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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Unfortunately this comment of Mr Harley's shows that he has a serious problem in his life, and that problem is not me.
    Here is what i said. Plain for everyone to see. All that Tom mentions is the world Leaders, not the ordinary people living their daily lives.  And i never even mentioned trying to 'patch up the world' as Tom suggests.
    As for the Doomsday clock, it belongs to Men, not GOD. Only GOD knows the day and the hour, but Men still pretend to know. 
     
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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    It's 11 am here in England. The sun is shining and i have just returned from a two hour walk.  I needed to sit and rest for a while, that's why I'm on here. So what do we find then. Wel it seems as if tom now wants to serve the Devil, and CC. is ranting and raving because he is so jealous that the scriptures are written for the True Anointed. 
    CC is trying all ways to decieve others about God's written word. But the truth is that God's written word is for the True Anointed to understand properly with the guidance of God's Holy spirt, through Jesus Christ.  I could, once again, show many scriptures to prove my point, but it is pointless and wrong to 'cast pearls before swine'. 
    CC's other pointless point about the Elders, well it's very sad. CC thinks the Elders are princes and CC believes the Elders are guided by God's Holy Spirit. CC burbles on about evidence for CSA but we all know that it has been proven that the Edlers were told to destoy evidence., and the congregations were told to keep everything 'in house'. CC really believes that the Elders are princes so lets have a scripture 
    Psalm 146 : 3 
     Do not put your trust in princes Nor in a son of man, who cannot bring salvation.
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    César Chávez reacted to Srecko Sostar in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Try with ... to excommunicate them (dfd them) :)).
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    César Chávez reacted to Srecko Sostar in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    When Bible said how "whole world is under the power of devil", that is not proof how whole world is automatically evil, but only that ruler of this World is devil. But because JW beliefs how Jesus is King from 1914, that would mean how Jesus is Ruler and how this World is under power of Jesus, too. Or not? That is question for WTJWorg Bible Scholars.
    But back to first issue. Humanity is not more or less evil because of JW interpretations. Would we say how Eve and Adam became evil because of devil question about fruit? Did the evil influence of the devil come through the question? Or through some bad mental energy? Or by spoken words? Or by visualization  with snake? 
    People are in capacity to doing bad things, but people are ready to help too. Also today, centuries after Adam and Eve perfection. So, whole world is mixed with good and evil things no matter of devil. Even in JW Spiritual Paradise we  see good and evil "fruits".
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    César Chávez reacted to ETERNALBLACKPROJECT in The Generation of 1914 truly doesn't pass away until 2034.   
    I am just on a mission to speak eternal truths to power and expose the hidden forces that control this Earth while promoting truths and Jehovah whenever the opportunity arises. 
    And I have bigger and better things to do than to listen and respond to liberated Eve-ites from this counterfeit new world order of modern enlightened daughters of Eve whom hath been given the last minute rights to steer this sinking global ship, so let them steer the sinking ship and reap the credit for the crash. Foolish daughters of Eve.
    Comedy Club Saint Santa Anna, have you outgrown and  risen above your curse of blood and now speak uncovered and clean like an enlightened spend spawn? This site has New World Cesar's,  who's forefathers  likely condemned innocence in Rome.for Mock me, but  mock yourselves lastly.. T
    And you moderators can delete me from your website or society because of your cancel culture agenda , Only Jehovah truly understands and knows me. I don't need  friends here amongst you who are  liberated seekers of points and e-symbols on this site.
    In the end let Jehovah judge me and if me being destroyed is gonna make Jehovah's new order a better place, then I'm glad to be destroyed for the betterment of his agenda of a lasting peace under his new system. T
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    César Chávez reacted to Anna in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    I already put it in context: As long as this “channel” is in line with Bible principles, then Christians can have confidence in it can’t they?  Your context is erroneous, because it is up to us to make sure that they are in line with Bible principles (make sure of all things) If we did not make sure, then we would just be like any other people who have confidence in anyone who claims to be a prophet or “channel” from God. Why not have confidence in Charles Manson, Jim Jones or David Koresh? Many people did.
    I have for a while seen a pattern emerge with ex-Witnesses. It always seems to be those who have not done their research, who have not made sure of all things, who have not “made the truth their own". They had put all their confidence not in the Bible, but in imperfect men, who are fallible and make mistakes. Then when the mistakes of these men disappoint them, then they lose their confidence in them, (which is not surprising of course) and leave. But had they (the ex-JWs) been reasonable, and remembered that “all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23) they may have been able to figure things out, work things trough, like the rest of us have. It doesn’t matter if they are anointed and so full of holy spirit till it pours out of their ears. They are still imperfect and make mistakes. Just like ALL the faithful men and women in Bible times. The only one who could claim perfection was Jesus. And yet Jesus dealt with all these imperfect people. Why? Because they wanted to follow him. They wanted to be his disciples and let Jesus teach and guide them. So, when the GB want to follow Jesus, and want to be his disciples, and want to encourage others to be his disciples, they will allow Jesus to teach them and guide them. This is why they will want to base everything on the Scriptures, because this is where the teachings and guidance from Jesus is found. In the ARC hearing, one of the councilors was puzzled, and even a bit upset that the JWs want to follow ancient guidelines from 2000 years ago. I rest my case.
     
