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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Space Merchant in Dear Librarian I have a JW neighbour who lets his dog to go out without any supervision. For what I see this dog goes in the streets looking for food. He must not feed him.Isn't this animal cruelty? How he can pretend to be a ministerial servant if he is   
    A remark, was not going off topic, granted some of which was already paraphrased in older responses, hence CSA and what I said earlier. If I wanted to elaborate it into a topic, I would, but I focused on the pertaining comments only, from you.
    On the contrary,
    Jehovah's Witnesses have CSA problems Facebook has CSA problems. No one is immune.  You were told the imperfections of man results in sin, that sin, being abuse towards children as well as animals, or any living soul, mainly if the brazen sin harbors ill intent.
     
    CSA is the same across the board, you said it best, Earthwide. Does not matter the faith, the background, the chosen genre, space, etc. If you want to speak about bindless, we can see you display that, granted the information about the 5k UK kids seemingly fell off your radar, in reference and link. Ironic that you were as quite as a mouse on that, open your eyes, JB.
    The only difference is CSA is complex in detection in the social media space (many, many examples, as pointed out even by UK police), of which Facebook is associated with, likewise, with the various medias birthed by Facebook such as Instagram, Tiktok, etc. Tiktok being infamous for some cases. Social Media's, as is Facebook's predecessor, was no stranger to CSA, granted, a lot of child luring and grooming began.
    For example, Myspace, granted it was already said to you how pedophiles exploit not only groups, but also resources, such as social media, it is not unknown to anyone, they care capable of doing the same - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-397026/How-paedophiles-prey-MySpace-children.html
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/facebook-a-hotbed-of-child-sexual-abuse-material-with-203-million-reports-far-more-than-pornhub
    https://www.phillyvoice.com/social-media-child-predators-parents-pedofiles-internet-facebook-twitter-instagram-hashtags-privacy/
    Sky News - https://news.sky.com/story/facebook-responsible-for-94-of-69-million-child-sex-abuse-images-reported-by-us-tech-firms-12101357
    Hence Red Flags. Abusers exploiting resources, etc.
    Since the inspection of social media, abusers took up the space, granted of gaining access to children without much of an effort compared to schools and churches; even so, they are difficult to detect until you are serious about doing some detective work.
    That said, with what Facebook, even Apple and other Big Tech is doing now, parents and guardians will need to step it up as not only the hackers are getting smart, but the abusers as well.
    This stuff is public. Loudoun County was public, but Wokeism and the Left likes twisting things and censoring people, me included. Everyone knows that child abuse is earthwide, as you said. I don't see why you changed tuned in that regard, granted from other information pertaining to it which one can paraphrase.
    In the Truther Community, this information pops up in all branches, talked about a lot, as of recent Child Abuse and Sex Rings related to the United Nations; even missing children/persons cases, some of which pertains to CSA, be in the US, and even the UK, or elsewhere there are Truthers, even those in connection with Independent Journalists, in which some of us have sources.
    Granted there is too many to count, some of them I usually bring up, even in the thread of which you mocked what we are doing.
    Pedophiles uses Facebook as a tool. Will 3 months of research change your mind? Clearly not. Therefore, I agree with Anna's remark.
    I do not need to look if the information is public, as well as sent forth. A link in regards to the UK was just presented to you, which you ignored.
    Because there are people out there that are taking action in regards to CSA in some way shape or form, even doing what it needed to prevent more victims. You should know I have been doing this every time the subject of CSA comes forward, likewise with missing persons.
    At times I do not need to look for it if the community pushes it, as is, with what can be done to help if such is even within a locality.
    Solutions were even presented, and in that span of time, clearly you didn't apply or did anything.
    It pops up on independent sources and various communities and or groups, i.e. IICSA, ARC, etc. Even those who, which I attest to, outside of the paradigm.
    Because you are clearly of the unaware, and of no community.
    You favor Sky news do you not? You can see that. BBC? You did post such before, which was public, granted they are both in the paradigm.
    And clearly that isn't the case hence what I said for months, years here. Assumptions only make you look silly, JB. But what more to deviate from the fact the very tool you use is also in the hands of abusers who can exploit anything they touch for ill intent, effectively putting both people and animals at risk, and the unaware are always unaware of this notation.
    The point was already address. If a child goes missing and or anything pertaining to CSA, Truthers and Independent Journalist inform those in their community, I do not have to do much, I am just send the info to do what I can, mainly due to the fact of my history. You mock a community, yet you do not know how they operate, FYI, one instance, we found among ExJWs, let that sink in. This is also how I was aware of the IICSA situation with Theresa May, and when I asked you, granted you follow IICSA heavy, you didn't know what I was referring to.
    That being said, it can be seen here regardless of what you said to Anna in the past, should it pertain to something else, you defend with deviation and no truthfulness.
    Continue to consume Wokeism on the social platform and be unaware, for those who are aware knows the dangers and are awake in this sense when it comes to animals, women, even children.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in THE THIEF   
    I think the GB have a big shock coming. But if there is another ten years left then we might just have to wait a while for Jesus Christ to take action against the GB and Co. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Witness in THE THIEF   
    I think the GB have a big shock coming. But if there is another ten years left then we might just have to wait a while for Jesus Christ to take action against the GB and Co. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Space Merchant in Dear Librarian I have a JW neighbour who lets his dog to go out without any supervision. For what I see this dog goes in the streets looking for food. He must not feed him.Isn't this animal cruelty? How he can pretend to be a ministerial servant if he is   
    Perhaps because he isn't dense, likewise with others who ahs taken issue with you. I guess for good reason due to the last racial situation in which admin got involved; hence why some of the call backs, was from that thread.
    Animal and Child abuse isn't rubbish. A blind man who cannot see the folly in his tool let alone his own contradicting statements is problematic. 
    You are the last person to speak of truth regarding social media. The fact you deem it real and got tricked by the woke shows evident to that.
    If I am blind, why was I aware of the CSA issue and Animal abuse issue on Facebook? A woman was killed the other day, guess how.
    And? I have not misquote you, I paraphrased majority of what you profess concerning CSA. Your own word when used with Facebook instead, you could not really do much to speak on the matter.
    Who are about the Watchtower, but the fact you keep going to them like a toddler to his mother to deviate from the Facebook mantra speaks volume. Animal and Child abuse is Hellish on social media, how can you be this blind to such a thing of the tool you use? No 3 months research I bet.
    Next time do not throw things into a topic. Because there will be things said of which you do not have the checks to cash, yet again.
    On the contrary, the rule of thumb applies even in the UK, in some parts, not all. This can be said in rural like areas, and the like. This also plays into the fact that in the UK, under law, animals are viewed as sentient beings, in the same footing as humans, so to speak.
    However, cruelty, still is an issue there, be in on the streets or online pertaining to the UK.
    Not exactly, that is half correct, hence what was mentioned earlier on.
     
