" made up of "Gentiles",  "sits" in God's Temple
    #2 - the "Gentile" times are NOT over
    #3 - the Temple of God are the anointed priests and dwelling of His Holy Spirit. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)
    #4 - The only people or nation that can "sit" in the Temple of God, which the anointed priests are members of, are those who replaced them as priests, and those who can rule over them.  The elder body. 
    Thus,
    #5 - The elder body is the "man of lawlessness", "standing where it should not"  (Mark 13:14) If the "abomination that causes desolation", which is the "man of lawlessness", was standing/sitting in a counterfeit temple, would it matter where it was found? God wouldn't be interested in a counterfeit temple. What does that have to do with His people?   His focus is on His own dwelling in spirit, in the hearts of the anointed.  (2 Cor 6:16)
    #6 -  The position of the elders as representing the priesthood "cannot be challenged".  Such an arrogant, high-sounding statement, isn't it!
    “His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation. 32 With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him.
    “The king will do as he pleases. He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard-of things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been determined must take place. "  Dan 11:31,32,36
    "He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God."  2 Thess 2:4
     The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6 It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7 It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation.  Rev 13:5-7
     
    Elders, you need to get of there. You, and all JWs need to FLEE.  Matt 24:15,16.   I fear the day when blind JWs will have their eyes finally opened to the identity of the man of lawlessness.  
     
     
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Jehovah's Witness Man wanted for multiple sexual assaults of children in San Diego County found dead in South Carolina. Nov 19th 2021   
    https://www.10news.com/news/local-news/san-diego-news/man-wanted-for-multiple-sexual-assaults-of-a-child-in-san-diego-county-found-dead-in-south-carolina
    SAN DIEGO (KGTV) — The body of a man wanted by San Diego authorities on multiple counts of sexual assault on a child was found in South Carolina.
    According to U.S. Marshals, the decomposing body of Frederick Cecil McLean was discovered on November 6 by a neighbor in Seneca, South Carolina.
    Authorities said McLean was one of America’s 15 most wanted fugitives. He had been on the run for more than 16 years.
    U.S. Marshals said he had been molesting young females for about 25 years with at least eight victims.
    He was a Jehovah's Witness and would target people met at church.
    Authorities said McLean was one of America’s 15 most wanted fugitives. He had been on the run for more than 16 years.
    Full article available on link at top.
    It's like @Witness said we don't keep reminding ourselves, but it's all over the news constantly. 
    JW organisation is like a white washed grave, full of disgusting things. 
    If he had been on the run that long, then CSA was obvioulsy being dealt with by the Law. So why didn't someone give details of his location to the Police. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Matthew9969 in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    That totally nails the governing bodies attitude.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    Keep trying xero. You might even be funny one day.  But oh dear, what it takes to hide you conscience xero. 
    But of course Jesus Christ examines hearts. So it's between Him and you. 
    And wow now you've got a second in command  well done tom. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    Great. Just great. Think how THAT will look on his FB page, Brother Sensitive.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to xero in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    Reminds me of the chronic whiners.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in 41 countries ban religion-related groups;   
    They are banned in Muslim countries but they are high on the list of the United nations.  It is one of two groups highly favored by the UN. Both have shrines in the UN building: the theosophists (a spiritistic type religion) and Bahai - which believes that all religions are good!...
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to BroRando in Bearing Witness to Almighty God, Jesus Christ, and God's Kingdom.   
    https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/ebtv/kingdom-began-ruling-1914/
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Kick_Faceinator in Bearing Witness to Almighty God, Jesus Christ, and God's Kingdom.   
    I’ve found tons are. It’s hard to reason with a broken soul that’s been ripped apart mentally by false predictions and false teachers. I have found though, Christ’s words paralleled with Paul’s comforting to some. Matthew 24:48-49 Jesus spoke of a wicked steward (a governing body), who Paul sternly spoke of a specific announcement from these men to not believe, that without a doubt will cause many to be stumbled. (Matthew 24:11)
    It’s 1914. These men would lie saying the day of the lord arrived back then. These men would say the man of lawlessness sits in a counterfeit temple and is Christendom. It is the man of lawlessness who is in the organization and sits in judicial meetings disfellowshipping everyone who questions the governing bodies false predictions. Imagine that, asking questions will get you DF’d. This is without question going to cause many to be stumbled (Matthew 24:11).
    2 Thessalonians 2: Don’t be so easily shaken or alarmed by those who say that the day of the Lord has already begun. Don’t believe them, even if they claim to have had a spiritual vision, a revelation, or a letter supposedly from us." 2 thess 2:2
    "BACK in 1914, Jesus was installed as King of God’s Kingdom, and the Lord’s day began." - w88 10/15 pp. 15-20
    Don’t be fooled by what they [the governing body] say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed—the one who brings destruction. He will exalt himself and defy everything that people call god and every object of worship. He will even sit in the temple of God, claiming that he himself is God.“ 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in Bearing Witness to Almighty God, Jesus Christ, and God's Kingdom.   
    This is when I show them the overwhelming body of work that did come true!   The fact that we are preaching the kingdom as the only solution for human problems in obedience to Matthew 24:14.  This is truly the only solution in a world wherein it is getting more difficult to make decision - critical times hard to deal with when people do not have faith and are fierce!
    The prophecies now coming into fulfillment regarding pestilence on world-wide scale and food shortages in many places.
    One can go into other prophecies - but we do not want to overwhelm them!
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from JW Insider in 41 countries ban religion-related groups;   
    41 countries ban religion-related groups; Jehovah’s Witnesses, Baha’is among the most commonly targeted
    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/11/15/41-countries-ban-religion-related-groups-jehovahs-witnesses-bahais-among-the-most-commonly-targeted/
     
