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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    The words of JESUS recorded at Matthew 5:48, and Jesus did his Father's will, so this is God's instruction. 
    New Living Translation
    But you are to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect.

    English Standard Version
    You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

    Berean Study Bible
    Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

    Berean Literal Bible
    You shall be perfect, therefore, as your Heavenly Father is perfect.

    King James Bible
    Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

    New King James Version
    Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

    New American Standard Bible
    Therefore you shall be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
     
    OK, can you read that ok ?  It is scripture you know. Do you understand scripture ? 
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    César Chávez reacted to Pudgy in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    Why?
    They know where the bodies are buried?
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    César Chávez reacted to JW Insider in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    I think the list of questions you are thinking of are in the JW Only "club." You can always copy them here, of course.
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    César Chávez reacted to TrueTomHarley in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    Preparing to conduct a Bible study later. So much is packed into these videos to show death is not a launching pad into heaven or hell. I like this one about Lazarus raised after 4 days. Wouldn’t he have been annoyed to be hauled out of heaven? (or cool his tush in a bucket of water had he gone to the other place.)
    https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=E&lank=docid-502017858_1_VIDEO
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    César Chávez reacted to Witness in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    Dear Arauna,
    Just think about this; would comparing the religion of JWs to other religions, give justification for the organization set itself above other religions? How so?   Shouldn’t the comparison be made instead, with the teachings of Jesus Christ and the apostles – the foundation of Truth?  (Eph 2:20-22)  A person doesn't need to be an expert in the beliefs of other religions, they need to understand God's Word.  
    Through examination of beliefs, if your religion falls short of that foundation, then your religion and yours only, needs to be scrutinized. (Matt 7:15-29)  Gleaning the best from a pool of religions according to opinion and not according to scriptural fact, is not how we find eternal life. (John 11:25,26; John 17:1-3)
    To whom do we go to for eternal life? John 6:68  Not to an organization, that has so boldly twisted this scripture by removing the name of Jesus Christ in their literature concerning it, and inserting the words, “Jehovah’s organization”.  (John 14:6; Acts 4:12)   There is only one narrow straight path, clear of all forks in the road that temporarily appeared to be the way of truth…or as it is known, doctrine of “new light” presented by ministers of the angel of light.   (2 Cor 11:13-15)  
    God is not seeking people to enter into an organization that has snuffed out any truth to be found in the hearts of His anointed priesthood – the Body of Jesus Christ. (Matt 24:15,16; Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:1-4; Rev 11:1-3; Rev 13:5-9; Rev 20:7-10; 12:15; Luke 17:20-30) (Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9; Eph 4:1-16; 2:20-22; 1 Cor 3:16,17)
     
     
     
     
     
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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    Why would i study anti-Christian religions ? And I haven't seen the questions as yet. 
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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    Yes the GB do keep spouting that God and Christ trust them and the GB et al do keep spouting that JWs have the only true religion 
    But neither of their spoutings are true, and the CSA in those orgs is part of the proof of it. So why should I pretend otherwise ? 
    It seems as if @xero has found proof that even the name used for the Org isn't true either. 
    You are so wrong about me Tom. In truth what i want is the complete destruction of ALL false Religions. I want all the lies about Almighty God and Jesus Christ to stop. I want all the guesswork about 'the time of the end' to stop too. I want men to stop pretending that they know truth, when in fact they don't. 
    I want an Earthwide group of honest people serving God through Christ, led by the True Anointed ones that are prophesied about in God's word (the JEW),  that will admit when they do not have all the answers, and will wait on God through Christ for Holy Spirit to direct them. 
    So, explain to me your meaning of this word obtuse. Yes of course I know what it really means, (from the Latin word obtusus )  but I want to know what YOU mean by it ??? It's like I've said before Americans have a weird way with words and thinking. It just brings us back to 'The Emperor's New Clothes', people not believing your every word Tom. 
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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    It was posted just as 'something different'. It gets boring reading people arguing over dates and insulting each other, and when a person acts like a dog well ................ So it was just something a bit different. 
    And as for "
    Coroner
    A coroner is a government or judicial official who is empowered to conduct or order an inquest into the manner or cause of death, and to investigate or confirm the identity of an unknown person who has been found dead within the coroner's jurisdiction.   Is it the Coroner's job to state if  opportunities existed and/or were missed ? I wouldn't think so.   How can a person examining a dead body, know if opportunities existed to prevent the murder ? But you need to pick up on it Tom, as you need every straw to grasp don't you ?        
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    César Chávez reacted to TrueTomHarley in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    @Anna@ThinkingThere is an update on this. Turns out there was no censure at all, and it took the coroner himself to set the record straight. 
    ”We would like to state that at no time did the Coroner find that opportunities existed and/or were missed by any individual or group to prevent the murder.”
    https://redditchstandard.co.uk/news/clarification-of-coroners-findings/?fbclid=IwAR1YUsWpy38RFhiS4mBvYA8f_oHJ-z95XSLSMHMXv2YFunyMEKwS5ipX2yM
    Once again, the story was posted here by a dodo who presents his wishful thinking as though it was fact.
     