    EDIT: You can dislike all you want, it will not deter the fact of what you convey. A bit sad, if I may add.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in THE THIEF   
    Some people here will say the history of the organization and its failed teachings, matters not.  But, obviously, the present GB select tidbits from it, to support its present mission. More than tidbits actually, they have developed their history museum at Bethel.  I hope you peel back the layers of Wt's history, to see conclusive evidence that Jesus has never "inspired" an organization or its people, who rely on earthly currency, fleshly pursuits, and the physical labor of men...nor has God. (Matt 6:19; Phil 3:18,19; James 3:14,15; 2 Cor 11:20; Gal 1:10)   Its inspiration comes from another spirit. (Matt 24:24; 1 Tim 4:1) Paul said, as did Stephen who was stoned, that God does not live in temples made with hands".  (Acts 7:48-50; 17:24)  
    Despite A. Morris' desire and determined positive stance that the "mountain-like organization" will sail through Armageddon in one piece, it will not happen.  (Zech 4:6,7; Rev 8:8,9; 18:4-8)
     
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in THE THIEF   
    The statement from the quoted WT article is very clear and specific. But still it is not strong enough to refute reality. And not just the reality of 1919 and the years after. This article from WT was written, as far as I can see, in 2019. Despite the fact that the entire past of WTJWorg is better seen from 2019, the author unfortunately maintains that Jesus purified WTJWorg in those 5 years, and that he left a pure organization for the future. That future encompasses the present. And what is the present? The present argues that most of WTJWorg’s doctrine and theology, as well as the practice that results from the theoretical teaching of members, has been affected, and still is, by tremendous changes in “knowledge and truth”.
    Several things can be concluded from this:
    - that Jesus was not visiting WTJWorg in 1914-1919
    -that Jesus did a bad job or had bad disciples
    -that WTJWorg subsequently ignored the changes that Jesus made
    -that WTJWorg considered the changes of 1914-1919 obsolete and inaccurate and changed them on its own in the coming decades 
    If “The testing and refinement of God’s people, foretold at Malachi 3: 1-4, was complete.” in the 1914-1919 period, then the mantra that WTJWorg has been trading for decades (the light is shining more and more clearly) is completely wrong. The light shone, supposedly 1914-1919, from Jesus himself. So what more improvements and clarifications should there be after Jesus ’personal conclusion ??
    Lies and only more lies comes from WTJWorg.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in THE THIEF   
    Wt 2019/10/5 page 5 – “By the end of 1919, Jehovah’s people were reorganized and energized. Additionally, several important prophecies involving the last days had been fulfilled. The testing and refinement of God’s people, foretold at Malachi 3:1-4, was complete.”
    What were those prophecies fulfilled?
    "Jehovah’s people had been released from their symbolic captivity to 'Babylon the Great,' and Jesus had appointed  'the faithful and discreet slave.'
    This slave, which I understand was Russel, would have been “faithful” to the doctrines of Jesus only, and not to those of men. (Mark 7:6,7)  He would have been “discreet” (meaning “intelligent, wise”) about what was taught, don’t you think? 
    Gal 1:6-9 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Gal+1%3A6-9&version=NASB
    Yet, Russell’s self-motivated works are not taught world-wide today; whereas the apostles' teachings, are. His books are not used by your own organization.  You know what is rather amazing about this?  Your leadership says, there was no “faithful and discreet slave” in the first century!  What did Jesus call those then, who were “faithful” until death, preaching his word throughout the area of the world they knew?  If they were faithful to the word of God, they were found “intelligent, wise” in God’s truth, before their Master.  (Luke 19:11-27; Rev 17:14)
    “But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.”  John 16:13
    That is also interesting, isn’t it?  Your past and present leadership keep getting “what is to come”, wrong! Jesus said that is a sign that they are not part of him, not part of the vine of Christ and recipients of the Spirit of truth.  Their “fruit” does not prove they are Christ’s disciples.  (John 15:1-8,16)
    What were the many “prophecies” after that, that Rutherford made which weren’t fulfilled?  Any JW can research this online; and they should ,without fear.
    Mal 3:3 (from the quote above) – “And He will sit as a smelter and purifier of silver, and He will purify the sons of Levi and refine them like gold and silver, so that they may present to the Lord offerings in righteousness.”
    From 1914 to 1919, Jesus apparently came to his Temple - to his anointed living stones (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16) which included Rutherford, if he was anointed. The Wt is saying that from among all of the anointed, he cleaned out, removed, those who would create stumbling blocks against the truth -  his truth, God's truth. This would be anything spoken by an anointed one,  that defiled his teachings. The stumbling blocks would be created by men, who call them, truth. Their hearts and desires were analyzed - measured, according to scriptures - according to the word of God. (Zech 4:8-10; Amos 7:7,8; Rev 11:1,2) (Isa 43:21; 1 Pet 2:9; 1 Cor 3:10)  They would have been refined from all false teachings as Mal 3:1-4 states.  
     In 1921, Rutherford published the book, “Harp of God” which the GB member David Splane spoke about at the annual meeting. He built that book up, practically putting it on a pedestal.  How? Not by what was stated inside its cover, but by saying over 6 million of copies had been circulated.  This book was to “make it easier for people to come into the truth”, a “simple” book.     If this book was so wonderful, truthful, and easy to learn from, why is it not on your website?   Have you read this book? Have you noticed its lies that are discarded by the organization today?  This book was a spiritual plague that did not bring people into the truth, but brought people into captivity to men, and their selfish motives to produce what their hearts desired.  (Jer 23:16; Luke 6:45; Matt 7:15-20; 1 John 4:1; 1 Tim 4:1; 2 Cor 11:13-15)
    If Christ came and cleansed his living Temple ( 2 Cor 6:16) of all defilement between 1914-1919, does that not include lies that contradict his word?  Have you considered how these men came to the conclusion that it took Jesus 5 years to cleanse the temple? Where is the scriptural proof?   And did he overlook the heart of Rutherford, by allowing him to teach lies? (John 2:25; 1:1; Heb 4:12) Are Rutherford's lies excused, yet Christendom’s lies condemned?
    The Harp of God, along with many others, is far from an ‘offering in righteousness”. 
    Do JWs understand what “truth” is, and what “righteousness” in the sight of God, is?  (2 Thess 2:9-12)
    Is this “truth”…?
    “ In 1831 the first locomotive steam engine was invented. Such wonderful progress has been made in this regard that now one can travel through almost any part of the earth at a rapid rate upon a railway train. Later came the electric engines and electric motor cars and gas engines; and now there is a tremendous amount of travel in every part of the earth. It is no uncommon thing for one to travel at the rate of 75 and 100 miles per hour; and particularly is this true by means of a flying machine, which is a very modern invention.  God’s Prophet designates this same time as “the day of God’s preparation”. In Nahum 2:1-6 the Prophet records his vision of a railway train traveling at a high rate of speed, as another evidence of the day of preparation for the establishment of Christ’s kingdom.” P. 124  Harp of God
    We either strive to understand and come to love the word of God in Christ, or we prefer the empty, worthless words of men, such as found in publications continually discarded by your leadership.   Although the organization judges an individual as worthy or unworthy of God's Spirit based on man's word - doctrine, Jesus said, "The one who rejects me and does not accept my teachings has one who judges him: the word which I spoke. That will judge him on the last day."   John 12:48
     
