Patiently waiting for Truth

Yes, your spirit-directed organization has been given power to spiritually “kill” anyone who rejects the organization  – who rejects the elder body – who rejects the GB, and who speak TRUTH. 
John 16:2-4
I was a JW, blind as you are for over 32 years.
"Are you personally proving yourself holy with regard to not associating with family members or others who have been disfellowshipped?" Watchtower 2014 Nov 15 p.14
Can you see that the disfellowshipped have lost, according to the elders’ ruling, all “holiness” before God?  Do the unholy/unrighteous inherit the Kingdom?  It is decreed that they are spiritually “dead” until they repent according to Watchtower’s rules. 
The elders represent the “image” of the spirit-directed organization. The elders “sit as God in the temple of God” showing that they have the (unlawful) ability to speak for God.  2 Thess 2:4; Rev 13:11,14,15,18
 
 

Perhaps, but ....
 
..... Some of you, JW', "kill" others with wrong words and wrong behavior towards others.

Arauna:
As clearly stated in my previous post, I was addressing PwfT ….. NOT YOU!
Apparently it is not plain for all to see because you completely missed the point of what I was saying.
Translated into dog paw writing with crayons, the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses, with all their faults and foibles that we all have an over abundance of is most probably the faithful and discreet slave mentioned in the Bible.
In the absence of specific and clearly compelling contradicting competition proving otherwise that would be my best guess.
Further, my previous posting challenged PwfT, NOT YOU, to present evidence that whoever they were claiming is the faithful and discreet slave does a better job and is more rightfully able to claim it.
So far, much has been alluded to…. completely devoid of sustainable facts.
Please re-read what  I wrote in context with this explanation in mind.
Big ugly bags of mostly water is what humans are, some bigger and uglier than others.
When you don’t have fur, it’s a tough gig. 
 
……. and when you continuously accuse others of OCD, the words of Shakespeare come to mind …. “ … methinks she doth protest too much.”
 

He is like the man who hung next to Jesus - he will learn about everything when he gets a resurrection. Jehovah loves those who repent of their opposition to him and take a new road in life. Who bend their personalities to please his principled ways. 

This is the most loving and sensible comment I have read from you. 
However, you did note that he repented of his sins, and I would think he was not of the Anointed at the time of his sins.
Now, the colateral damage caused by the Governing Body of Jehovah's Wtnesses, that GB proclaiming to be of the Anointed. Is there such forgiveness of sins for Anointed ones ?  That is not for me to judge. But the GB seem to continue to 'sin' against the Anointed ones and continue to say that only the GB are the F&DS.  Perhaps if they were to step down and repent for their sins, they may be forgiven, that's not for me to judge.

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20150501/what-does-the-end-mean/

@JW Insider   Images like this do not seem to make much sense to me. 
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g201001/what-is-judgment-day/
Quote : 
Judgment Day will be a period of a thousand years during which humans will have the opportunity to regain what Adam and Eve lost. 
If JUDGEMENT DAY is 1,000 years long, and the judge is Jesus Christ, then what exactly is happening here ?
This image happening would have to mean that ALL those people have ALREADY BEEN JUDGED. 
I'm getting the feeling that Armageddon and Judgement Day are two seperate things. 
This picture looks like Armageddon. But I would have thought that Armageddon was only the destruction of the 'wicked' people. Hence the 'wicked' would already have been judged prior to the Judgement Day. 
This image looks to be killing indiscriminatly. So when would this take place ?  Would this be at the end of the 1,000 years, the destruction of all those that would not serve God through Christ ? 
It seriously does not make sense to me. 

@JW Insider Thank you for this fantastic comment above. Very constructive and very informative. 
I like this bit :-
The issues that come into play are about how many non-Christians were expected to be saved through Armageddon. Russell had given his opinion that only a very few would be "slaughtered" and that the vast majority of mankind living would accept the government that came to the fore after Armageddon (and Rutherford had not yet adjusted this view). In fact, as late as 1928, Rutherford could claim that he had not changed "a jot or tittle" from Russell's "Studies in the Scriptures."
Russell must have thought that Armageddon would not be as destructive as some magazines had shown, and that the ones slaughterd would have been on an individual basis, to allow the majority to survive. I am actually of that opinion myself. I like the scripture where Jesus says 
Berean Literal Bible
And Jesus said to him, "Do not forbid it; for whoever is not against us is for us." (Luke 9 : 50)
To me this has a deeper meaning.
I think this is a very sad change of thought, and I don't believe it to be true.
I think this also is sad. And once again i do not believe it to be true to what will actually happen.
We know that 'the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one', but it doesn't mean that all people  in that 'world' are deliberately wicked. 
From a Christian loving viewpoint it seems that Russell, and even Rutherford at first, had a very merciful and loving heart. But as the JW Org has 'progessed' it seems to have become a very hardened heart throughout. 
Would you be kind enough to tell me the 'official standpoint' / teaching / doctrine of the Watchtower/GB/Org, as to who will survive Armageddon and what Armageddon will consit of.  Or where would i find the answer ? 
Thank you once again for your time and patience on this topic. 

