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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Jehovah's Witnesses 'failed to act' over sex abuse claims   
    You do love to aim it at the UK, But I do wonder if some places like India, Pakistan and surrounding areas, and Africa, have a much deeper problem with CSA that is not known about worldwide. 
    Statistics can only show what is already known. There must be far more going on that is not known. 
    We have some idea how women are treated in some of those countries, so why would they be nicer to children ? 
    I don't know what this is supposed to mean as some Elders were allowed to continue for years in their position even though it was known that they were pedophiles. And some that were d/fed were then allowed back into the congregations. And how many more are still hiding in the JW org. 
    What has happened to that massive 25 + years American Pedophile Database that the GB keep hidden and will not hand over to authorities ? The Australian records went back for 50 years. That was made clear at the ARC. BUT the GB say they only have 25 years of records. Why ? As the W/t / JW Org started in America they should have records of over 50 years. So what are the GB hiding ? And why would you be on their side ? 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in The 144k and the GB...gnostics?   
    Ha Ha   You got the first bit right for sure. BUT neither God/Christ nor the Bible 'speaks' to the GB in a special way.
    They have proven that by their many 'mistakes' and false promises. Come on Tom admit it. The GB have nothing except a lot of puffed up pride and self serving bragging. They even stand on top of the Anointed ones and tell those Anointed ones not to meet together. 
    Does the Bible tell your GB to order the Body of Christ not to be as one ? Hypocrisy  
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to ApostaBabe Linda James in Jehovah's Witnesses 'failed to act' over sex abuse claims   
    When you say, "none of them went back to their churches," are you speaking of the alleged perpetrators or the alleged victims as being the
    ➡ "none of them [that] went back to their churches?"
    So the churches you are referring to would be the Kingdom Hall's, correct?
     
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in The 144k and the GB...gnostics?   
    Ha Ha   You got the first bit right for sure. BUT neither God/Christ nor the Bible 'speaks' to the GB in a special way.
    They have proven that by their many 'mistakes' and false promises. Come on Tom admit it. The GB have nothing except a lot of puffed up pride and self serving bragging. They even stand on top of the Anointed ones and tell those Anointed ones not to meet together. 
    Does the Bible tell your GB to order the Body of Christ not to be as one ? Hypocrisy  
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Jehovah's Witnesses 'failed to act' over sex abuse claims   
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Jehovah's Witnesses 'failed to act' over sex abuse claims   
    You do love to aim it at the UK, But I do wonder if some places like India, Pakistan and surrounding areas, and Africa, have a much deeper problem with CSA that is not known about worldwide. 
    Statistics can only show what is already known. There must be far more going on that is not known. 
    We have some idea how women are treated in some of those countries, so why would they be nicer to children ? 
    I don't know what this is supposed to mean as some Elders were allowed to continue for years in their position even though it was known that they were pedophiles. And some that were d/fed were then allowed back into the congregations. And how many more are still hiding in the JW org. 
    What has happened to that massive 25 + years American Pedophile Database that the GB keep hidden and will not hand over to authorities ? The Australian records went back for 50 years. That was made clear at the ARC. BUT the GB say they only have 25 years of records. Why ? As the W/t / JW Org started in America they should have records of over 50 years. So what are the GB hiding ? And why would you be on their side ? 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE TIMELINE   
    At least, as you can plainly see, as almost all dogs are, I am VERY cute!
    .... and VERY "low maintenance".
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE TIMELINE   
    ...sez the faceless Pwft, who seems to disparage the possibility in others, whoever they might be,  the fact that he himself is hiding behind an alias .... without a face.
    When you can be irritated by a cartoon dog, because he does not discuss "spiritual matters" in a manner to your liking ... who is it that really needs a shrink?
    Lighten up .... you will live longer, and be a LOT happier.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE TIMELINE   
    No, you're hiding behind the stupid dog thing with the intention of diverting serious conversation away from spiritual matters. How much are the GB paying you ? 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE TIMELINE   
    Pudgy, what are you hiding ?  You hide behind all this rubbish you write and it seems you are afraid to actually be human. 
    So, are you JTR Jnr, or are you just another of Tom's silly games ??? 
    Either way you act very immature and make pointless comments. But no wait, of course they are not pointless. They have a purpose. Their purpose is in line with the GB's purpose. That is, to take people away from TRUTH. You try to sidetrack just as the GB does. You pretend to be a dog, whilst the GB pretend to be the F&DS. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE TIMELINE   
    Sorry but i think it's so funny how the Watchtower / GB / helpers et al, make themselves so obviously hypocritical and deliberately liars.  I don't actually believe there is a 'Faithful and Discreet slave' as yet. Jesus will decide when He comes to judge us all. But, oh dear, how those GB and their helpers will themselves need help when Jesus arrives. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from ApostaBabe Linda James in Jehovah's Witnesses 'failed to act' over sex abuse claims   
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Jehovah's Witnesses 'failed to act' over sex abuse claims   
    A more simple answer is, that when i click on news articles it has a message on the screen saying this article is not permitted in Europe for legal reasons. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Dmitar in Jehovah's Witnesses 'failed to act' over sex abuse claims   
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to ApostaBabe Linda James in Jehovah's Witnesses 'failed to act' over sex abuse claims   
    Now that you mention it, Uncle Donald sitting with his nephews would be wise to have this conversation being that on this occasion of once yearly, these bird's are in fact eating other bird's in the traditional manner of Thanksgiving dinners here in the U.S., otherwise the cognitive dissonance his three nephews Hewey, Dewey and Lewey would most likely be having to deal with would obviously be a fowl experience for them.
    This too makes sense. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Pudgy in FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE TIMELINE   
    Pudgy, what are you hiding ?  You hide behind all this rubbish you write and it seems you are afraid to actually be human. 
    So, are you JTR Jnr, or are you just another of Tom's silly games ??? 
    Either way you act very immature and make pointless comments. But no wait, of course they are not pointless. They have a purpose. Their purpose is in line with the GB's purpose. That is, to take people away from TRUTH. You try to sidetrack just as the GB does. You pretend to be a dog, whilst the GB pretend to be the F&DS. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from ApostaBabe Linda James in Jehovah's Witnesses 'failed to act' over sex abuse claims   
    A more simple answer is, that when i click on news articles it has a message on the screen saying this article is not permitted in Europe for legal reasons. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to ApostaBabe Linda James in Jehovah's Witnesses 'failed to act' over sex abuse claims   
    Thank you for letting me kow this. I had no idea that this was happening.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to ApostaBabe Linda James in Jehovah's Witnesses 'failed to act' over sex abuse claims   
    Wow! Okay........
    That's interesting..
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE TIMELINE   
    To any anointed ones here from the organization:   After reading this list, and as teachers of the Word, the law of God, (Mal 2:7; Isa 43:10,12;44:8; 1 Pet 2:5,9,10; Heb 13:15)…
    ..can you honestly say that you have worked in unison with the following words of the apostle Paul ? (1 Thess 2)
    “For you yourselves know, brethren, that our coming to you was not in vain. 2 But even after we had suffered before and were spitefully treated at Philippi, as you know, we were bold in our God to speak to you the gospel of God in much conflict. 3 For our exhortation did not come from error or uncleanness, nor was it in deceit.