     
     
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Space Merchant in Video Games anyone?   
    You evidently will. If a meme could get a reaction, I would not be surprise if something took place in, let's say London.
    Unfortunately you are. You considered a platform real, and even more, the situation with NYT raises question.
    No, the Internet is like that of a city, during the day it is different, and during the night it is different, as is for it's which is forever constant and remains stuck in time, is the Dark Internet otherwise known as the Dark Web. Bad stuff take place, more often at night or in the Dark Web.
    The internet also allows people to show their true colors in some instances, as is people pretending to be of the opposite sex, i.e. EdgeLord164 who has a female for a picture is a G.uy I.n R.eal L.ife.
    It also opens the door, since the early 00s for political blood sport.
    Likewise with social media, which to this day still has issues. And with the situation with Section 230 and a list of things, an even bigger problem will come forth around the globe.
    You're just someone during the day and not in the Dark Web. But it would not be much of a surprise if someone of the night has your information. I am going to take a strong guess you do not use 2FA.
    But during the day, you can easily land in the realm of the Woke, otherwise known as the Cult of the Woke.
    No one is safe on the internet. The fact you didn't heed warning, chances are your information is somewhat compromised.
    I invite you to check yourself out  - https://haveibeenpwned.com/
    If you can lock your door at night, or your car, surely you can do the same with your information, but many people are unaware of the underbelly of the internet and all things pertaining to it.