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    César Chávez reacted to TrueTomHarley in Edinburgh Residents targeted with handwritten letters from child members of Jehovah's Witnesses brand the move 'sick   
    If he would be equally outraged at a child expressing support for his school, love for his country, support for some local cause, rallying for some local politician, selling Scout cookies, knocking on his door offering to shovel snow, & such things, then he would be consistent. However, I think most other people would tell him to get a life.
    Come come, 4Jah, you still claim to be Christian. Srecko may think evangelizing is child abuse, but you should not. What if he made no mention of jw.org, but just encouraged Bible reading, or just spoke of God and Jesus? Would you be as upset then? You’re just snarling every time you see JW.
     
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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Edinburgh Residents targeted with handwritten letters from child members of Jehovah's Witnesses brand the move 'sick   
    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/edinburgh-residents-targeted-with-handwritten-letters-from-child-members-of-jehovahs-witnesses-brand-the-move-sick-3153697
    Residents in Leith who received handwritten letters through their door from Jehovah’s Witnesses members as young as ten-years-old have branded the move ‘sick’.
    It has emerged that residents in Leith and other areas of the city have been targeted by the group – notorious for door-stepping – by letters written in multiple languages.
    The man, who had also received a leaflet from the group, who claim to be the ‘one true faith’, said in his comments the move was “sick”. He added: “This is indoctrination of a 10-year-old child. The Jehovah’s Witnesses are a dangerous cult.”
    full article available on link above. 
    Well I suppose the children have to get their hours in or they will counted as 'inactive' publishers. The Org needs to keep it's number up somehow. 
     

    BUT if the letters are hand written and then put through doors, they could pass on the Virus, so this might be illegal,  
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    César Chávez reacted to lentaylor71 in The Generation of 1914 truly doesn't pass away until 2034.   
    I don't believe Jesus was referring to 2034 when he said this generation.
    The goalposts have moved many times on this subject and the GB have not been infused by the Holy Spirit regarding the 1914 and has become a problematic .
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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    This is where a True Anointed in needed. Because your GB have placed themselves above all others by stating that Only They are the F&DS. Therefore the GB will say everyone else is wrong in their interpretation of God's word. 
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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    This is so funny............. The GB have demoted the Anointed ones. The GB have said ONLY THEY are the Faithful and Discreet Slave. The GB have placed themselves above all other people on this Earth by saying only they are God's mouthpiece. 
    And then Anna says "If an individual feels that he is inferior spiritually to someone else"
    The GB have made everyone spiritually inferior. THE GB expects all JWs to obey them. 
     