To be honest, from my viewpoint, this is all tongue in cheek. It helps me to laugh at some of the accusations that are flung at me by certain ones...... I do however find that I am 'condemned to death' by those I've mentioned. It seems to be a patern. 

This comment is totally off topic but it sort of made me laugh when I read it. It does not stumble me in any way because I know the dead do not have a 'soul' that floats off anywhere, but :-
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g201001/what-is-judgment-day/
This is not referring to disembodied souls of those who have died. The dead are totally unconscious and do not have a soul that survives death.
 
Revelation 20:4-6
Play 4  And I saw thrones, and those who sat on them were given authority to judge. Yes, I saw the souls* of those executed* for the witness they gave about Jesus and for speaking about God, and those who had not worshipped the wild beast or its image and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand.a And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christb for 1,000 years.    I know it's not a contradiction but it made me smile. 

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20150501/what-does-the-end-mean/

@JW Insider   Images like this do not seem to make much sense to me. 
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g201001/what-is-judgment-day/
Quote : 
Judgment Day will be a period of a thousand years during which humans will have the opportunity to regain what Adam and Eve lost. 
If JUDGEMENT DAY is 1,000 years long, and the judge is Jesus Christ, then what exactly is happening here ?
This image happening would have to mean that ALL those people have ALREADY BEEN JUDGED. 
I'm getting the feeling that Armageddon and Judgement Day are two seperate things. 
This picture looks like Armageddon. But I would have thought that Armageddon was only the destruction of the 'wicked' people. Hence the 'wicked' would already have been judged prior to the Judgement Day. 
This image looks to be killing indiscriminatly. So when would this take place ?  Would this be at the end of the 1,000 years, the destruction of all those that would not serve God through Christ ? 
It seriously does not make sense to me. 

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20150501/what-does-the-end-mean/

@JW Insider   Images like this do not seem to make much sense to me. 
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g201001/what-is-judgment-day/
Quote : 
Judgment Day will be a period of a thousand years during which humans will have the opportunity to regain what Adam and Eve lost. 
If JUDGEMENT DAY is 1,000 years long, and the judge is Jesus Christ, then what exactly is happening here ?
This image happening would have to mean that ALL those people have ALREADY BEEN JUDGED. 
I'm getting the feeling that Armageddon and Judgement Day are two seperate things. 
This picture looks like Armageddon. But I would have thought that Armageddon was only the destruction of the 'wicked' people. Hence the 'wicked' would already have been judged prior to the Judgement Day. 
This image looks to be killing indiscriminatly. So when would this take place ?  Would this be at the end of the 1,000 years, the destruction of all those that would not serve God through Christ ? 
It seriously does not make sense to me. 

But the TRUE 'Church' is the ANOINTED.  I'm sure you already know that Aruana. 
The Temple of Living Stones with Jesus Christ as the Corner Stone. 
The church isn't a building and it isn't a religion. 

This comment is totally off topic but it sort of made me laugh when I read it. It does not stumble me in any way because I know the dead do not have a 'soul' that floats off anywhere, but :-
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g201001/what-is-judgment-day/
This is not referring to disembodied souls of those who have died. The dead are totally unconscious and do not have a soul that survives death.
 
Revelation 20:4-6
Play 4  And I saw thrones, and those who sat on them were given authority to judge. Yes, I saw the souls* of those executed* for the witness they gave about Jesus and for speaking about God, and those who had not worshipped the wild beast or its image and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand.a And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christb for 1,000 years.    I know it's not a contradiction but it made me smile. 

To be honest, from my viewpoint, this is all tongue in cheek. It helps me to laugh at some of the accusations that are flung at me by certain ones...... I do however find that I am 'condemned to death' by those I've mentioned. It seems to be a patern. 