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    Being old and wise is irrelevant to the internet and what can take place, what can happen. As is, with what you view which is highly Left or Right leaning in some cases, or Wokeism. Being wise enables one to not be tricked by these things. But that remains to me seen.
    There are things you deviate from when asked, for if you were to meet me or perhaps @JW Insider for example, you would be in a position that you would not be able to answer. This goes as far back as my debater remark. In my case, I have done debates in persons and how I speak on here is exactly how I am in a debate. Early on however, I was a novice when it came to debating in person, but since then I had overcame how I was as a teen, the very reason why I am in the position I am in now, as is why I favor debates, mainly when it comes to the Bible when dealing with Trinitarians. And speaking about Trinitarians, they themselves use social media to defame and spread misinformation, so much so, even on here, some people are somewhat tricked by this same info. Hence why my stance on being against misinformation, learning about something or someone as much as possible to speak against the one sidedness in various domains. We can take your example in relation Qanon or that of Islam, you believed something untrue, and I simply brought you truth; however, on the social media platforms, you can see both sides, and which side is saturated.
    That being said, this is why I hold true to what I said to you, and the fact in a situation if we were in a public setting with people around, one wrong piece of info on your end could trigger a negative action, effectively making you dangerous if you are unaware of some things.
    Actually they are quite simple. What makes them complex is the deviation from the latter. For example, Witness stated women should hold religious office in a church, and attempted to use Deborah and twisted Paul's words. Srecko, followed suit and stated something similar, stating churches existed in Ancient Israel, which is false, and they pressed the idea more with the Sisera situation in the Bible. Because they could not answer the question in relation to what was debated, they kept using the Watchtower as a defense mechanisms, and in Witness case, she threw a fit because I use a lower case "W" for women and ultimately she called me a misogynist, granted, misogynist mentally is dishonorable in my culture. Then we got the Rick Fearon thing, even with conspiracy theory, she has some people believing them to, if I recall, she had you believing what another woman professed called Smurf Girl, who assume anything with the name Watchtower, is somehow connected to them directly, but the straw that broke the camels back was JWs do not celebrate Independence Day (4th of July), which resulted in infighting about ExJWs. Sadly, this woman thinks reddit at times is often a credible source.
    Hence, my view of misinformation and conspiracy.
    You never answered and you did dance around the question in the first view responses when asked. If someone asks a simple question, yet you deviate, even in a debate that is dancing around what is being asked. There was a bit of an appeal to motive in it too.
    This isn't the first time you did this either. Majority of the time it is either CSA or Bible Strong's Concordances.
    This also goes hand in hand with what I said pertaining to debates in the past.
    Perhaps everyone else sees this too. As is the remarks from others of out of left field assertions to a thread.
    You using a tactic which is widely known, prompting someone to call it out, isn't an insult. Hence, appeal to motive, granted you yourself engineered your own downfall makes it predictable of what you will say or do next.
    That being said, be careful with Big Tech, allow it to consume you, and you are forever gone.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Space Merchant in The trinity and it’s false theology.   
    I do not know if you are willfully ignorant, or joking. The Watchtower does not have their own view (no one who is Anti-Trinitarian does granted there are only 2 camps) of the Trinity because any thing pertaining to Anti-Trinitarianism is all the same across the board, and it seems you lack knowledge of history, hence your shenanigans before in regards to a specific verse in John when you were corrected which resulted in your jumping to another thread to fume.
    Moreover, your remark also shows you are totally unaware of the fact that the situation in regards to being against the Trinity predates both the Watchtower and Jehovah's Witnesses as is with the majority of those who are Anti-Trinitarian, in fact, the Anti-Trinitarian view has been in existence long before your Trinity view ever came to fruition, hence Subordinationism (Christian primitivity).
    Perhaps next time, you should pay attention to your Trinitarian Shield, which in of itself, is quite absurd. I recommend you learn the history of Christianity and the Bible for it shows you are not that sound in all sense; for your camp were responsible for many things that are negative - 1 does not equal 3 by the way, Durbinite.
    That being said, speaking of Durbinites, they can't defend their own exegesis and the Trinitarian remarks are predictable, in addition to that, someone, such as yourself, who one accepts paganism yet utters God and Christ at the same time, can easily be called into question for indefensible remarks.
    You either sit with angels or you sit with demons, cannot play both sides, granted it is November once again, I take it you will side with The Goddess of Harvest, Ceres this year over the Christ (again). Typical MSCs.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Matthew9969 in The trinity and it’s false theology.   
    Yeah, its better to stick with the watchtower trinity......father/son/governing body.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Space Merchant in Dear Librarian I have a JW neighbour who lets his dog to go out without any supervision. For what I see this dog goes in the streets looking for food. He must not feed him.Isn't this animal cruelty? How he can pretend to be a ministerial servant if he is   
    Essentially the point. CSA is everywhere, there is no escaping it, there is no one or group on earth that is immune to it. Sexual Immorality is conjure by means of sin, and imperfect man sadly is in subjection to it, those who given in to such urges. Therefore, the JW faith, Facebook, no one is immune, and abusers are not foolish either because they can exploits anything and or anyone around them, even social media, of which is quite damning because of many problematic issues.
    I merely brought forth the question because of @Patiently waiting for Truth's old remark when he use to go by he who shall not be named. The same one who always brings up CSA at the wrong time. It was borderline cross-examining, but not so much. More so focus on question, which, usually in debates, the opponent stems away from the question only to back themselves into a wall, other then that, it was in connection to his words pertaining to CSA related issues.
    That being said, yes, when Myspace was popular, many teens were on it, from Middle School to High School, college, etc. This later resulted in some people exploring the system to which minors get involved in very bad situations. When he who shall not be named, JB, does not recognize is that these tools can be used in the wrong hands. He attested to the idea in many of his comments of why he left his faith and had his focus on CSA and all pertaining to it, even attack others in the process, yet when the reverse is done, the fathered man acts like that of a cornered small beast yelping in front of a person who does not seek to anything to it.
    As for the subject matter. There is no sign of animal abuse. Like what was pointed out, it is not uncommon for any man or woman to leave a trained animal alone. Now since Facebook was coined, yes, animal abuse does exist on the platform, as with all others, unknown as to why some of it is somewhat allow, remains a mystery. There is also a beastiality problem (something of which the Bible considers unnatural) where animals are sexually abused also, take this example - https://www.thedailybeast.com/florida-vet-prentiss-madden-who-shared-videos-of-himself-sexually-abusing-dogs-gets-21-years-in-prison
    That being said, false claims about, or misinformation related to animal abuse can often times be dangerous to the owner because like other forms of brazen conduct, there are those out there who will even commit harm on the owner, perhaps even kill in the name of the animal in question.
    Therefore, one needs to defend him or herself. Here are some quick examples related to what is mentioned:
    https://www.dogingtonpost.com/what-you-can-do-about-false-complaints-to-animal-control/
    https://www.quora.com/What-do-I-do-if-I-m-falsely-accused-of-animal-abuse
    https://www.campbellwhitten.com/criminal-defense/animal-cruelty/
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Space Merchant in Dear Librarian I have a JW neighbour who lets his dog to go out without any supervision. For what I see this dog goes in the streets looking for food. He must not feed him.Isn't this animal cruelty? How he can pretend to be a ministerial servant if he is   
    No, from the start it was mentioned CSA is everywhere, it exist not only in the noted institutions, but also in Social Media as well. CSA is one in the same in ALL aspects, the difference is tracking, identifying, etc.
    Be it a faith group or your, so called tool of which you defend, even with the article presented to you, CSA exists in it. I don't see how a minor being raped on FB live and the aftermath blew past your view; ironic because not too long ago you mentioned a biker gang who stops CSA, of which a branch related to them deal with online threats.
    You are being quite delusional, Butler, as usual, and ever so predictable.
    Never compared the two, merely stated CSA exist in faith groups, namely JWs, as well as on Facebook. You told us because of your 3 months research, that was the reason to you leaving, hence the question, if you were supposedly to do the same for Facebook, you would not do the same, your dancing allowed everyone to see you yourself engineered your own demise on this thread. Quite poetic.
    So tell me this, if you did 3 months of research pertaining to CSA on Facebook, will you leave it, just as you did your former faith? In regards to Anna, there is more to it.
    Clearly you won't. Perhaps if the IICSA comes out with a piece on Facebook, you'd still leave your twigs in the sand - oh wait, they mentioned awareness in this regard, perhaps that is enough, to push you to quote on quote - leave.
    And yet CSA is uncontrollable on social media, mainly on Facebook's child, Tiktok. As is with it being very difficult and complex due to the fact of how predators operate on the platform and it is way more worse than the norm with institutions. Granted you are of the UK and the article in question coined Grooming of children, this should have been something that caught your attention, which it clearly did not. Therefore, your comments pertaining to earthwide remarks can be called into question.
    Child sex abuse, violence, rape, etc. Continue to enjoy your tool. Just next time in regards to CSA choose your words carefully. Because now it can be used against you in regards to a social platform which you deem as real.
    The issue here is your remark, of which no one, be it JW for former, would never profess, but you were the only one to have made the remark, which puts you in this compromising feeble position.
    You left due to CSA, as you pointed out from your 3 months research. Yet the latter remarks makes your statements murky.
    I did. I mention time and time again, JWs are not immune to child abuse, therefore, no one is immune to CSA. So mush so others mention it but you play ignorant. In fact, my first interaction with you, this was said. JWs, among them are the aware and unaware, and the unaware, even former ones, are subjected to bystander syndrome. There are many examples, even on here, for instance, Srecko being unable to identify Red Flags of an abuser and or the fact of how they can exploits the situation around them, the people, to access children, not only they abuse authority in some instances, they can abuse various laws, i.e. go to a state where technically an abused victim is forced to marry their abuser, reasons why I mentioned the double edge sword aspect of the justice system, which isn't too far with what is done in the UK.
    The difference is Facebook and social media operate on algorithms and automated systems, which can be exploited by a subnet of people, and with this tool, they can take action with ill intent. in regards to CSA, this is 100% the case. This is why children are easily groomed, lured, etc on the platform, this is why teenagers are easily tricked into exposing themselves to those who abuse the tool, i.e. the sharing of porno graphic images/videos. Then you have the human trafficking and kidnapping aspect which is the core problem since the inspection of social media, hence those missing persons cases, majority of the time, it due to a missing persons case, and speaking about that, there was a recent event on your neck of the woods.
    That being said, no one is immune, but to be unaware, even in social media is further evidence of how well rooted Big Tech has a hold on some folks, you being an example. With what is to come soon, mainly in the UK, let's see if you can keep that same energy when the exploits increase it's complexity.
    Child sex abuse is not a religion. What sorcery are you professing this time?
    Actually, those intertwined with child sex abuse do encourage one another, and they commit the crimes. Who do you think is have sexual relations with minors if said minor is sold off? This is why us Truthers took issue with Jeffrey Epstein, even your own, Prince Andrew. They do not operate as a religion, they operate in ways to access institutions, namely, religions, to commit harm and manipulate, as well, with clubs, schools, even social media. Often times, the Cult of the Woke enables such ones, as is those who joke around about pedophiles, at times, do not realize what harm they are doing by pushing pedophiles in the direction of children, hence the direct/indirect weaponization of child abuse.
    As we speak, what I forewarned, is evident and true, and it will be quite the hell for many children if more and more people continue to act as bystanders, even on social media.
    I do criticize the unaware. Bystander Syndrome, I say it many many times. The unaware are often the times that they think they are immune, and will make a mental note that if it does not happen to them, they're in the clear. Unfortunately they are wrong. The unaware also does not put forth application of education. The unaware are also defensive in most cases even if a truth is put in front of them and they do not seek a middle ground in some cases.
    You even replied on other occasions pertaining to that notation, even towards me. So why now suddenly you stumbled off your perch and act as though nothing was said? Perhaps, you yourself are among the unaware? Possibly true due to you going defense mode for Facebook in relation to why the question was addressed. Even more because The Woke tricked you with a few News Articles. If someone, you included, gets tricked by Wokeism, that is absolutely a sign of an unaware individual.
    And yet if you search Bystander Syndrome, Sarah Payne, Red Flags, etc. I mentioned such.
    Hypocrisy is when one, such as yourself, is this ignorant of Facebook and the CSA on it.
    That being said, a hammer is a tool. A man can use it to build a house, another can use it to kill a man, this applies to Facebook, a tool, as you stated.
    Since you will never answer the question, it will be address based on your reaction, whining and dancing.
    @Patiently waiting for Truth based on what was said in the past by him and him alone (He who shall not be named), even if he researched CSA regarding Facebook, he will never leave the platform.
    Your absurdities are predictable. Going forward, choose your words wisely because that in of itself can be your own undoing. And like I said, should CSA come up again, anyone, perhaps Tom even, could use the Facebook remark against you. Therefore, you set yourself up just by dodging the question.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Equivocation in Dear Librarian I have a JW neighbour who lets his dog to go out without any supervision. For what I see this dog goes in the streets looking for food. He must not feed him.Isn't this animal cruelty? How he can pretend to be a ministerial servant if he is   
    @Isabella So where is the Animal Cruelty? 🤔 It is not uncommon for well trained pets to roam when their owner isn't present. I mean, some people have been doing this so it wouldn't put it past me that this brother did.
    @xero Sometimes people do leave their pets out if trained. So I guess people are not pet owners will come up with their own assumptions on things, not realizing what is the truth in the matter. Also Climate Change can be over exaggerated by some to the point that they entertain the idea that 'culling the herd' would be beneficial. Then you have the UN thing regarding Climate Change. Crazy stuff. 
    Oh boy the usual suspects again @Space Merchant and @Patiently waiting for Truth.... I guess I know who brought up CSA this time and once again I see who is in the right here.🧐
    @Patiently waiting for Truth As someone who is still technically a youth, perhaps the youngest one here, there is some form of CSA on social media, so I wouldn't say that's hypocrisy because it has been going on for a while, even Facebook's predecessor, Myspace. So CSA is everywhere not simply in religous congregations, or in schools or clubs. It's own social media too.