     
     
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    César Chávez reacted to Pudgy in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    You know, that MIGHT work!
    .... I mean, every bone I have tossed YOU, Cesar, you have grabbed and chewed on ad absurdum !
    .... sometimes I am embarrassed at how easy it is to rattle your chain with normal conversation, but then I realize .... you are doing it to yourself !
    ..... it's like watching a train wreck ... I just can't not see it.
    Essentially ... Free Entertainment !
     
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    César Chávez reacted to Pudgy in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    I do understand the word MAY.
    It's not just the 5th month in the Calendar.
    Unless you are a vegetable or mineral, we are BOTH animals.
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    César Chávez reacted to Pudgy in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    I think you are just making that up.
    References?
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    César Chávez reacted to Pudgy in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    Linguistics is not my strong suite, as I can only speak one word.
    But being friendly and wagging my tail works wonders for me.
    ...you should try it!
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    César Chávez reacted to Pudgy in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    Since the entire conversation, including mine, (but not yours CC) is about pronunciation of generally arcane words, I wonder how a TREE would pronounce "bark"?
    ..... probably too occupied considering square roots.
     
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    César Chávez reacted to Pudgy in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    In the Canine Language, ╕°╗ö means "bark".
    ....it's spelled just like it sounds.
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    César Chávez reacted to Pudgy in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    I am confused.
    PWfT says:
    How will you know?
    Will they have an endorsement on their Driver's Licenses?
    Will they have a star on the end of a stick they can wave around, and with a "Bippity Bobbety Boo!" make some sort of magic happen?
    Will they be driven around in a limousine, with bodyguards in dark sunglasses?
    Try to visualize BEING a Thermos bottle, that can keep things hot .... or keep things cold.
    How do you know?
    PWfT .... for your convenience I have made a list of TEN things that will identify a TA.
    .... all you have to do is fill in the blanks.
    1.) ______________________________________________________________________________
    2.) ______________________________________________________________________________
    3.) ______________________________________________________________________________
    4.) ______________________________________________________________________________
    5.) ______________________________________________________________________________
    6.) ______________________________________________________________________________
    7.) ______________________________________________________________________________
    8.) ______________________________________________________________________________
    9.) ______________________________________________________________________________
    10.) _____________________________________________________________________________
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    César Chávez reacted to TrueTomHarley in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    Hopefully when the TA appears, he will say: “Sorry I took so long. Sorry about there being no guidance whatsoever for the sheep while I was waking up. Thanks for trying to keep certain yo-yos in check while I was delaying.
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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    Poor @TrueTomHarley. He has nothing intelligent to write but he feels left out if he doesn't write something. 
    You probably have ten accounts already Tom.  I may change my AKA but I only have one account. 
    As for the True Anointed, I hope you will be ready to submit to their direction, because their direction WILL be inspired by God's Holy Spirit, unlike your GB that are tossed about like the waves of the sea. I wonder if you will have too much pride to change direction when the time comes. 
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    César Chávez reacted to TrueTomHarley in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    For similar reasons, I swore off badminton 
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    César Chávez reacted to Pudgy in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED   
    As far as I am concerned, this covers it all.
    Doing just those two things is a 24/7/365 job.
    Everything else can be discarded.
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    César Chávez reacted to Srecko Sostar in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED   
    My comment have nothing with "enthusiasm" of any sort. I conveyed information regarding the creation and storage of documentation within an institution. And if that organization, like WTJWorg, is engaged in publishing, among other activities, then there are some technical and legal norms.
    Private congregation data? ....and clergy/laity privileged relationship, too ? What is your  definition of  "Private Congregational Data"?
    WTJWorg IS Private Company. Well, (does) that would mean how all documents inside WTJWorg organization are private?
    JW Congregations are "private companies" inside WTJWorg Private Company. Elders are "appointed" or installed by GB (top managers or ecclesiastic-hierarchical board of directors) to collect various information about members and their activity (rank and file primarily). Members agree, more or less, about that. Who can and would have interest to  see information/data about other members, about congregational activity, money, elder's decisions etc? Only few inside, i guess. Elders was instructed how to collect and how and when to destroy private and official notice, data, documents, memos and similar.
    Magazines and books are another part of same issue. You speaking about "redundancy, digitization, typing errors, and technical errors in understanding (wrong) interpretations". Poor explanations and excuses you offer with this.
     
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    César Chávez reacted to Witness in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED   
    Just a question for you, sir if you're still around.  You wouldn't be a legal monitor for the Wt, would you? 🤔
     
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    César Chávez reacted to Srecko Sostar in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED   
    Mr @Ray Devereaux  what, for God's sake, is problematic or scandalous or blasphemous, in this comment above, for you ??
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    César Chávez reacted to Witness in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED   
    Sorry I jumped ahead of @Patiently waiting for Truth.  I was just expressing what I thought was common knowledge.
    Nope.  Just the local apostate.  🙂
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    César Chávez reacted to Witness in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED   
    Oh the business aspect of religion.  It is so far from what Jesus Christ taught.  The evolution of this simple scripture is bringing it to extinction, in the world of religion...most importantly, in a religion that boasts it belongs to God.
    "Pure and undefiled religion before God the Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself unstained from the world."  James 1:27
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