@JW Insider Thank you for this fantastic comment above. Very constructive and very informative. 
I like this bit :-
The issues that come into play are about how many non-Christians were expected to be saved through Armageddon. Russell had given his opinion that only a very few would be "slaughtered" and that the vast majority of mankind living would accept the government that came to the fore after Armageddon (and Rutherford had not yet adjusted this view). In fact, as late as 1928, Rutherford could claim that he had not changed "a jot or tittle" from Russell's "Studies in the Scriptures."
Russell must have thought that Armageddon would not be as destructive as some magazines had shown, and that the ones slaughterd would have been on an individual basis, to allow the majority to survive. I am actually of that opinion myself. I like the scripture where Jesus says 
Berean Literal Bible
And Jesus said to him, "Do not forbid it; for whoever is not against us is for us." (Luke 9 : 50)
To me this has a deeper meaning.
I think this is a very sad change of thought, and I don't believe it to be true.
I think this also is sad. And once again i do not believe it to be true to what will actually happen.
We know that 'the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one', but it doesn't mean that all people  in that 'world' are deliberately wicked. 
From a Christian loving viewpoint it seems that Russell, and even Rutherford at first, had a very merciful and loving heart. But as the JW Org has 'progessed' it seems to have become a very hardened heart throughout. 
Would you be kind enough to tell me the 'official standpoint' / teaching / doctrine of the Watchtower/GB/Org, as to who will survive Armageddon and what Armageddon will consit of.  Or where would i find the answer ? 
Thank you once again for your time and patience on this topic. 

what 'Truth' is that then ?  You cannot mean the JW Org.   
I was just thinking that most of the aggression on this forum seems to come  from those people who say they are JWs. 
As for puppies, they consume meat, they poop everywhere and they need constant care. 
When I go walking I wear these large 'cans' (blue headphones) attached to an MP3, and I listen to music. People look at me and laugh. An old man wearing 'cans'.  Then I look at all the people carrying little red bags. Bags of poo which they have to clean up when their little doggy has pood in a public place.  My 'cans' provide pleasure and need no attention. I laugh at all these people trying to pick up all the poo. 
And this is because it's big business. People here in England sell puppies for hundreds of pounds. 

This comment is totally off topic but it sort of made me laugh when I read it. It does not stumble me in any way because I know the dead do not have a 'soul' that floats off anywhere, but :-
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g201001/what-is-judgment-day/
This is not referring to disembodied souls of those who have died. The dead are totally unconscious and do not have a soul that survives death.
 
Revelation 20:4-6
Play 4  And I saw thrones, and those who sat on them were given authority to judge. Yes, I saw the souls* of those executed* for the witness they gave about Jesus and for speaking about God, and those who had not worshipped the wild beast or its image and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand.a And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christb for 1,000 years.    I know it's not a contradiction but it made me smile. 

Sure. The official standpoint is found on jw.org under these headings, below. No one repeats the idea of 99.9% anymore. There is no new number to replace it, except for several [welcome] admissions that we just don't know, and it's not up to us, since we are not the judge:
Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Believe That They Have the One True Religion? Did Jesus say there are many roads leading to salvation?
Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Feel That They Are the Only People Who Will Be Saved? The Bible explains who have the opportunity for salvation.
Are Jehovah’s Witnesses Tolerant of Other Religions? Learn how tolerance identifies true Christians.
Each of those short articles points to several longer articles that go into the topics a bit further.

And you calling out all the nasty things you do is NOT aggression? 

JFR was probably not even including those who were already Bible Students (proto-JWs) to be numbered in those millions. ALL of the Bible Students were included in the 144,000 going to heaven, but in those days the persons we now identify as "the great crowd of other sheep" were also anointed and going to heaven. In fact, all Christians were going to heaven according Bible Student teaching of that time. This meant all Christians who were not Bible Students were anointed and also going to heaven.
But the scriptures taught that all who go to heaven must die first:
(1 Corinthians 15:35-37) . . .Nevertheless, someone will say: “How are the dead to be raised up? Yes, with what sort of body are they coming?” 36 You unreasonable person! What you sow is not made alive unless first it dies. 37 And as for what you sow, you sow, not the body that will develop, but just a bare grain, whether of wheat or of some other kind of seed;
That verse would have especially applied to the "seed," the 144,000, and to repeat, ALL of the (few thousand) Bible Students in 1920 were considered to be a part of that 144,000. And Jesus along with the rest of 144,000 were "The Christ." Jesus was the head of the Christ, and the 144,000 were also "The Christ" (the rest of Christ's body).  
The Christ consists of Jesus glorified, the head, and the members of his body, which constitutes the church.   -- "Millions Now  Living Will Never Die, p.76