    Anyways, I dunno man, I wouldn't call him a lair. He just 'cross examined' everything related to CSA in order to press you to answer a question which is parallel to current and long deleted threads which you were involved in. Usually if he recounts something related to what is said or directly, chances are it isn't a lie, I noticed he pulled a few jabs from that one thread I will not mention because it'll just send this thread into another off topic conundrum. But he IS RIGHT, that question could've easily been answered but you kept it dragging along only to paint yourself in the wrong. You are literally proving his point even through a cross examine tactic about Facebook and CSA. Dunno were working for Facebook and Watchtower defense came from, since Merchant operates on a logical with centered reasoning and you don't. Smh.

    The simple answer would be, you wouldn't leave despite it happening on Facebook. I guess now Facebook is as he puts it, your Kryptonite.

    It also makes sense for him to even bring it up because of the mass censorship that went down after the Facebook whistle blower thing, and some of that censorship not only revolved around politics, but CSA too. I know a bit of this because my own professor, one of them, seems to be a die hard blue check mark guy, not reader. Although he knows I am JW he at times lowkey try to encourage ideologies that are not in line with God's standards. Other then the Truther thing, him and the only other guy who was affiliated with Jehovah’s Witnesses, are spot on with certain subject matter.

    Anyways, please next time this thread is about Animals and or Animal Cruelty. I don't see why you added Child abuse into this but the Revelation of Facebook should have kept you in check. NOW THEN as for the topic, there isn't much evidence of that being Animal Cruelty, and the fact you don't judge as you claim, that contradicts what you said on this thread. Here in America, some people do leave their pets unattended ONLY if their well trained domesticated pets. Likewise with any uncanny animals people tend to have in the house such as chickens, ducks, etc. Yes, people do have pets like this. This excludes anything such as a snake, lizard, etc. Certain animals even if trained you cannot leave alone because they can potentially become prey to predators. So this JW who leave his dog out is most likely trained and as the Merchant stated, there is a Rule of Thumb when it comes to these situations. Obviously he would NOT leave his dog unattended if was NOT trained. Although it is done here, even in other cultures that is applied, even for some in our community. So I don't know why someone who assume something without some form of credible information.

    As for Climate Change, other than this whole thing supposedly effecting people, it does to animals too. Clearly Bill Gates isn't doing much with that private jet he is using.
    @Space Merchant I kind of see what you did lol. Anyways, you are right, CSA is a problem on social media, even Facebook. There were rumors were the algorithm of Facebook and all under it, make it difficult to even track suspects on the platform. And it isn't a shock to people, me included, of what's going on on there, even what is allowed to the point people would find loop holes in the system. This was the case with YouTube and Reddit a while back too. 
    Like I said, I am most likely the youngest one here and I grew up in the social media space. There is always some bad apples on the platform, also those who encourage bad behavior. Now again since this is ANIMAL CRUELTY we are talking about, I seen what people do with animals on there, not good. There were some people who would harm even kill an animal for likes and attention. Like what you said, Facebook can't be a replacement to anything pertaining to realism, and real people in a social setting are not on this validation high to do such a thing when it comes to harm towards other people and animals. Other then that, this is why people need to be careful but at the same time you can't do much with all this censorship going on. Crazy to think someone but this stuff is true. "WATCH ME KILL A CAT ON FB LIVE" and should someone announce that, the Watchers will come give likes and view such Cruelty. The world can be twisted at times. Smh 😐
    @TrueTomHarley Well it isn't too surprising if some people will ignore that information willfully. I guess now we can start using the term 'predictable' since that is being thrown around.
    @Pudgy Yeah, some people can be cruel to animals. I have a few family members who try to take in resuce dogs. One of my family members is a rich guy but humble. As Space Merchant puts it, there are people who are cruel online but at the same time there are those who utilize such tools to help, which is what my relative does. He has a lot of space to hold dogs, so far he has a about 7, 2 dogs he saved, the history of those dogs were in dog fighting matches which is highly illegal.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Space Merchant in Dear Librarian I have a JW neighbour who lets his dog to go out without any supervision. For what I see this dog goes in the streets looking for food. He must not feed him.Isn't this animal cruelty? How he can pretend to be a ministerial servant if he is   
    Never did.
    Well if it made no difference you should not have made a response to begin with because the question in regards to Facebook was connected to that thread, as with Allen's. You should have steadied yourself the first time I mentioned it.
    Yet your response to her and Allen raises question, as is what you said to Xero and Tom here.
    Check the threads mentioned.
    Not really but ok, yet you are the one using all caps.
    No need to, just pointing out the fact in regards to CSA.
    Actually it did, we can see how much deviation you did just from one question.
    Yet we can read the numerous threads concerning your utterance of CSA.
    Go ahead. Just know CSA is in the tool that you are defending. That shows you are unaware. 5k children of which are effect, police baffled and recent events of missing persons and a list of other things. Never once you made awareness to said tool, effectively showing the latter was correct the whole time.
    Perhaps this time you'd answer the question.
    If you can leave JW faith regarding CSA, why can you not do the same for Facebook granted in remarks as to why the question is addressed to you.
    That being said, to be in denial of hypocrisy is far worse than being a lost soul.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Space Merchant in Video Games anyone?   
    Why on earth would I be a dangerous person, granted, you are aware of my history because I mentioned it to you? A dangerous person would not - deal with Children, preach the gospel, missing persons, stopping a pornography addict, etc. It is known I do debates, before, in person. I do run into protesters often times, but unlike them, violence isn't the answer. reasons why anything affiliated with or confronts them I advise caution, namely recently with what JWI made known.
    I do not have issue, I am not absorbed into big tech as you are. If that was the case, it would contradict what I always say to be Berean like.
    That being said, if I had ever made you in person, I would know you will not be able to answer some things, and or address questions. You are also the type of person that does not watch what you say, it can resolve in an indirect confrontation from others which can match that of what has been happening in London, effectively, you would put everyone around you, interacting with you at risk, thus making you a danger. This is evident in how to make comments here even, even out of nowhere, be it on this club or what you said in the Islam thread, which is mirrored by the situation with Tommy Robinson - which induce indirect confrontation.
    You also have issue because never once you care capable of grounded discussion, and you being this sporadic can result in the action mentioned, so if myself, Srecko, JWI, Tom were near you, you'd put us at risk, not yourself only - You are not Berean like.
     