    Government restrictions on religion take many forms around the world. Particularly restrictive governments often limit religious expression by banning certain groups – including entire faiths, social movements or political organizations that have ties to religion.
    In fact, 41 countries – or around a fifth (21%) of those evaluated – banned at least one religion-related group in 2019, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of laws and policies in effect in 198 countries in 2019, the most recent year for which comprehensive data is available. Jehovah’s Witnesses and Baha’is were among the most frequently banned groups.
    The Middle East-North Africa region had the highest share of countries (55%, or 11 out of 20 countries in the region) with bans on religion-related groups in 2019. Asia and the Pacific – the largest region in the study, with 50 nations – had the greatest number of countries with bans (17 out of 50 countries, or 34% of the region). Sub-Saharan Africa had eight countries with bans (representing about 17% of the 48 states in the region), Europe had three (or about 7% of the region’s 45 countries) and the Americas had two nations with such bans in place (representing about 6% of the region’s 35 countries).
    This analysis is based on the Center’s most recent restrictions on religion report, which examines the extent to which governments and societies impinge on religious groups and practices. Data is collected from a wide range of sources, including the U.S. Department of State’s International Religious Freedom reports. For the purposes of this analysis, the term “banned” refers to official prohibitions that prevent a group from legally operating in a country.
    Bible prediction coming true it seems, as world conditions continue to worsen. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Bearing Witness to Almighty God, Jesus Christ, and God's Kingdom.   
    I've just spent maybe an hour bearing witness about God's Kingdom and about Almighty God and Jesus Christ, but I find that many people have been stumbled by the Watchtower / JW Org making false predictions concerning Armageddon. It must be difficult for many people in the world, because we do live in a dishonest world. It also seems funny to me that some folks out there are still preaching 'hellfire'. It's not funny of course, but I suppose I have a wrong sense of humour. 
    How many of you have also found the false JW predictions to have been a stumbling block when trying to teach truth to others ? 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    Who do you think he was answering?
    [hint—who wrote the comment he was responding to?]
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    I would be interested in the interpretation of the JW member, you, what kind of "weapon" is this? 
    Weapons in the form of persecution, imprisonment and killing?
    Weapons in the form of a state's legislation?
    Weapons in the form of doctrinal delusion?
    Or something else?
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    But this is ONLY for servants of Almighty God. NOT for servants of the GB of the Watchtower / JW Org. 
    Enjoy misusing scripture whilst you can. 
    Here's one that concerns you.  Matthew 7 : 21
     Berean Study Bible
    Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
    Many pretend servants of God will be in for a very big shock. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to TrueTomHarley in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    No. It is a viewpoint of a JW Elder (if he is that) concerning you.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to xero in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    "No weapon formed against you will have any success, And you will condemn any tongue that rises up against you in the judgment.This is the heritage of the servants of Jehovah,And their righteousness is from me,” declares Jehovah." -Is 54:17
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in 41 countries ban religion-related groups;   
    41 countries ban religion-related groups; Jehovah’s Witnesses, Baha’is among the most commonly targeted
    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/11/15/41-countries-ban-religion-related-groups-jehovahs-witnesses-bahais-among-the-most-commonly-targeted/
     