    4 But as we have been approved by God to be entrusted with the gospel, even so we speak, not as pleasing men, but God who tests our hearts.” 

    For the following scriptures, consider your leaders, the GB:

    "For neither at any time did we use flattering words, as you know, nor a cloak for covetousness (pretext for greed)—God is witness. 6 Nor did we seek glory from men, either from you or from others, when we might have made demands as apostles of Christ.
    For you remember, brethren, our labor and toil; for laboring night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you, we preached to you the gospel of God."

    Have demands been put upon you, by those who call themselves, the (present and only) “faithful and discreet slave” of an earthly organization?  What are your obligations to this organization?    Obviously, by Paul's words, our only obligation is to the Father and the Son in Truth.  Why would this change today?

    "For this reason we also thank God without ceasing, because when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you welcomed it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which also effectively works in you who believe.”

    To all JWs, which “word” have you received from the “faithful and discreet slave”?  The word of God, or the word of men outlined above?  Which word have you welcomed and that “works in you”?  Truth, or the shifting sands of doctrine that cannot stand the test of time?  
    "Your prophets had nothing to tell you but lies; Their preaching deceived you by never exposing your sin. They made you think you did not need to repent."  Lam 2:14
     

     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE TIMELINE   
    I believe it was Linus, of the comic strip "Peanuts", running for Class President, who in his school auditorium got up on the stage, and behind the podium yelled out how if he was elected President by the student body, he would "... tear down their altars and the false idols from the high places!", to which Charlie Brown commented that the school Principal 's face had just turned white.
    Of course Linus was in expectation of the Great Pumpkin, who would rise from the pumpkin patch, and bring toys to all the good little boys and girls.
    You know .... it it's not one thing ..... it's another.
    ...it's always somethin'.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE TIMELINE   
    Sorry but i think it's so funny how the Watchtower / GB / helpers et al, make themselves so obviously hypocritical and deliberately liars.  I don't actually believe there is a 'Faithful and Discreet slave' as yet. Jesus will decide when He comes to judge us all. But, oh dear, how those GB and their helpers will themselves need help when Jesus arrives. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Witness in FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE TIMELINE   
    Sorry but i think it's so funny how the Watchtower / GB / helpers et al, make themselves so obviously hypocritical and deliberately liars.  I don't actually believe there is a 'Faithful and Discreet slave' as yet. Jesus will decide when He comes to judge us all. But, oh dear, how those GB and their helpers will themselves need help when Jesus arrives. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Srecko Sostar in Jehovah's Witnesses 'failed to act' over sex abuse claims   
    That happened to me few times too.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Witness in FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE TIMELINE   
    Contributed by a poster on reddit:
    "Who really is the Faithful and Discrete Slave? (Surely he himself must know)"
     