    In short - You'll get us all jumped.
     
    That being said, you really need to understand the difference between what is real and not real, what is legitimate communication between persons and what is superficial. You cannot get body language or the social ques people have some knowledge on for years now, even before social media existed.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Space Merchant in Dear Librarian I have a JW neighbour who lets his dog to go out without any supervision. For what I see this dog goes in the streets looking for food. He must not feed him.Isn't this animal cruelty? How he can pretend to be a ministerial servant if he is   
    They're not bluffs. Anna did call you out, pointing to the fact your statement was not the only reasons of which you made it out to be so.
    Unfortunately they are, hence I mentioned Allen.
    As for Tom and Xero, your remarks are in this thread, other times you say you do not judge, but you end up doing so.
    I did not lie. If that was the case, there would not be a reason to mention the 3 people in those threads.
    If it was a lie, why would I bring it up?
    Yet we see you continue to weaponize CSA as usual. That is true, as is your defense of Facebook.
    As for the quotes

    You did, granted you went as far as to bring forth faith and the one true religion remark when you were merely told about Facebook. even after the fact you mentioned GB to deviate from a small question. You also went on to speak about other things regarding JWs or GB that is unrelated.
    As for the second

    Hence Anna and Allen, in their respects. Surely if you did research on Facebook, I doubt you'll do the same thing.
    That being said, I highly recommend you, someone who seems to bring up CSA all the time, even proclaiming it is an earth wide issue, look at the platform you use as a tool. Let's see what happens in 3 months time the more you read into such things, either Anna was correct and you were in the wrong, or the opposite.
    On a side note, Section 230 is problematic, evidently, it will be for you indirectly soon.
     
    Facebook's Apps Used To Groom 5,000 UK Children: Report
    https://www.benzinga.com/tech/21/10/23542892/facebooks-apps-used-to-groom-5-000-uk-children-report
    Whistleblower: Facebook's response to child abuse 'inadequate'

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-59063768
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Space Merchant in Video Games anyone?   
    It does not.
    A real social interaction between person(s) vs virtual chat/comment is different, and the latter can push a negative effect, even among the youth, this excludes the danger aspect of social media. That is a clear and literal difference between what is real and what is not. Clearly, my talking to you isn't a real discussion because I am not physically speaking to you, therefore, you stating otherwise, to someone who deals in Technology and Software, holds no water.
    Social media conversations completely lack nonverbal clues, such as body language, micro-expressions, the tells”, etc. Also, typing out an answer gives a person a bit more time to think, or simply to decide to be uncensored at times.
    Same case is made in relation to video games, but that in of itself causes a different reaction.
    That being said, with how you are on here vs, let's say for example, you speaking with me or @JW Insider in person would be vastly different, and no one can literally log out in place. Or perhaps @Pudgy, who may be a serious person in person.
    Realism cannot be replace with something not as connecting, if that was the case, it would give those who are in favor of false mates a reason to consider their actions as real, hence the remark of a Japanese culture-sque issue that is often misunderstood, and spoken of out of context.
    There is no physical interaction in regards to being social. Seems Big Tech got you mentally confused.
    Yes, means of communication, but you cannot confuse that with realism.
    In the United States alone, 64% Americans pointed out social media have a mostly negative effect on the way things are going in the U.S. today, politics, communication, friendships, dating/marriage/courtship, etc.
    Social Media, at times, the unfortunate can also end up in a very bad spot. It can also be weaponized as well, even by employers, i.e. The annoying blue check marks.
    But remember, as of the reason situation in regards to censorship by means of the whistleblower, it was pointed out how Facebook is targeting young children, specifically girls. How the algorithm operates effects people, you included. Even when it comes to commerce.
    The fact you are in the United Kingdom, the events to come will take a bold step in the social media space, and those unaware will get hit by that wave.
    And the point?
    So this "someone" you know for your whole life, he knows everything personal about you even? Perhaps you know what he likes, maybe the stash of Pokémon Cards he keeps hidden from his mate? I will press Enter to Doubt on that one.
    That being said, if you want realism, nothing says being real when your personal information is leaked by such platforms, and or you end up like the poor soul who gets impersonated. I am sure you heeded the warning I gave to you a while back, and if you didn't listen, let's just say it's own the black market.
     
    Again, be careful of what you deem as real; the remark alone just screams how far big tech has come and how the shift in society as already taken effect on what is to come next.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Space Merchant in Dear Librarian I have a JW neighbour who lets his dog to go out without any supervision. For what I see this dog goes in the streets looking for food. He must not feed him.Isn't this animal cruelty? How he can pretend to be a ministerial servant if he is   
    Check the thread in question as is your response to Allen, of which is quoted there in regards to what you stated as an Earthwide issue.
    Yes they do, but clearly they never made a statement such as you yourself.
    These are not misquotes, if they were, the statement from the thread in question, as pointed out Anna was correct. Therefore, CSA exist everywhere, even in faith groups and institutions as is within the numerous threads of which you always bring up CSA to the point even JWI made reference to what you've been doing. Often times you even seek challenge concerning CSA, even here when Xero made a remark about Animals, you bring up CSA out of nowhere, and here we see you seek to defend a social media platform being unaware of what is taking place, even that of your own soil. You even went as far as to hand hold JWs/GB in the process, unwise.