    Government restrictions on religion take many forms around the world. Particularly restrictive governments often limit religious expression by banning certain groups – including entire faiths, social movements or political organizations that have ties to religion.
    In fact, 41 countries – or around a fifth (21%) of those evaluated – banned at least one religion-related group in 2019, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of laws and policies in effect in 198 countries in 2019, the most recent year for which comprehensive data is available. Jehovah’s Witnesses and Baha’is were among the most frequently banned groups.
    The Middle East-North Africa region had the highest share of countries (55%, or 11 out of 20 countries in the region) with bans on religion-related groups in 2019. Asia and the Pacific – the largest region in the study, with 50 nations – had the greatest number of countries with bans (17 out of 50 countries, or 34% of the region). Sub-Saharan Africa had eight countries with bans (representing about 17% of the 48 states in the region), Europe had three (or about 7% of the region’s 45 countries) and the Americas had two nations with such bans in place (representing about 6% of the region’s 35 countries).
    This analysis is based on the Center’s most recent restrictions on religion report, which examines the extent to which governments and societies impinge on religious groups and practices. Data is collected from a wide range of sources, including the U.S. Department of State’s International Religious Freedom reports. For the purposes of this analysis, the term “banned” refers to official prohibitions that prevent a group from legally operating in a country.
    Bible prediction coming true it seems, as world conditions continue to worsen. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    And you say that you are an Elder in one of the Jehovah's Witnesses congregation, is that true ? 
    I've never said Almighty God has 'screwed up'.  But the leaders of the Watchtower and JW Org / CCJW et al, have certainly screwed up for the last 90 years. 
    Having members with your attitude certainly shows how JW Elders feel about other people. 
    Thank you. That comment of yours will look lovely on my 'beware of JW' Facebook page. It all helps to prove my point, that the Org cannot be trusted. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Matthew9969 in Latest Info on JW.org Ramapo Audio Video Production Center   
    Oh dear, they are going to now start trying to convert the middle earthers.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    Actually, the press is keeping it alive, the victims of Wt. abuse are keeping it alive.  This isn't something just from @Patiently waiting for Truth's past, it is happening and being reported almost on a weekly basis. No need to pick at scabs when the news is always refreshed.   Many people don't like stuff like this thrown up into their face, for a reason.  I suggest you get use to it.
    And I was thinking how a sexual predator grooms his victim, sometimes over a period of years, as happened in my case. The victim comes to trust the predator, and then the predator swoops in to commit his crime.  From there, threats may be issued. The victim must remain silent, or face serious consequences.  The victim becomes the predator's slave.  
    I thought of this after making my last comment about the need to trust the GB, "because God and Jesus do".  These guys are spiritual, sexual predators.  They win over their victims with smooth words, and it can take years of indoctrination, leading JWs to come to "trust" the GB.  Until something clicks, one too many lies alert the victim that they have been abused by con artists.  They have been cheated of truth in Jesus Christ. (2 Cor 11:3,4,13-15,20)  As can happen, the victim is threatened with loss of family, loss of status in the congregation, loss of God's love if they speak what these "Harlots" have been doing, how they transgressed the victim's personal spiritual relationship with God and Christ.  JWs are victims of spiritual abuse, and most are too "drunk" or too scared, to do anything about it.  (Rev 17:1-5; 18:4-8)
    Harlot and Beast
     
     
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    I do not see your comment as an attempt to prove anything, but as a claim/statement that was directed against @Patiently waiting for Truthway of thinking and feeling.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Matthew9969 in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    Some jw's need to heed this advice when it comes to the catholic church.
    Scars are the battle wounds that prove we are still alive.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to xero in How were JW elders who were really Communist Spies appointed by "Holy Spirit"?   
    I don't have sympathy or empathy for loud mouthed bellyacher's who have to keep whining on and on about stuff like somehow Jehovah screwed up because the world isn't perfect and they stubbed their toe. 
    Michael Mahoney in his book "Self Change" nailed it when he pointed out that ALL PERSONAL PROBLEMS ARE CURRENT. Things that happened years ago only have influence if you keep these things alive. You are working hard at keeping it alive. Stop picking at your scabs.
     
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