    Let's find out... (Specific Watchtower publication references available on request)
    These are all directly from WT articles over the decades. Date is year published.
    1881 Russell states the Faithful slave is a collective servant made up of the anointed
    1917 Former associate Mr Barbour of Rochester became the Evil Slave. The Evil slave is not a class but a single person, Mr Barbour
    1917 Charles Taze Russell took the place of Mr Barbour fulfilling prophecy and became the Faithful slave
    1917 Russell claims he is a prophet faithfully sounding forth a trumpet message
    (from this point forward, the slave has been appointed so must know him/themselves who they are, when they were appointed and what they should be doing)
    1922 Russell has fulfilled by prophecy by physical facts
    1925 Russell is doing the Lord's work
    1925 Russell is the individual Laodicean messenger
    1925 Russell is the man clothed in linen in Ezekiel
    1927 Faithful slave is not an individual and never was but Jesus is the head of the slave
    1927 Flipflop - We reaffirm Russells 1881 proclamation, he is the Faithful slave
    1928 Russell is not the individual Laodicean messenger as this messenger is not an individual. Sorry about that
    1930 Jesus judged in 1918 and found the Evil slave even though The Watchtower found him in 1917.
    1931 The man clothed in linen in Ezekiel was not Russell. Sorry about that.
    1946 The Watchtower Society (the agency) used by Jesus is the Faithful slave
    1951 The society of anointed remnant and the restored theocratic organisation is the Faithful slave
    1953 The Faithful slave is a class of "interests and assets" but not The Watchtower Society, which is incorporated by a worldly political state.
    1958 The united body of the regathered last ones of God's spiritual nation are the Faithful slave
    1966 The slave was proven faithful and discrete at Christs return and appointed over all his belongings
    1969 Some people were disfellowshipped earlier on and joined the Evil slave
    1995 All anointed Christians are the Faithful slave
    1995 Charles Taze Russell and his associates were the Faithful slave - there is no doubt based on the results of the time
    2000 The Faithful Slave is the anointed
    2001 Faithful slave has already been appointed over Jesus' belongings including New York headquarters
    2004 Faithful slave was appointed over Christs belongings in 1919
    2006 Apostles such as Peter, John and Paul were all members of the Faithful slave
    2007 All anointed Christians
    2009 Faithful slave has been appointed over all Christs belongings including all property and the domestics who are the individual members of the slave class
    2013 Not all anointed make up the Faithful slave
    2013 Faithful slave was appointed in the last days
    2013 We admit we used to say the slave was appointed in 33ce and was of the anointed
    2013 The Messianic Kingdom became Jesus property in 1914 which he will share with the anointed.
    2013 Faithful slave was appointed in 1919
    2013 Faithful slave has not yet been appointed over all Christs belongings
    2013 Faithful slave will be appointed over all Christs belongings at The Great Tribulation (because of course it will be found to have been faithful and discrete)
    2013 The domestics are the other sheep and the slave together, not just the individual members of the slave class as previously taught.
    2014 The governing body alone is the Faithful slave
    Now that's crystal clear, you may get baptised.
     
    One of the latest rumors, is that the only "faithful slave" (Matt 24:45) is the "governing body" of today. It is asserted that there were NO "faithful slaves" previous to the men which now rule over the international organization who call themselves "Jehovah's Witnesses".
    We know that when a house is built on sand, it shifts and cracks. It must continually be repaired and patched up to "whitewash" it's intrinsic growing imperfections (Ezek 13:12,11,13; Acts 23:3; Matt 23:27). For those who make a home from such walls, that "house" of doctrines will come to ruin (Matt 7:27; Prov 19:5,9). Such is the case with man-made doctrines of error (Matt 7:26). For those who take shelter in and send forth such lies, the scriptures at Isa 28:11,14,15,17-22,29 find their home. (Dan 5:25-27,30; Luke 12:20)

    Why did Jesus put the identity of the faithful slave in question form? (Matt 24:45)?
    Because he listed two distinct options before his slaves (Matt 24:46,48-51).
    It must be noted, that if the governing body is the only slave, it is also the only identity that can fulfill the wicked steward....not the so-called "apostates" which they "beat". (Isa 667:5; John 16:1,2; Rev 11:7; 13:15; 6:9; 20:4; 17:6)
    From - Who is the "Faithful Slave"?
     
     
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