    It never ends with you, and seems now going forward Facebook is can be used as a Kryptonite.
    Seems funny to you that CSA is weaponized by you nearly every time. CSA is no joking matter.
    I do not dodge and never have dodged, so why should I be the one to do so? I was the one who told you CSA is dangerous on social media, as is pointed out social media is not realism.
    Hide pedophilia in the JW faith? How? JW are not immune to CSA, as someone who deals with children before and missing persons cases, those of us who are aware know no man on earth, group, club, etc. is immune, even the IICSA and the FBI are not immune to CSA. I suggest you wake yourself up from the dream world you are in, Butler because such sins exist due to the imperfections of man.
    The thing is, your statements pertaining to question. You continue to put JWs in front of you when you continue to evade the CSA question of social media.
    Actually, regarding trust, I suggest you read Facebook's guidelines. Whenever you make an agreement, there is a form of trust that is form - https://transparency.fb.com/policies/community-standards/
    Butler, you always bring up CSA, therefore, nearly a majority of threads regarding it, you are present, always, even when unrelated in which you caused a reaction from The Librarian and the Admin.
    I have no need to look into your Facebook, granted I am Anti-Agenda in the face of Big Tech. Regardless, I doubt you never once made any grounded discussion on the platform and what you consider REAL is a false reality.
    The fact that social media can get you to assume such as realism already shows you are just a cog in the machine. Perhaps you'll go META.
    That being said, the only time I and or the Truther community had to go into Facebook was in relation to missing persons situations, be it of a minor or someone older, otherwise CSA related, this is why back in 2017 folks in various communities were pointed out as an abuser/seeking to abuser, and or grooming a children, which makes the situation in the United Kingdom right now not much of a surprise for us, be it child or animal.
    But you said you judge people, so a change of narrative? You make yourself very predictable.
    That being said, the remarks from Anna, you talking to Allen can be found there, concerning CSA. As pointed out, going forward, Facebook will be the green rock for you concerning CSA going forward; that is, the next time you want to throw in an unrelated narrative.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Space Merchant in Dear Librarian I have a JW neighbour who lets his dog to go out without any supervision. For what I see this dog goes in the streets looking for food. He must not feed him.Isn't this animal cruelty? How he can pretend to be a ministerial servant if he is   
    @Pudgy The truth is, that everyone uses social media, it is both a blessing and curse. Unfortunately, CSA exists even on social media and it is uncontrollable, as is far more complex compared to the norm of someone going into a school and or a church with one ill goal in mind; more so, it is very problematic when it comes to people end up as a Missing Person, for social media can be used to look for the lost, and to those with ill intent, used to lure someone to them, which is why the recent news about the police in the UK, them having a difficult time. Social Media also connects to various media, even the world of video games, where majority of the player base are children, hence why gamers often joke about how annoying kids can be when you play competitively against them. So one is to be very careful and if given the chance, teach about safety online, for there are many cases.
    The problem here, mainly in regards to @Patiently waiting for Truth is hypocrisy. He attest to the fact if anything has CSA, it is a reason to leave right away, which was the case with him being a former JW, but in response to that, Anna mentioned the total opposite. I've mentioned before that because of various situations, even CSA, some people would leave, some people won't leave, in fact, some people tend to try to remedy the situation and regardless of either side they would never make such a statement, if anything they would want better measures, how to improve, clarify, etc., but in the mind of JB, total abstaining from anything having CSA, yet, when Facebook comes to question, I was given a dance talent show, which was predictable, and in his dance, he uses the Jehovah's Witness' Shield defense to hide from the question, which is silly. It was also foreshadowing due to past threads/comments.
    That being said, in the case of Animals, there are some good things on social media, at times, too over the top, but at the same time, there are people committing acts of Animal Cruelty on Social Media. There was a woman tormented her pets, yet she still remains on the platform.
    Facebook at times tries to stop such acts, but often times, any ill acts pushed on to the media, often slips by - https://www.onekind.scot/facebook-rules-let-animal-abuse-slip-through-the-net/
    And even the children of Facebook such as Instagram, and Tiktok, is even more horrific when it comes to Animals - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/animals-youtube-facebook-tiktok-video-b1906254.html
    The list goes on, and it all pertains to the notation of abuse, be it a person or an animal. The biggest problem is that the viewers of said content, are simply there to laugh, i.e. The Snoop Dogg Bird.
    Unfortunately it has been revealed that someone cannot live up to his own words when it comes to a social media platform. The irony because he was the one who mentioned CSA.
    That being said, granted the question could not be answered and an attempted elegant dance around it, is evidence to the fact, some people do not always defend their own statements which they often say on occasion even when it is not necessary.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Space Merchant in Dear Librarian I have a JW neighbour who lets his dog to go out without any supervision. For what I see this dog goes in the streets looking for food. He must not feed him.Isn't this animal cruelty? How he can pretend to be a ministerial servant if he is   
    It isn't bullying, granted you were the one that told everyone here if something has CSA you would leave it, even abstain from it. Granted, you told us this regarding the JW faith for that was your reason for leaving - understandable, but why could not that be applied to a media platform of which is extremely problematic when it comes to CSA, I wonder why.
    Hence, this is why you should choose your words carefully, therefore, Anna, was 100% correct in the old thread - CSA was NOT the sole reason.
    Speaking Facts and using your own words is not being rude. Again you deviate from the question asked.
    You said that regarding CSA you left JWs, that is what you said, therefore, nothing is discredited.