Since the Bible Students were in the 144,000 and considered to be "The Christ," they were also part of the propitiatory sacrifice, and would have especially fulfilled the verse about how it is reserved for men to die once for all time.
(Hebrews 9:26-28) . . .Otherwise, he would have to suffer often from the founding of the world. But now he has manifested himself once for all time at the conclusion of the systems of things to do away with sin through the sacrifice of himself. 27 And just as it is reserved for men to die once for all time, but after this to receive a judgment, 28 so also the Christ was offered once for all time to bear the sins of many; and the second time that he appears it will be apart from sin, and he will be seen by those earnestly looking for him for their salvation.
But at that time it was believed that the great crowd would also die at Armageddon which can still be found on jw.org:
*** w66 2/15 p. 118 par. 13 Identifying the Present-Day Beneficiaries ***
In 1930, the book Light, in two volumes, gave a verse-for-verse commentary on the book of Revelation, but it still applied the “great multitude” of Revelation 7:9-17 (AV) to a spirit-begotten class of professed Christians who, after a martyr’s death at Armageddon, would each “get life as a spirit creature,” but secondary to the Bride of Christ. -- https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1966124?q="a+martyr's+death+at+Armageddon"&p=doc
The issues that come into play are about how many non-Christians were expected to be saved through Armageddon. Russell had given his opinion that only a very few would be "slaughtered" and that the vast majority of mankind living would accept the government that came to the fore after Armageddon (and Rutherford had not yet adjusted this view). In fact, as late as 1928, Rutherford could claim that he had not changed "a jot or tittle" from Russell's "Studies in the Scriptures."
But I think he was already hedging his bet on the number who would be saved through Armageddon. He said that "hundreds of thousands" of those alive in NYC in 1920 would never die. Look closely at the wording of the 1920 advertisement in the New York World newspaper below, and here on jw.org: https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-october-2020/1920-One-Hundred-Years-Ago/

NYC had a population of 5.6 million at the time. But smaller cities, a tenth as large, like Pittsburgh (pop 588,000) could only be conclusively proven to see "tens of thousands" never die.

Under Knorr/Franz, the expectation changed from what appears to be at least 5% to 10% surviving, down to about 0.1% surviving. (99.9% of the world population to be slaughtered, as FWF put it.)
*** w55 11/1 p. 648 Using Wisely the Reduced Time Left ***
or in trying to perpetuate this old system of things is wasted, and that is what more than 99.9 per cent of this earth’s population are doing.
*** w58 10/15 pp. 614-615 What Will Armageddon Mean for You? ***
THE ARMAGEDDON FORCES . . . On Satan’s side will be all the rest of mankind, more than 99.9 percent, even as we read: “The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.” That includes all the governments of the world together with their supporters, the commercial, religious and social institutions. Even the professedly Christian organizations? Yes, because all such that are friends of the world are making themselves enemies of God.—1 John 5:19; Jas. 4:4.
That number apparently came from the fact that the number of Witnesses compared to the rest of the population was also about 0.1% therefore 99.9% non-Witnesses. Today, if you include all Memorial attendees, the number begins to approach 0.3%. So maybe only 99.7%?

what 'Truth' is that then ?  You cannot mean the JW Org.   
I was just thinking that most of the aggression on this forum seems to come  from those people who say they are JWs. 
As for puppies, they consume meat, they poop everywhere and they need constant care. 
When I go walking I wear these large 'cans' (blue headphones) attached to an MP3, and I listen to music. People look at me and laugh. An old man wearing 'cans'.  Then I look at all the people carrying little red bags. Bags of poo which they have to clean up when their little doggy has pood in a public place.  My 'cans' provide pleasure and need no attention. I laugh at all these people trying to pick up all the poo. 
And this is because it's big business. People here in England sell puppies for hundreds of pounds. 

Patiently is confused about Rando (who is not NoisySrecko/BillyTheKid) . . .
And BroRando is confused about Patiently who is not "Witness" or "Pearl."

Because the supply chains are interrupted, and the prediction is that there will be a shortage of pumpkins, and many Northern "Blue "States have classified pumpkins not as a food, but as a decoration, and thereby subject to increased taxes.

I don't doubt your knowledge of history.
Hmmm, sounds very familiar. 
   Rev 17 and 18, concerns God's anointed over the last 150 years, and down to today.

Probably the most beautiful religious song ever composed was not written by someone on the WTB&TS staff .... it was written by a Captain of a slaver ship hauling slaves from Africa to the United States, and after many extremely profitable trips what he saw finally got to him, and he repented, and took the slaves in the hold of his ship and returned them to Africa ( where they were for the most part re-captured and made slaves once again by the black indigenous slavers who originally captured them and brought them to the coast to be sold, or were caught up in the many tribal civil wars of the days ....).
He then went to England and became an Anglican  minister and composed "Amazing Grace", regretting the many atrocities he had caused, and the lives he had destroyed, the entire rest of his life ..... attributing the forgiveness of God to the value of Christ's sacrifice.
Although he did not understand enough to realize who Jehovah and Christ Jesus really were, he came to understand the principles they stood for, but the previous collateral damage was immense and horrendous.
I cannot believe that Jehovah God, and his Christ will not give him full credit, or if not full credit, at lease "a passing grade" when his life is examined.
Just like at the Division of Motor Vehicles, when you get tested for a Driver's License, you do not have to make 100% on the test.
Just one point above failing the test, and you still get a drivers license.