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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    And you know all the truthful details ???? So tell me why Australia had over 50 years records of Child Sexual Abuse and America GB Lawyers are saying they have 25 years Database. Whereas the Org / Watchtower started in America so should easily have more on record that Australia. Unless the GB are saying that Australia is more perverted than America.  
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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    It is not a grey area at all. The ministry is part of the JW 'church activity'. This is easily proven by what is happening right now. Letter writing instead of door to door work. This is instruction by your Leaders as is all ministry. NO grey area at all.
    Now, what you say about children being the responsibility of the parents. This is where I say that ALL Pedophiles in ALL congregations should be made known to Everyone in the Congregation,(and outside really). Any proven act of abuse reported to Elders should be made known, naming the abuser but not naming the child. But it has been proven that Pedophiles have been hidden in congregations Earthwide, especially Elder pedophiles. So the congregation parents are not to blame for that. Remember that the KH is 'advertised' / spoken of, as being a safe place for families. JWs constantly invite 'new studies' to the KH, telling them what a wonderful and friendly place the KH is. From there JWs invite people into their own homes and on to ministry. It's a 'snowball' effect. More activities, more mixing with others. Therefore everyone should have ALL needed information about dangerous congregants including Elders.
    Anna, just turn off the JW think for one moment, and look for truth about it all. Look into your heart not into the GB eyes. You know what has gone on in the JW Org. And there is no proof that it has stopped. Why ? Because the Elders still have control over the congregations. and we know what happens if people question the Elders, or if a person complains about being mistreated.  D/fed for causing a division in the congregation. Loss of all contact with everyone in the Org. 
     
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    César Chávez reacted to Srecko Sostar in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Showing sexuality is a private matter between husband and wife, right? Then why are there GB regulations about it?
    Things are not quite as they seem at first glance. WTJWorg has a great influence in family and private matters. And it does so as a Company, Organization, Institution.
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    César Chávez reacted to Pudgy in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    ... apparently not, as it IS up to God ...
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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Well no truth comes from your words, that's for sure. Just as no truth comes from the GB or the Watchtower. 
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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    This is so hypocritical. It would be funny BUT it is very serious.
    BUT the GB and their Lawyers still refuse to hand over the Pedophile Database in America. 
    And here in UK the Bethel did not want to hand over information, but were taken to court and had to hand it over. 
    And the GB Lawyers have been seen on video whilst in court, Telling Lies. 
    And Elders claim Clergy Penitent Privilege so as not to give evidence against other Elders in court, but then the Org pretends that Elders are not Clergy.  So how can Elders claim that privilege if they are not clergy ? Hypocrites. 
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    César Chávez reacted to TrueTomHarley in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    What a strange alliance has taken place, for 4Jah frequently makes this point as well.
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    César Chávez reacted to TrueTomHarley in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Are you kidding me? She is the patient who begged the most.
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    César Chávez reacted to Anna in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    The problem is you know just enough to get confused. You do not have all the facts nor knowledge, just bits and pieces from various sources. Not only that, but also twisted information. It's like when opposers say Br. Lett said that child sexual abuse in the congregation are all apostate lies. When in fact he said that the JWs supposedly not caring about child sexual abuse are apostate lies.  One says that we deny there is child sexual abuse, and the other says there is sexual abuse and we do care about it. Big difference.
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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    My point is that you pretend to be a JW, BUT the NWT does not include that scripture and you as a JW should know that.
    So, who do you believe, your GB's Bible or some other Bible ? 
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    César Chávez reacted to Anna in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    No, you love this, that's why you're always trolling on here 
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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Excuses excuses. Congregants would be d/fed for a hundred different reasons, BUT Elders and others were not d/fed for CSA. They were kept hidden in the congregations. 
    BUT I've still not had any true answers as to how Australia had more that 50 years worth of Pedophilia records, which it seems they handed over. 
    And America, where the Org began, pretends to only have 25 years of Pedophilia records on data base. AND I still haven't heard that your GB has handed all that data base over to the Superior Authorities.
    Add to this, that up until February last year (Pre-Covid virus) the GB were going to be arrested in connection with CSA. But it's all gone quiet now. i wonder why ? A very big back hander payout maybe ????? 
    Is the new American president going to legalize Child sex ?  I would not be at all surprised. 
     
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    César Chávez reacted to xero in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Archer's analytical method is the preferred method, one w/which the org has attempted to follow. One can argue how well these have done, but this discussion shows the methods one ought use if one actually cares about what the truth is on any given matter.
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