    Everything pertaining to Child Sex Abuse on this forum alone, with practically 95% of your comments is factual to the statements you made for months here.
    Even here, when the subject matter is about Animal Abuse, you brought up CSA out of nowhere, yet now when your own remarks come to your doorstep, you scream discredit accusation? Friend, this is truth, live up to your words.
    But you should always be ready to speak, granted you were the one who attest to the idea of leaving anything that contains CSA. If you can't answer that, then it shows regardless if there is CSA, you'd still use said tool.
    But you said you would leave something and or a group because of Child Sex Abuse, yet somehow Facebook is on the Accepted Friend Request List, thus, it shows you are in the category of Compliance in the face of your own statements.
    You said insult, yet not one insult is mentioned, the fact you make the accusation of insult yet cannot show evidence of said insult, shows how strong your deviation is.
    CSA is the subject matter, of which you brought up, is it not? It isn't an insult to speak on your own words, but it is insulting to run in hypocrisy to your own words. If we are to speak further on insult, you should check your remark to Xero where you first uttered CSA.
    So tell me, what is so right to remain on Facebook when you yourself said you would leave something if it has CSA riddled all over it?
    So what about the 5k UK kids? Clearly you never did anything on Facebook to combat CSA, let alone recent events. Surprised that this discovery by the UK police did not move you to leave a social platform.
    Never brought up JWs, merely brought up Facebook. As we can see, you continue to bring up JWs and the Watchtower only to defend your own skin, running from the question in of itself.
    You speak of defense, so tell me, a girl who was abused live on Facebook by someone twice her age isn't enough to get you off of Facebook? Or perhaps make awareness of CSA? No?
    Of course not because if the CSA issue was that big for you, clearly you'd use your platform to try and add positivity and how to combat CSA.
    You want to speak of immorality, perhaps the many women and children abused on Facebook live would have their say, over perhaps the 5k children.'
    Clearly, never once, you bring forth awareness of CSA on such a platform, reasons why when former PM May was mentioned, you had no idea.
    I don't care about Jehovah's Witnesses or the Watchtower because the focus here is CSA and your own words as is your hypocrisy to your own statements.
    I am pretty sure no Jehovah's Witness, current or former, would ever make such a statement while at the same time playing favorites when it comes to others media or tools. That is 100% hypocrisy.
    You are, JB. Because it is unwise, 100% to ever make such a statement, but you do the opposite when it is another form of media. Therefore, you should have given more detail to your statement and perhaps made it clear to everyone else first. Which you did not.
    Yet when it is revealed how dangerous your tool is, you run from a simple question with absolute deviation. Therefore, going forward, anything related to CSA, this can be brought forth at any given time, as is your past statements, which ignites more flames.
    The question was, in regards to your own statements on CSA, if you can leave JWs for CSA quickly, why can't you do the same for social media, specifically, Facebook, which in the realm of Social Media, CSA is not only far worse, but complex to track? Facebook couldn't even suppress/stop a child being sexually assaulted, raped, on FB live. In some cases, the viewers, watching the rape; often times people state if they themselves should be charged, hence the situation with Bystander Syndrome. Likewise with animals being tormented, assaulted even, killed on live, hence Animal Cruelty, same situation.
    Granted, if you can leave anything with that magnitude of CSA, surely you can do the same, but clearly you can't, therefore, your past statements are quite contradicting.
    The problem here, no one has made the statement you made, reasons why I mentioned the thread with Anna, even quoted her.
    You were the only person to attest to the fact anything with CSA one should leave it, hence your own situation. Therefore it is said as to why you should have been very careful with your own words.
    Actually if you check some of the threads of where I mentioned Social Media and it's problems, some things were very positive. Unlike you, some people, even JWs, former ones who are not disgruntled, even will acknowledge the fact CSA is all over social media, but still use the platform anyways, to some, they actually spread awareness if anything, actually looking for neutral ground to speak should the discussion calls for it. In the other thread, both you and Srecko never once reached this level, and in regards to you, your statement, puts you in the spotlight.
    Even outside of that, they would not, mainly due to the fact those who are serious about CSA seek neutral ground with all people instead of being one sided. An example would be the CSA cases in the JW faith, current and former JWs who know the justice system, even law would speak, but they would come into a confrontation with former JWs who became disgruntled. Look at half of what Srecko brought up on CSA vs the latter, that in of itself is an example, even more, a lawyer who deals with CSA, Srecko, and even disgruntled JWs believe that he is being paid by the JWs despite the fact this lawyer is defending an abused victim, another example would be your own remark towards @TrueTomHarley on this thread and what you said to Xero which was completely out of left field.
    And? Name one who made the statement you made and did NOT live up to said statement and all that equates to it.

     
    That being said, going forward, perhaps choose your words wisely because it seems that now said words are deemed indefensible; mainly going forward when it comes to CSA.
    Dancing around and Deviating from questions only makes you look more guilty, perhaps sent yourself free from that truth next time around.
    Anna's response was related to what you said to AllenSmith34 a while back, as is, what came forth afterwards from it.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Space Merchant in Video Games anyone?   
    @Patiently waiting for Truth Facebook is still the parent of some of said media, regardless if you only use Facebook. There is a difference between realism and social media, Social Media isn't realism, and that is absolute truth.
    That being said, with Metaverse coming soon, be careful not to get Zuc'd.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Jehovah's Organization and the 40 year refinement periods...   
    @Srecko Sostar  that comment is perfect. And as you say, translations do differ and possibly contradict each other. 
    That is why I feel that only inspired Anointed ones could translate the Bible properly and could teach true meaning from the Bible... The GB admit to not being inspired. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Jehovah's Organization and the 40 year refinement periods...   
    @Srecko Sostar  that comment is perfect. And as you say, translations do differ and possibly contradict each other. 
    That is why I feel that only inspired Anointed ones could translate the Bible properly and could teach true meaning from the Bible... The GB admit to not being inspired. 
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in Jehovah's Organization and the 40 year refinement periods...   
    Refinement periods .... finishing periods .... periods of training. Who and what needs those periods?
    As the title of the topic itself clearly indicates, alleged “improvements” are something that needs, an organization, that is established by people.
    Terms like “God’s Word is truth” are often associated with a literal book, and that is the Bible. But it goes on, so the idea is promoted that everything published by WTJWorg is also “God’s Word” or “the truth”.
    The “Word of God” is not something that can only be tied to a book, the Bible. First of all, the reason why one should be careful with the Bible itself is the large amount of translations of the Bible that are often a source of misunderstanding for today's man. Not to mention that some translations are often times contradictory to each other and promote a particular ideology of a religious community. It follows that "the truth" is not seen or recognized from the book we calls too as "the Word of God."
    So we have two parallel journeys in “refinement”. One embraces the Bible itself as the Word of God, and the other embraces the doctrines and theology of a particular church, in this case WTJWorg.
    The questions logically arises: Who claims that "the truth" must undergo "refinement" ??? Why is the "truth" not in itself pure, unquestionable, without a doubt ???
    If “truth” needs improvements from people in the 20th and 21st centuries, specifically, from people in WTJWorg, has that kind of “truth” ever been true in the past? Is it today?
    WTJWorg connects the term “knowledge of the truth” with the Bible obtained by learning according to WTJWorg theology. Such "knowledge of the truth," they say, leads believers to "eternal life." We see that the WTJWorg “truth” needs to be reworked and modified and re-modeled. But not to make their “truth” become true, but to continue the illusion that this organization is the only one on Earth that knows how to come to a “new truth” and a “new light”. At the same time, the organization counts on the loyalty of the members, because only in that way can it continue with the "wandering in the desert", which is only possible if it continues to be financed with financial contributions from naive and deceived members.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in Russia declares groups linked to Church of Scientology as ‘undesirable’   
    Understandable ….. Even the best of armor has chinks in it.
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